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Title: you know what he should do? (Spielberg)
Post by: Alethia on November 16, 2003, 10:22:19 AM
he should take about 900 grand of his own fortune, use one camera, one lighting system, a few unknown actors, and final cut pro and just make a fuckin movie.  no dreamworks or anything backing him, none of that.  i think it'd be cool if he did stuff like that between his big movies.

sorry lol but he hasnt had an update in like a week and this has always been a thought of mine, so I thought i'd share it with ya's.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 16, 2003, 10:26:04 AM
It would be nice to see him do that, although (and I don't say this as a negative thing) he really needs big budgets to makes his movies.
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Post by: kotte on November 16, 2003, 10:56:12 AM
Quote from: RoyalTenenbaumIt would be nice to see him do that, although (and I don't say this as a negative thing) he really needs big budgets to makes his movies.

he should learn what intimate movies are.

Spielberg rules anyway.

EDIT: We need more intimate films without any kind of SFX. Film tells stories. Why the fuck does every film made today need a computer?
I want to see characters and a good story. I'm tired of having look beyond the effects to see the characters in a film.
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Post by: dufresne on November 18, 2003, 12:51:30 AM
that would be a very cool idea.  he should do it for $25,000 though.  student film!
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Post by: Duck Sauce on November 19, 2003, 10:59:02 AM
That would be cool, but you cant knock him for not making low budget movies.

He does big budget better that almost everybody, and it takes that type of cash to make the magic that is Spielbergo
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Post by: Leatherface on November 19, 2003, 03:15:33 PM
I feel as though Spielbergs films are intimate. I think that is what makes him so great. He can make these grand movies and still make them feel intimate.
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Post by: Alethia on November 19, 2003, 08:27:33 PM
yes, but it would be nice to see him do an amblin type thing again, i think......
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Post by: Leatherface on November 19, 2003, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: ewardyes, but it would be nice to see him do an amblin type thing again, i think......

True.

I haven't had the chance to see Amblin yet but I do understand where you are coming from.

I notice Speilbergh gets a lot of hate, which I don't think he should be getting.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 19, 2003, 11:43:18 PM
Quote from: LeatherfaceI notice Speilbergh gets a lot of hate, which I don't think he should be getting.
sumtimes i notice that is happening less. ppl are coming round..
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Post by: Alethia on November 20, 2003, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: Leatherface
Quote from: ewardyes, but it would be nice to see him do an amblin type thing again, i think......

True.

I haven't had the chance to see Amblin yet but I do understand where you are coming from.

I notice Speilbergh gets a lot of hate, which I don't think he should be getting.

i've only seen bits and pieces of it, only the clips available from TV specials about him and stuff, but it looks wonderful, and all i've heard about it has been praise...i wonder if theres a copy floating around somewhere
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Post by: Duck Sauce on November 20, 2003, 11:43:15 AM
doesnt Spielberg still edit his movies together the old fashion way?
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Post by: Alethia on November 20, 2003, 02:18:24 PM
yeah, i believe so..
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2003, 07:47:04 PM
Spielberg isn't a filmmaker anymore IMO. He's a business man in the business of making movies. I love him anyway.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2003, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: StefenSpielberg isn't a filmmaker anymore IMO. He's a business man in the business of making movies.
so what did he do for Minority Report? You didn't find that to be top-notch filmmaking?
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2003, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: StefenSpielberg isn't a filmmaker anymore IMO. He's a business man in the business of making movies.
so what did he do for Minority Report? You didn't find that to be top-notch filmmaking?

I liked Minority Report alot for what it was. A good summer movie. Marketed hugely and expected to make a huge profit. Doesn't mean its a bad movie. What I meant is Spielberg will never take chances again, he sees filmmaking as a business now as oppose to an artform. Just my opinion though.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2003, 09:42:41 PM
Quote from: Stefen
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: StefenSpielberg isn't a filmmaker anymore IMO. He's a business man in the business of making movies.
so what did he do for Minority Report? You didn't find that to be top-notch filmmaking?

I liked Minority Report alot for what it was. A good summer movie. Marketed hugely and expected to make a huge profit. Doesn't mean its a bad movie. What I meant is Spielberg will never take chances again, he sees filmmaking as a business now as oppose to an artform. Just my opinion though.

Well, then what was he during his heyday of making Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark and E.T.? I'm not disagreeing with you nor agreeing with you. Speilberg made a great entertainment film with Minority Report, but that has been the staple of his career. Minority is only different in tone. I don't think he is the business man entirely. George Lucas fits that more. I think of him as a quality craftsman to some very light affairs.

Films for the purpose of Schindler's List is rare for him. Films with the success of Schindler's List is even rarer. He is hit and miss at best when trying to go for something.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2003, 09:45:18 PM
There must be people around here that agree you with entirely as there is a thread devoted to 'Why Minority Report Sucked'.. I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who find MR to be a great, great picture.
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Post by: Sleuth on November 30, 2003, 09:49:24 PM
I'm not saying MR was a bad film, but it sorely lacked dinosaurs that sneeze on the main character or maybe he could put his hands in dinosaur shit to make it an instant masterpiece.  Wacky foreign doctors and rotten sandwiches are a poor replacement!
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2003, 09:58:48 PM
I dont think Minority Report sucked. I liked it alot. I just think Spielberg looks into how much money a project of his is going to make right after he thinks what would be a good movie.
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Post by: SHAFTR on November 30, 2003, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: StefenI dont think Minority Report sucked. I liked it alot. I just think Spielberg looks into how much money a project of his is going to make right after he thinks what would be a good movie.

I think Spielberg is a storyteller first.  I don't think he is looking for a big blockbuster, but rather a good story to tell.

Often, those two equal the same thing.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2003, 10:04:19 PM
Care to explain further?
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2003, 10:08:45 PM
Spielberg is one of my favorites, I just think that as he got older and more succesful "HIS" ideas took a backseat to what the people around him thought the audience wanted to see. He hasent done anything "original" in awhile. A.I Was an adaptation, as was minority report, and catch me if you can wasnt anything he came up with, His next one isnt either from what i hear. He needs more originals like Close Encounters, ET and the like.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2003, 10:13:18 PM
Quote from: StefenHe hasent done anything "original" in awhile. A.I Was an adaptation, as was minority report, and catch me if you can wasnt anything he came up with, His next one isnt either from what i hear. He needs more originals like Close Encounters, ET and the like.


Ah I got ya. I'd say all the ones you named are pretty similiar in being light material, but yea, the quality of his original work is much better than his latest adaptations. They carry a signature of personality to him, but I still don't believe they are really anything grandstanding for speaking to his personality.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2003, 10:18:10 PM
I see where all this is going but really, after Schindler's List, the only direction Spielberg can go is down.... so can you blame the guy?
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2003, 10:23:36 PM
Quote from: CinephileI see where all this is going but really, after Schindler's List, the only direction Spielberg can go is down.... so can you blame the guy?

I think I could blame the guy. His last three movies have been retreads into subjects already done by him only with the hope that they can be more impressive than his early work. Only Minority Report did that by going above Raiders of the Lost Ark. Schindler's List promised a new outlook for him into bringing his talent to some serious subjects. Amistad and Saving Private Ryan were made and only having seen the latter, its a pretty weak film overall.
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Post by: cine on November 30, 2003, 10:25:47 PM
So you find Schindler's List to be a weak film?
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2003, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: CinephileSo you find Schindler's List to be a weak film?

C'mon. Read it again.
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Post by: Stefen on November 30, 2003, 10:47:53 PM
Thats a good point about him not being able to go anywhere but down. AI and moreso Minority Report were very dark in tone which I dug. I still think he should direct a movie about Shaquille O'neal and Vlade Divacs as buddy cops coming together to solve a crime. Charles Barkley could be the sarge.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2003, 10:54:57 PM
Quote from: StefenThats a good point about him not being able to go anywhere but down. AI and moreso Minority Report were very dark in tone which I dug.

He can still go up by getting serious with the material he is filming. And, really, why do people claim greatness with simple tone change? Its not that important nor really showing of growth at all.
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Post by: Pubrick on December 01, 2003, 12:44:34 AM
basically what stefen and everyone else is trying to say here, is that Spielberg is Jewish.

which we already knew.
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Post by: mutinyco on December 01, 2003, 12:45:57 PM
Considering I think Spielberg was responsible for the best pictures of 2001-02, yeah, he'll probably go down. The thing that I would disagree with GT on is that I don't think his recent films were retreads. Not at all. I think he's at a point where he doesn't feel the need to impress anybody anymore. As he stated a few years ago, if he was interested in just making money he'd have done Harry Potter. And look at the grosses for his last 3 films -- with didn't do traditional business. It's because they were different than what he normally does. Even though Minority Report and Catch Me if You Can did $100-million, they were moderate successes, compared with modern day blockbusters.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on December 01, 2003, 01:04:38 PM
One thing I think no one can deny is Spielgerg's love for movies. He loves making them no less than PTA or Tarantino or Scorsese, or whoever. His films just happen to make more money than the rest, simply because he has a prefference for the kind of stories that really attract audiences. I could never really understand why people say he makes films because of the money. I'm sure he doesn't need anymore money ever since he make "Jaws". He's a passionate filmmaker and you can like his films or not (I like most of them, but only love a few) but I don't think it's fair to concentrate on his box-office results.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 01, 2003, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: mutinycoConsidering I think Spielberg was responsible for the best pictures of 2001-02, yeah, he'll probably go down. The thing that I would disagree with GT on is that I don't think his recent films were retreads.

I think they were in the sense of how light they were as films. A.I. is an honest attempt at something more, but its a general failure to me and really appreciative as a light affair only. In the dramatic sense, the film is a mere melding of two men's art and serves better at referencing things in the film to their past work instead of serving as anything organic. Minority Report has a dramatic spirit very much lacking in the souless Raiders of the Lost Ark, buts its end is still on genre terms. Catch Me If You Can is a light affair all around. Of course, you knew my position on these films so maybe I am saying this just to post and update the topic.
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2006, 11:41:01 AM
Spielberg dreams of low-budget filmmaking
Source: The Guardian

Steven Spielberg is contemplating a move into lower budget arthouse pictures at DreamWorks in the wake of the studio's takeover by Paramount Pictures.

The Oscar-winning talent behind such blockbusters as Jurassic Park, War of the Worlds and Schindler's List has also revealed Paramount was not his first choice to acquire the studio he co-founded in 1994 with David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg.

In a further bombshell, during an interview with Variety editor-in-chief Peter Bart to be broadcast on US television this Sunday, Spielberg says Hollywood chiefs snubbed his dream to film Memoirs of a Geisha in Japanese with subtitles for a cut-price $10m budget.

"Paramount gave us everything we wanted and more, and it turned out to be good for DreamWorks," Spielberg says in AMC channel's Sunday Morning Shootout. "But I was hoping it would be a Universal situation."

Universal corporate parent GE was regarded as the frontrunner to buy DreamWorks last year but pulled out after the parties were unable to agree terms. That paved the way for Brad Grey's hugely ambitious Paramount to swoop in a $1.6bn eleventh hour deal.

Spielberg praises recent lower budget releases by leading US specialty distributors like Focus Features and Fox Searchlight and the independent studio Lionsgate, adding: "I would love to go off and make a picture like Capote or George Clooney's Good Night, and Good Luck."

He expects to be able to do so in the coming years and firmly believes DreamWorks and Paramount will effectively operate as separate studios with distinct visions.

However the director will keep his office on the lot at Universal, which has played such an integral role in his career and backed hits like Jaws and the Jurassic Park franchise. "That lot, basically, to me represents home," he says.
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 16, 2006, 10:21:27 PM
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Post by: Redlum on June 18, 2006, 05:49:42 AM
Cheers, Mac. I loved how Spielberg was just getting a coffee before he sat down.

Looking forward to Brett Ratner.
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Post by: JG on June 18, 2006, 08:06:22 AM
I thought all the guests did that.
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Post by: Just Withnail on June 18, 2006, 02:51:05 PM
No, Ratner will be furiously hitting on someone before he sits.
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Post by: polkablues on June 18, 2006, 03:15:27 PM
Quote from: Just Withnail on June 18, 2006, 02:51:05 PM
No, Ratner will be furiously hitting on someone before he sits.

Just ask Woody Harrelson.

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