Holy shit. I've never seen a more disgustingly overt attempt at legitimizing pornography by bookending it with kids getting beaten and doing drugs... LOVE larry clark, but this was just too much... anyone seen it?
Quote from: Film StudentI've never seen a more disgustingly overt attempt at legitimizing pornography by bookending it with kids getting beaten and doing drugs
your talking about
Kids right.... :wink:
..nah..havenn't seen it yet......but i will just to see how bad clarks film can get........worse and worse......
spill the details on the phucked-up-ness please........
haven't seen it...bought bully without seeing it first...tough stuff to watch. it's not 'friendly cinema'..where did you get to see it?
If you're talking about Kids, I just watched it last night. I think it was pretty disgusting. The kids behavior is that of animals in a jungle. The kids just fucking each other as conquests. There was absolutely no hope for these kids because they are scum. Perhaps this was the desired effect but I found it quite agonizing to watch.
Those few who have seen Ken Park have posted their thoughts in the last few pages of this thread:
http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=950&start=0
For the record, I feel exactly the same way about it as Film Student, I think.
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The most disguting part is the guy who strangles himself while jerking off. And you actually get to see everything.
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The most disguting part is the guy who strangles himself while jerking off. And you actually get to see everything.
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hahahahhahahaa!!!!!!!!!!...thats. so stupid.....
is he trying to hang himself..while doing it or....is one hand on the neck while the other is on the skin flute?....
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it's called auto-erotic asphyxiation, and don't knock it till u've tried it.
Quote from: Pit's called auto-erotic asphyxiation, and don't knock it till u've tried it.
....touche... :wink:
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: kotteSPOILER
The most disguting part is the guy who strangles himself while jerking off. And you actually get to see everything.
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hahahahhahahaa!!!!!!!!!!...thats. so stupid.....
is he trying to hang himself..while doing it or....is one hand on the neck while the other is on the skin flute?....
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He hung himself in a string tied to the doorknob while listen to Kornikovas tennis moan. I never thought I'd see a (from the looks of it) serious actor jerk off and spritz all over him...yuck...
I
will knock it cause I won't try it.
okay, but the fact that Clark had a guy beat it to Anna K and jizz on film -- well, that's hilarious, and almost makes me wanna see this movie...
Quote from: SoNowThenokay, but the fact that Clark had a guy beat it to Anna K and jizz on film -- well, that's hilarious, and almost makes me wanna see this movie...
That
is hilarious! If that's the most "disturbing" thing Clark puts in, then this movie is going to be horrible. It's waaaay too over-the-top for me to take seriously.
Wait, I just thought of something. This sounds like something Bunuel would put in for humor.
I hated it
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that masturbation scene is so disgusting , my god... I bet someone somewhere vomited in the theares while watching this.
I'm against distributers editing he film but Jesus Christ! I really don't need to see a tracking shot of semen, it was just sick! Why the hell didn't they cut that?!
This film proves Clark is a sensationalist...it totally lacks character.
There was no thread...just that kids are animals but in real life kids aren't.
The whole film felt like a set-up to something...a punch-line...it never came...it just ended...and left people very unsatisfied.
Okay, I asked this in the other thread, but it seems more people are talking here...
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Am I wrong in thinking that the 3 way scene near the end is imaginary or a fantasy of sorts (and I don't mean a Larry Clark masturbation fantasy, well maybe :wink: )? All of the stories had their natural end (all downers), and then this scene came out of left field. When the one guy talks about utopia, I instantly thought, 'oh, this is what they wish life could be like.' The 3 are in some unnamed apartment we've never seen before, all are happy, all have escaped their situations. Seemed like a fantasy to me.
The point of the film didn't get across to me...
Can someone please tell me...and not the 'kids in trouble. Lower class. bla bla bla' thing...and if it is, like all his films, it's the most meaningless film of all time...
I don't think the film is totally meaningless at all. Sure, it's graphic as hell, but I found it quite funny (as an extreme satire of sorts). If you really want some kind of point, what about the last scene? That poor, pathetic girl and Ken Park discussing whether or not they should keep their child. Sure it's nihilstic and has a 'life sucks' motto, but Ken questions whether he should have ever been born, and whether or not he should bring someone else into this world. It's no mistake that Amanda Plummer is pregnant in that storyline.
So all these characters represent the world he's unsure about bringing a baby to?
Quote from: PawbloeQuote from: SoNowThenokay, but the fact that Clark had a guy beat it to Anna K and jizz on film -- well, that's hilarious, and almost makes me wanna see this movie...
That is hilarious! If that's the most "disturbing" thing Clark puts in, then this movie is going to be horrible. It's waaaay too over-the-top for me to take seriously.
Wait, I just thought of something. This sounds like something Bunuel would put in for humor.
hahaha...Annna K...sh*t is funny .......its perfect icing on the cake...
...annnd people actually consider this "art"?..i do want to see it..bu tthe same way one would want to see "The Hot Chick".something to laugh at how over the top/stupid it is.......
I watched this last night for the first time since I saw it upon its initial release. I remember seeing Ken Park a decade ago and not really knowing what to think, dismissing it as mere provocation, but revisiting it now I think it's incredibly underrated. Tate's segment (the kid and his grandparents) is a bit excessive maybe, but on the whole I thought the film was pretty great and a high cut above the rest of Larry Clark's movies. Any hate directed towards this film I think comes from the feeling that it's sort of misanthropic and its characters aren't sympathetic in the least, but on a pure filmmaking level it's really well done and the situations in the movie, although unpleasant, are always evocative. The movie stretches out minutiae in a similar way that Raymond Carver short stories do. Tonally, it felt like a close relative of Welcome to the Dollhouse and Storytelling, but with a less humorous (and even if minimally so, comforting) cushion than those movies have.
The full thing is available to watch on youtube.
Ken Park (2002) - NSFW
Thanks! I've wanted to see this for AGES, it's been hard to find...