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Creative Corner => Filmmakers' Workshop => Topic started by: kotte on November 23, 2003, 05:24:54 PM

Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on November 23, 2003, 05:24:54 PM
What's the best program if you want to do animation?

I don't mean programs like 3D Studio Max but more like Flash...with the possibility of making .avi, .mpeg or .mov files.
Title: Animation
Post by: Ghostboy on November 23, 2003, 05:33:16 PM
It's not really my field, but a friend of mine uses a mixture of Flash and Director (often after the images and image sequences have been created in Photoshop).

I've started using Flash myself lately, and it seems like there are a lot of possibilities right there.
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on November 23, 2003, 05:34:39 PM
Just noticed you can make .avi and .mov files in Flash.
Title: Animation
Post by: zerocool41 on November 30, 2003, 09:26:17 PM
what do the south park guys use?  could you make south park on flash?
Title: Animation
Post by: BonBon85 on November 30, 2003, 09:42:31 PM
You could make South Park pretty easily on flash but I saw a special where they said that they actually use a really sophisticated 3d program. They said it was the same software people used on Jurassic Park (Maya maybe?).
Title: Animation
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 30, 2003, 10:18:24 PM
Maya is pretty much the industry standard.  or was.  all sorts of new shit is popping up.  but even this last year i think the academy gave Maya an award for it's technical involvement within reguards to film....

speaking of animation...i love pluggin' www.rustboy.com , cause i think it's just that fuckin' cool.
Title: Animation
Post by: Xixax on November 30, 2003, 11:38:52 PM
The South Park guys use Alias Wavefront stuff. Maya, and some of their other suite of tools.

Pretty funny when you consider how low-tech the show looks. I've read interviews about how they've all had to "dumb down" their work to keep it with that cheesy look.
Title: Animation
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 01, 2003, 11:01:21 AM
There are lots of cartoons that are currently on the air that use Flash as their animation tool... has anyone ever seen Home Movies on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim?  That's done in Flash.
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on December 01, 2003, 02:43:43 PM
I think The gorillaz (or whatever their name is) used flash for their Clint Eastwood video. that was a cool fucking video.
Title: Animation
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 01, 2003, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: kotteI think The gorillaz (or whatever their name is) used flash for their Clint Eastwood video. that was a cool fucking video.

Yeah, I think so too... I read that online somewhere... I think that Flash skills are worth having in animation, regardless of what you do... if you work on some other program, the company could go out of business and you're left with skills for an unsupported program... with Flash, you pretty much know its gonna be there in the future since its developer has been around for a while and they make other programs as well... and Flash can do a whole lot more than animation too...
Title: Animation
Post by: aclockworkjj on December 01, 2003, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: kotteThe gorillaz Clint Eastwood video
Here (http://www.hieroglyphics.com/features/video_vault/mpeg/gorillaz_clint_eastwood.mpg) is the video for those interested in it....great tune by the way.
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on December 01, 2003, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
Quote from: kotteThe gorillaz Clint Eastwood video
Here (http://www.hieroglyphics.com/features/video_vault/mpeg/gorillaz_clint_eastwood.mpg) is the video for those interested in it....great tune by the way.

Thanks! I was actually looking for it right now...praise the clock.
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on December 01, 2003, 05:18:45 PM
I read somewhere that Steven Spielberg wants to make a movie based on the Gorillaz...now that's a crazy idea.
Title: Animation
Post by: zerocool41 on December 02, 2003, 07:53:44 PM
Anyone know a good book to help you learn to draw cartoons...i'm assuming cartooning is an art that can be learned.  :)
Title: Animation
Post by: BonBon85 on December 02, 2003, 09:04:34 PM
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Title: Animation
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 03, 2003, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: zerocool41i'm assuming cartooning is an art that can be learned.  :)

I think you're supposed to have some inborn talent as well...
Title: Animation
Post by: zerocool41 on December 28, 2003, 06:23:44 PM
ok...maya costs 7k, flash costs 400.....can i make something similar to southpark with flash?  I'm guessing maya is for pixar types of animation mainly and that's why the high cost...anyone know?
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on December 28, 2003, 06:32:13 PM
you can do "southpark" with flash. Maya is used cause it's an industry standard and it's faster.
Title: Animation
Post by: zerocool41 on December 28, 2003, 08:42:26 PM
so...what can't i do with flash?  

as far as an animated film is concerned, what are my limitations in this program that this 7thousand dollar maya program allows me to do..
Title: Animation
Post by: kotte on December 29, 2003, 05:09:34 AM
flash doesn't really let you do 3d if you know what I mean. Maya is one of the most powerful 3d animation application out there.
Can't name any but several if not most of the animated festures are done with maya.
Title: Animation
Post by: Redlum on December 29, 2003, 05:31:16 AM
3d Studio Max - Lost in Space
Maya - Stuart Little
Title: Animation
Post by: zerocool41 on December 29, 2003, 08:03:39 AM
flash - family guy?
Title: Animation
Post by: Pubrick on December 29, 2003, 10:47:03 AM
flash - LotR
Title: Animation
Post by: Link on December 29, 2003, 05:23:20 PM
I just started trying to make a short animated movie on Flash.  I'm digging the program (though due to time restraints [I'm trying to finish the movie by the 31st and I started the other day], the movie's short and kinda sucks).  But it's fun to mess with and I've got a lot of props for animators now.
Title: Animation
Post by: booji_boy on January 01, 2004, 02:52:53 PM
It's much better to export te .swf from flash, and convert it into a video file with a program made to do so. For some reason , macromedia gave the program a very bad exporter, which ignores any alphas, or movie clips, etc. Flashants has a great program, that can put flash into nearly any video format, and still maintain the original animation's properties. A popular animation style right now is cell shading, where a 3d object is coloured to look like a 2d cartoon. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but there are lots.
Title: Animation
Post by: Link on January 04, 2004, 10:25:04 PM
Legen of Zelda: Windwaker and Jet Grind Radio are examples of that, for those who play the video games.
Title: Animation
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 02, 2004, 06:22:53 PM
If Sphinx had a Mac, he would use iDraw (http://www.macpoweruser.com/idraw/).

It's really a beautiful thing, and I just realized it exists.