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Film Discussion => News and Theory => Topic started by: Chest Rockwell on February 22, 2004, 06:58:22 AM

Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 22, 2004, 06:58:22 AM
The other day I just realized I'm starting to really like Spanish movies/directors. Just in the past two years I've been floored by movies like Y Tu Mama Tambien, Talk to Her, 21 Grams (American movie with Spanish writer and director), and City of God. Is this some new movement of the Spanish cinema? Most of these movies seem to really like exuding a gritty atmosphere that really gluts my goat, so to say. I think I'm going to explore more recent Spanish films, such as Amores Perros, which I have yet to see.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Pubrick on February 22, 2004, 08:07:54 AM
amores perros is the least recent of the ones u listed. and the most important.

viva la revolución.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: mogwai on February 22, 2004, 08:10:48 AM
a tv channel showed amores perros last night. i didn't see it because i'm sensitive towards dogs being hurt.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: MacGuffin on February 22, 2004, 12:19:48 PM
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Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: molly on February 22, 2004, 12:27:49 PM
i saw your film, Mac, it's great.
Might watch it again.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 22, 2004, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: Pamores perros is the least recent of the ones u listed. and the most important.

viva la revolución.

'More recent' as in 'more of the recent Spanish cinema'
not 'more recently made Spanish cinema'
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: molly on February 22, 2004, 12:57:33 PM
i thought it was mexican
i think it kind of drew the attention of the world to mexican cinema
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 22, 2004, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: mollyi thought it was mexican
i think it kind of drew the attention of the world to mexican cinema

I think they're all Latin American, but I was referring to the Spanish language moreso than Spain.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Kal on February 22, 2004, 02:16:11 PM
City of God - Brazil
Y Tu Mama tambien - Mexico
Like water for Chocolate - Spain
Amores Perros - Mexico (same Director as 21 Grams)
Nine Queens - Argentinean

There are many films from Latin countries and Spain that are great... and the production is getting better...
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: MacGuffin on February 22, 2004, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: andykLike water for Chocolate - Spain Mexico
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: RegularKarate on February 22, 2004, 02:53:56 PM
okay... wait... what are we talking about here?

Latin American cinema or spanish language cinema?

City of God is not in Spanish, but Brazil is in Latin America.  Spanish movies (as in "from Spain") are spanish-language, but not Latin-American films.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Sleuth on February 22, 2004, 02:56:47 PM
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Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 22, 2004, 02:56:52 PM
I changed the thread title for clarity.

I think we're just talking about Spanish language films and Latino films.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: modage on February 22, 2004, 03:10:32 PM
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Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: phil marlowe on February 22, 2004, 03:19:54 PM
haha latino ace ventura...even tougher on my head than jim carrey
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 22, 2004, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI changed the thread title for clarity.

I think we're just talking about Spanish language films and Latino films.
Good thinking.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Alexandro on February 28, 2004, 11:59:36 AM
just please, don't confuse spanish films with brazilian and mexican films...

I recommend:

SPAIN
Belle Epoque (Fernando Trueba)
Tesis (Alejandro Amenábar)
El Día de la Bestia - Day of the Beast (Alex de la Iglesia)
Los Amantes del Círculo Polar

ARGENTINA
Martín Hache (Adolfo Aristaraín)
El Hijo de la Novia - The Son of the Bride
Moebius

CHILE
Coronación

COLOMBIA
Edipo Alcalde - Mayor Oedipus
La Virgen de los Sicarios (Barbet Schroeder)

BRAZIL
Central Station (Walter Salles)
Seven Heads Bug

CUBA
Fresa y Chocolate (Strawberry and Chocolate)
Guantanamera

MEXICO
Cronos (Guillermo del Toro)
El Espinazo del Diablo - The Devil's Backbone (Guillermo del Toro)
El Lugar Sin Límites - Place Without Limits (Arturo Ripstein)
Principio y Fin - Beggining and End (Arturo Ripstein)
Profundo Carmesí - Deep Crimson (Arturo Ripstein)
Asi es la Vida (Arturo Ripstein)
Solo con tu Pareja (Alfonso Cuarón)
El Callejón de los Milagros - Midaq Alley (Jorge Fons) THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST
Rojo Amanecer (Jorge Fons)
Dos Crímenes - Two Crimes (Roberto Sneider)
Bajo California (Carlos Bolado)
El Crimen del Padre Amaro - Crime of Father Amaro (Carlos Carrera)
La Mujer de Benjamín - Benjamin's Woman (Carlos Carrera)
La Ley de Heródes (Herod's Law) (Luis Estrada)
El Jardín del Eden - Garden of Eden (María Novaro)
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Vile5 on March 04, 2004, 12:00:41 PM
First at all:
Spain is a country situated in a continent called Europe
Second:
Latin America is a group of countries which languages have a Latin root and they are situated in a continent called America

I don't wanna be unpleasant, but believe me, i'm tired to listening to people calling us Spanish people, or our movies and music, Spanish movies / Spanish music when that's not right, Spain and Latin America are similar in some ways but we are not the same....sorry

OK, so you're talking about Latin and Spanish cinema, well i think Argentina is making the best cinema in last years if we want to talk about Latin America, and then Mexico, oh! and Cuba is always interesting.
In Spain movies are in a different level, even so, i like (like many of you) Almodovar, and lately Fernando Leon de Aranoa (i'm just talking about current cinema of course)..ok my movies:

Martin Hache - Argentina/Spain (my favorite!)
Hable con Ella/Talk to Her - Spain
Profundo Carmesí/Deep Crimson - Mexico (excellent!)
Cenizas del Paraíso/Ashes of the Paradise - Argentina
Cidade de Dues/City of God - Brasil
Todo sobre mi Madre/ All about my Mother - Spain
Fresa y Chocolate - Cuba
Historias Mínimas/Minimal Stories - Argentina
El Hijo de la Novia/The Son of the Bride - Argentina
Guantanamera- Cuba
Estacao central do Brasil/Central Station - Brasil
Los Lunes al Sol/ Mondays at Sunset - Spain
Nueve Reinas/Nine Queens- Argentina
Caídos del Cielo/Fallen from Heaven- Perú
Bajo la Piel/Under the Skin - Perú
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Kal on March 04, 2004, 05:01:23 PM
Vile5, did you see "Paper Dove" de Fabrizio Aguilar?

o "El Destino no tiene favoritos" de Alvaro Velarde?
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Vile5 on March 04, 2004, 10:07:38 PM
Of course i did!
I liked the style of El Destino no tiene Favoritos, very interesting and i enjoyed Paloma de Papel too, particularly the takes of the Andean Landscape (i love Andean Landscape btw) but i couldn't say they are in my 'favorites' list, even so i liked them.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Kal on March 04, 2004, 11:37:21 PM
I met both Directors a couple of months ago... interesting people... liked the movies too...
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 05, 2004, 12:45:55 AM
Quote from: Vile5i'm tired to listening to people calling us Spanish people
And isn't Hispanic just as bad?
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Weird. Oh on March 05, 2004, 04:23:47 AM
Quote from: Vile5First at all:
Spain is a country situated in a continent called Europe
Second:
Latin America is a group of countries which languages have a Latin root and they are situated in a continent called America


I want to applaud you on your cutting wit and sarcasm  :wink: A Quick Lesson In World History: Those countries you speak of root are not latin based, persay. Just a reminder that Spanish conquistadors came over to convert your "heathen natives" to catholicism and instilled the Spanish language during the great period of time known as the Inquisition, in fact, you might have heard of it  :wink: . Since Spanish is a Romance Language (Language based upon Latin), then I'd say Spanish could  be a rather appopriate title  :lol:  

P.S.  I'd like you to point out the continent of America on a map to me also.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: cron on March 05, 2004, 04:37:51 AM
one simple rule in mexican cinema: stay away from Guillermo Sarinana
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: cine on March 05, 2004, 07:27:16 AM
Quote from: Weirdo1769movieMikeSince Spanish is a Romance Language (Language based upon Latin), then I'd say Spanish could  be a rather appopriate title  :lol:  
Not necessarily. If Spanish IS a Romance Language, then why don't we compromise and rename the thread to 'Romance Cinema' and fuck EVERYBODY'S heads up when they read the title, click the link, and see John Leguizamo's The Pest poster.

... Well, it's only an idea.
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Vile5 on March 05, 2004, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: Weirdo1769movieMike
Quote from: Vile5First at all:
Spain is a country situated in a continent called Europe
Second:
Latin America is a group of countries which languages have a Latin root and they are situated in a continent called America


I want to applaud you on your cutting wit and sarcasm  :wink: A Quick Lesson In World History: Those countries you speak of root are not latin based, persay. Just a reminder that Spanish conquistadors came over to convert your "heathen natives" to catholicism and instilled the Spanish language during the great period of time known as the Inquisition, in fact, you might have heard of it  :wink: .
Oh my darling, i think you never got my point, even so that was funny, but just to correct you in some points, the period you talk about is not Inquisition, the Spanish invasion (what, as everybody knows, began in 1492) is called Colonization, and the Spanish Inquisition began in the XIII century but arrived in Latin America in the XVI century, so one thing was the Inquisition and other the Spanish Colonization in America. :wink:

Quote from: Weirdo1769movieMikeSince Spanish is a Romance Language (Language based upon Latin), then I'd say Spanish could  be a rather appopriate title  :lol:
i think you forgot we were talking about Brazilian movies too, so i think the word "Spanish" is not that appropriate... so i'm with Cinephile just call this thread Romace Cinema and shut our mouths up!
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Weird. Oh on March 06, 2004, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Vile5

just to correct you in some points, the period you talk about is not Inquisition, the Spanish invasion (what, as everybody knows, began in 1492) is called Colonization, and the Spanish Inquisition began in the XIII century but arrived in Latin America in the XVI century, so one thing was the Inquisition and other the Spanish Colonization in America. :wink:

Touche. I did mean invasion, not inquisition :cry:

Quote from: Weirdo1769movieMikeSince Spanish is a Romance Language (Language based upon Latin), then I'd say Spanish could  be a rather appopriate title  :lol:
Quote from: Vile5
i think you forgot we were talking about Brazilian movies too, so i think the word "Spanish" is not that appropriate... so i'm with Cinephile just call this thread Romace Cinema and shut our mouths up!

I agree. Romance theatre it is.      :wink:  My favorite new Romance Cinema would be The Passion of the Christ  :lol:
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: rustinglass on March 06, 2004, 02:06:01 PM
Since we have Brasil, can we include portuguese films as well, that way we would include the whole of the iberic peninsula and south america without any confusion.
(I'm not tralking about including all portuguese language cinema, that would be confusing, then we would have to include cabo verde, s. tomé e príncipe, guiné, angola, mozambique and east timor also)
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Alexandro on March 06, 2004, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: rustinglassSince we have Brasil, can we include portuguese films as well, that way we would include the whole of the iberic peninsula and south america without any confusion.
(I'm not tralking about including all portuguese language cinema, that would be confusing, then we would have to include cabo verde, s. tomé e príncipe, guiné, angola, mozambique and east timor also)

cool...talking about Portugal...have you seen the films by Manoel de Oliveira??? They're quiet, slow and intersting...

The Convent, with Malkovich and Catherine Denueve, has horrible reviews all over the internet, but I thought it was great, and funny, and mysterious...
Title: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: rustinglass on March 06, 2004, 04:34:47 PM
I like some of oliveira's films (shamefully, I haven't seen that many), some I really dislike. He's very respected here, but I have a theory that the french like him better than we do. Along with João César Monteiro (recently died) e is what americans call "old school", but I don't apreciate them as much as I respect them.
Now, portuguese directors that I really like and am very proud of are Teresa Villaverde and Fernando Lopes, has anyone here ever seen nay film by them?

Other directors I'd like to mention: João Canijo, Raquel Freire, José Fonseca e Costa, José Miguel Ribeiro and Vítor Moreira(hasn't yet directed a feature but made one of the best short cuts I've ever seen)
Title: Re: Spanish / Latino cinema
Post by: Reinhold on September 11, 2006, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 22, 2004, 12:19:48 PM
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we watched this in spanish class when i was a junior in high school. the sub didn't know wtf was going on.