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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: sphinx on February 10, 2003, 12:32:35 AM

Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on February 10, 2003, 12:32:35 AM
i made some caps from pdl to show....watch for some of these on C&C in the future.

shown here, the person in red appears to be a man with a white beard with black pants just peeking from behind the aisle to the right of barry.
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and finally, as a bonus, the 'love' hand.

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the thing i find odd about the 99 cents store scene is that in the closer shot of the man in red, you can see him wearing black pants, but in the wide, it looks like it's lena because you can see her legs.  listen really carefully the next time you see the movie to hear a.) the squeak of the old man's shopping cart, and b.) the squeak of barry's left shoe

cheers
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Pedro on February 10, 2003, 12:36:35 AM
Pretty fresh material, sphinx....
How'd you get those?
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on February 10, 2003, 12:57:29 AM
Quote from: Pedro the WombatPretty fresh material, sphinx....
How'd you get those?

dvdscreenrenrAHAHAHAyes.

:D
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: picolas on February 10, 2003, 01:48:41 AM
damn. whether it was Lena or not was one of those things i was hoping would never get answered. ah well...
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on February 10, 2003, 02:16:03 AM
I spotted this too, but ruled out the person in the background being the old guy due the fact that he has a shopping trolley and the other person has a basket
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: MacGuffin on February 10, 2003, 02:28:55 AM
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Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: 82 on February 10, 2003, 11:08:17 PM
yeah. i have already burned this to DVD.. its a very nice rip
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on February 11, 2003, 12:44:57 AM
Quote from: 82yeah. i have already burned this to DVD.. its a very nice rip

there's a dvd rip on the internet?  for shame!
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 11, 2003, 01:13:25 AM
Its Lena
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on February 11, 2003, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Duck SauceIts Lena

get out of my thread
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Jon on February 12, 2003, 02:28:27 AM
Huh. That's a beautiful thing, what Paul has done.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Newtron on February 12, 2003, 06:05:22 AM
Quote from: sphinx
Quote from: Duck SauceIts Lena
get out of my thread
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Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on February 15, 2003, 09:06:18 PM
more details uncovered

both dean and barry have their first dollars displayed in their office somewhere

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pointed out on the old boards, dean has a harmonium that is stashed away in the corner

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Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: MacGuffin on February 16, 2003, 11:36:28 PM
From the Los Angeles Times comes this article about about filmmakers manipulating colors in their films to help tell their stories (a la "O Brother..." etc.). A brief passage about PDL:

Cinematographers are well aware that color alone won't sell movies. Their primary role is to help the director tell a story. While script and story remain the most powerful elements in a film, sound and color provide the major supports, says author Block. "Color brings it home," he says. "It's there to support the story. When it does that, it can knock the ball out of the park."

In "Punch-Drunk Love," director Paul Thomas Anderson borrowed the startling blue suit (worn by Adam Sandler) and a monochromatic background from French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard's movie "A Woman Is a Woman." Sandler and Emily Watson stand out in their blue and red outfits, respectively, against the San Fernando Valley, depicted in grays and whites. The narrative was interrupted three times for digital displays of colorful stripes, created by artist Jeremy Blake.

The abstract patterns are meant to track Sandler's state of mind as social misfit Barry Egan, says film editor Leslie Jones. "It starts out with his discovery of something new in his life that will change his life. The second one reflects the challenge he's got to face to protect that love. The third is a triumph of keeping what he's found." If there is a meaning to Sandler's royal blue coat, she said she doesn't know it. "It doesn't always go that deep. It was funny. He wore it throughout the whole movie."

Rest of the article here. Click on pic:
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In "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," Frodo (Elijah Wood) travels across the Dead Marshes on his way to Mordor. Colors in the original 35-millimeter film, left, were manipulated on a computer, then returned to film in order to suggest Middle-earth otherworldliness, right.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSUVWXYZ on February 17, 2003, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: sphinx
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check it out, it's NOT miked
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on March 02, 2003, 12:16:23 PM
there are plenty of fucked up things in the credits.

after the special thanks, text reads
BOOM.  BANG.  LARRABEE.  91 HUMJEE.
HI THERE.  BYE THERE. FOR TD.

the pudding woman also speaks occasionaly, but i can only make out certain things that she says.  she sounds a lot like one of those computerized voices
'thank you taking me out of my hotel room'
'i love you'
'barry egan'
and things like that.

i also didn't notice 'the end' title card

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Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Ernie on March 02, 2003, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: sphinxthere are plenty of fucked up things in the credits.

after the special thanks, text reads
BOOM.  BANG.  LARRABEE.  91 HUMJEE.
HI THERE.  BYE THERE. FOR TD.

the pudding woman also speaks occasionaly, but i can only make out certain things that she says.  she sounds a lot like one of those computerized voices
'thank you taking me out of my hotel room'
'i love you'
'barry egan'
and things like that.

i also didn't notice 'the end' title card

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What the hell is the stuff after the special thanks? Are Pt Anderson fans suppose to understand that? I know TD stands for Ted Demme but I don't get any of the other stuff.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: sphinx on March 02, 2003, 01:06:29 PM
it's just references to the jeep at the beginning and stuff about writing.  travel back in time about a year and two weeks and then you'll be in the know
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: av8raaron on March 02, 2003, 06:24:21 PM
I'm not so sure it's Lena.  The old dude is wearing dark pants.  The out of focus mystery person looks like (s)he's wearing a dress.  Also, the way mystery person carries themself in their walk dosen't seem to jive with an elderly man.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: Xixax on March 02, 2003, 07:02:40 PM
In the commentary, RK says that the guy in the orange suit is from the FAA.

Oh wait. Wrong movie.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: picolas on March 02, 2003, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: sphinxtravel back in time about a year and two weeks

that's your solution to everything.
Title: mystery of the red suit...solved?
Post by: RegularKarate on March 03, 2003, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: XixaxIn the commentary, RK says that the guy in the orange suit is from the FAA.

I said a LOT of things on that commentary... don't believe all of it though, I was a little drunk.