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Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: life_boy on January 09, 2003, 06:01:40 AM
Anyone want to talk about some of the worst films released last year?  Or any films that should have been so much better than they were (ie. Red Dragon)?

'Time Changer' was a horrible movie.  I'm not sure if anyone else saw it but it was a real piece of pretentious shit.

I hated 'Death to Smoochy'.  It was the biggest 'shame' of 2002 in my opinion.  So much talent wasted.

'Red Dragon' could have been great if it had had a director who knew anything about subtlety.  The script was good, the actors were great but what it needed wasn't someone who's previous films weren't 'Rush Hour' movies.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Dirk on January 09, 2003, 06:04:39 AM
I still cringe seeing anything related to 'xXx'. That movie gets my vote.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: life_boy on January 09, 2003, 06:13:55 AM
Well you should be pleased to know that the cast and crew are reuniting for the followup 'XXX2' in 2004.  Also, be sure to catch Vin Diesel's 'Oscar worthy' performance in 'A Man Apart' due later this year.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on January 09, 2003, 11:20:48 AM
"Orange County"
"Windtalkers"
"Showtime"
"The Truth About Charlie"
"Spy Kids 2"
"The Transporter"
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Xixax on January 09, 2003, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin"Spy Kids 2"

Oh, look out now. Don't mess with diety.

Mike Judge is sacred territory!

You have to watch that movie through the eyes of a kid anyway. It's not meant for us movie snobs.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on January 09, 2003, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: Michael_WilsonYou have to watch that movie through the eyes of a kid anyway. It's not meant for us movie snobs.

I disagree, I don't think these films are entirely for kids. And even with the kid filled audience I saw it with, it was silent; no laughs or 'cool' comments, etc. I enjoyed the first one, but thought that this second one was very uninvolving as an audience member; I think it suffered from the sequel virus better known as "Been there, done that."

I've never considered myself a 'movie snob'. Hell, I saw "Crossroads" and thought it was better.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: budgie on January 09, 2003, 01:27:46 PM
Of the ones I've seen, but shit now can't even remember if it was 2002: About A Boy. Oh yeah, it was. Wasn't it?

help, what year is it now?

Oh God, and Sweet Sixteen.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 09, 2003, 06:03:56 PM
Death to Smoochy
The Scorpion King
Collateral Damage
Die Another Day
Insomnia
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 09, 2003, 09:00:25 PM
Ghosts of Mars. For an action movie, it was pretty damn boring.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: RegularKarate on January 09, 2003, 10:22:49 PM
Spy Kids 2 was good.  It just wasn't as good as Spy Kids.
Ghosts of Mars was what it was supposed to be and therefore Awesome.  (Banana Tan, I thought you liked JC)

My vote goes for Stealing Harvard... there was so much talent in that movie, yet so little funny.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 11, 2003, 12:59:41 AM
I do love John Carpenter, but Vampires was no good and Ghosts was not as good as it could have been. He should stick to his traditional horror gig, as action is not really his forte. On the old boards I said several times that I really liked Resident Evil because it was very actiony, they showed what you wanted to see, and dumbed it down so you didn't concentrate on the stupid things in the movie (like, why the hell would they take the survivors down to the hive anyway), and concentrated more on Milla Jovovich cracking zombies necks with her head. In Ghosts, it felt too much like it was trying to be a Resident Evil type movie, with the loud guitar music and killing the ghosts (or whatever they were), but it was just uninspired. It was a movie where I should've been going, "Aw shit, that's awesome, Ice Cube just shot up a zombie!" but instead it was more like, "well, whatever." Plus the ending was lame. Too much left open, but in a bad way.
Title: God Damn's Offical worst movies!!!!
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 13, 2003, 12:29:05 AM
Punch Drunk Love No nipples! No Poon! Nothing! You'd expect more with "Drunk love" in the name, but dont be fooled!!!!

About Schmidt although seeing Kathy Bates Naked did boost up the school of this little erotic thriller, my boner did cease everytime i saw Jack's stupid grin...

LOTR:The Two towers FUCK MIDDLE EARTH!!!!!!! FUCK IT I SAY!!!!! DIE MIDDLE EARTH!!!

:lol:
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: XL NEGRO on January 13, 2003, 02:42:21 AM
I guess none of you people have seen AMERICAN PSYCHO 2. Austin Powers: Goldmember was pretty awful too.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 13, 2003, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: XL NEGROI guess none of you people have seen AMERICAN PSYCHO 2. Austin Powers: Goldmember was pretty awful too.


That's funny i believe those two are the best of the year, if not...THE BEST OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: tpfkabi on January 13, 2003, 09:55:20 PM
i agree Goldmember was horrible.
i didn't care too much for the Rules of Attraction....tried a little too hard to be cool and i don't care to watch men dancing in their underwear for extended periods of time
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 13, 2003, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: bigideasi agree Goldmember was horrible.
i didn't care too much for the Rules of Attraction....tried a little too hard to be cool and i don't care to watch men dancing in their underwear for extended periods of time

Goldmember was by far the worst movie I saw this whole year, and maybe a contender for the worst movie ever.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 13, 2003, 11:04:34 PM
I thought Goldmember was funny because it didn't even try. They just went out with a few million dollars and fucked around on camera. I enjoy movies where you can just sit back and laugh at the ridiculousness. I'm not very picky with my comedies.

Besides, you can't tell me you didn't think the first five minutes was simply brilliant.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Rudie Obias on January 13, 2003, 11:57:30 PM
i would say the biggest disappointment for me this year was THE RULES OF ATTRACTION.  it had a lot going for it like style using split screen and my favorite "my trip to europe" montage but i wish there was something more to the story and characters.  i like the masterbation, the coke and the sex but pointless violence is NOT my cup of tea.  although i'm a big fan of ultra-violence.  some of the directing choice were bad too, like give the audience credit then taking it completely away in one scene.  the psuedo-artsy stuff was also bad like the snow flake falling on james vanderbeek's face then turning into a tear.  was he tearful or did the snow flake melt?  it just came off as cheesy.  thanks roger avary for thinking we're idiots.

CQ was also a disappointment for me.  another style over story film.

CHELSEA WALLS also disappointed me but i did love robert sean lenard and steve zahn scenes.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 14, 2003, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: bonanzatazI thought Goldmember was funny because it didn't even try. They just went out with a few million dollars and fucked around on camera. I enjoy movies where you can just sit back and laugh at the ridiculousness. I'm not very picky with my comedies.

Besides, you can't tell me you didn't think the first five minutes was simply brilliant.

I usually would agree with this, but I dont remember laughing at all during this movie. Maybe once. I think the premise has is tired and they just resort to gags more than they did with the first (which was my favorite). I actually hated this movie.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: XL NEGRO on January 14, 2003, 04:38:36 AM
Rules of Attraction was a real dissapointment. Whats with the "lets be cool, hip and edgy for the sake of being cool, hip and edgy" attitude? Didnt that die around 1994-95???

BOY did that snowflake thing top the charts as the most pretensious thing all year. Behind me was a big old black woman who saw that and said "Artistic." Nothing more. And the suicide scene was pretty pointless, I guess he enjoys photographing people killing themselves, because it had no bearing on the film whatsoever.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 15, 2003, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: budgieOf the ones I've seen, but shit now can't even remember if it was 2002: About A Boy. Oh yeah, it was. Wasn't it?

What was so bad about it? I just rented it from blockbuster and I enjoyed it. It became a bit sappy towards the end, but other than that I thought it was a fine movie. Not the best of the year, but certainly not the worst of 2002...
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: XL NEGRO on January 15, 2003, 10:36:42 PM
Swimfan was pretty bad too, but it made it even more entertaining. I remember the trailer played with Goldmember, and I laughed more at the Swimfan trailer than i did the entire goldmember movie. Still, i think Swimfan will go down as a cult-classic
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 18, 2003, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: budgieOf the ones I've seen, but shit now can't even remember if it was 2002: About A Boy. Oh yeah, it was. Wasn't it?

What was so bad about it? I just rented it from blockbuster and I enjoyed it. It became a bit sappy towards the end, but other than that I thought it was a fine movie. Not the best of the year, but certainly not the worst of 2002...

I just saw this and I was very pleased by it up until the last third. I admired the shallow humor but then it seemed like the last part was written by somebody from the Disney channel... Overly sappy and out of place. So I watch the "Making of" on the DVD and the directors say "we totally created the last third of the movie, it wasnt in the book." Poorly done.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 19, 2003, 04:15:04 PM
Ah come on, About a Boy was one of the few treasures of last summer. Its a Hugh Grant romantic comedy and calling it too sappy or or what not is not really fitting for his movie at all. Its like dismissing most of the great Hollywood comedies because all they did was march to a formula. It doesn't matter because within the genre, this is a very good movie with Hugh Grant at his best and doing what no one else can do better. Movie may not be the most important movie, but a damn good movie for its genre of romantic comedy these days.

~rougerum
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 19, 2003, 05:15:40 PM
Oh boy. Directors are the same guys that did American Pie. I can't believe they changed the book. Now I'm going to have to read it to see what really happens.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Rudie Obias on January 20, 2003, 02:32:34 AM
Quote from: XL NEGROSwimfan was pretty bad too, but it made it even more entertaining. I remember the trailer played with Goldmember, and I laughed more at the Swimfan trailer than i did the entire goldmember movie. Still, i think Swimfan will go down as a cult-classic

dude, swimfan rocked!  i really liked it and i loved the trailer!
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on January 21, 2003, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: rudieob
Quote from: XL NEGROSwimfan was pretty bad too, but it made it even more entertaining. I remember the trailer played with Goldmember, and I laughed more at the Swimfan trailer than i did the entire goldmember movie. Still, i think Swimfan will go down as a cult-classic

dude, swimfan rocked!  i really liked it and i loved the trailer!

What I loved about the trailer was that you didn't have to watch the movie, as the ENTIRE thing was handed to you in less than 2 minutes.

82nd post. Magnolia, all the way!
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Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: tpfkabi on January 22, 2003, 09:25:45 AM
swimfan was doomed in my opinion. for one, the lead actress was a Julia Stiles look alike, which is bad for me, since i don't find Stiles to be that attractive to begin with
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 10:24:41 AM
Quote from: bigideasswimfan was doomed in my opinion. for one, the lead actress was a Julia Stiles look alike, which is bad for me, since i don't find Stiles to be that attractive to begin with

That's Erika Christensen, she was in Traffic.

I think Julia Styles is pretty hot actually... I'm not usually into her type, there's just something about her.

She and Jason Lee are both decent actors that I like, but always get shitty roles.  Now they're in a shitty movie together.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Thecowgoooesmooo on January 22, 2003, 03:51:00 PM
Goldmember as the worst movie ever? Nah don't think so, I think I laughed once during the whole movie though. I was very dissapointed. Got the dvd for X mas for some god damn reason, I dont know, but I found lil funny parts to repeat over and over to myself... For example.. "Casey and the Sunshine Band..."

My girlfriend made me see Swimfan, I'd give it a 1 out of 10. Fuckin horrible.

chris
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 22, 2003, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceGoldmember was by far the worst movie I saw this whole year, and maybe a contender for the worst movie ever.

It wasn't great, but it definitely wasn't the worst movie ever... if nothing else, because of the cameo orgy and the classic silhouette scene.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Duck SauceGoldmember was by far the worst movie I saw this whole year, and maybe a contender for the worst movie ever.

It wasn't great, but it definitely wasn't the worst movie ever... if nothing else, because of the cameo orgy and the classic silhouette scene.

That's true... I would say that I'm disapointed by the list of worst movies of the year because while a lot are bad, I wouldn't say they were the worst... I think because of the fact that most here have the ability of spotting a Kangaroo Jack from the trailers, this should be named the most disapointing movies of the year.

Speaking of Kangaroo Jack... who went to see that fucking thing?  You can't tell me it was number one last weekend and none of you went to see it.  SHAME!
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on January 22, 2003, 05:15:02 PM
Quote from: RegularKarateSpeaking of Kangaroo Jack... who went to see that fucking thing?  You can't tell me it was number one last weekend and none of you went to see it.  SHAME!

http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=225
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: RegularKarateSpeaking of Kangaroo Jack... who went to see that fucking thing?  You can't tell me it was number one last weekend and none of you went to see it.  SHAME!

http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=225

ACK!  I've been redirected... DAMN!

See XIXAXERS!  the new post /old post function doesn't work right and I get Mac-blasted
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: polkablues on January 23, 2003, 02:21:43 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again... ROLLERBALL!!!!!!!!!!!

By far the worst of 2002, and probably the worst since Highlander 2.  Rollerball brings new shame to the filmic medium.  I'm thinking of buying the DVD.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on February 10, 2003, 09:50:05 AM
23rd Annual RAZZIE Award® Nominations

KEY: (*) Indicates Former Oscar® Winner or Nominee
(#) Indicates Former RAZZIE® Winner or Nominee

Worst Picture:
THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH (Warner Bros.)
CROSSROADS (Paramount)
Roberto Benigni's PINOCCHIO (Miramax)
STAR WARS: EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES (Fox/Lucasfilm)
SWEPT AWAY (Screen Gems)

Worst Actor:
Roberto Benigni (Dubbed GODZILLA-Style by Breckin Meyer) PINOCCHIO*#
Adriano Giannini/SWEPT AWAY
Eddie Murphy/ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH, I SPY and SHOWTIME#
Steven Segal/HALF PAST DEAD#
Adam Sandler/ADAM SANDLER'S 8 CRAZY NIGHTS and MR. DEEDS#

Worst Actress:
Angelina Jolie/LIFE, OR SOMETHING LIKE IT*#
Jennifer Lopez/ENOUGH and MAID IN MANHATTAN#
Madonna/SWEPT AWAY#
Winona Ryder/MR. DEEDS*                                
Britney Spears/CROSSROADS        

WORST Supporting Actor:
Hayden Christensen/STAR WARS/EPISODE II: YADA-YADA-YODA            
Tom Green/STEALING HARVARD#  
Freddie Prinze, Jr./SCOOBY DOO
Christopher Walken/THE COUNTRY BEARS*
Robin Williams/DEATH TO SMOOCHY*

WORST Supporting Actress:
Lara Flynn Boyle/MEN IN BLACK II
Bo Derek/MASTER OF DISGUISE#
Madonna/DIE ANOTHER DAY#
Natalie Portman/STAR WARS: EPISODE...WHO CARES?#
Rebecca Ramijn-Stamos/ROLLERBALL

MOST FLATULENT TEEN-TARGETED MOVIE (New Category!):
ADAM SANDLER'S 8 CRAZY NIGHTS (Sony/Columbia)                      
CROSSROADS (Paramount)                  
JACKASS: THE MOVIE (Paramount)                  
SCOOBY DOO (Warner Bros.)                          
XXX (Sony/Revolution)

Worst Screen Couple:
Adriano Giannini & Madonna#/SWEPT AWAY
Roberto Benigni* & Nicoletta Braschi / Benigni's PINOCCHIO
Hayden Christensen & Natalie Portman#
STAR WARS/EPISODE II: SEND IN THE CLONES
Eddie Murphy# & EITHER Robert deNiro# (SHOWTIME) Owen Wilson (I SPY)or Himself Cloned (THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH)
Britney Spears & Whatever-His-Name-Was/CROSSROADS

Worst Director:
Roberto Benigni/PINOCCHIO*          
Tamra Davis/CROSSROADS
George Lucas/STAR WARS/EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE GROANS *
Guy Ritchie/SWEPT AWAY
Ron Underwood/THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH

Worst Remake or Sequel:
I SPY (Sony/Columbia)                    
MR. DEEDS (Columbia/New Line)            
Roberto Benigni's PINOCCHIO (Miramax)
STAR WARS/EPISODE II: WHAT-EVER (20th Century-Fox)                                      
SWEPT AWAY (Screen Gems)                                                              

Worst Screenplay:
THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH, Written by Neil Cuthbert                                                  
CROSSROADS, Screenplay by Shonda Rhimes
Roberto Benigni's PINOCCHIO, Screenplay by
Vincenzo Cerami and Roberto Benigni*
STAR WARS: EPISODE II: THE BOREDOM CONTINUES,
Screenplay by George Lucas* and Jonathon Hales              
SWEPT AWAY. Screenplay by Guy Ritchie

WORST 'ORIGINAL' SONG:
"Die Another Day" from DIE ANOTHER DAY
"I'm Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman" from CROSSROADS
"Overprotected" from CROSSROADS
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: ©brad on February 10, 2003, 10:12:10 AM
Swept Away must have been really really bad. With Madonna leaving him, this has no been the best year for Guy Ritchie.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Ghostboy on February 10, 2003, 10:36:04 AM
Wait, she's leaving Guy Ritchie?

Referring back to Goldmember, I didn't like the movie too much, but I could forgive it if it hadn't cost 70 MILLION DOLLARS to make. How the fuck do you spend 70 mil on that movie? I just don't understand. They didn't even once use trick photography to get Dr. Evil and Austin in the same shot...the first film had higher production values. I guess it all went into the Tom Cruise intro.

My own vote:

Rollerball
Death To Smoochy
Scooby Doo
XXX

Crossroads was just too darn fun to make fun of for me to hate it the way I hate the movies listed above.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 10, 2003, 10:45:34 AM
I always wanted to see the new Pinnochio, cause its looks like the most ridiculous movie ever made.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 10, 2003, 01:12:01 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI always wanted to see the new Pinnochio, cause its looks like the most ridiculous movie ever made.

I refer you to

http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=427
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Victor on February 10, 2003, 01:36:34 PM
you wanna talk overbudgeted? pluto nash cost almost 100 mil, made like 4 mil back. what a collossal piece of shit.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Cecil on February 10, 2003, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Lesteryou wanna talk overbudgeted? pluto nash cost almost 100 mil, made like 4 mil back. what a collossal piece of shit.

LOL
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on February 10, 2003, 06:39:48 PM
I forgot how incredibly awful 8 Crazy Nights was.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: SHAFTR on February 10, 2003, 06:48:05 PM
Outside the first 5 minutes of Goldmember...I struggled to finish the movie, and ultimately didn't.

About a Boy...bad?
No way.
I have the book, dvd and soundtrack and they are all entertaining.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Newtron on February 10, 2003, 09:08:03 PM
And where the hell is Ecks Vs Sever?

Wasn't that the biggest piece of shit ever?
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 11, 2003, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: NewtronAnd where the hell is Ecks Vs Sever?

Wasn't that the biggest piece of shit ever?

Ballistic: Ecks Vs. Sever, one of those movies they had a hard time deciding between 2 titles and just chose to go with both.
Title: .
Post by: Bud_Clay on February 15, 2003, 04:51:09 AM
did Far From Heaven come out before 2003?...if so, then I nominate Far From Heaven as the worst film of 2002....of course, i'm sure, XXX probably, no doubt, earns the title WORST FILM OF THE YEAR..who in their right minds would go see such a thing i ask?.....there are way too many shit films that come out every year that fail to distinguish themselves from one another...so am i right in assuming when we are naming a worst movie of the year, it is a movie that from trailers and posters had some questionable amount of potential?...yep...Far From Heaven wins if so.
Title: Re: .
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 15, 2003, 11:10:33 AM
Quote from: Bill Maplewooddid Far From Heaven come out before 2003?...if so, then I nominate Far From Heaven as the worst film of 2002....of course, i'm sure, XXX probably, no doubt, earns the title WORST FILM OF THE YEAR..who in their right minds would go see such a thing i ask?.....there are way too many shit films that come out every year that fail to distinguish themselves from one another...so am i right in assuming when we are naming a worst movie of the year, it is a movie that from trailers and posters had some questionable amount of potential?...yep...Far From Heaven wins if so.

It came out in fall 2002. Now, I didnt really like it, but how can you say it was the worst film? How can you look at it and say "this is a poorly made movie"?
Title: .
Post by: Bud_Clay on February 15, 2003, 05:04:55 PM
When I say "it's the worst movie of the year" it, to me, is the worst movie of the year because I'm not one to put any effort in seeing a movie that actually is the most deserving of the title....I think one of the most rediculous things about the movie was it's score....the score really made you take the movie less seriously than they were wanting you to...I thought at first the score was going to develope, as the characters did, (which would have been sort of interesting)..but no, the score stayed as that horrid 1950's nightmare housewife zombie tune all the way through. The entire story to me felt so pointless and overly familiar. It seemed as if from start to finish we had progressed non, what so ever.
I'm just now remembering "The Ring" as well...so hey....those are my two nominations.
Title: Re: .
Post by: MacGuffin on February 15, 2003, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodI think one of the most rediculous things about the movie was it's score....the score really made you take the movie less seriously than they were wanting you to...I thought at first the score was going to develope, as the characters did, (which would have been sort of interesting)..but no, the score stayed as that horrid 1950's nightmare housewife zombie tune all the way through.

That was the point.

QuoteThe entire story to me felt so pointless and overly familiar. It seemed as if from start to finish we had progressed non, what so ever.

So you hated the film because it didn't resolve rasism and gay prejudice?

Not gonna repeat myself, so if you care:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17
Title: .
Post by: Bud_Clay on February 15, 2003, 06:38:27 PM
I understand that that was the point, only to me rather than it working for them it made them look like they didn't know what they were doing.

As for the film resolving racism and gay prejudices I don't see how that has anything to do with a films actual substance...Those are mere topics, the substance is how you express those topics in a film...I felt they used those subjects in a very unintersting, uncreative way.

And again..I completely understand what they were trying to do with the film..."LOOK BENEATH THE SURFACE"...yes, i know...that's why they chose that horrid score to make you wanna shoot yourself in the head.

What if in 40 years they made a film with music similar to a sappy Hollywood film that's about a kid and his dog who likes to help him score home runs....purely as an effect so you have to look beneath the surface...? Because you know how it is...crappy music changes every century.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Ernie on February 15, 2003, 06:54:27 PM
The only film I really hated this past year was The Rules of Attraction. That's my vote for the worst film of the year and it looks like I'm not the only one. It was really disappointing too because I really thought it looked cool and edgy and fun like a few of you guys said. It just ended up being gimmicky though, especially with the whole rewinding effect. It seemed like it was trying too hard to be controversial.

Clockstoppers sucked too but I wasn't really expecting much, it wasn't even my taste, I saw it with my sister. Men In Black II was pretty bad for no reason at all. Spy Kids 2 sucked but I never saw the first one, to give it some slack. It's a kids movie anyway, like you guys said, it's not for film geeks. There was some stuff that I didn't even bother with like XXX and The Two Towers. I know I would have hated them, there's just no point.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on February 17, 2003, 11:05:55 PM
Quote from: ebeaman69The only film I really hated this past year was The Rules of Attraction. That's my vote for the worst film of the year and it looks like I'm not the only one. It was really disappointing too because I really thought it looked cool and edgy and fun like a few of you guys said. It just ended up being gimmicky though, especially with the whole rewinding effect. It seemed like it was trying too hard to be controversial.

For all those buying the DVD, be warned. From DVDFile's review:

But special mention must be made of what, I'm afraid, will probably be a big selling point for this DVD. The new screen-specific audio commentary by Carrot Top is the most depressing commentary experience I have ever had. Apparently, Avary thought it would be interesting to have Mr. Top watch the movie for the first time and provide his, uh, unique brand of insight. (Perhaps it sounded like a good idea?) Unfortunately, despite trying desperately to be funny (he's not), his wince-inducing misogynistic comments make it clear why he's probably never been laid in his entire life. He's a creep. This is what the "Off" button on your DVD player was made for.

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Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 17, 2003, 11:35:32 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinApparently, Avary thought it would be interesting to have Mr. Top watch the movie for the first time and provide his, uh, unique brand of insight.

I have lost the little amount of respect I have for Avary. And please stop identifying yourself in the same paragraph as Pulp Fiction.
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Post by: Bud_Clay on February 17, 2003, 11:55:26 PM
Oh HEY!..I got another bad movie of 2002 to announce..."Igby Goes Down". Even Jeff Goldblum had trouble praising the film on tv talk shows. hahaah, ehhhh..
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Cecil on February 18, 2003, 12:09:17 AM
Quote from: ebeaman69It seemed like it was trying too hard to be controversial.

hey i liked RoA alot and i still agree with what you say about the film.

and yes, the carrot top thing was a really really really stupid idea. i remember when he announced it on his site.... he wont do a commentary cause he doesnt want to sound stupid but hell have carrot top do one?
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Post by: Xixax on February 18, 2003, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodOh HEY!..I got another bad movie of 2002 to announce..."Igby Goes Down". Even Jeff Goldblum had trouble praising the film on tv talk shows. hahaah, ehhhh..
Oh man, don't tell me that. I have it coming in my Netflix this week and I've got high hopes for it... I'll have to report back in agreement or disagreement.

So many times the previews make movies look great, and then they suck. We'll see...
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Ghostboy on February 18, 2003, 12:43:59 AM
I didn't think 'Igby Goes Down' was too bad; it's an enjoyable ninety minutes, plus if you like Amanda Peet you'll get an eyeful here. I'm a big J.D. Salinger fan, and this definitely seemed to be crafted with his style in mind.

I really wanted to like Rules Of Attraction, because Avary's site is enjoyable, but it just wasn't very good. I'd buy the DVD, though, if it had more features. I always like interesting failures. I like the idea of the Carrot Top commentary, but couldn't he have picked a GOOD comedian? I can't believe some people think that redheaded fuck is funny.
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Post by: Bud_Clay on February 18, 2003, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: GhostboyI didn't think 'Igby Goes Down' was too bad; it's an enjoyable ninety minutes, plus if you like Amanda Peet you'll get an eyeful here. I'm a big J.D. Salinger fan, and this definitely seemed to be crafted with his style in mind.

Is Amanda Peet that woman the kid & jeff goldblum have sex with? I hope not, I remember thinking whatever woman that was was rather ugly.

I too am a tremendous J.D. Salinger fan. The Catcher In The Rye is my absolute favorite book. Igby Goes Down didnt remind me at all of it either. The entire way through the movie i was begging for the end to come so I could run to the next theater and catch a 2nd viewing of Punch-Drunk Love. I also hated "The Good Girl"...ACTUALLY, you know what? I think I will nominate "The Good Girl" as the absolute worst fucking move of 2002 NO DOUBT. I love John C. Reilly but that movie absolutely sucked beyond the fact that Jennifer Aniston was in it. If I was J.D. Salinger I'd have been offended beyond belief that a character, such as Jake's, was suppose to be Holden Caulfield. Although, I think the part of the movie that trully made you think "What in the hell is the point then?" is the end (of course). I don't want to give anything away for those of you who still plan on seeing it, so I'll leave it at that. It was just a dumb pointless movie to me.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Ghostboy on February 18, 2003, 01:29:45 AM
Yeah, that's Amanda Peet. Some people like her, some people hate her.  I think she's cute, but she generally picks horrible movies.

It's similar to 'Catcher' is that Igby gets kicked out of prep school and all and goes to live on his own in NYC. But it also reminded me a lot of the same elements as in the Glass family stories, and it has the same precocious, clever style that Salinger often used (and self-referentially poked fun at, in 'Franny and Zooey').  Wes Anderson has a similar style, but its far more sincere.

I didn't like The Good Girl, either. But there were a lot of movies in 2002 that were a million times worse.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: life_boy on February 18, 2003, 02:51:30 AM
The idea of a Carrot Top commentary sounds more like an idea one would joke about rather than actually follow through with.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: RegularKarate on February 18, 2003, 12:39:22 PM
I don't get how someone could see The Good Girl as the WORST film of 2002-- not liking it, I get, but WORST?

Maybe you just don't like good comedy.

They weren't actually comparing him to Holden Caufield... he was just a kid that thought he was deeper than he actually was.
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Post by: bonanzataz on February 18, 2003, 12:57:02 PM
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodIf I was J.D. Salinger I'd have been offended beyond belief that a character, such as Jake's, was suppose to be Holden Caulfield.

I thought that was the point. He's totally NOT Holden, but he really thinks he is and wants to be him SO badly that he tells people that his name is Holden. I didn't really like the film, but I didn't dislike it either. There were some classic, bizarre, Mike White moments that made me chuckel.
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Post by: Bud_Clay on February 18, 2003, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodIf I was J.D. Salinger I'd have been offended beyond belief that a character, such as Jake's, was suppose to be Holden Caulfield.

I thought that was the point. He's totally NOT Holden, but he really thinks he is and wants to be him SO badly that he tells people that his name is Holden.

You might be right. If that's what they were trying to go for then I completely didnt realise it. I thought it was a silly shallow interpretation of Holden, but I guess you are right. I still absolutely hate the ending. It's very hard for me to describe my distaste for the ending & it's even harder trying to not give anything away. The whole movie (especially the ending) just rubs me the wrong way.

But again, I don't think "The Good Girl" is the worst movie of 2002. But what I'm trying to say is that there are always going to be endless amounts of Hollywood propoganda bullshit that come out every year withthe same exact title, same exact plots and music as the ones just released. There's no way to keep track of these movies. And besides keeping track of them WHO WOULD WANT TO SEE THEM? I'm pretty much saying that those movies should be eliminated from our conscious because of them being so insignificant. So with that said (of all the movies in 2002 that interested me enough to go see them, even sometimes pay money) "The Good Girl", "The Ring", and "Far From Heaven" are the worst.
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Post by: polkablues on February 18, 2003, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: Xixax
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodOh HEY!..I got another bad movie of 2002 to announce..."Igby Goes Down". Even Jeff Goldblum had trouble praising the film on tv talk shows. hahaah, ehhhh..
Oh man, don't tell me that. I have it coming in my Netflix this week and I've got high hopes for it... I'll have to report back in agreement or disagreement.

So many times the previews make movies look great, and then they suck. We'll see...

Keep your high hopes alive.  I loved "Igby Goes Down".
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: polkablues on February 18, 2003, 03:48:49 PM
Oh, here's a genuine stinker that I just got around to renting: "Blood Work".  Here Clint Eastwood proves that he is only as good as the script he's working from.  This is a movie that is destined to end up on the TBS Superstation on a Saturday afternoon, sandwiched between "Striking Distance" and "Fair Game".
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: oakmanc234 on March 04, 2003, 02:50:53 AM
'American Psycho 2'-WHAT THE F***!

Words cant describe how bad a film that was. They took one of 2000's great films and made a truly, truly awful follow-up that is the worst sequel I've seen since 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2'.

'Ghosts of Mars' was a notable bore. 'Windtalkers' was suprisingly quite hokey (a thought the opening scene was a joke or something!).

MIB2 was a major dissapointment.

And as for 'Swept Away', IT WASN'T THAT BAD!
Maybe I just like Guy Ritchie too much to notice.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on March 04, 2003, 03:11:12 PM
American Psycho 2 was so bad that it wasn't even funny in the way I wanted it to be. It is a perfect example of a truly bad movie with no redeeming qualities at all.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: phil marlowe on March 04, 2003, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazAmerican Psycho 2 was so bad that it wasn't even funny in the way I wanted it to be. It is a perfect example of a truly bad movie with no redeeming qualities at all.

That's excactly how I felt while watching The Mummy Returns. I just couldn't laugh at those rediculous ancient egypt scenes. It was beyond the definition of "bad" I think.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Sigur Rós on March 04, 2003, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Phil Marlowe
That's excactly how I felt while watching The Mummy Returns. I just couldn't laugh at those rediculous ancient egypt scenes. It was beyond the definition of "bad" I think.

Dont bother thinking about the Mummy Returns. Were gonna watch PDL this Friday!!! :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
I didn't even watch The Mummy Returns.....the first one made me go "FUCK-DAMN" (quote: Phil Marlowe)
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: phil marlowe on March 04, 2003, 03:28:17 PM
Quote from: Sigur RósWere gonna watch PDL this Friday!!!

Fuck-Damn Yeah!!!
Title: "Worst Film of 2002"
Post by: filmcritic on June 10, 2003, 04:14:52 PM
Many of you are being too hard on "Death to Smoochy". Sure, it's stupid and silly but it's suppose to be. This is coming from Danny DeVito who is a terrific filmmaker and he's delivered a dark but colorful funny comedy with a great cast. I also realize that Roger Ebert said it was the worst film of the year. Ebert is the best critic we have but I feel that he missed something here. If you're telling me that "Death to Smoochy" is the worst film of the year, then comedy may never be what it should.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 10, 2003, 04:19:28 PM
memo to film critic, there is a reason that name was available, because its kinda a cheesy name
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: modage on June 10, 2003, 04:21:47 PM
memo to SantaClauseWasABlackMan, as soon as you're done with that ODB picture, its MINE!
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 10, 2003, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: themodernage02memo to SantaClauseWasABlackMan, as soon as you're done with that ODB picture, its MINE!

ju got it mang !
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2003, 12:49:30 PM
Worst movie of 2002? The Hours, without a doubt. It's like the Lifetime channel, except that channel's lesbian undertones are a bit more subtle. Yuck.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: bonanzataz on June 16, 2003, 03:38:49 PM
I don't completely agree with you on that (there were TONS of worse movies out last year), but this quote...

Quote from: Steve"if i really bought all that crack, where are the receipts?" - Whitney Houston


Rock on. I love that quote and I love how she really did say that.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: budgie on June 16, 2003, 04:10:20 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: budgieOf the ones I've seen, but shit now can't even remember if it was 2002: About A Boy. Oh yeah, it was. Wasn't it?

What was so bad about it? I just rented it from blockbuster and I enjoyed it. It became a bit sappy towards the end, but other than that I thought it was a fine movie. Not the best of the year, but certainly not the worst of 2002...

The only interesting thing was Hugh Grant's downbeat turn, but otherwise the characters were crushingly cliched, the kid was sickening, the script was nothing special and the cinematography was clumsy. I'm sorry, but whenever we see British movies such as this one we imagine the screen shrinking down to tv proportions and the chairs widening out to comfy archchair size and a gran bringing in a nice cup of tea. Boo, boo and boo.
Totally unfunny, apart from the guitar playing in the school.

But wait, now I reconsider, there's Birthday Girl, which had two dire leads and a worse everything else, with only Matthieu Kassovitz and Vincent thing to recommend it.

And Attack of the Clones. And Confessions of a Dangerous Mind.

I will defend The Good Girl to the death. And personally I do think Holden is supposed to be more than just someone who thinks he's Holden Caulfield. I mean, Holden Caulfield isn't the genius he wants to be either, and it seemed natural and inevitable in The Good Girl that Holden should die (thus making Justine less guilty, if she is) because really he couldn't exist in the world to which the others belonged. He was, to himself, and to Justine, a fictional, romantic hero. It isn't that ordinary to actually go as far as shooting yourself. He didn't really exist except as a dream, but the beauty is that he almost did. The ending of the film is great because it slips the dream into Justine's reality.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Derek on June 16, 2003, 04:35:36 PM
My brain hurts.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 05:39:51 PM
the time machine
scooby doo
the santa clause 2
24 hour party people
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Alethia on June 16, 2003, 10:35:32 PM
mr. deeds
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: yarnboy on July 21, 2003, 06:31:38 PM
I really feel like not enough people saw Swimfan. This was of course another "girlfriend made me" movie..But really my god..This was seriously one of the single most horrible movies I've seen in my whole life. It looked like some one learned what a movie was..then they got $50m, made a movie, someone then showed them a picture of an Avid, pointed to the power button, then left the room. Four days later, they released it.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on September 26, 2003, 10:57:12 AM
O.K. Almost nobody agrees with me but I have to say the worst movie of 2002 is CHICAGO. I know a lot of people loved it, I know it won the oscar (which pissed me off even more than when Forrest Gump won backin 94) and so on and so on... But the thing is I really like Bob Fosse. And I was a little scared when I saw the casting, given that I hated every lead actor in there (except for John C. Reilly of course...). And the trailer looked a little ugly (yes, I do think the cinematography in this movie sucks). But there was some hope : Screenplay by Bill Condon. And boy was I disapointed. When the credits rolled and people started to applause, I was just plain angry. So just tell me this : Am I alone ?
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: MacGuffin on September 26, 2003, 11:00:12 AM
Quote from: Vivian DarkbloomSo just tell me this : Am I alone ?

Not really:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=110
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: ©brad on September 26, 2003, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: Vivian DarkbloomO.K. Almost nobody agrees with me but I have to say the worst movie of 2002 is CHICAGO. I know a lot of people loved it, I know it won the oscar (which pissed me off even more than when Forrest Gump won backin 94) and so on and so on... But the thing is I really like Bob Fosse. And I was a little scared when I saw the casting, given that I hated every lead actor in there (except for John C. Reilly of course...). And the trailer looked a little ugly (yes, I do think the cinematography in this movie sucks). But there was some hope : Screenplay by Bill Condon. And boy was I disapointed. When the credits rolled and people started to applause, I was just plain angry. So just tell me this : Am I alone ?

chicago was great, as was the cinematography. come on now, u don't have to hate everything.
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Pas on September 26, 2003, 03:34:39 PM
There's a fuckin difference between a "movie you don't like" and "the worst movie of the year" ... The Good Girl, About a Boy, Chicago... come on
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: ProgWRX on September 26, 2003, 07:58:40 PM
indeed...

About a Boy is a seriously good movie (in its genre). Its hard to beleive it was directed by the folks who did American Pie...
Title: Worst Films of 2002
Post by: Alethia on September 26, 2003, 11:03:41 PM
i loved chicago and i applauded after it because that movie fuckin deserved an applause.