Um, just realized there was no thread dedicated to this brilliant show. Thought I'd put it in DVD Talk, 'cause that's how I watch it.
Anyway, David Chase -- great job. This is tv at its very very best. Michael Imperioli is awesome, acting and writing. Also, the Buscemi episode was a treat.
But most of all this series is just put together so well. The balance of storylines and characters and general mob stuff and humor stuff and family stuff. All top notch.
Really, brilliant is right. My HBO subscription is soley based on the sopranos season (and 6 feet under now) once these start back up, so will my HBO service.
Favorite character:
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sometimes when i watch sopranos, i find a part of me crying a little. it's that good to me.
Quote from: SoNowThenUm, just realized there was no thread dedicated to this brilliant show. Thought I'd put it in DVD Talk, 'cause that's how I watch it.
Anyway, David Chase -- great job. This is tv at its very very best. Michael Imperioli is awesome, acting and writing. Also, the Buscemi episode was a treat.
But most of all this series is just put together so well. The balance of storylines and characters and general mob stuff and humor stuff and family stuff. All top notch.
What a coincidence, this morning I was looking for a Sopranos thread and only found one here that were about both The Sopranos and 6FU.
Anyway, news at HBO.com, The Sopranos season 5 will premiere Sunday, March 7th, 2004.
Earlier this year HBO started to air every single episode in chronological order, so I've been watching all of them, they are now at season four, and so far my favourite character is Ralph Cifaretto, played amazingly well by Joe Pantoliano.
Quick question, when Dr. Melfi gets attacked and rapped in the stairwell, did this happen during the 3rd season or 4th?
chris
Quote from: ThecowgoooesmoooQuick question, when Dr. Melfi gets attacked and rapped in the stairwell, did this happen during the 3rd season or 4th?
chris
Third.
The Sopranos Return on March 7
Source: Variety
Just as Sex and the City bids farewell February 22, the fifth season of The Sopranos will kick off March 7 with the first of 13 new episodes, says Variety.
Fans of HBO's signature drama series are certainly champing at the bit in anticipation of what happens next to the New Jersey mob family. The last original episode aired December 8, 2002.
In that episode, "Whitecaps," Edie Falco's Carmela lashed out at James Gandolfini's Tony in an expletive-filled tirade after receiving a phone call from one of Tony's mistresses and proceeded to throw her husband out of the house.
The show will also return for a 10-episode season number 6, which would begin production in early 2005. It is expected that will be the last season for The Sopranos.
At which point I can go ahead and kill myself... unless they make Sopranos movies.
what do people think of this season? i think it's gonna be pretty good. i'm worried for adrianna. i don't know if she'll make it to the end of the season. i think buscemi will be dragged back into his life of crime or he will get killed (or both). wonder what'll happen to uncle junior after seeing the preview for next week's episode.
sopranos are back! I FEEL ALIVE AGAIN!
Quote from: MacGuffinIn that episode, "Whitecaps," Edie Falco's Carmela lashed out at James Gandolfini's Tony in an expletive-filled tirade after receiving a phone call from one of Tony's mistresses and proceeded to throw her husband out of the house.
That episode featured some of the best acting I've ever seen. Not to sound all "poor me" but I watched my mom go through something similar, and I tell ya, Edie Falco nailed it. The way she went from screaming to shaking and crying, was incredible. I have never seen a scene that was more authentic... for a television show that is.
Quote from: taz.what do people think of this season? i think it's gonna be pretty good. i'm worried for adrianna. i don't know if she'll make it to the end of the season.
So far I love it, about Adrianna it's hard to guess what may come for her, she's such a good character (not that that would save her), I think she either gets killed or dissapears, although she probably doesn't have the guts to leave everything and be on her own, of course you could say she has guts because she's with the feds and all but she's doing it cause she's scared to death.
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i think buscemi will be dragged back into his life of crime or he will get killed (or both).
My thoughts exactly, you could feel from the very beginning he and Tony will have some friction, and that could make Tony pull the trigger, talking about friction, it's just a matter of time when Chris and Pauly shoot each other.
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wonder what'll happen to uncle junior after seeing the preview for next week's episode.
Will he be the next to croak?
Obviously his sickness will get worse and worse, and probably that's what will kill him.
thank you SoNowThen for starting a thread on this great great show...sadly the last episode of the sopranos i saw was Whitecaps. and i dont have HBO anymore because my mom thought the shows were too sexual so she cancelled our subscription. but yeah, it's a great show, i own seasons 1, 2, 3, & 4, so i have to wait for season 5 to come out on DVD. very excited about steve buscemi.
I'm sick of waiting for the new season around here. :evil:
what season is the episode when Tony's nephew and this other guy try and bury this russian comando guy, and get lost in the woods freezing their happy sacks off?
its by far the best one out off all that i've seen.
...... :oops: ..........i have actaully never seen an episode.......
i'm a six feet under kind of guy.and NO!!, i'm not ghey.......... :nono:
Quote from: Bruce Leewhat season is the episode when Tony's nephew and this other guy try and bury this russian comando guy, and get lost in the woods freezing their happy sacks off?
its by far the best one out off all that i've seen.
3rd season, it's called "pine barrens" it's the one directed by steve buscemi.
Quote from: NEON MERCURY...... :oops: ..........i have actaully never seen an episode.......
i'm a six feet under kind of guy.and NO!!, i'm not ghey.......... :nono:
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!!!!! Since when is it gay to watch Six Feet Under? Well, I guess if I also like The Sopranos I'm not 100% gay, so I can be in peace... right?
Quote from: RoyalTenenbaumQuote from: NEON MERCURY...... :oops: ..........i have actaully never seen an episode.......
i'm a six feet under kind of guy.and NO!!, i'm not ghey.......... :nono:
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!!!!! Since when is it gay to watch Six Feet Under? Well, I guess if I also like The Sopranos I'm not 100% gay, so I can be in peace... right?
EKOJ A SAW TI
* to decode this message, turn around in your chair and hold a mirror in front of your face and look at your monitor through the mirror... :lookatthis:
i like this season a lot. they balance the drama of the family and the crime family very nicely.
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looks like i called steve buscemi's fate. that was no big surprise. what do all of you think about carmela and tony doing it in the pool?
AHH! SPOLIERS!! LABEL SPOILERS!!! NOW I KNOW HOW MAC FEELS!!
Quote from: El DuderinoAHH! SPOLIERS!! LABEL SPOILERS!!! NOW I KNOW HOW MAC FEELS!!
come on, man. it aired on sunday.
Quote from: bonanzatazQuote from: El DuderinoAHH! SPOLIERS!! LABEL SPOILERS!!! NOW I KNOW HOW MAC FEELS!!
come on, man. it aired on sunday.
i know, i know, but i didnt see it.
Spoilers (for 4th season, if you're like me and have to wait to see it on dvd)
I just finished the last episode. I think this was my favorite season. I just wanted to take a moment and worship at the altar of Edie Falco. She's consistently brilliant on this show, but peaked with this last episode. What she did with her hysteria and crying -- in a scene that could have fallen into gross cliche -- was incredible. All the frustration built up over the entire run of this show, she captured it all and let it out in that scene, without heavy melodrama, just enough. Just perfect.
So here's to Edie.
One of the best episodes last Sunday. Holy shit.
***#4 contains SPOILERS***
The Top Ten Things Never Before Said on the Sopranos
10. Dominic Chianese (Junior) "You don't have the money? That's cool"
9. Aida Turturo (Janis) "Screw this home cooking. I'm going to the Olive Garden"
8. Steven Van Zandt (Silvio) "In addition to disposing of bodies, you'll need to know how to use Powerpoint and Excel"
7. Robert Iler (AJ) Looks over at Van Zandt "Wasn't that the guy from Springsteen's E Street band?"
6. Jamie Lynn Discala (Meadow) "I just hooked up an illegal cable box and now I'm getting free HBO"
5. Tony Sirico (Paulie) "Tony, I'm gonna need to leave early today for Rosh Hashanah"
4. Drea de Mateo (Adrianna) "I want a bigger part -- what are you gonna do, kill my character?"
3. Michael Imperioli (Christopher) "Hey Paulie, how about you and me going up to Massachusetts and getting married?"
2. Edie Falco (Carmela) "I can't go to prison -- Martha Stewart will eat me alive"
1. James Gandolphini (Tony) "I just whacked myself"
Clip here (http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/dave_tv/ls_dtv_comedy_clips.shtml).
Quote from: Fernando***#4 contains SPOILERS***.
i did not know that. and i saw the top ten without thinking much of it.. the real spoiler is that warning, cos otherwise it's just a meaningless joke that could be said by anyone (that's how i took it).
oh well.
excuse me while i get sumthing out of my system.....
F****************************************CKi guess we're a couple of weeks behind.
for those of you on the west, gandolfini is on inside the actor's studio tonight. 8)
I used to watch this religiously with an ex boyfriend (he had HBO). So now, it's on Sunday nights and they are showing the season where Ralphy gets whacked. I've seen it. THis makes me so sad.
I love the Sopranos, I just want them back!!! :? :roll: :shock: :oops: :cry: :(
'Sopranos' Could Return for Seventh Season
The Sopranos creator David Chase has hinted that the show could return for a seventh season. Interviewed at a New York forum by the New Yorker's Ken Auletta, Chase indicated that, given the right offer from HBO, he might be willing to alter the storyline for the final episodes of the sixth season -- which is currently being shot -- in order to set up a seventh. "We wouldn't have to change anything important," Chase remarked. On the other hand, he added, "It's just a question of whether the story works out creatively in six seasons, which I think it will."
'Sopranos' may extend final run
The upcoming season of "The Sopranos" might well be a whopper, at least in terms of the number of episodes. Sources said series creator/executive producer David Chase is close to finalizing a pact with HBO to produce as many as 10 additional episodes for the upcoming sixth season, set to bow in March. Sources said the tentative game plan is for HBO to stretch out the mob drama's swan-song season over many months, much as it did with the final batch of "Sex and the City" episodes by running a batch of 12 from June-September 2003 and the final eight in January-February 2004. It's understood that the "Sopranos" cast and crew went into the sixth season, which recently began production on the East Coast, expecting to film at least 10 but no more than 13 episodes for Season 6. Details were sketchy late Tuesday, but sources said that Chase was close to signing on to produce at least seven more installments of the Emmy-winning series. Of course, when it comes to long-term planning for "Sopranos," the other X factor is the wishes of star James Gandolfini. It was unclear late Tuesday whether the extended-season plan would trigger new contract negotiations for Gandolfini, who set a new salary benchmark for actors toiling in the cable realm with his last contract renegotiation. Reps for HBO and Chase declined comment on the matter Wednesday.
The Sopranos to End in 2007
Source: BBC News January 16, 2006
The Sopranos creator David Chase has said the show will definitely end after the forthcoming episodes. The 12-part sixth season begins in March, followed by eight "bonus" episodes in January, 2007.
"There will be these 12 (forthcoming episodes) and then another eight, and that will be the end," Chase said.
Chase went on to cast doubt on speculation about a feature movie version of the show, which stars James Gandolfini.
"We haven't talked about it in a long time. ... It's hard to see how it would work," Chase said. "I think what we're going to be doing the next year and a half would have been that movie."
Emmy award-winning Gandolfini, who plays Tony Soprano, said he was ready to move on. "I'm too tired to be a tough guy or any of that stuff anymore. We pretty much used all that up in this show."
Quote from: Fernando on January 16, 2006, 02:57:25 PM
Chase went on to cast doubt on speculation about a feature movie version of the show,
"It's hard to see how it would work"
They're totally killing Tony off
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Quote from: Fernando on January 16, 2006, 02:57:25 PM
Chase went on to cast doubt on speculation about a feature movie version of the show,
"It's hard to see how it would work"
They're totally killing Tony off
totally.
i just caught up with all of season 5 on DVD. the last 4 episodes are brilliant, especially long term parking and alll due respect (i would calll them two of the best ever. love the van morrison song that ends all due respect! can't seem to find it online though... :saywhat:)
who's excited for sunday?!
:onfire:
Quote from: ©brad on March 10, 2006, 08:49:25 AM
who's excited for sunday?!
:onfire:
:multi: :onfire: :multi:
i havent seen it in a few seasons though i'd like to catch up, it doesnt look likely by this sunday. i do LOVE the ads they've been showing around the clock with Nine Inch Nails "The Mark Has Been Made" in them. INTENSE.
since the beginning of february, TMN [our canadian HBO] has run 2 episodes a night of the entire series so i'm totally caught up now.
the season premiere blew me away.
it was good.
what the hell was that song that opened the show? (and that played during the end credits). i think one of the the most powerful moments in the show are the ending credits w/ music (always great choices on their end).
does anyone else feel that often scenes end too abruptly?
Quote from: ©brad on March 13, 2006, 08:50:44 AM
it was good.
what the hell was that song that opened the show? (and that played during the end credits). i think one of the the most powerful moments in the show are the ending credits w/ music (always great choices on their end).
does anyone else feel that often scenes end too abruptly?
Beginning of episode voice over.
Song: Seven Souls
Artist: Material, voice-over, William S. Burroughs
The official site has a
link (http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/music/episode66.shtml) of the music in every episode. (that link is from last ep.)
So yeah, great first episode, I too think some scenes end too abruptly, anyway...
Winner of the Week: Meadow's dance in front of the tv. :inlove:
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Quote from: ©brad on March 13, 2006, 08:50:44 AM
it was good.
what the hell was that song that opened the show? (and that played during the end credits). i think one of the the most powerful moments in the show are the ending credits w/ music (always great choices on their end).
does anyone else feel that often scenes end too abruptly?
Beginning of episode voice over.
Song: Seven Souls
Artist: Material, voice-over, William S. Burroughs
The official site has a link (http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/music/episode66.shtml) of the music in every episode. (that link is from last ep.)
Thank you! For the life of me, I knew it was Burroughs but I couldn't remember the name of the group. They also did a track of Burroughs giving advice to young people. Great track.
Quote from: Fernando on March 13, 2006, 10:39:20 AM
Winner of the Week: Meadow's dance in front of the tv. :inlove:
I know she's only 3 years younger than me but she still looks underage to me. Watching that scene didn't feel right.
Quote from: Fernando on March 13, 2006, 10:39:20 AM
Winner of the Week: Meadow's dance in front of the tv. :inlove:
:) :shock: :bravo:
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ok, what the fuck is going on?! is tony gonna die this early?
Hardly. From advance reviews, it sounds like we'll get a extended dream sequence in the next ep. when he loses consciousness. I suspect it'll take a gutshot for Tony to finally wake up to the fact that Junior needs professional help. The real Q is: who's the FBI going to target next?
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EVERYONE
this one was BETTER(!) and arguably the best of the dream episodes.
edi falco carried the entire thing. she's incredible.
notice tony's voice during the dream scenes.
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I've seen the next two as well (don't ask how), and I'm very curious if it will alienate loyal fans. The dream sequence carries on through the next episode, and there seems to be a whole zen/buddhist slant being brought to the forefront of Tony's journey (his neighbors are key) that I really dig. Yeah, the plot may be hospital-focused for now, but with the big man MIA, some shit's gonna go down that's gonna affect the entire course. I personally loved the new batch, but I can so see the extended dream/hallucination/whatever frustrating the casual viewer.
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I've seen the next two as well (don't ask how)...
um, how?!?!?!?
SPOILERSQuote from: ©brad on March 19, 2006, 09:15:18 PM
this one was BETTER(!) and arguably the best of the dream episodes.
edi falco carried the entire thing. she's incredible.
notice tony's voice during the dream scenes.
Besides Tony's voice the first thing I noticed was his hair and the way he moves, Gandolfini is really giving an amazing performance here, who would have thought that you could see him on this show as an average joe?
Ditto on Falco, she is so amazing.
I like the direction the show is taking, after last week I wondered how would they play Tony's thing and it seems it'll be played the right way, meaning that Tony won't fully recover in five minutes, the best is yet to come I hope.
i don't have hbo at home anymore and i don't have a tv here, but i managed to see one from two weeks ago... the one after he gets shot.
it's like they're crossing it with six feet under.
SPOILERS?
thank god he's out of that coma. that kevin finnerty bullshit was killing me.
Quote from: bonanzataz on March 29, 2006, 01:20:14 AM
SPOILERS?
thank god he's out of that coma. that kevin finnerty bullshit was killing me.
i loved the finnerty thing. i wish they did
more of it.
i was first amazed at how apathetic the crew was w/ tony's condition, but i guess it just further substantiates the notion that these guys care about nothing but themselves.
funniest line:
phil: i don't forget. i NEVER forget.
sil: i don't forget either.
(pause)
sil: what were we talking about?
phil: i don't know, fuck i forgot.
also- christopher's slasher film will be fantastic.
OBVIOUS SPOILERSQuote from: ©brad on March 29, 2006, 08:30:42 AM
i was first amazed at how apathetic the crew was w/ tony's condition, but i guess it just further substantiates the notion that these guys care about nothing but themselves.
also- christopher's slasher film will be fantastic.
Besides that the first thing I thought was that he's surrounded by idiots who can't see beyond their nose and just can't act according to the situation, and yes also they care more about themselves than anything else but in that
bussines who wouldn't? Although when someone told them that Tony just woke up the only one not celebrating was Vito.
So 6.4 was in my opinion the best of the season so far. Who would have thought that you could turn to the Sopranos for Bergman esque morale dilemma? Past seasons have clearly dealt with the human condition, mainly the conflicts one would face with a life in la cocka nostra. But with the whole Buddhist thing with the previous episodes and now the born again Christian slant working it's way in... I, I like it alot. :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: killafilm on April 03, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
So 6.4 was in my opinion the best of the season so far. Who would have thought that you could turn to the Sopranos for Bergman esque morale dilemma? Past seasons have clearly dealt with the human condition, mainly the conflicts one would face with a life in la cocka nostra. But with the whole Buddhist thing with the previous episodes and now the born again Christian slant working it's way in... I, I like it alot. :yabbse-thumbup:
as do i.
pure lynchian moment when pauly throws the flat screen tv out the window and we see that old woman just roll by on her wheelchair.
:laughing:
really liked tonight's episode.
spoliers::::
tony kicking his bodyguard's ass just to prove that he could. loved it.
uncle june staying with the wackos. good, but i'm still waiting for AJ to put a bullet in his head..
vito getting caught and snuffing it. about time.
lookin forward to next weeks "Live Free or Die" :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: Cinephile on April 10, 2006, 01:04:57 AM
really liked tonight's episode.
spoliers::::
tony kicking his bodyguard's ass just to prove that he could. loved it.
uncle june staying with the wackos. good, but i'm still waiting for AJ to put a bullet in his head..
vito getting caught and snuffing it. about time.
lookin forward to next weeks "Live Free or Die" :yabbse-thumbup:
'twas great. this season is SO great.
spoileys
- i'm loving the affection carmela is showing tony.
- tony kicking his bodyguard's ass-- do you think this was staged? there are a couple of hints in the episode that suggest so (the moment in the car when tony stresses the need to get back in the gym and the bodyguard offers to help him). and according to my lady friends who watched it w/ me, he's "too fucking hot" to let go in one episode.
- uncle june starring at the tic-tacs was probably the funniest moment of the last two seasons.
- vino getting caught-- the weakest moment of the episode. so predictable.
- throw-up scene- great. and that wicked smile...
Quote from: ©brad on April 10, 2006, 11:01:37 PM
spoileys
- tony kicking his bodyguard's ass-- do you think this was staged? there are a couple of hints in the episode that suggest so (the moment in the car when tony stresses the need to get back in the gym and the bodyguard offers to help him). and according to my lady friends who watched it w/ me, he's "too fucking hot" to let go in one episode.
i dont think it was staged. i think it was an independence thing on tony's part. he wants to do things himself and i think he found it pathetic to have a buff bodyguard like him whip him into shape. you could see at the end of the episode, studying the physiques in the room.. contemplating what he should do with himself. and it was as if he had a realization that he can be himself cause thats tougher than the fat asses and then he proved pretty quickly that it was tougher than the chisled bodyguards too. and that evil grin in the mirror at the end.. he realized hes indestructible. :shock:
Indeed good. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't let down after last weeks episode. Plus Buscemi directed, and some of his directing efforts have been my favorite episodes, ie Pine Barrens.
"Any chance of a sympathy fuck" was my favorite part.
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i love this fucking show.
i think its assumed everything is spoilers in here ..
so vito is still alive.. hope hes dead soon since hes been such an asshole.
funniest line from this past show.. tony sincerely describing vito as a 'come-from-behind kinda guy'.
Quote from: Cinephile on April 18, 2006, 08:56:36 PM
i think its assumed everything is spoilers in here ..
so vito is still alive.. hope hes dead soon since hes been such an asshole.
He is, but I'm glad he's alive, I really like how the writers are handling vito's situation.
What I love the most this season is that so far hasn't been too predictable, well Vito getting caught yes but I honestly don't know what's gonna happen to him, will Pauly or one of the other guys wack him, will Tony save him? This season is awesome. :yabbse-smiley:
How come no one knows or suspects that Jr. has Alzheimers and that is why he shot Tony? They're like 'I don't wanna hear anything about him' attitude so it's almost impossible they even give some thought to that situation.
"Could it be a midlife thing?"
"Sucking a cock?"
Quote from: Fernando on April 19, 2006, 10:20:33 AMHow come no one knows or suspects that Jr. has Alzheimers and that is why he shot Tony? They're like 'I don't wanna hear anything about him' attitude so it's almost impossible they even give some thought to that situation.
didn't tony mention that this wasn't the first time his uncle had tried to kill him?
Quote from: ©brad on April 19, 2006, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Fernando on April 19, 2006, 10:20:33 AMHow come no one knows or suspects that Jr. has Alzheimers and that is why he shot Tony? They're like 'I don't wanna hear anything about him' attitude so it's almost impossible they even give some thought to that situation.
didn't tony mention that this wasn't the first time his uncle had tried to kill him?
Yep, he did along with Tony's mother in the first or second season can't remember now, but they made peace and this time he didn't actually wanted to kill him, so for me it's a totally different matter but they don't see it like that or don't want to. I guess because of that first attempt they are right but still I keep wondering why no one sees Jr.'s sickness angle as why he did what he did.
each episode of this season gets better and better.
okay so the last two episodes were great. i'm loving the photography and music this season. the whole style is much more cinematic.
christopher's marriage sure came out of no where. where did this broad come from? last week's episode had christopher doing lines w/ a stripper in LA.
i didn't dig this week's episode so much. some of the shots felt kind of awkward to me; the narrative focus of the episode seemed like it could have been a minor conflict while something more interesting had the main focus.
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christopher's relapse = suck. where the hell was AJ this episode? no vito? and what was up with the second time they mocked the bikers? i wasn't blown away by this episode.
the subtle rack/pull when Tony and Chris were having their nightcap was nice-- but i don't see how it's getting more "cinematic"
Quote from: ©brad on May 08, 2006, 02:45:17 PM
christopher's marriage sure came out of no where. where did this broad come from? last week's episode had christopher doing lines w/ a stripper in LA.
Yep, that was sudden, it wasn't long ago when Tony said to Chris 'how many times are you going to play the Adriana card?', as for the stripper, well all those guys have a
goomar even Vito. :yabbse-shocked:
Quote from: Fomaphone on May 09, 2006, 12:33:09 PM
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and what was up with the second time they mocked the bikers?
Yeah, that scene was a waste, I thought that at some point Chris was going to ask Tony for $omething or something...
Anyway, only three more eps. left, they should be the best of this season.
Quote from: Fomaphone on May 09, 2006, 12:33:09 PMchristopher's relapse = suck. where the hell was AJ this episode? no vito? and what was up with the second time they mocked the bikers? i wasn't blown away by this episode.
that's my one beef about the show. the narrative jumps all over the place. in the episode before last, AJ was the focus, and it ends w/ him coked up on the bathroom floor of a club. last week, we hardly see AJ at all. there's no payoff. it's pauly show now. and vito has been MIA for two episodes now.
Quote from: Fernando on May 09, 2006, 01:09:10 PMAnyway, only three more eps. left, they should be the best of this season.
actually no. there are 12 episodes in this season. last week's episode was #7. in addition, we're getting an 8-episode bonus to air in January 2007, which will end the show.
Quote from: ©brad on May 10, 2006, 08:40:10 AM
Quote from: Fernando on May 09, 2006, 01:09:10 PMAnyway, only three more eps. left, they should be the best of this season.
actually no. there are 12 episodes in this season. last week's episode was #7. in addition, we're getting an 8-episode bonus to air in January 2007, which will end the show.
:saywhat:
From the HBO site, these are the episodes that have been aired:
( 1 ) 66 Members Only
( 2 ) 67 Join the Club
( 3 ) 68 Mayham
( 4 ) 69 The Fleshy Part of the Thigh
( 5 ) 70 Mr. & Mrs. John Sacrimoni Request
( 6 ) 71 Live Free or Die
( 7 ) 72 Luxury Lounge
( 8 ) 73 Johnny Cakes
( 9 ) 74 The Ride
So, there's only three more left from these 12 batch, and as you said 8 more next year.
well, that shut me up.
thats crazy, i thought i'd seen less than 9 too. somehow i will support cbrad on this.. :ponder:
This Q&A is taken from an Interview at AICN, some guy interviewed Director Danny Leiner who did this season's Luxury Louge; I only pasted the sopranos related part.
MJ: I've gotta ask you about The Sopranos because I don't have cable at the dorm, so my mom sends me the tapes in the mail a week late and literally, my jaw dropped when Bacall took that hit in the face. I couldn't believe it.
DL: I've heard that from a number of people who were just shocked. First of all, it was a hell of a ride for me. It was my first Sopranos and I get my first script and it has Sir Ben Kingsley and Lauren Bacall. It has Artie Bucco beating up... I mean, there were a lot of events in the script, particularly for this season, which has kind of been a little muted on the violence and more of a character study even though this one had Rusty gets hit on the show. But other than that there was nothing of big, overall kind of importance, but it was a huge Sopranos. Just going to LA was hilarious because even though I shot most of it here, but it was fun to go to LA. And Lauren Bacall was awesome.
MJ: How did they get those two because I just did a one-on-one with Sir Ben last month and he held out on me. I can't believe he didn't tell me!
DL: Well he was pretty hush-hush. I mean working on The Sopranos you have to sign your life away and it's cool. I heard Joe who plays Vito talking about his story arc and he was just saying, "If you're a real Sopranos fan, do you really want to know what's gonna happen?" I mean, it's way better to find out. That's one of the greatest things about The Sopranos and why I think people were affected in a fun way by Lauren Bacall getting punched. You don't know from scene to scene or episode to episode what the hell is gonna happen on that show.
You just have no clue, you can't follow it. There's no way to predict unless someone told you and I think that's one of the greatest aspects of that show is that you just don't know where it's going. But back to that episode, and particularly Lauren Bacall, it was a blast, it was intense. We were in LA for five days and Lauren came out and was hilarious. I think she had a blast. She loved cursing and she's just so cool. We had to do a number of takes and we had stunts and sound problems and just a lot of stuff going on that night because we were shooting outside of the Beverly Hills Hilton. She was just a trooper. I had a blast with her.
MJ: What's the atmosphere on set like coming in as an outsider?
DL: Um, it's intense. I mean, I had the advantage of having worked with Edie Falco. Edie and I went to school together and I did a five minute short my first real film out of school and she was in it. I did a half-hour short with John Leguizamo, she was in it. I did my first feature starring her and Jeremy Piven, it was like a credit card feature, and she was in it. So that gave me a lot of street cred coming in. It was hard but it was cool. It's such a well-oiled machine and you're working with some amazing actors like Gandolfini and Imperioli and of course, Edie. You know, what can you say? So it's a little intimidating because they've been working on their characters and certainly know them better than me. But like any actor who I think is good, they're always looking to refine and they always want to work and collaborate. So all of those people do in their own way. It was a treat for me to work with them.
MJ: This being the last season, are things really serious on set? Is it all business or are people joking around, having fun, keeping it light?
DL: Honestly, it's more about the endurance test. Those seasons are really hard and The Sopranos in an amazing way, are completely obsessed, from David Chase down to the PA, to the assistant camera, to the DD, to the gaffer, everyone wants to make the show really great. So that takes a lot of wear and tear, I think, mentally. You know you're making movies, that's how each show is. You're making these long, eight-month extended movies. It's not a conscious thing but there is a little bit of "hey, you know the end is coming." But day to day, it's just about doing good work and trying to maintain the stamina to do good work. And everyone's crazy there because I'm crazy and most of the people who I've worked with there are all nuts so we all just get along good.
MJ: Any comment on how the show is getting more political with Vito's story and the discussion about terrorists?
DL: Hey, I don't know where it's going and what I do know I'm not going to tell you but I personally believe that the back eight, the mini-season coming up [in 2007], I think that back eight is gonna be, I'm gonna say the word, "brutal." That's my guess. I don't want David to get mad at me. But I just think it's gonna be brutal. I don't see how it could be anything but. I think this whole season is a big prelude to the last eight episodes.
That thing he said really puts me :onfire:
So, did anyone actually see/like last episode? And by anyone I mean cbrad, cine and foma.
So Vito is dead as was expected, it was just a matter of how brutal would be and who would do it; fucking Phil Leotardo, that guy's the most ruthless mother fucker of all, although I wonder if as his crew beat to dead Vito and we see Leotardo moving his fingers was because of remorse or something else. Then that crew guy comes and starts breaking Sil and the other guy's balls, guy got what he deserved.
Many great moments in this ep., maybe my fave of all, at least till I see the last one.
So unless cbrad or cine prove me wrong...just one ep. left! :yabbse-grin:
Should be brutal, can't wait.
yeah i think this was my favourite so far too. i fuckin' hated vito. got what he deserved too.
this sunday is gonna be amazing.
Quote from: Cinephile on May 24, 2006, 01:30:47 PMi fuckin' hated vito. got what he deserved too.
got what he deserved why? i mean, i don't like vito either really, but i did grow a little bit of sympathy for him this season.
was a good episode indeed. although i hope the show doesn't revert back to territory it's already covered ad nauseam (tony getting bj's from random tricks, christopher on smack again, AJ being a punk ass).
vito was always the asshole picking on finn (didnt help that finn caught him blowing somebody in a truck).. waddled around like an idiot (i wonder why).. god, the guy was such a fuckin loser. it was like he made so much dough, he could afford to be whatever he wanted to be and didnt care to help anyone else or let anyone else know anything. before this sympathy season, he was the one guy that i found to be just plain scum.. and no matter what, i wanted that asshole dead. he got what he had coming to him for being such a bastard in the past.
so, the finale was okay. liked tony's talk to phil in the hospital. there were some damn funny lines, especially:
Phil: As coincidence would have it, Fat Dom was last seen in New Jersey.
Tony: So was the Hindenberg. Maybe you want to look into that too.
the uncle junior scene was hysterical as well.
but the episode as a whole seemed sloppy and lazy. so many quick cuts and scenes that ended too abruptly. and the whole christopher/jullianna relapsing storyline i really could care less about (been there done that).
on a sidenote, i'm inclined to think that one of these new broads (christopher's wife, aj's chica nueva) is another fed.
Quote from: ©brad on June 05, 2006, 01:16:52 PM
so, the finale was okay. liked tony's talk to phil in the hospital. there were some damn funny lines, especially:
Phil: As coincidence would have it, Fat Dom was last seen in New Jersey.
Tony: So was the Hindenberg. Maybe you want to look into that too.
the uncle junior scene was hysterical as well.
Boy were they hilarious! Another was at the end when Tony says something about the ice to Christopher, can't remember exactly what he said. :doh:
I agree about that talk in the hospital, that and the fed giving tony that tip about the brooklyn guys.
I thought they were going to end it with some shocking thing, but still it was good, sloppy at times as you say but good.
Quote from: ©brad on June 05, 2006, 01:16:52 PM
on a sidenote, i'm inclined to think that one of these new broads (christopher's wife, aj's chica nueva) is another fed.
:ponder:
Edit: I'm done pondering, my thoughts on this.
Chris wife. Let alone that the girl slept with this guy, she even is having a baby and just married this prick, so she can't be a fed.
AJ's girl. Isn't she too young to be a fed? Also, she right away slept with the boss son and has kid, who would risk her kid? So even though this isn't as unlikey as Chris' wife, I don't think she's a fed.
Now, will they in the future be working with the feds just like Ade? Maybe.
OT comments but i wont start a topic about it...So, did any of you watch BIG LOVE?I saw every episode and I think the series has great potential, while it began a little slow I think almost all episodes were worth watching, I hope they greenlight a second season, it's a good replacement of 6FU and with many familiar faces and great acting.
And obviously this did end with a cliffhanger, I think some ppl here would really like this one so steal it if bored.
Quote from: ©brad on June 05, 2006, 01:16:52 PM
so, the finale was okay. liked tony's talk to phil in the hospital.
yeah, i loved the season coming full circle. good stuff. can't wait for everyone to die in 2007's final eight.
The final season of The Sopranos (i.e., eight episodes) has been bumped from January to early March '07 because of a knee operation that James Gandolfini will have sometime soon. The surgery alone would have delayed the season only three or four weeks "but that would have put The Sopranos up against the football playoffs and the Super Bowl," according to HBO honcho Chris Albrecht. The knee procedure is necessary because Gandolfini was recently knocked off his scooter in Manhattan collision with a taxi.
"I know you're all hoping that [more than one or two Sopranos characters will] die," Albrecht told the Television Critics Association in Pasadena on Wednesday, but he gave assurances that viewers won't be disappointed in this regard. "I know the story lines for the final eight, and I am absolutely positively certain that when the curtain comes down on [the final Sopranos], the vast, vast, vast majority of people will say it's one of the great things of all time."
I just got ALL the seasons on DVD and I'm watching this great show from the start.
I did watch some episodes along the way, but never really followed the story and the characters properly. The good news is that, I almost dont remember much of what I saw, so its like watching everything for the first time.
I'm already in Season 2 and I love it. Hope I finish watching all the seasons by the time the final one starts in April.
Just finished watching the last episode... very sad cause I fucking watched 8 years of a show in 3 months, but it was worth every second of my late nights. I cant wait until the premiere of the next episodes in a week!!
Easy one of the best shows of all time... and its interesting how awesome the continuity is and how everything makes sense throught out the 6 seasons. Even watching it all together you dont see any holes, and you see the evolution of the characters which is better probably than any show i can think of right now (for sure much better than 24 for example).
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Is anyone watching?
Wtf is with Tony going crazy? Even in his not so even temper I always thought he was a guy who thought before doing something dumb, now he makes huge gambles, wanted to kill Pauly, hates tesh, distrusts Christopher and so on.
Some wtf moments:
- A darky Vito Jr. shitting in the showers.
- Tony and Bobby's fight, although who didn't see that coming seeing how drunk they were.
- Hilarious how Geraldo, Sidney Pollack, Daniel Baldwin and Christopher McDonald were all in the same episode.
My guess now is either Phill will rain a shitstorm in jersey or the feds finally get T (maybe both).
i thought they had fucking left the vito thing alone but there they go and make another episode out of it. embarassing . the rest of the season is okay. i wanna see more a.j. in this season. that breakup scene with Blanca was beautiful.
tonight kicked ass. yes i would agree, despite many nice moments the first few episodes of this season were kind of meh, but tonight we got back on track. and terrence winter as writer and director? nice.
i was pissed on how little we were getting from christopher... so im very happy about tonight. everybody got some action, except leotardo who i fucking hate so it was great.
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody seen tonights episode?????
wow
totally speechless. i'll think about it some more, but i've gotta say that was one of the most haunting episodes of television i've seen. (cue haters, but you can't deny you didn't see that coming)
i mean, it was fantastic, i love this season to death, and i kinda get it, but...
why?
i don't really know why tony did that. i'm sad.
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all i could think since the last season started was that it would be one or the other... i knew tony would do him or be done by him... but i didnt expect it until the final episode.
im also sad cause of how unexpected it was at the moment it happened and how it happened, but thats the best thing of the sopranos. think about ralphie's death or ritchie aprille... u would never expect it.
the whole episode was amazing with the peyote and all... im loving the season but i cant fucking believe it will be over in a few more episodes.
Quote from: kal on May 14, 2007, 12:34:53 AM
cant fucking believe it will be over in a few more episodes.
no shit...i dont know what the fuck im going to do...
like you i kinda marathoned my way thru the series, and last week was the first ep. i was able to see "live," and i was sad because it kinda left me "meh" and with a horrible gut feeling like it could all end mediocre....
but fuck, this last one... :yabbse-cry:
the rerun just came on rite now and i actually had to change the channel during that scene, i could not re-watch it...
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man last night was sooooo good. maybe one of the top 5, especially the peyote sequence. that last shot, tony screaming "i get it!" gave me chills. christopher's death was perfect. we all knew he was going to bite it, so it was great to have it happen within the first 4 minutes.
so random, but i was watching the departed at a friend's house just yesterday, and was thinking this is a movie that david chase probably loved. so i cracked up when christopher whipped out the departed soundtrack, and tony was like "yeah it's really good." and remember last week's episode, tony walks downstairs signing "comfortably numb."
i think aj is going to kill someone.
Quote from: bonanzataz on May 14, 2007, 12:27:31 AM
i mean, it was fantastic, i love this season to death, and i kinda get it, but...
why?
i don't really know why tony did that. i'm sad.
IMO it's a combination of a lot of things, one was when that Carmela told Tony the boss in Cleaver was a mirror image (according to her friend Rosalie Aprile) of him and the cheating girl was Ade, Tony thnking aout the latter thought it was Christopher's way of showing he wanted to kill him for real, then at the accident Chris telling him he isn't clean and seeing the destroyed children's car seat in the backseat with rage.
Who would have thought that Sil was the must affected of the crew? 'that fucking crazy maniac' :yabbse-cry:
Quote from: ©brad on May 14, 2007, 08:23:31 AM
i think aj is going to kill someone.
Wasn't he repulsed by the beating of the bicylcle dude? But maybe you're onto something here.
Cron is right though, aj is turning in a pretty interesting character, he used to always be numb about everything, guy finally is waking up.
Only three more eps to go... :yabbse-sad:
Quote from: Fernando on May 14, 2007, 09:56:49 AM
Wasn't he repulsed by the beating of the bicylcle dude? But maybe you're onto something here.
Cron is right though, aj is turning in a pretty interesting character, he used to always be numb about everything, guy finally is waking up.
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it seems like AJ is already going through what it took tony many more years to realize. they've already set him up with his own therapist to deal with his moral quandaries. The acid foot thing was typical gangster commeuppance, but the bicycle guy was true senseless brutality. I can't stop thinking about what tony meant at the end by "i get it", like maybe he realizes the attraction chris felt for seperating from the lifestyle? or it could be just some peyote induced realization that wears off after coming down.
what a tragic character chris turned out to be. i'm still shocked it ended that way.
i'm very angry. i'm watching the sopranos now, midway through season 4 and f'ing cinematical spoiled last night for me. :yabbse-angry:
Quote from: ddiggler6280 on May 14, 2007, 12:48:40 PM
I can't stop thinking about what tony meant at the end by "i get it",
Spoils.I took it as Tony just saying:
"I Get It. I'm the boss and i can do what i want, whenever i want.... people are gonna think I'm doing it all ready, and not even Chrissy could survive a life of this so what does the say for me. Fuck it. Let's go..."
i think Tony's gonna just go crazy during these last 3. Kill Leotardo, Fuck whoever, Take whatever, end up getting his whole family killed over it... both families.
Last Ep. Predictino:
Most everyone dies. Tony becomes king shit, bat-shit crazy, and all alone.
as shit...
Quote from: ddiggler6280 on May 14, 2007, 12:48:40 PMwhat a tragic character chris turned out to be. i'm still shocked it ended that way.
he really is, especially when you consider his demeanor in the previous two episodes (save the killing of the screenwriter). he was more responsible and restrained than he's probably ever been. i'm thinking particularly of the phone call to tony after finding his front yard torn to shit by pauly. the old, drugged up chrissy would've immediately retaliated via smashing his hummer into pauly's living room or something equally destructive. but what does he do - he calls tony and says "i'm not going to do anything stupid here tony, no payback, no nothing, b/c i love you and i know you're going to take care of it and do the right thing.." it's really fucked up b/c you got the sense that he was really trying to sober up and do better but ultimately he's forced to drink by pauly and tony. so drinking leads to drugs which lead to car accident and then... well you know.
Quote from: ddiggler6280 on May 14, 2007, 12:48:40 PM
or it could be just some peyote induced realization that wears off after coming down.
that's what i'm inclined to think. i just can't see him triumphantly pronouncing this "answer" - whatever it may be - in his next therapy session. but hell, the beauty of this show is that anything you think is going to happen will probably be debunked in the first 5 minutes of the next episode.
also, did anyone notice the ducks that were in the same water tony's guys were dumping the asbestos in? some ppl at lunch today were talking about that foreshadowing tony's inevitable demise.
Chris was going to end up bad one way or the other. He is probably the most traumatic character of the series, and that is saying a lot. Consider that the drug problem started all the way in the 2nd season, and in all those years he was never able to control it like the other guys. He was always weaker, and that is why he reacted like crazy every time because he didnt know what else to do. It was obvious that things would get much worse when Adriana was gone, but the writers did the opposite and made him look like he was taking the right way. The finale last year with him and the realtor didnt make a lot of sense then but it showed how fucked up he was. He hated Tony and loved him at the same time and trying to prove himself and get Tonys respect was what fucked him up the most. It was great seeing how Paulie felt, cause they always had problems but Paulie is very emotional and love Chris anyhow.
I agree that Tony will be out of control and go after Leotardo. No matter the outcome for Tony's family, I want that scumbag dead. Its amazing how they dont show it, or maybe its a writing problem, but the NJ family has had a lot of problems over the years even with Tony being 'under control' of the situation. The NY family had Carmine die, then Johnny Sack went to jail, etc... and they still act like they are fucking dandy.
Shock 'Sopranos' death as show nears end
NEW YORK (AP) -- The body count for "The Sopranos" had a major bump Sunday as this HBO mob drama races toward its own termination. (Spoiler alert: If you plan to watch the episode later and don't want to learn the newest casualty, stop reading now.)
(Have you stopped reading yet? This is your final warning.)
With the series' conclusion just three episodes away (on June 10), this week's victim was Christopher Moltisanti, nephew of New Jersey mob boss Tony Soprano and, until lately, Tony's presumed successor. Death resulted from a car crash with Christopher at the wheel, but Tony, by then fed up with his destructive behavior, made sure the accident was decisive.
It was early in the episode that Christopher (Michael Imperioli) and Tony (James Gandolfini) were returning from Manhattan, where they had a contentious meeting with New York boss Phil Leotardo.
Barreling along a deserted New Jersey highway, the two of them groused about the deal going sour. Meanwhile, Christopher kept taking his eyes off the road to fine-tune his sound system (which notably was playing Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb" from the soundtrack for the recent film "The Departed" -- a song that also figured in a previous episode).
Then his sport utility vehicle abruptly crossed the center line. Christopher veered off the road to miss an oncoming car and crashed down a hill.
Tony was banged up, but Christopher was in far more serious condition. Having suffered internal injuries, he was spitting up blood and gasping for breath.
He pleaded for help. But before Tony could dial 911, the dazed Christopher added, as if about to face a DUI charge, "I'll never pass the drug test. Call me a taxi."
Feeling betrayed yet again by Christopher (who had routinely vowed that he was drug-free), Tony made a fateful decision: It was time to solve this personnel problem. Tony pinched Christopher's nose, guaranteeing he would smother, and, looking comfortably numb, Christopher faded away.
This short interlude led an hour that predominantly addressed the effect of Christopher's death on his family, the crew and Tony in particular.
Played by Imperioli since "The Sopranos" premiered in 1999, Christopher was headstrong and homicidal, self-involved and erratic, all faults that were enhanced by his alcohol and drug addictions.
Having collected many dangerous enemies (including Leotardo), Christopher was widely expected by "Sopranos" fans to meet a violent demise by the series' end. The circumstances and timing, however, were a surprise -- as well as Tony's mixed reaction.
Despite suffering pain, loss and guilt from Christopher's death, Tony also felt grateful relief from a burden he accurately described to his psychiatrist, Dr. Melfi, as "a weak, lying drug addict who fantasized about my downfall."
At the end of the hour, Tony, who by then had bolted for a private getaway to Las Vegas, was watching the sun come up across the desert while, in a peyote haze, he bellowed out, "I get it!"
Viewers were left to ponder just what it was he got.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.
sweet jesus.
oh it's on.
I cant believe there is only one episode left... and what has been happening... shit!
How the fuck are they gonna end this all in ONE hour!? Come On!
Some of the biggest things in this show have happened over 5-10 minutes... I think the episode will have major things happening from the first scene.
the soprano family is gonna get killed. every last one of 'em.
Quote from: 72teeth on June 04, 2007, 01:18:52 AM
How the fuck are they gonna end this all in ONE hour!? Come On!
yeah that's what i originally thought but at the same time it's more exciting for the war to happen over the course of 2 episodes as opposed to say, 7. i really don't see how the big trail/prison ending can happen now. they can't do that in a single episode... right? however i can't see the show ending w/o paying off all the work the feds have done to date trying to nail tony.
some randoms thoughts/questions/wtfs:
- couple ppl i saw it with are convinced that paulie is actually working for phil now, and he's going to be the one to take tony down. i don't buy it tho, b/c paulie was convinced he killed phil earlier.
- in the cartoon aj watches in the hospital, a bomb falls to the ground and kills everyone. they've been hinting at a terrorist attack for some time now. and did you guys see the light that hit everyone's faces in the thankfully brief trailer? sure looked like an explosion to me!
- i didn't like melfi's dismissal of tony. after 7 years, all of a sudden she decides to end it b/c of this one study?
- what about that raging bull moment in the restaurant, when tony and sil are pretend boxing in slo-mo and laughing? i just took it as bizarre sopranos comic relief.
i'm going to watch it again tonight.
people talk a lot of bs... i dont buy it but who knows... i heard that about paulie, and also that sil is the snitch. they said he is not dead and he was the one that had to warn everyone and instead set them up, and thats is why they dont release info at the hospital because he is actually alive.
i hated that scene with sil because everyone is alert and knows whats happening, especially him. why the fuck did he leave the bing without a shotgun in his HAND... he had it in the bag in the back seat...
melfi has been struggling with tony for the 7 years... and its not the first time therapy IS OVER and then its not... so we'll see what happens in the final ep.
i think we need to see a resolution with the fbi stuff and of course agent harris... he's been in satriales and showing up every other episode... so either something related to terrorism or he is still after tony and we'll see what happens with that...
i honestly think agent harris and the FBI/terrorism subplot is just a reflection of the war on terror and how it really doesn't affect our daily lives. They hint at paranoia over the course of the whole season but it never comes to fruition. kind of an obvious statement, but i think it would be the only valid reason to include such a subplot in the first place.
Besides, Agent Harris's presence was already justified in his decision to warn Tony of Phil's hit.
...gonna miss this show
Quote from: kal on June 04, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
people talk a lot of bs... i dont buy it but who knows... i heard that about paulie, and also that sil is the snitch. they said he is not dead and he was the one that had to warn everyone and instead set them up, and thats is why they dont release info at the hospital because he is actually alive.
About Paulie, I don't think so but who knows, the other rumors are just pretty dumb, Sil unfortunately is as good as death IMO.
Quote from: kal on June 04, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
i hated that scene with sil because everyone is alert and knows whats happening, especially him. why the fuck did he leave the bing without a shotgun in his HAND... he had it in the bag in the back seat...
Yeah wtf was that?! Why the hell do they even go to the Bing if there is a target on them? Can't they send somebody? Fuck! I liked Sil, I even thought he was the one that would end up alive :yabbse-sad:, he never really messed with NY. And about Bobby's, even without knowing what A. Harris told T, they must know something was up from the moment Phil sent Tony and Carmine to Jersey.
Also, I get NY has more power but they can take them out that easily? Although right now it seems Jersey has no muscle at all.
Quote from: kal on June 04, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
melfi has been struggling with tony for the 7 years... and its not the first time therapy IS OVER and then its not... so we'll see what happens in the final ep.
Agree, didn't like this either, I wonder if we are gonna see something else about her.
Quote from: kal on June 04, 2007, 10:11:21 AM
i think we need to see a resolution with the fbi stuff and of course agent harris... he's been in satriales and showing up every other episode... so either something related to terrorism or he is still after tony and we'll see what happens with that...
Agent Harris once said to Tony he didn't care for Phil, he did something to a woman cop, so even if he was once after Tony he rather have T taking out Phil than the opposite.
Final ep. will be fucking brutal.
Quote from: Fernando on June 05, 2007, 12:18:28 PM
Final ep. will be fucking brutal.
all i ask is that no one spoils it in their avatar.
(this is another thread i've been reading without actually reading)
Hey P, how much delay do you usually have in Australia with TV shows?
for american shows, anywhere from one day (talk shows such as conan, leno, the view, etc), to 6 months (Lost, but we didn't hav to wait all those months you had after the first chunk so i'll be caught up soon), to like 2 years (Six Feet Under, it pretty much went straight to dvd).
That kinda sucks... dont you like downloading the shows when they become available?
Most of my friends from Argentina or Mexico download them on iTunes or Torrets because the delay is more or less like that. HBO is always like a year or more late, and they also dont have all the shows. And then most of the ABC, NBC, CBS series are 2-3 months delayed.
WHAT THE FUCK!
UNBELIEVABLE.
I've only seen a handful of scenes from the entire series, here and there over the past few years, so I really didn't know what was going on, plotwise, in this last episode. But I wanted to see it just for the heck of it. That was a pretty swell ending. It spells out the inevitable conclusion without hitting it home. I kinda guessed that's how it would go out, stylistically, because how else do you end something so massive?
well thats that.
i was in a room with about 10 other people, and they are all so pissed right now. personally i thought it was very fitting. can't even talk about it anymore as i just argued with a bunch of people who hated it, but i guess that's the essence of the show.
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I'm a very casual watcher of the show, never seen more than maybe 10-15 episodes of the show over the 6 seasons. But even I know that this was the most contempt any popular entertainment in history has ever shown its audience. I'm not pissed because I was never invested in the show but I couldn't care less about watching from the beginning now.
A friend of mine just called and said that the idea is that Tony was killed by the guy who went into the bathroom and the last thing he saw was Meadow walking into the diner.
The fun will start when the anti-snobbery snobbery starts and people start trying to defend the episode.
SPOILERSi was unsure at first, but after mulling it over for ten minutes i absolutely loved it. what a great way to end the show. as soon as tony started playing that song on the jukebox, i knew the whole family was gonna get together and they'd eat together and it'd all be over. of course, they had to make it so tense that you thought that EVERYBODY that walked into that diner was gonna kill tony, but it HAD to end that way. LIFE GOES ON! tony stayed in control while (in a sense) reaching closure with his uncle (a point that i was hoping would be addressed before the series ended, so i'm happy), meadow's happy with the decisions she's making with her career, carmela is doing her real estate shit, and how quickly AJ's depression goes away when his family buys him a new bmw and gets him a cool job (consumerism has always had a very strong presence in the show). everybody just moved on from tony almost about to die instantly. all the craziness, all the death threats, the depression, gone, b/c life goes on. who can worry about terrorism and cancer and all that shit when one just has to go on. it was unlike the six feet under series finale, whose message was everything ends, in that here, the future is wide open yet constricted. the family has every opportunity open to them b/c of their money and their power, and even though death and horrors loom large right around every corner, they can just turn the blind eye and keep moving.
neat stuff.
Quote from: sparrowhoff on June 10, 2007, 09:24:42 PM
A friend of mine just called and said that the idea is that Tony was killed by the guy who went into the bathroom and the last thing he saw was Meadow walking into the diner.
that just doesn't jive with me. at all. if tony were dead, they'd let you know.
and, also, sparrowhoff, you said this was contemptuous towards its audience, which is also way out of line. the sopranos, as well liked by douchebags as it is, has always challenged its audience. david chase and co. rarely take the easy road to get to the answers the audience is waiting for. everybody should've been expecting something like this. i love the way the writers subvert expectations.
EDIT: that john from cincinnati show is AWFUL! it was pretty stupid to air that right after the last episode of the sopranos. who the fuck is supposed to pay attention/care about something as insignificant as some stupid show about aging heroin addict surfers? (although brilliant casting with luke perry opening up the show. that gave me a good chuckle).
DOUBLE EDIT: i'm in my room blasting "don't stop believin'" like 5 hours after the episode finished, unable to get it out of my head, and i'm amazed that only FIVE people here have made comments about the finale, two of which have only seen a small fraction of the episodes. yall'z ridiculous.
Spoilers
This was my presumption on how it would end from the beginning of this season. Not to the point that I'd put money on it, because with The Sopranos, you never know... even there at the end, it was so fucking tense. I just wanted it to end, any second because I wanted to leave it right there... with the family... problems and all. Kind of a bitter happy ending... but just leave me with the characters I fucking love to hate to love to watch.
Then it cut to black and I was jumping up and down. I fucking loved it. Perfect way to end that show... one of the finest on television ever.
Saw it in a room with about seven others, all of which seemed to dig it as well.
No need to defend this... or justify this... it was great.
SPOILERS:Quote from: john on June 11, 2007, 01:45:12 AMNo need to defend this... or justify this... it was great.
so true. chase has said all along that he doesn't go for the conventional shit.. and for the sopranos devotees, we obviously know thats true. a "and they all lived happily ever after" closing shot is not his style.. but i still didn't expect that ending.
OTHER THINGS:
PHIL's death... "say goodbye to grandpa!!" fuck, no kidding.. i screamed and applauded. i loved it.
there was more comedy in this ep than the entire series combined. the cat stuff was hysterical..
i'll be buying the HBO box set of all of the seasons for sure.
first i was all :yabbse-angry:
but now im all :yabbse-smiley: :bravo: :violin:
Spoils>
this was the most "grow-on-ya" ending ever. after letting it all sink it, i saw it again accepting sparrowhoffs "tony was killed" ending, i just got chills... so haunting...
my girlfriend also brought up something cool.
pop-culture references and paying homage were the glue of the show, and this ended with one of the biggest... without completely ripping it off, Chase basically ended it the same way the greatest mob-drama ends... with the daughter running in and witnessing her father get shot... this also comes into play with tony's killer waking into the bathroom first, ie young michael in Godfather I... if this is the case, chase is a genius.
Other cool things to point out:
The ford that ran over Leo was "Made In America."
"all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky"... and that wind was blowin awfully hard through the whole episode as if it was carrying him to the end as fast as it could....
And:
What were they doing in a "deny's"?
Was this just to accentuate the fact that all-in-all they were just another american family?
Were there 2 tony's in that diner?
i love you Sopranos, forever and ever...
Quote from: bonanzataz on June 10, 2007, 09:48:59 PM
and, also, sparrowhoff, you said this was contemptuous towards its audience, which is also way out of line. the sopranos, as well liked by douchebags as it is, has always challenged its audience. david chase and co. rarely take the easy road to get to the answers the audience is waiting for. everybody should've been expecting something like this. i love the way the writers subvert expectations.
Fair point, but wouldn't the last episode be the time for answers, since these characters will never be seen again?
Like I said, I've only seen a handful of episodes and if I ever decide to watch the all the seasons, maybe my opinion will change but it just seemed like an ending that was designed to piss off almost everyone. It seemed less challenging than manipulating. Between what 72teeth's girlfriend pointed out, every drawn out thing that happened in that last scene (or was Meadow's shitty parallel parking a running gag in the show?) and also that Tony was eating an orange early on in the episode, it seems as if it was setting it up deliberately to make the audience would think that they would get exactly what they were expecting. I'd be less inclined to call it manipulative or contemptuous if they didn't do all of that. It was without a doubt one of the weirdest hours of TV I've ever seen.
But I will say one thing: "Don't Stop Believing" has been stuck in my head since last night.
Quote from: bonanzataz on June 10, 2007, 09:48:59 PM
EDIT: that john from cincinnati show is AWFUL! it was pretty stupid to air that right after the last episode of the sopranos. who the fuck is supposed to pay attention/care about something as insignificant as some stupid show about aging heroin addict surfers? (although brilliant casting with luke perry opening up the show. that gave me a good chuckle).
I was taking "the finale sucked" phone calls for at least half an hour into John from Cincinnati, despite the fact that I never really watched The Sopranos, and I realized that this show is fucked because no one was watching it (though the ratings will be decent since I'm sure a lot of people were too stunned by the Sopranos to change the channel) and anyone who was watching would transfer the residual anger from the finale over to this show. I don't see it lasting.
SPOILERSI couldn't figure out at first if I liked the ending or not, but now I realize it was the best way to end it, I didn't expected to be this way. What is great about it is that you either can have bon's theory of life goes on or the guy in the bathroom killing Tony.
Can't go on any details but I manage to watch this from where I live even though there is no cable network for american channels, anyway, when it cut to black at the end I thought we lost the signal and couldn't believe the timing of it. :laughing:
Quote from: Cinephile on June 11, 2007, 02:54:21 AM
PHIL's death... "say goodbye to grandpa!!" fuck, no kidding.. i screamed and applauded. i loved it.
there was more comedy in this ep than the entire series combined. the cat stuff was hysterical..
I'm glad someone notice because I was laughing through out the entire thing, the cat stuff
almost completely stole the show.
About Phil's, so glad he got whacked, I hated that ruthless bastard, but never thought his most close ppl would betray him, in the end this speaks volumes about them, they're
best friends and the moment it isn't convenient for business guy has to go.
The HBO promo of the end of Sopranos with all the ppl of different shows not wanting them to go was great.
spoilers(even though if you read any publication you would know what happened)
the ending was the perfect way to split the argument between the people who understand the show and the people who are constantly frustrated by it. i'll admit even I sometimes wondered what the point of it all was, that last scene really summed it all up perfectly. tony was ruined before the show even began, but he soldiers on and raises his family the best he can. every child gets both good and bad traits from their parents. AJ will always have his life handed to him, interesting since the second he begins to show some character his parents can't handle it and would prefer he retreat back into mindless consumerism (made in america indeed). That scene between meadow and tony where she tells him the reason she pursued law was heartbreaking. you could see the massive disappointment in tony's face at first, which seemed to switch to acceptance that he at least raised a responsible daughter.
phils death was perfectly over the top, shooting him wasn't enough, he had to get squashed! haha. i was happy paulie neither turned nor got whacked. he was always my favorite character.
Quote from: Fernando on June 11, 2007, 09:36:29 AM
The HBO promo of the end of Sopranos with all the ppl of different shows not wanting them to go was great.
http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/
Click on video then Farewell Image Spot.
F*cking loved it. For a season that was up and down for me, well, Chase somehow wrapped it up in these last two episodes. I figured, hoped, that it would end along the lines that it did. Just in my head the ducks would have made a return. But that ending, the tension was so high that my heart was pounding out of my chest. I was so relieved that Tony lived. :bravo:
I pretty much want to re-watch the entire series immediately. Feeling that everything will be so much richer now that I can see it from Beginning to Ending. Mod won't read this for awhile, but I'm terribly jealous that he's been watching the series from Season 1 over the past couple of months.
the ending was a filter for the stupid part of the fanbase this show has. hence the stupid negative reaction the ending's getting. in that aspect, it worked wonderfuly. i'm gonna miss this show. its use of music, its use of SOUND. even if some seasons weren't as satisfactory as these last nine episodes, the production values and performances were always enough to keep on watching. my heart will always remember this show because with it, i finally broke a silly and snobish paradigm and started taking television seriously. and then i found the wire
I was fine with the ending, didn't thrill me or annoy me, but I've heard arguments from very smart people who didn't like it. I don't think that camp is completely full of the "Stupid" fans who wanted to see mobsters kill each other. The only problem I have with it is that it was another example of the main flaw in the Sopranos, which is, sloppy endings to interesting plots. Maybe it's "deep" and "genius", but it seems like lack of fresh ideas to me. Or laziness.
I think the only thing that makes me hate the ending is the fact that it ended... I loved this show and its sad that its over. However, it was the best way to end it. Even for Sopranos standards, killing ALL the major characters was too much in the past few episodes and it wasnt the point. The point is that shit like Leotardo and stuff has happened to the Sopranos many times before... and they have survived... and life goes on.
It was great really.
On a side note, I wrote a script a while ago which I hope it will be a reality someday. However, and this is no bullshit, the final scene is a very similar scene to the ending of the show and with the same song. When I heard it and saw it ended like that I was shocked.
Quote from: ddiggler6280 on June 11, 2007, 12:08:09 PM
spoilers(even though if you read any publication you would know what happened)
the ending was the perfect way to split the argument between the people who understand the show and the people who are constantly frustrated by it. i'll admit even I sometimes wondered what the point of it all was, that last scene really summed it all up perfectly. tony was ruined before the show even began, but he soldiers on and raises his family the best he can. every child gets both good and bad traits from their parents. AJ will always have his life handed to him, interesting since the second he begins to show some character his parents can't handle it and would prefer he retreat back into mindless consumerism (made in america indeed). That scene between meadow and tony where she tells him the reason she pursued law was heartbreaking. you could see the massive disappointment in tony's face at first, which seemed to switch to acceptance that he at least raised a responsible daughter.
Let me just try to add a couple things. "Made In America" is certainly referring to a number of things, but more than anything it must refer to the main character, to Tony. This episode was about how he was made and what he was made into. Two long scenes with his dad (one with both dad and deranged sister) and a therapy scene showing him still not over his issues with mom (including a hard gaze from an unsympathetic wife) highlighted the disturbed character that Chase has been building for years. This aspect of the episode summarized
how one gets into the state Tony was in.
The rest of the episode was results. The results of a profoundly disturbed person trying to create something of their own. Family, business, friendships, whatever it may be, the disfunction bled through. While Tony and Carmella are discussing their latest and "greatest" parenting decission with AJ, a man potentially is preparing to gun down Tony, and Tony is clearly thinking about the legal implications of news he has just been given, Meadow is just outside of this whole situation with a minor one of her own. She is busy trying to park the car as everything is going or about to go down, but at the last second she makes it in. While she is the most functional one in the family, the not-so-unique brand of Soprano neurosis have not passed her by. We are either literally told that her life will be marred (if she witnesses her family gunned down) or metaphorically (by walking in late and only having to deal with her family's problems in a small dose, and from a distance).
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i was happy paulie neither turned nor got whacked. he was always my favorite character.
I feel like maybe Paulie's true character was not revealed. After tony asked him to run the crew we see Paulie leave the club and pause for a moment to take a deep, reflective, but anxious breath. Later, when he finally accepts Tony's offer outside their restaurant, Tony walks away and again he looks reprehensive, despite accepting Tony's offer to his face in a very confident manner. All that over supposedly being afraid of the new job seems like a stretch. What does Paulie know that Tony and the audience does not?
Or you could say that Paulie has mommy/daddy issues of his own and is compelled to please Tony against his own better judgement.
This last season has been all about abnormal psychology, the tragedy of people crapping out children just to pass on their neurosis, neglect of one's own mental health, and how treatment may not even be that effective. Considering how much story the finale was tasked with concluding, I thought it was perfect.
Edit: yet somehow through all that discord the message is ultimately positive. "Don't stop."
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
A friend of mine e-mailed this to me, which he found on someone's myspace blog. I guess I really am going to watch the show after all... :yabbse-undecided:
So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.
So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store when bobby got shot last week and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?). Car jack episode
Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.
Sopranos creator: movie no sure thing
"Sopranos" fans who thought the series' open-ended conclusion was a setup for a movie may be in for disappointment: creator David Chase says it isn't so.
Chase went to France before the airing of the much-debated finale of the HBO series because he wanted to avoid what he called "all the Monday morning quarterbacking." But like a true New Jersey loyalist, he granted one interview to The Star-Ledger of Newark, which posted his comment early Tuesday on its Web site.
"I don't think about (a movie) much," he told the paper. "I never say never. An idea could pop into my head where I would go, `Wow, that would make a great movie,' but I doubt it.
"I'm not being coy," he added. "If something appeared that really made a good `Sopranos' movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."
Chase said he would leave it to fans to interpret the show's last scene for themselves. It featured the members of the Soprano family arriving for dinner as Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" plays. Others in the restaurant include a man in a Member's Only jacket who goes to the bathroom, which some fans have interpreted as a nod to the scene in "The Godfather" in which Michael Corleone retrieves a gun from the bathroom before a shooting.
As the music and tension build, the screen suddenly goes silent and dark.
"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there," said Chase, 61, who grew up in North Caldwell.
"People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them, and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them," he said. "Anybody who wants to watch it, it's all there."
Another problem with a movie is that so many characters died in the last season. Chase said he has considered "going back to a day in 2006 that you didn't see, but then (Tony's children) would be older than they were then and you would know that Tony doesn't get killed. It's got problems."
Chase also elaborated on how he decided to make the Journey classic the last music played on the series.
"It didn't take much time at all to pick it, but there was a lot of conversation after the fact. I did something I'd never done before: In the location van, with the crew, I was saying, `What do you think?' When I said, `Don't Stop Believin',' people went, `What? Oh my God!'
"I said, `I know, I know, just give a listen,' and little by little, people started coming around."
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A friend of mine e-mailed this to me, which he found on someone's myspace blog. I guess I really am going to watch the show after all... :yabbse-undecided:
So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.
So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store when bobby got shot last week and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?). Car jack episode
Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.
Not true. This internet rumor has spread faster than 9/11 conspiracy theories.
What a bunch of dorks.
You're a bunch of dorks. :yabbse-angry:
clinton soprano parody: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BEPcJlz2wE
i don't think i've ever posted here because i've always been behind.
i want to buy the whole show so badly right now and the announcement says Xmas '08.
i've heard no discussion of the moment Tony walks into the diner, looks at a table, no one is there, he squints a little, sees himself sitting there, cut to his next self, and the leather jacket self is never seen again. it's too weird to be just a transition. could it be a precognition of some kind? a time warp?
at first my thoughts about the ending were that the most technically supported idea is that it was the exact final moment of his life, but it's also meant to be whatever you want it to be. after hearing Chase say "[it's all there in that ep]", and rewatching it a bunch of times, i'm beginning to think it's just the last moment of his life. and it's done in probably the most brilliant way possible.
Quote from: picolas on June 23, 2007, 02:46:39 PM
i've heard no discussion of the moment Tony walks into the diner, looks at a table, no one is there, he squints a little, sees himself sitting there, cut to his next self, and the leather jacket self is never seen again. it's too weird to be just a transition. could it be a precognition of some kind? a time warp?
i think EW dismissed this rumor... just goofy (intentional?) editing...
Quote from: picolas on June 23, 2007, 02:46:39 PM
i want to buy the whole show so badly right now and the announcement says Xmas '08.
fuckers.
Quote from: 72teeth on June 23, 2007, 04:25:25 PM
i think EW dismissed this rumor... just goofy (intentional?) editing...
it's not just editing, though. there's a shot of no one at a table, then tony at the table. and tony enters with a jacket, stops, and there's a close up of him looking as though he's seeing himself and he doesn't understand what's going on.
update: i take back my single interpretation stance for now.
gorillamask links that haven't been posted here:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/james_gandolfini_shot_by_closure
http://www.stereogum.com/archives/score-the-sopranos-finale-with-any-mp3.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5G7-4O64bw
http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/06/weekend_veg_9.html
The Sopranos: The Complete Series, featuring all six seasons plus bonus materials, will be out in stores from HBO Video on November 11th. The set also includes a 56-page album enclosed in a sleek black linen box and two CD soundtracks on three discs.
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This is very cool and I'm happy I only own 1 season on DVD so far. I definitely want to get this. Too bad the thing will cost $399, but I thinks its definitely worth it. I keep watching episodes on HBO On Demand every now and then and this is definitely one of the best shows ever.
I've known about this for a while and hope to get it for my birthday....
there's absolutely no price-break there... HBO always has us by the balls.
Shit... when I was buying season by season - each one had a list price of $100, and I'd end up paying between $65 - $80 each set.
All in all, I probably spent nearly $500 to get all six seasons... including the bullshit HBO pulled splitting up the final season into two sets.
HBO's prices are still a bit obscene and archaic, considering how cheaply most non-Criterion DVDs can be procured for... but I'm envious that any motherfucker who doesn't have this show will probably end up getting the whole thing for around $250, probably.
Me, I'll just have to wait until the inevitable $500 Blu-Ray collection comes out and I'm suckered into buying the episodes I already own all over again.
Nifty looking case, though.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome.
'Sopranos' creator David Chase returns to HBO with miniseries on early Hollywood
10:26 AM PT, Mar 16 2009
David Chase, whose series "The Sopranos" helped shape HBO's reputation for high-impact dramas, is bringing another project to the network: a period miniseries about the birth and growth of Hollywood.
"A Ribbon of Dreams" will tell the story of two men with disparate backgrounds who get their start in motion pictures working for director D.W. Griffith. The men — one a college-educated mechanical engineer and the other a cowboy with a violent past — ultimately work with the likes of John Ford, Bette Davis and Billy Wilder as they rise through the nascent film industry.
Chase will write and executive-produce the miniseries and direct the initial episodes, HBO announced today. Paramount Pictures Chief Executive Brad Grey, who served as executive producer of "The Sopranos" with Chase, will also executive-produce "A Ribbon of Dreams."
"It gives me pleasure to think of working, together with Brad, with HBO, again," Chase said in a statement. "These are all people who, obviously, occupy a special place in my heart."
The miniseries takes its name from Orson Welles' description of a film as "a ribbon of dreams." Starting in 1913, the series will trace Hollywood's evolution from the purveyor of silent westerns to the powerhouse global industry of today.
"For seven years, David Chase dazzled and entertained the world with 'The Sopranos,' " said Richard Plepler, co-president of HBO. "He's a remarkable talent, and we're very excited to be working with both David and Brad again."
Yeah, I'm very happy about it.
oh my god.
it took me about a year and half to watch this complete with my father. i'm fucking shocked at how brilliant this whole thing was.
I really can't find no flaws in it. it's just THAT good.
I've read some complaints about the writing, but really, that's like Julian Schnabble says in Sketches with Frank Ghery about Apocalypse Now: "You don't watch that and complain Robert Duvall is over the top".
As others have pointed out, the show's greatest strength was precisely in it's writing. There was no standout character and therefore no standout performance. Everyone is equally perfect. This is sensational for how massive it is.
And the ending really puts everything in perspective. It's one of the greatest endings ever to anything. It more than matched expectations for me. I've read some of the different theories and well, to each his own, but it's a pretty straightforward ending if you ask me, and thematically it's just too perfect.
Now I wanna watch the whole thing again. But I'm about to start on The Wire.
I never watched that either, think I'm gonna swing for a Sopranos, Wire torrent frenzy tonight.
nice, but you should know right know that as with any good series, it takes a couple of episodes to sink in.
yet it really pays off soon.
some people have said that to me about the wire too.
I've seen the first seasons of both and I liked them a lot, but I hear with the Wire you kind of have to trudge thru 'the docks' before it gets really captivating again. I was always jealous of ppl who had HBO and got to follow The Sopranos, as a kid I just remember it for it's graphic violence and raunchy sex scenes, but it's funny as hell too, and dramatic. Everything a series should be.
Quote from: Reelist on April 29, 2011, 09:52:57 PM
I hear with the Wire you kind of have to trudge thru 'the docks' before it gets really captivating again.
that's my favorite season
The Sopranos is the best television series ever made. I keep re-watching episodes on HBO On Demand constantly. Amazing writing and characters.
Quote from: kalville on May 01, 2011, 01:35:02 AM
The Sopranos is the best television series ever made.
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"SHEEEEEEEEEIT."
just judging by their first two seasons, Sopranos > Wire
i've seen both series all the way through in the last year....the sopranos gets worse and then a little better, but the wire just gets better and better after season two.
Quote from: Reelist on May 02, 2011, 11:53:17 PM
just judging by their first two seasons, Sopranos > Wire
you have the worst taste in everything. I'm sorry, but you do.
Quote from: classical gas on May 03, 2011, 12:08:41 AM
i've seen both series all the way through in the last year....the sopranos gets worse and then a little better, but the wire just gets better and better after season two.
the sopranos never gets "worse".
yeah, i've heard the complaints on storylines "all over the place" and all that academic crap, but from episode to episode and season to season I've never seen anything so wild yet at the same time so consistent. It's also a show with "something to say", meaning that chase clearly was trying to convey a portrait of modern society as reflected in this character and his family. filmmaking wise also, it never got "worse". On the contrary.
About The Wire, I don't know yet, but it's a pretty solid show and I like it. I wouldn't compare the two as they seem to be aiming for different objectives.
i think for me it was just the first half of the fifth season. then it gets back up to speed. but it never gets bad.
actually the fifth season of the wire didn't start out too well for me either, but that's mostly cause the fourth season is so badass
Quote from: squints on May 03, 2011, 03:33:47 AM
Quote from: Reelist on May 02, 2011, 11:53:17 PM
just judging by their first two seasons, Sopranos > Wire
you have the worst taste in everything. I'm sorry, but you do.
yer mom has the worst taste in her mouth from tonguing my anus.
Hahaha never heard this one, pretty vulgar!
Quote from: Reelist on May 03, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: squints on May 03, 2011, 03:33:47 AM
Quote from: Reelist on May 02, 2011, 11:53:17 PM
just judging by their first two seasons, Sopranos > Wire
you have the worst taste in everything. I'm sorry, but you do.
yer mom has the worst taste in her mouth from tonguing my anus.
I really hope you're not saying that because of the thread Squints made a couple months ago about his mothers courageous battle with mouth cancer coming to an end. I really, really hope not. Classless post on your part if you are. GARBAGE. :nono: :nono:
no I'm not. I guess its serendipity, but if that's true, sorry Squints..
hey ima bout to begin sopranos for the first time from the beginning. i have seen only a few episodes and read none of this thread. how excited should i be?
Very. It's such a weird and funny and bitersweet magnificient show. Strong characters. It's not just about Tony, as BB is mostly just about Walt. The last season is my favorite. I'm excited for you! I hope you'll enjoy.
i've seen it twice and what I already thought was of the best things i've ever seen only got better. it's one of the few times in my life when the hype is nothing compared to the real thing.
I'm actually about the finish watching it for the 3rd time. I started watching again about a year ago when I go to the gym (HBOGo is beautiful) and very slowly I got through the whole thing again and it's so awesome. So good. I still pick up small things here and there that I didn't notice before. I like it because compared to other shows, I don't think there are bad seasons. There are not even terrible episodes. Some episodes are not as great as other, but the story and characters keep you always engaged. You're watching their stories evolve and its very real. Definitely worth watching all the way.
David Chase discusses the last scene: http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1502-Spring-2015/Shot-to-Remember-The-Sopranos.aspx (http://www.dga.org/Craft/DGAQ/All-Articles/1502-Spring-2015/Shot-to-Remember-The-Sopranos.aspx)