Not that I don't know how to do it, but there must be a better way. It came with the editing computer I had built, and the guy in the shop loaded Adobe Premier 6.5 on there (which works hand in hand with this Pinnacle capture card). Now I got the newest version (Adobe Premier Pro), installed it, and dumped 6.5. Now, it says in the manual that Pinnacle DV500 needs to match presets with Premier, so I reinstalled it. But the re-install didn't seem to go so smooth (many times I got windows saying the "logo wasn't XP compatible" or something). Anyway, I figured that would fix everything, but when I go to capture with Premier Pro, I can't select the DV500 presets at the very start. They're there on the screen, but there's no litte "+" to open up any options. This was all with a composite hook up (I haven't tried dv yet). So I had to capture using the DV Tools program that is also a part of DV500. But I should be able to do all this in Adobe. So wtf am I doing wrong??? Also, what can I do to ensure a highest possible res capture (which is the reason we paid to get this type of capture card)?
Quote from: SoNowThenSo wtf am I doing wrong???
try still plugging into your card...
In premiere, instead of using the card presets (sorry, I don't know Pinnicle), try using premiere's Device Control....and manually plug in your input settings.
See if this allows you to control it from within premiere...
...a starting point maybe?...I dunno, sorry if I am spitting off garbage.
that's the problem, it's not recognizing anything in devices. now that may just be because I'm going from a vhs deck, and not dv, but it really shouldn't matter. like I said, I could capture straight to Adobe, but that wouldn't be near the quality (or so I've been led to believe, which is why we bought dv500)...
Quote from: SoNowThenthat's the problem, it's not recognizing anything in devices.
that's what I mean by the generic built in Device Control 2.0 (I think it's called)...essentially I am assuming that yer card has/had a preimere plug-in? Don't use that, try the generic one...
I found this for you:
http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/29976.htm
sheeeit, lotsa potential problems. thanks, jj. I wonder if all this happens with Premier Pro (7.0) as well? 'cause this all seems to be about 6.5
'kay, so I found out that Pinaccle DV500 DVD only works with Adobe Premier 6.5 or less, not with Premier Pro. So I decided to keep both 6.5 and 7.0 on my computer. I'll capture and sync sound with 6.5, then import it into 7.0 (the superior program) to do my edits. Will this dick up anything, or should it work out alright???
a better question...is umm, yeah...where can I get Premiere Pro...to ummm, try it out.
Umm yeah.
Quote'kay, so I found out that Pinaccle DV500 DVD only works with Adobe Premier 6.5 or less, not with Premier Pro. So I decided to keep both 6.5 and 7.0 on my computer. I'll capture and sync sound with 6.5, then import it into 7.0 (the superior program) to do my edits. Will this dick up anything, or should it work out alright???
Importing the footage into pro won't be a problem after capturing in 6.5, you can also just use the device capture builtinto the dv500, it is really smooth, and I like it better than the built in premire capture, I have had many less dropped frames and less problems with video captured through the dv500's capture program.
Pinnacle is notorious for being late in supplying updates and drivers to new software like premire pro.
Best of luck there,
cool, thanks Michael.
One more question for ya: having done all my editing in post houses, I'm used to doing an offline, then an online. Can that be done on Premier Pro? Or should I just be taking everything in at highest quality?
Oh, and what exactly is "highest quality" anyway? Should I be fiddling with options during my capture??
Highest quality is 1:1. That's a totally uncompressed digitization. If you're doing it at home, I'd say go 1:1 and just make sure you use an external hard drive to save everything on. That way you won't need to worry about online or offline, your cut will be your cut. It'll save time and money.
totally my sentiments... BUT... I can't find any "1:1" setting. I remember on the AVID they had a really easy way to see this, but on this DV Tools capturing thing I can't find any simple numbers like this. It's all "728x450" or whatever...
Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong place.
Oh, also, if I have two hard drives with 120 space on each, about how much highest quality video time can I store?
Those numbers are the screen pixel ratios. Don't mess with those. Keep em set to normal DV settings -- or even 640-480. If you're not given a capture choice (which seems odd) it's probably automatically 1:1.
'kay, cool.
I'm gonna do a bunch of tests anyway, burning to dvd and watching on various tv's so I can look at the color corrections I do, and things like that.
Anyway, anybody know the answer to my hard drive question above?
I think its something along the lines of 4 hours on a 60gb, so approx. 16 hours worth, I guess. I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that when I first bought my mac.
Quote from: SoNowThenAnyway, anybody know the answer to my hard drive question above?
or simply...10 min, is equal to about 2GB ...give or take.
120 gigs is more than enough assuming you aren't making a magnolia "the extended cut".
Anyway, so I'm back with more capture problems.
Whether I use DV Tools or Premier Pro to capture my DV footage, I still get the same problem: on-board camera sound is consistently two frames ahead of the picture. WTF???!!!!!! Has anybody ever heard of this, or know any possible reasons why this would be happening?
It's not that I can't just go in and re-sync (which I have to do anyway, because of the additional DAT recordings we have), but it's pretty fucking stupid that I can't even trust my on-board sound to come out in sync...
the typical questions for this problem are these: do you have any background programs running during capture? DSL, cookie wall, anti virus? If so shut them all down.
Next, what speed is your hard drive 7200 rpm?
Next, how much memory? Video RAM? Do you have a video card?
Sound card?
Lastly - have you done a clean install? Removed premiere and dv500 software and reinstalled?
Michael, check out what I found out:
I went to the Adobe message board help site, and I found out that everybody who has a Canon XL1S and uses Pinnacle to edit gets this 2 frame slip, because apparently the Canon records audio on an alternating frequency, but Pinnacle takes it in at a set 48Hz or whatever you set. They say there was this program, syncheser or something, that was supposed to correct that. So I downloaded the trial program, put it on the editing computer, and captured a clip. Sure enough, still 2 frames ahead. Crazy.
I don't really care at this point, all I have to do is take out two frames of video at the start of each clip. Kinda like using a crappy old non-crystal sync 16mm camera, hey?
I guess when I have the money I'll upgrade to a Matrox capture card...