Gregg, you around here somewhere? I sent ya the Dutch VHS cover of HARD EIGHT years ago for your, then, up and coming PTA website.
I see you managed to make it something huge!
huh?
Quote from: Mr. BrownGregg, you around here somewhere?
http://xixax.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=117
here I am. The site grew beyond my wildest expectations. hard to keep it up. Anyone want to take it off my hands :)
depooter...you're really doing a great job with the site.
Quote from: depooterAnyone want to take it off my hands :)
more than willing to help if you are/get swamped.
Quote from: aclockworkjjQuote from: depooterAnyone want to take it off my hands :)
more than willing to help if you are get swamped.
I think there are several
serious people here who would love to help you out. Myself included.
Quote from: depooterhere I am. The site grew beyond my wildest expectations. hard to keep it up. Anyone want to take it off my hands :)
i nominate macguffin
Quote from: kotteQuote from: aclockworkjjQuote from: depooterAnyone want to take it off my hands :)
more than willing to help if you are get swamped.
I think there are several serious people here who would love to help you out. Myself included.
dunno if you're joking...but um. i think Jj would do it actually.
MacG and JJ......Hmmmmm it does have a ring to it..... :)
I could help, I've built and maintained websites before (I interned at NASA for a summer maintaining one of their websites). Thing is, I don't know if I have the time. I could only be someone who could pitch in.
i don't think he was serious.
Quote from: Pedro el Fascolomis. i think Jj would do it actually.
what?...I would.
..starting with a brand new re-design complete w/ a flash navigational interface, maybe aome drop down menus...few hotspot picture links...none of that jsp shit tho, as it's beyond me. Cigarette's and Coffee galore...takin' over the cyberworld. Haha, just kiddin' I enjoy the site just the way it is.
I don't necessarily enjoy the desgin shit, but I know it.
I have been offerin' greg help for the last three years or so, but one of you other nerds has always gotten there first.
ps. anyone remember the old inro. on the site?
flash isnt good for informative sites like C&C, keep is plain, simple and open, like macs
Quote from: Duck Sauceflash isnt good for informative sites like C&C, keep is plain, simple and open, like macs
...you can mix flash and html.
Quote from: aclockworkjjQuote from: Duck Sauceflash isnt good for informative sites like C&C, keep is plain, simple and open, like macs
...you can mix flash and html.
But just because you can doesn't mean you should. Personally, I hate when sites use Flash. It's so incredibly annoying.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuote from: aclockworkjjQuote from: Duck Sauceflash isnt good for informative sites like C&C, keep is plain, simple and open, like macs
...you can mix flash and html.
But just because you can doesn't mean you should. Personally, I hate when sites use Flash. It's so incredibly annoying.
For a site like the one discussed, flash is best not used b/c it's a site that is based on repeat visits.
sorry, but you guys don't know what you are talking about...I agree that flash load times and all flash sites piss me off. But I would bet you have visited some flash/html sites and not even realized it's a flash interface you are using.
It depends on the designer...some over do the shit outta flash, some know exactly where to use it and it works...even for an "informative site".
kinda like the steadicam...haha.
Quote from: aclockworkjjkinda like the steadicam...haha.
EXACTLY like the steady... :)
Quote from: aclockworkjjsorry, but you guys don't know what you are talking about...I agree that flash load times and all flash sites piss me off. But I would bet you have visited some flash/html sites and not even realized it's a flash interface you are using.
It depends on the designer...some over do the shit outta flash, some know exactly where to use it and it works...even for an "informative site".
kinda like the steadicam...haha.
Heh, sorry, but I do know what I'm talking about. I worked as an Internet programmer for about four or five years, and worked on a book on XHTML as a technical reviewer. Flash isn't accessible (http://www.w3.org/WAI/) (meaning, you can't use a keyboard or other accessibility device to access its content most of the time), it's slow loading, and it's invasive. Not to mention it's a nuisance on par with MARQUEE tags, BLINK tags (remember those things?), animated gifs, and music that automatically plays when you load a page.
And Paul Thomas Anderson makes good movies.
sorry, I guess I was assuming people have heard of this modern day invention called a mouse!
we can swamp big dick resume bullet points if you want, but my point is: flash can be effective if done correctly and not worn out to dealth. It's not a coincidence that Macromedia happens to be taking over the cyberworld. I am also looking at it from a purely design side, not a programming side. As I don't know shit about programming. So chill out and realize my tone was poking fun of more than literally saying "you don't know what you are talking about, you big dumb fucko!!"
christ, I was joking about re-designin' C&C to begin with.
Quote from: aclockworkjjsorry, I guess I was assuming people have heard of this modern day invention called a mouse!
Sorry, but when you come across saying other people don't know what you're talking about, you tend to put people on the defensive. I was trying not to be, but you can't really tell a person's tone too well through text.
Quotewe can swamp big dick resume bullet points if you want, but my point is: flash can be effective if done correctly and not worn out to dealth.
That was hardly my point. My opinion is simply that it's never effective in conveying content, because content is mostly textual. And the reason Flash fails in doing that is it's graphic in nature. It's perfectly fine for animations and stuff, but it has a hard time doing text stuff because of its lack of, well, malleability, for lack of a better word.
And Paul Thomas Anderson still makes good movies.
This could be the nerd-liest pissing contest I've seen in a while :wink:
Flash websites can be effective, as JJ so eloquently stated. There's nothing "invasive" or bothersome about a site which has some visual flare added to it; granted, there are some sites which overdo the living shit out of the features Macromedia provides, but for there are also many sites out there that stick in your head lonnnnng after you leave them, and what's so bad about that?
P.S. I'm designing my site in Flash btw
And Paul Thomas Anderson makes good movies.
rip-off!!!
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaMy opinion is simply that it's never effective in conveying content, because content is mostly textual. And the reason Flash fails in doing that is it's graphic in nature.
..that why I said you can mix the 2 elements together (flash and basic html). I don't like reading text in flash either...thus I am agreeing. You can have flash running in the background (so to speak) and still present informative text that you all are used to seeing in a plain text email (persay)...here (http://www.pacsun.com/culture/lifestyle/interviews/index.html) is an example...I have to look at that garbage all day long, makes me wanna puke.
Quote from: Weak2ndActThis could be the nerd-liest pissing contest I've seen in a while :wink:
haha, i know, we are nerds (http://www.weaksabigcigarettesmokingfuckotoo.com)
Please, keep it simple for us Luddites. I'm still using the same browser I've used since 1998. I don't want to upgrade every six months. I'm still using the same version of AOL since I first bought my computer in 1997.
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you are already fuct...no matter what happens...hehe.
insert>timeline>create motion tween
Quote from: Weak2ndActThis could be the nerd-liest pissing contest I've seen in a while
HAHAHAHAHA HEE HEE
come on...someone here has to remember the flash intro on the C&C site....???
ps.
Quote from: Onomatopoeiayou can't really tell a person's tone too well through text.
u are right...a lot gets lost appleton.
Quote from: aclockworkjjcome on...someone here has to remember the flash intro on the C&C site....???
yeah and how it was taken down because apart from the initial novelty of clementine's loop, it really wasn't necessary.
Quote from: Pit really wasn't necessary.
the opt out is a great thing....click a simple SKIP button if you have already seen the inro. Nevermind...
:::sends out a bunch of plain text emails to all of you:::
I give up...but I still think flash is a powerful program if used right.
just for you.....
the original
http://www.ptanderson.com/flash/pta.html
a failed attempt at a new one..
http://www.ptanderson.com/flash/ptanderson.exe
Quote from: depooterjust for you.....
awww, a small tear down the cheek.
yeah, I dunno if I like the 2nd attempt (a little too critical acclaimy). I would offer a stab at it, but obviously these folks can't handle the mutli-media idea... :wink:
ps. keep up the good work.
ghosts commissioned to make the intro
commissioned to make the dvd
where is the dvd?
as holy matrimony draws to a close and christmas comes a shiny new gift under the tree appears....hopefully yeah yes
flash
in the pan
perhaps
hope u all had a marvel lush
tanks giving
bush style
george dubya and otherwise
1 2 3 4 h t t t eef
im back im back im back
im gone
Quote from: Gsus4 (maverick)flash
in the pan
perhaps
ooo ooo animation, creation.
sounds yummy,
gsus no dummy.
FLASH still rocks! More powerful than most of ya know.
ps. welcome back jack. bye sly.
Just to say to depooter THANKS! for the great site
I love flash, but I like reading sites on my cell phone when i'm out and about, and it can only handle text... I still haven't gotten it to work with xixax though...
Wouldn't that be great? A WAP version of XIXAX.
Quote from: kotteWouldn't that be great? A WAP version of XIXAX.
You're making me drool...
Ok, I just tried it on my cell phone (I was going to wait until after 9pm when I have free minutes, but I had to try it...)... I only got the top menu buttons (since they have an ALT text tag on them)... no forums though. :(