I read somewhere that Paul wanted Samuel L. Jackson to play "Buck" in "Boogie Nights" but he got the script and just... didn't get it?
Well, this had me thinking... is Paul making it his mission to put all his stars in every one of his movies? And if so... why isn't Don Cheadle included? Don't get me wrong... out of the whole bunch he is the WORST actor (still good) but I don't see why he couldn't play Orlando Jones' role.
Quote from: ckad79I read somewhere that Paul wanted Samuel L. Jackson to play "Buck" in "Boogie Nights" but he got the script and just... didn't get it?
Interesting.
Quote from: ckad79Well, this had me thinking... is Paul making it his mission to put all his stars in every one of his movies?
No. The only one who has been is Philip Seymour Hoffman. PTA and John C. Reilly were considering JCR's being in Punch-Drunk Love, but Reilly was incredibly active at the time (Chicago, Gangs of New York, The Hours) and they ultimately decided it wasn't good for him. PTA loves his actors, he says, but I doubt he's too insistent on making all of them part of every film.
Quote from: ckad79And if so... why isn't Don Cheadle included?
Who knows? He was perfect as Buck, but I can't imagine any other role he'd be good for. Maybe Worm? Nah, Orlando Jones's back was brilliant enough. Hehe.
I love Don Cheadle, he deserves more roles.
His NFL spots are great
Quote from: Duck SauceI love Don Cheadle, he deserves more roles.
His NFL spots are great
i agree...
Quote from: ckad79I read somewhere that Paul wanted Samuel L. Jackson to play "Buck" in "Boogie Nights" but he got the script and just... didn't get it?
Yeah, he said that on the directors commentary on BN. I can't imagine seeing Sam Jackson in the buck role, at least not the way Cheadle played him, but it probably would have been worlds different.
Jackson was probably too afraid of not looking cool.
That annoys me, that he's in Star Wars, it's his dream, Lucas grants it, then he's like, "Well, I'm not gonna go out like a punk!" Geez, you'll go out like a punk if he wants you to! Sadly, Lucas gave in again.
But that's another topic for another thread for another forum for another time (I'm at work).
he hasn't done that many good movies, nor is he very important or anything, but yet he's one of my favorite actors. there's just something about him, i dunno. maybe it's that huge cock of his.
When I first heard about Sam Jackson turning down Buck, my first reaction was "good thing!". But now I can kind of see what PTA was getting at. I think it could have been one of Sam's best roles. I think PTA was looking for Sam Jackson to play a more human version of Jules from Pulp Fiction.
I can definitely see Sam Jackson doing it when we first meet Buck. Infact, I think it would have made that joke (the "you think he's into cool soul music but it turns out he's into country music" joke) a bit funnier. Just imagine, you are talking to Jules, he's talking about sound systems and the reasons he liked this particular model, with that deep soulful voice of his. And then he says "lets take it for a test drive", and the howdown music breaks in and he start hootin' and hollerin'. I think that would have been hilarious. But with Don Cheadle doing it, it seems a little more believable for him to be into country music, so it makes it a little less funnier. Because Don Cheadle doesn't have that gritty, been-around-the-block look.
Actually now that I think of it, as much as I love Don Cheadle, I think Sam would have been a little better for the part. Don't get me wrong, I love Don. I masturbate while thinking of him, like, a lot. But I really wish Sam took the part.
My opinion is Don Cheadle is a great actor, especially in this movie. It is his best performace and one of my favorites in the whole movie. Sam Jackson just wouldn't have been the same.
Also, on the Boognie Nights DVD, it sounds like Don Cheadle was very skeptikal of PTA's directing skills. It was Julianne Moore who reassured him.
I would love to see these two work together again in whatever PTA does next.
One thing I never really figured out. On the commentary Don talks about how they could see the camera reflect on the windows and who crazy PTA was for saying it didn't matter.
Do you know what this was all about? Since when is it a good thing to have the camera in the shot?
Quote from: kotteOne thing I never really figured out. On the commentary Don talks about how they could see the camera reflect on the windows and who crazy PTA was for saying it didn't matter.
Do you know what this was all about? Since when is it a good thing to have the camera in the shot?
Yeah he said something to the effect of "Does this kid know what he is doing" it was weird to me also. And I always look for the camera in that scene. Robert Elswit probably fixed it since that dumb kid didn't know what he was doing.
Quote from: StefenQuote from: kotteOne thing I never really figured out. On the commentary Don talks about how they could see the camera reflect on the windows and who crazy PTA was for saying it didn't matter.
Do you know what this was all about? Since when is it a good thing to have the camera in the shot?
Yeah he said something to the effect of "Does this kid know what he is doing" it was weird to me also. And I always look for the camera in that scene. Robert Elswit probably fixed it since that dumb kid didn't know what he was doing.
It felt like he
did know what he was doing but Don just didn't get it...I don't know.
Could cheadle have pulled off a better bad guy than sam jackson did in Sydney?
Quote from: zerocool41Could cheadle have pulled off a better bad guy than sam jackson did in Sydney?
I don't think so.
Jackson is the original
bad motherfucker.
Quote from: kotteJackson is the original bad motherfucker.
unfortunately that's all he can be now.
Quote from: PQuote from: kotteJackson is the original bad motherfucker.
unfortunately that's all he can be now.
Tru dat
Quote from: LinkQuote from: PQuote from: kotteJackson is the original bad motherfucker.
unfortunately that's all he can be now.
Tru dat
yeah he needs to ..lay off made for tv movies like basic ...and do the red violin 2: no strings attached.....
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: LinkQuote from: PQuote from: kotteJackson is the original bad motherfucker.
unfortunately that's all he can be now.
Tru dat
yeah he needs to ..lay off made for tv movies like basic ...and do the red violin 2: no strings attached.....
Hah! Best post of the month. All eight days of it.
Fresh Air has an interview (http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=04/06/2004)[/url] with Don Cheadle tonight. It's pretty good, and she squeezes some substantial Boogie Nights information out of him.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanFresh Air has an interview (http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=04/06/2004)[/url] with Don Cheadle tonight. It's pretty good, and she squeezes some substantial Boogie Nights information out of him.
What do they say? (I can't listen)
Quote from: StefenWhat do they say? (I can't listen)
they play the TK421 scene. she laughs at the quads per channel. they talk about how PTA came up with that joke "what's the most wrong thing he could say". then they talk about the donuts/robbery/for the christmas scene.. he says the shop was on magnolia blvd, talks about the moral dilemma in the scene.. says that paul's specialty is writing things that don't make sense and yet make a lot of sense. then they talk about his height.
Quote from: PubrickQuote from: StefenWhat do they say? (I can't listen)
they play the TK421 scene. she laughs at the quads per channel. they talk about how PTA came up with that joke "what's the most wrong thing he could say". then they talk about the donuts/robbery/for the christmas scene.. he says the shop was on magnolia blvd, talks about the moral dilemma in the scene.. says that paul's specialty is writing things that don't make sense and yet make a lot of sense. then they talk about his height.
haha thanks P. I post from work and don't get any audio.
Quote from: Stefenhaha thanks P. I post from work and don't get any audio.
Looks like you've been audiOWNED!!!!!!!
yeah, i think i'm done doing this...
i think this is appropriate:
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Quote from: CinephileQuote from: Stefenhaha thanks P. I post from work and don't get any audio.
Looks like you've been audiOWNED!!!!!!!
yeah, i think i'm done doing this...
Hey Cinephile. Where is my Stallone impression?!
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:lol:
It really doesn't matter anymore, Stefen. That Stallowned thing is gold.
hahahaha......classic
DAAAAWH Don Cheadle was NOT the worst. Although, without thinking, I think the worst was Melora Walters, who made up for it in Magnolia, although she was good in her role in Boogie Nights (her characters name totally slipped my mind)
Naw, naw wait...the worst actor was Johnny Doe.
My Mistake. :lol:
Quote from: AntiDumbFrogQuestionDAAAAWH Don Cheadle was NOT the worst. Although, without thinking, I think the worst was Melora Walters, who made up for it in Magnolia, although she was good in her role in Boogie Nights (her characters name totally slipped my mind)
Naw, naw wait...the worst actor was Johnny Doe.
My Mistake. :lol:
What you talkin bout willis? Melora Walters had like four lines in boogie nights. As did Johnny Doe. But Doe died, so we have to be nice to him. And so walters it is.
Cheadle Going Gangster
Latest on American Gangster.
Hotel Rwanda and Ocean's 11/12 star Don Cheadle is poised to snag the lead role in American Gangster, according to today's Variety.
Cheadle, who was first linked to the previously troubled project back in March when filmmaker Terry George was brought on, will be officially offered the role once George completes the script.
George is currently rewriting the previous version of the screenplay by Oscar-winner Steve Zaillian, with budget considerations in mind.
The story, based on a New York magazine article by Mark Jacobson, centers around Vietnam-era heroin smuggler Frank Lucas (Cheadle) and his arrest by New York detective Richie Roberts. After his arrest, Lucas informed on his fellow criminals and on dirty cops.
In its previous incarnation (before being halted due to concerns over a $100 million budget), Antoine Fuqua would have directed Denzel Washington and Benicio Del Toro in the flick. The budget for the Cheadle-ized version is reportedly set at around $50 million.
Cheadle jazzed for Davis biopic
Actor will produce, direct, star in film
Source: Variety
Don Cheadle has solidified five feature film projects that he'll produce and star in. Among them is a biopic of jazz legend Miles Davis, on which he plans to make his feature directing debut.
Cheadle, who is being honored today as ShoWest male star of the year, has set up the projects through Crescendo Prods., the shingle in which he partners with longtime managers Kay Liberman and Lenore Zerman.
"Nixon" scribes Stephen J. Rivele and Chris Wilkinson are penning the Davis film, and Liberman and Zerman said they have secured music and life rights to the jazz legend, with whom Cheadle has long been intrigued.
"Miles pushed the envelope and was never satisfied and kept evolving," Liberman said.
Crescendo's producing with Cary Brokaw and Vince Wilburn Jr. and Darryl Porter of Miles Davis Properties. They have waited to complete the package before bringing it to financiers, with Cheadle aboard to direct.
Other projects on Crescendo's slate:
"Traitor" is a politically charged drama that was written and will be directed by Jeff Nachmanoff ("The Day After Tomorrow"). Overture's Chris McGurk and Danny Rosett are negotiating to finance a film that Crescendo will produce with Mandeville's David Hoberman and Todd Lieberman.
Cheadle will star as an operative embedded in a terrorist organization who becomes the target of federal agents; they fear he's crossed the line and actually become a terrorist himself.
"Quest to Ref" is a comic vehicle for Cheadle, scripted by Ben Watkins and Guy Guillet. Story concerns a disenchanted lawyer who follows his life dream to become a pro basketball ref.
Peter Biegen-scripted drama "Broken Adonis" has Michael Apted attached to direct. Crescendo will produce with Apted, Jeanney Kim and Sandy Kroopf. Story concerns an ex-con (Cheadle) who forms an unlikely relationship with a border patrol officer and her young informant.
Cheadle continues to work with "Ocean's" co-star Brad Pitt's Plan B and Reason Pictures on "Marching Powder," a fact-based story of a drug dealer who spent five years as a tour guide in the notorious San Pedro Prison in Bolivia. Cheadle will play the tour guide.
In addition Cheadle is producing, with "Crash" cohort Cathy Schulman and Jonathan Mark Harris, the Participant/Warner Independent docu "An Indifferent World," which is already in production. Cheadle is one of five subjects of the film who are trying to address genocide in Darfur. Ted Braun is directing and is in the Sudan shooting the film.
Cheadle, who made his producing debut on "Crash," is also co-writing the upcoming Hyperion book "Not on Our Watch," a handbook for activism that describes his own awakening to strife in Africa after he starred in "Hotel Rwanda."
His Crescendo partners said that while Cheadle continues to work steadily -- he's about to open opposite Adam Sandler in "Reign Over Me," then reprises in "Ocean's Thirteen" in June and stars in "Talk to Me" in July -- he is determined to be the architect of his future acting opportunities. They recently brought in Arlene Gibbs to be senior veep of production.
"Don has always made strong choices and been very smart about identifying and developing strong material, and that is what drives this company," Zerman said. "In the current climate, coming in with strong projects makes you feel like you're more a master of your own destiny."
You know, for years, I've been afraid they'd give the Miles Davis biopic to Wesley Snipes and prayed they'd give it Cheadle. Great news.
Dead musician biopic + actor's directorial debut = Oscar!
or Todd Field. or Tarantino. or Gibson. or check out some Fassbinder. or some Orson Welles. if anything the idea that an actor is directing makes me more excited.