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Film Discussion => The Vault => Topic started by: Finn on October 27, 2003, 05:33:29 PM

Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Finn on October 27, 2003, 05:33:29 PM
I've been hearing a lot about this movie. I really like Terry Zwigoff's "Ghost World" but I haven't seen this one. Apparently it was a really famous and controversial documentary when it was first released. So, what the 411?
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on October 27, 2003, 05:53:50 PM
It's good. Really. :( Probably my second favorite documentary ever.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Sleuth on October 27, 2003, 06:28:54 PM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeIt's good. Really. :( Probably my second favorite documentary ever.

You always says things like this...so what's your first favorite documentary ever?
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on October 27, 2003, 06:36:44 PM
I'm leaving that open just in case. :(

Seriously though, either Gimme Shelter or Hearts of Darkness, I'm not sure. :(
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 27, 2003, 08:32:41 PM
Crumb kicks ass...I didn't know much about his comics until seeing this.  It's cool though, it follows him from haight ashbury to his perverted mishaps with women...

Strange sorta loner dude...but a very cool movie.  His brother cracks me up too.

Definately check it out.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: classical gas on October 27, 2003, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjjCrumb kicks ass...I didn't know much about his comics until seeing this.  It's cool though, it follows him from haight ashbury to his perverted mishaps with women...

Strange sorta loner dude...but a very cool movie.  His brother cracks me up too.

Definately check it out.

agreed.  and his brothers really do crack you up.  and it's also my second favorite documentary, 'american movie' being the first.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: lamas on October 28, 2003, 11:50:37 AM
what's supposed to be controversial about it though?  i saw it and thought Crumb and his family were a bunch of freaks.  weren't all of Seymour's records in Ghost World loaned from Crumb?
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: RegularKarate on October 28, 2003, 01:18:44 PM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeIt's good. Really. :( Probably my second favorite documentary ever.

Quote from: SlobhYou always says things like this...so what's your first favorite documentary ever?
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeI'm leaving that open just in case. :(

Seriously though, either Gimme Shelter or Hearts of Darkness, I'm not sure. :(

So, Either Gimme Shelter or Hearts of Darkness is your favorite Documentary, whichever one is, the other one is your third favorite?  Because your second favorite is Crumb.

I think Crumb is my third or fourth favorite.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 28, 2003, 03:43:41 PM
Quote from: lamaswhat's supposed to be controversial about it though?
he was around during the "underground comic" explosion during the 60's...really, nothing is really too extreme for today, but at the time a lot of people felt he had really poor taste.  He was a self-proclaimed pervert...had a taste for plump women...he loved curves, and often exaggerated a women's form within his work...it was really just sorta somewhat orginal at the time so some made a stink about it, claiming it bordered pornagraphy.

Examples:
#1 (http://www.12move.de/home/crumb/w11.jpg) and #2 (http://www.12move.de/home/crumb/ccc14_bizarre.gif)
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: bonanzataz on October 28, 2003, 04:08:00 PM
i loved this doc when it first came out (i must have been 10 or 11, i don't remember) and my mom bought me this awesome coffee table book of Crumb's artwork. i have to take a look at that thing.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 28, 2003, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazand my mom bought me this awesome coffee table book of Crumb's artwork. i have to take a look at that thing.
I am ammusing it's this one (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0316163066/qid=1067380315/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/002-6066274-8252014?v=glance&s=books)?  I snagged a copy awhile back of it for like $20 at some used bookstore.  But if there is another one out there....do spill the beans...

EDIT....or even assuming too....
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on October 28, 2003, 06:22:42 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeIt's good. Really. :( Probably my second favorite documentary ever.

Quote from: SlobhYou always says things like this...so what's your first favorite documentary ever?
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeI'm leaving that open just in case. :(

Seriously though, either Gimme Shelter or Hearts of Darkness, I'm not sure. :(

So, Either Gimme Shelter or Hearts of Darkness is your favorite Documentary, whichever one is, the other one is your third favorite?  Because your second favorite is Crumb.

I think Crumb is my third or fourth favorite.

They are tied. :(
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Finn on October 29, 2003, 07:09:10 AM
I would love to see this movie, but I can't find a cheap place to get it. It's not available for rent and all the buying prices are really high for a movie I've never seen.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on October 29, 2003, 07:45:49 AM
*cough*netflix*cough*
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: pete on October 29, 2003, 04:07:07 PM
I heard zwigoff would threaten to shoot himself in the head everytime crumb refuses to collaborate.  it was something kinda extreme like pointing a pistol at himself or something.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 29, 2003, 08:04:29 PM
I like this movie, too. I just don't know the point of it besides the guy's story being interesting to watch. I think the charm of this movie is just the large number of people's identification with him. Dramatically, though, there feels to be little there. The guy details everything out about his life to where drama seems not relevant. And yes, I do identify with him to a piont and am entertained by the story. Even with a documentary like American Movie, you saw a man's life being told but it was serving was the higher purpose of conveying the feelings of what it is like to be a filmmaker for anyone starting out now. Crumb is just great to watch.

~rougerum
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: van gogh on October 29, 2003, 09:48:53 PM
I agree with the Gold Trumpet.  Grum was just a normal tortured soul guy like most of us, but he could draw.  He lives some where in France now right?
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 29, 2003, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: van goghHe lives some where in France now right?
yes sir...indeed.
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Finn on November 16, 2003, 06:50:27 PM
Well, I finally got to see this movie. I bought it at Borders (the only place I could find it) for a good price. It was very weird, disturbing and good!
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: 03 on May 03, 2005, 10:47:59 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4627180
Title: Crumb = Weird sex · Obsession · Comic books?
Post by: Pubrick on May 05, 2005, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: Arielhttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4627180
that was great. it seems not a lot has changed since crumb.

i wonder if he'll hav a blossoming in his later years. now that' he's over 60, he could still kurosofy.