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Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on October 23, 2003, 02:40:03 PM
couldnt find the "A seven nation army couldn't hold him back....from acting?!@?" thread.  so, whatever.  trailer is up.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/cold_mountain/
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Sleuth on October 23, 2003, 02:45:10 PM
That's a quality trailer
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Ghostboy on October 23, 2003, 02:47:26 PM
Jude Law looks like a badass.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: mutinyco on October 23, 2003, 03:24:31 PM
Don't you love it when beautiful well-bred actors play po' white trash!
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pwaybloe on October 24, 2003, 09:49:35 AM
Ehh...  Why do actors have to exaggerate Southern accents?  Oh well.

This book has been sitting on my shelf unread for a while.  Time to get crackin' before Christmas.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on October 27, 2003, 10:02:16 AM
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Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: MacGuffin on December 03, 2003, 10:27:04 PM
Minghella praises Jack White's debut acting role

Anthony Minghella has praised Jack White's debut acting performance in Cold Mountain.

The White Stripes frontman plays a soldier in the £50 million civil war epic, as well as contributing songs to the soundtrack.

Minghella, who directs the Oscar-tipped film, describes White as an "absolute natural", reports the NME.

He said: "Jack is fantastic in this film. You would never know he is not an actor by profession. He is an absolute natural, tremendous.

"We cast him in Cold Mountain because of the songs. For his role, he has to sing - that's why I got him. But then we discovered he can act too, so he sings and acts.

"It was beautiful, he really is a tremendous talent. He made the transition from music to acting very easily. He is a performer. That's why I'm a fan.

"When I've seen the White Stripes play you can see Jack has a very theatrical side to him."
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: NEON MERCURY on December 03, 2003, 10:46:49 PM
1) is A.M. serious....about white....???..or is it just PR stuff
2)  not to sure how a civil war pic relates to the sounds of the white stripes(cold mounnt.  is civil war era right???)
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 04, 2003, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY1) is A.M. serious....about white....???..or is it just PR stuff
2)  not to sure how a civil war pic relates to the sounds of the white stripes(cold mounnt.  is civil war era right???)

Anything with this sorry excuse for a musician in it is complete commercial crap.   :P
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: cowboykurtis on December 04, 2003, 01:33:28 PM
gorgeous trailer -- renee looks laughable, but other than that, looks promising.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pedro on December 04, 2003, 06:34:17 PM
yeah....renee's line about THEY MAKE THE WEATHER AND THEN STAND IN THE RAIN AND SAY ITS RAININ' made me laugh when i saw it in theaters.  i hope that's not representative of her whole preformance.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Banky on December 04, 2003, 06:39:27 PM
i thought it was a pretty powerful trailer
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: RegularKarate on December 04, 2003, 07:54:54 PM
Epic Cheese

Man, trailers keep doing this...  play that music and have those really cheesy clips...

Kidman and Zellwiger both look like a joke

Especially Kidman... is she playing a cartoon version of Scarlette OHara?
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pedro on December 04, 2003, 07:58:35 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Especially Kidman... is she playing a cartoon version of Scarlette OHara?
nah...zellwigger looks terrible.  i think kidman looks lovely as always
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Ravi on December 04, 2003, 08:30:26 PM
I haven't seen the trailer, but I've seen the poster hanging at the theater, and it looks like Lord of the Rings meets Human Stain or something.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on December 08, 2003, 03:09:45 PM
I saw a preview of this last Thrusday, and thought it was awesome. At first I had trouble accepting Nicole Kidman as a young southern belle, but those feelings quickly faded as the story picked up steam. Jude Law gives an Oscar-worthy performance, as does Kidman. The movie reminded me a lot of Cast Away, but in this story, we get to see how both of the characters are affected by the war throughout the movie.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on December 31, 2003, 01:20:43 PM
hey, this was good.  anyone seeing it?  the war scenes in the beginning were incredible.  ONE- the long shots seemed so beautiful they could've been paintings, and TWO- the closeup shots 'in' the battle were so claustrophobic they really made you feel the crush of being there.  also, one of the biggest damn casts of the year.  EVERYbody wanted to get in on some of this action, and although from the beginning i've been holding its all too obvious "oscar bait" status against it, its still become one of my top 10 films of hte whole year.  also, love nicole kidman and as i mentioned on another thread, it was difficult for me to do anything but stare at her everytime she was onscreen.  (when did she get so damn beautiful?) my favorite segment of the film during his 'odyssey-like' journey was natalie portmans.  it broke my heart.  BROKE IT.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Weird. Oh on December 31, 2003, 02:31:14 PM
Yeah I saw this the other night. I'd have to agree that it was really good. The scenery was very beautiful. I think it was shot in Romania. The cast was pretty solid top to bottom and I really enjoyed PSH small character in it. It was quite heartbreaking at several different points.(Spoiler alert) The scene with Sarah (natalie portman's character) was very sad. Also, the scene where Teague basically kills Sally's husband and then when her two kids try to come to her rescue they shoot them is really heartbreaking. Again, I have to agree with modern, when Kidman was on the screen I couldn't take my eyes off of her. I've never previously been captivated by her as much as I was in this film. Cold Mountain definitely showed the brutality of war and the will to survive.

The only problem I had with this film was length and the relationship between Inman (Jude Law) and Ada (Kidman). There isn't much light shed on how they grew to love each other so much. We only see them meeting a few times and even the characters point out in the movie they can count on one hand how many times they've seen each other. [/b]
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: samsong on December 31, 2003, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: Weirdo1769movieMikeThe only problem I had with this film was length and the relationship between Inman (Jude Law) and Ada (Kidman). There isn't much light shed on how they grew to love each other so much. We only see them meeting a few times and even the characters point out in the movie they can count on one hand how many times they've seen each other.

I hate to use Romeo and Juliet as an example but the film has the same idea.  The fact that they could love each other and pretty much live for each other after a few glances and encounters emphasizes how powerful love is, even in fleeting moments.  It reminded me a lot of In the Mood for Love, which does take more time to show them getting to the point of falling in love, but also relies heavily on the quick meetings in the halls or how thehy pass each other by.  Inman even is confused as to why he tries so hard to get back to Cold Mountain for a women he loves that he hardly knows.  But again I thought that spoke of the power of love and its unpredictability.

I saw Cold Mountain as the Odyssey set during the Civil War and it was montrously beautiful.  It's sense of Romanticism is so dead on and is filling with these broad strokes of emotion and humanity that it rivals the epic work of David Lean (though I'll be the first to say that no one does it better than Lean).  Here we have grand characters, noble themes, and gorgeous, gorgeous scenery all jumping off the screen, tied together with a very soft score that amplifies everything.  The intimacy achieved in project as large scale as this one if something to behold, and reminded me much of McCabe & Mrs. Miller.  Having said that Cold Mountain has nuances of a Western and pulls it off extremely well.  The way the violence was handled is something Peckinpah would have been proud of -- though I think he would want more blood -- and the blurring of genre and reality is only better displayed in Unforgiven.  

The performances were solid all around as some have mentioned before but I had my problems, especially with Jude Law.  There were times when he delivered his lines like someone from the short bus would.  But he's still an incredible actor in my mind and did an excellent job.  Nicole Kidman... is beautiful, with talent to match.  The progressive chance in character is worthy of Daniel Day Lewis's performance in In the Name of the Father.  Renee Zellweger.  I have a bone to pick with her, since she stole my Naomi Watts's position as one of the five Oscar nominees for what is, in my mind at lesat, one of the worst movies of the last five years (I hate Bridget Jones's Diary).  But she won me back in Chicago and she goes and does this to me.  Despite my skepticism she does an incredible job.  Cold Mountain also has an elaborate supporting cast of stars who I had no idea were going to be in the film... which in the end turned out to be sort of distracting.  I would've hoped for some more anonymous faces, but all's well.  

The only huge problem I had with the movie is its predictable ending.  It put a stop to the emotions and were flowing through me when watching the film.  It also suffers from a all-too-familiar sense of, well, familiarity.  But no film is without its flaws and this is one where the craft and enormity, the grace and power o the film makes them overlookable.  The battle scene in this film blows away anything achieved in LOTR.  I say that because: a) I hate the scene of The Battle of Helm's Deep and b) it shows the full weight of death.  For anyone that's seen it, you know it's hard to watch.  Minghella should be commended not only for creating a wonderful piece of cinema but also for bringing back to movie violence the magnitude and weight it has as a powerful narrative device.  In a year when films like Kill Bill -- which I love -- makes movie violence looks like deranged, but surely fun, Cold Mountain steps in and shows what it's really all about.

Its flaws prevent me from giving it a ****/**** rating, because there were too many films this year that achieved a sort of "near perfection" status.  But I really was taken by this movie and enjoyed it quite a bit.

***1/2
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Jake_82 on January 01, 2004, 01:54:41 PM
Good movie. Jude law is hot. His character seemed very emo in an 1850s way.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pubrick on January 01, 2004, 10:19:51 PM
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don't say emo.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gamblour. on January 01, 2004, 10:27:09 PM
Quote from: P
don't say emo.

hahahaha

I saw this today, took me by surprise, a lot better than I thought it would be, the trailer made everyone seem goofy, but I can't believe I actually liked Zellweger's performance! She was really effective, and I'm really glad I wasn't put off by their southern accents (I thought I was touchy about this after Cape Fear, de Niro was just terrible). The war scenes were great and Minghella proves that when away from George Lucas, Portman can act like a badass. The story was good and I loved Law's journey (where did Melora Walters come in? I heard she had a cameo), and I think I've read arguments saying that Kidman and Law's characters didn't know each other enough to be in love. Well that's stupid, they completely acknowledge that it's the image and idea of that person waiting for them (a la Cast Away) that keeps them going, their time together is short but sweet. The ending was kinda flat, didn't feel too much for Kidman, but Jack White, I completely forgot he was in this, so I have to say, good job Jack, you blended in. I think that's a good compliment.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on January 01, 2004, 11:21:15 PM
Quote from: Gamblor du Jour(where did Melora Walters come in? I heard she had a cameo).

she was the pale nekid ass (with the person attached).
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 01, 2004, 11:51:14 PM
The first half hour was worthless. Then it got really good, especially after the fence scene.

I thought there was a huge possibility of me hating this movie. I was surprised.

I got a really strong Legends of the Fall feeling from this. Any one else?
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Ghostboy on January 02, 2004, 01:22:00 AM
The whole movie was about what I expected....excellence all around, but a little too slick to fully engage me at that sublime level which the best films work on. The scenes with Natalie Portman were by far the best, and had the emotion in that one brief moment in the bed been present in Jude and Nicole's love story, the movie would have been far better. That was a truly wrenching vignette.

The opening battle scene was amazing and indeed painterly, but I've seen many war movies that drove home the intimacy of violence much more than this one (and strategically, it didn't hold a candle to the Helm's Deep sequence -- it only felt more brutal because it wasn't a fantasy war, and because it was rated R -- but please pay no mind my endless LOTR defenses).

I definitely would reccomend the movie, if for nothing else than for Portman's scene, and for the brief image of a white horse trotting away from the battlefield, which was about as poetic and resonant as a cinematic image can be.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 02, 2004, 07:48:12 AM
Saw it last night and loved it.  Everybody has picked out the best parts, so I won't repeat them.  

I was pleasantly surprised that Romania looked so much like North Carolina.  In fact, the area (Appalachian Mountains) where the fictional Cold Mountain takes place is about an hour or two from where I am.

My only complaint was, even though the talent was great, they used predominantly British actors in place of Southern actors.  Most of them did a pretty good job, but you could still hear some of thier original accent come through.  Listen to Ray Winstone and Eileen Atkins again.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gamblour. on January 02, 2004, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: Pawbloe
My only complaint was, even though the talent was great, they used predominantly British actors in place of Southern actors.  Most of them did a pretty good job, but you could still hear some of thier original accent come through.  Listen to Ray Winstone and Eileen Atkins again.

I thought about this too. But the Southern accent is a derivative of a British one, isn't it? I've always wondered how long it took the post-1776 people to lose their accents or have them morphed. But anyway...

I missed the first minute or two of the film, I walked in as Kidman was giving Law something while he worked on a house or something like that. It felt like the very beginning but I didn't know if I missed anything else.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 02, 2004, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Gamblor du JourBut the Southern accent is a derivative of a British one, isn't it?

Yes. It's a combination of a British accent and an African slave accent. Funny how that works.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pedro on January 04, 2004, 12:53:45 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Gamblor du JourBut the Southern accent is a derivative of a British one, isn't it?

Yes. It's a combination of a British accent and an African slave accent.
that's fucking awesome.  where'd you learn that? smart one
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: The Silver Bullet on January 04, 2004, 01:21:45 AM
I'd have to say that Cold Mountain is probably one of my favourite movies of the year. It's got its flaws, of course [most films this year have had], but it's also got some really redeeming factors that make it stand out for me personally.

Aside from the picture's general technical excellence and wonderful performances, I also thought that the character arcs [especially that of Ada] were extremely clear, and wonderfully executed by Minghella's script and actors. Towards the end of the film, when Ada goes out to kill a turkey, I suddenly realised how far she had come personally, a transformation that stands on its own as much as it does as part of the film's major plot and subplots. It was a nice moment.

I also really liked the more complex [though not overly complex] ideas that littered the film. How does war change a person? How can you go back to the life you once had after something like war, which impacts upon you in such an extreme way? I found the film's presentation of wartime quite interesting, especially considering the number of war films this year that failed to present war as anything deeper than a matter of "good vs. evil". As much as I enjoyed The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King [and I did enjoy it], I must admit to having been really refreshed when Cold Mountain took a more complex and sophisticated route.

And I really loved its structure. It reminded me of The Good, the Bad and Ugly a lot of the time. And for that reason I consider it more of an Anthony Minghella Western than I do an Anthony Minghella Civil War movie.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 07, 2004, 09:36:50 PM
Getting past the bland romance that suffocates the first half of the movie, I couldn't help but feel the second half (Law's odyssey home) was the dramatic equivalent of Apocalypse Now and how it tried to encapusalate every controversy of the Civil War, like Apocalypse Now did for Vietnam. Every stop by Sheen's boat in his journey to Kurtz wasn't just another stop, but a new avenue of perspective on the insanity of the Vietnam War and some large doses of symbolism in some very minor scenes. The heavy symbolism was the problem because many scenes seemed to hinder on just whether you got the implied meaning or not, cutting away from the flow of the journey and making the the scenes drag more after the first viewing.

Cold Mountain does the same, but makes the symbolism more unbearable. The worst was the scene with Natalie Portman and her child. In the course of a night and a morning, many points are covered. Portman goes into dialogue about the hardships she's faced with losing her husband and then expresses her loss by having Law sleep with her and then crying because it reminds her of who she lost. In the morning, Union soldiers show up and threaten her and her baby with death unless they feed her, expressing the desperation of the union soldiers at the end of the war. She can't because she has little food, expressing her strained situation on food. Then a Union soldier attempts to rape her and orders the baby to freeze outside, showing their ruthlessness against people on the opposition's side of the war. To give some something nice to the winning side, one of the Union soldiers is compassionate to the baby. Law's rescue is over-exaggerated heroics. With all this in such a little scene with little importance to the bigger story of Jude Law's character, I couldn't help but be pulled along to feel every single injustice in the war that the writers could cram into every scene. The movie seemed to be pressing the emotional button all the time that kept the movie from being organically whole.

On more emotional pulling, Zelwegger's character was comic relief to the drama. Though she was given a history of abuse at the end, it was useless to combat the cheap jokes her character stood for in a portion of the story that the producers likely felt was too slow for the audience to accept. There were a lot more abusements of plot twisting than just this. Zelwegger's acting, again, unbearable. The plight of Kidman's character could be spotted solely in the scenes when she wasn't wearing make up. Jude Law just played general hero.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Redlum on January 08, 2004, 12:48:06 PM
GT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film? I'm more inclined to think it being mostly about what Samsong said:

QuoteThe fact that they could love each other and pretty much live for each other after a few glances and encounters emphasizes how powerful love is, even in fleeting moments. It reminded me a lot of In the Mood for Love, which does take more time to show them getting to the point of falling in love, but also relies heavily on the quick meetings in the halls or how thehy pass each other by. Inman even is confused as to why he tries so hard to get back to Cold Mountain for a women he loves that he hardly knows. But again I thought that spoke of the power of love and its unpredictability.

Your analysis of the Natalie Portman section is a fairly reasonable one but you missed out the redeeming moment in it - when she shoots the "compassionate" Union soldier.

I neither found Zellweger's character to be that amusing or too obviously a relief from the drama of it all. I think it would be cynical and wrong to think of her character as the latter; in other circumstances yes but here she was far from being just a cinematic tool. In fact the relationship between Zellweger, Nicole and the older woman was one of the more interesting and original aspects of the film. Well why wasn't that aspect given more screen time? Well, just as much as this isnt a war movie; neither is it story of women on the homefront.

I thought this was one of the best I've seen this year. I also liked how Nicole got to flip her scene at the end of Moulin Rouge.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 08, 2004, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

I just dismissed the love story in the movie. The scenes dealing with war seemed more interesting to me. Samsong's interpretation speaks highly of the love story, but I just don't believe it. This love story is the kind of airy love story in movies that is given validity not by character interactions, but by countless hopeless speeches in which one preaches to the other of their "undying, eternal love" or whatever. For me, it is the words of hollow emotions I've heard countless times over in bad fiction, poetry, and movies. Instead of expressing their love through drama, we are given letter readings through out the entire film that grope this approach to love. Something most untruthful to me. Also, the meeting of Law and Kidman seems like standard movie set up only. Why did Kidman notice Law above all the other men? Simply because he was already taken with her beauty? The movie hardly seems to dig at any desire the one may have for the other at all. They are just thrown together for conveniance. So, all in all, a bad beginng and execution for me.


Quote from: ®edlumYour analysis of the Natalie Portman section is a fairly reasonable one but you missed out the redeeming moment in it - when she shoots the "compassionate" Union soldier.

I definitely forgot that. Apologies. It speaks for her anger toward the soldiers.

Quote from: ®edlumI neither found Zellweger's character to be that amusing or too obviously a relief from the drama of it all. I think it would be cynical and wrong to think of her character as the latter; in other circumstances yes but here she was far from being just a cinematic tool. In fact the relationship between Zellweger, Nicole and the older woman was one of the more interesting and original aspects of the film. Well why wasn't that aspect given more screen time? Well, just as much as this isnt a war movie; neither is it story of women on the homefront.

Like I said, at the beginning, she wasn't given any history and just thrown into the situation that her "honest" remarks toward Kidman seemed pretty comical only. Everyone in my theatre were laughing out loud. Then the movie started to give her credibility with spotlighting a history of abuse and showing her kindness to others in harm. I just didn't buy the transition of her character because the beginning was such a device operation.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on January 08, 2004, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

I just dismissed the love story in the movie.

its a love story.  not a war movie.  so you dismissed the movie.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: godardian on January 08, 2004, 01:40:12 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

I just dismissed the love story in the movie.

its a love story.  not a war movie.  so you dismissed the movie.

This is true... but I still thought it was an awfully bland movie, a lot of conventionally done syrupy-strings big-deal moments for not much. The actors were all fine- particularly Kidman and Zellweger-, but this is not even close to a good movie. It's maybe a slightly okay one. I'd never sit through it again.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 08, 2004, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

I just dismissed the love story in the movie.

its a love story.  not a war movie.  so you dismissed the movie.

It has elements of a lot of things in it. There's even a touch of the western at the end. I did dismiss a large portion of the movie, but not all of it obviously when I was still able to write a large review of the film.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Redlum on January 08, 2004, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

This love story is the kind of airy love story in movies that is given validity not by character interactions, but by countless hopeless speeches in which one preaches to the other of their "undying, eternal love" or whatever.

So you don't think that the characters often questioning the validity of their love themselves raises it above your standard airy love story. Didn't they include a reading from Wuthering Heights because of this theme.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 08, 2004, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: ®edlum
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: ®edlumGT, I suppose you took this as being predominantly a war-film?

This love story is the kind of airy love story in movies that is given validity not by character interactions, but by countless hopeless speeches in which one preaches to the other of their "undying, eternal love" or whatever.

So you don't think that the characters often questioning the validity of their love themselves raises it above your standard airy love story. Didn't they include a reading from Wuthering Heights because of this theme.

I don't agree with the film's placement of this approach. it can have merit, but it shouldn't be the main thing that drives the relationship. It should have a more minor role in speaking for the relationship. It was just too out front for me.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Redlum on January 08, 2004, 02:03:20 PM
Ah okay. The significance of it came to me naturally during a completely random scene so it felt kind of right to me. I can understand how it would feel a bit hollow, otherwise.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pozer on January 11, 2004, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetGetting past the bland romance that suffocates the first half of the movie, I couldn't help but feel the second half (Law's odyssey home) was the dramatic equivalent of Apocalypse Now and how it tried to encapusalate every....blah, blah, blah

just a few kind words of advice:
maybe if you stopped comparing like this in your head while watching movies you might find the time to actually enjoy them.
no?

I so badly want you to like movies
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 11, 2004, 09:02:31 PM
Quote from: poserisms
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetGetting past the bland romance that suffocates the first half of the movie, I couldn't help but feel the second half (Law's odyssey home) was the dramatic equivalent of Apocalypse Now and how it tried to encapusalate every....blah, blah, blah

just a few kind words of advice:
maybe if you stopped comparing like this in your head while watching movies you might find the time to actually enjoy them.
no?

I so badly want you to like movies

You so badly want me to like your movies.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pubrick on January 11, 2004, 09:25:07 PM
that's deep man.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pozer on January 12, 2004, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: poserisms
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetGetting past the bland romance that suffocates the first half of the movie, I couldn't help but feel the second half (Law's odyssey home) was the dramatic equivalent of Apocalypse Now and how it tried to encapusalate every....blah, blah, blah

just a few kind words of advice:
maybe if you stopped comparing like this in your head while watching movies you might find the time to actually enjoy them.
no?

I so badly want you to like movies

You so badly want me to like your movies.

it would be a trip to review movies with you. we could be the next Ebert & Roper.
I CALL EBERT!
No, wait....I mean Roper....
dude, are you fat or skinny?
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: SHAFTR on January 19, 2004, 05:04:52 AM
There are parts I loved in this film and parts that I despised.


*SOME SPOILERS*

I dug the whole Odyssey Jude Law sequence and I thought flaws and all it was a strong film until the final act (once they meet up again onward).  Their kiss in the beginning I thought was strong and powerful only to be trivialized at the end with a cheesy softcore sex scene.  I was waiting for some new age guitar music to kick in.  Law, Natalie Portman and PSH were excellent.  I honestly thought Jack White was bad.  I still hate Renee, can you say overactor?  The civil war scenes were great, but once the third act sets in...I found myself cringing.  I just loss all interest in the characters after that sex scene.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on January 19, 2004, 12:03:38 PM
SPOILERS

i found myself offput by the love scene too, until i realized the only reason they're going into such detail showing us this is probably because she has to be pregnant when he dies.  plus the whole movie was like a damn romance novel, there has to be the consumation!
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pubrick on January 22, 2004, 06:10:42 AM
-spoils-

i liked the softcore sex scene. especially the start when he shoved his hand right up in there. i think that spoke a lot about his character and the film  :shock:
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: MacGuffin on February 09, 2004, 01:05:19 AM
Weinstein: 'Cold' shunned because of location

BERLIN -- Miramax Films co-chairman Harvey Weinstein said Thursday that he believes the low Oscar-nomination count for "Cold Mountain" was due in part to stories in the U.S. press attacking the moviemakers' decision to shoot it in Europe and not America.

Weinstein, who jetted in to support the Anthony Minghella-directed Civil War story, which kicks off the Berlin International Film Festival, hinted that there had been a whispering campaign against the production because the filmmakers chose to shoot largely in lower-cost Romania rather than the United States.

Said Weinstein: "I'm proud of 'Cold Mountain' being a European film. The movie has done $80 million at the U.S. boxoffice so far and is on its way to $100 million. But I think it (being shot in Romania) did hurt us with the Academy (voters)."

Weinstein stopped short of calling it a boycott by voters but said negative press may have resulted in "a move to deny the movie awards." The film received seven Oscar nominations.

Said Minghella: "There has been a reaction in America and a real campaign to stop movies leaving America to shoot."

While Minghella said he understood the criticism, he defended his decision to shoot in Romania on economic terms. "It was a choice between making the movie (outside America) or not," he said. "We still spent nearly $20 million in the U.S."

Weinstein also attacked what he called American "discrimination" against European films and cited an example of how few are seen in the United States.

"We believe in European quotas because European movies are discriminated against in America," Weinstein said. "The major networks in America have not shown one single European movie in 25 years."

The news conference saw Weinstein face down a question on why the movie's three principal stars -- Jude Law, Nicole Kidman and Renee Zellweger -- failed to travel for the evening's gala.

He said Law and Zellweger are shooting movies in London, and Kidman had returned to Australia because of a "family situation."

Weinstein said he had offered to buy out the production of "Closer," which Law is shooting, in order to secure the actor's presence in Berlin.

"You know my reputation," Weinstein joked. "If I couldn't get them out (to Berlin), nobody could."

He played down any suggestion that the stars weren't supporting the movie's European rollout, which begins Monday on a release tour of the continent's capitals. Law and Zellweger will be traveling with the film, while Kidman is gearing up to do satellite interviews upon her return to New York.

Other attendees at the news conference included the movie's Philip Seymour Hoffman and Brendan Gleeson.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: godardian on February 09, 2004, 01:12:23 AM
Quote from: P-spoils-

i liked the softcore sex scene. especially the start when he shoved his hand right up in there. i think that spoke a lot about his character and the film  :shock:

I didn't much care for this movie, and this is part of why, but could I ever try to claim that I wholly regret any opportunity to see either Nicole Kidman or Jude Law naked, however stupid and gratuitous the context? No. No, I cannot.  :oops:  However, I got to see the movie for free, and the nice-looking diad (however little chemistry they may have had) was just a bonus. I wouldn't pay a ticket price for Cold Mountain.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: MacGuffin on February 29, 2004, 04:07:07 AM
*MINOR SPOILERS*


I'm with GT and godardian on this. I didn't believe the romance to begin with at all, and thought Kidman and Law had no chemistry, so I felt nothing for them for the short-lived reunion. The film was very slowly paced and I thought the editing was the biggest problem of the film (is Walter Murch losing his touch?). The transitions and cutting back and forth between flashbacks and the lovers respective stories were poorly done. The while the film did pick up when Zellweger entered, she quickly became over-the-top in her performance.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: modage on March 12, 2004, 01:33:13 PM
Title: Cold Mountain
Released: 29th June 2004

Further Details
Miramax have kindly sent over the first details on Cold Mountain: Collector's Edition which stars Jude Law, Nicole Kidman, Renee Zellweger and Donald Sutherland. This two disc release will be available to own from the 29th June this year for around $29.99. The film will be presented in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen along with both English Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 Surround tracks. Extras will include two audio commentaries with director/writer Anthony Minghella, actors Jude Law and Nicole Kidman, and the film's legendary editor Walter Murch. Also up for grabs are deleted scenes, the documentary Climbing Cold Mountain, a behind the scenes special entitled A Journey to Cold Mountain and a number of special live performances based on the film from UCLA's Royce Hall, which includes music from Alison Krauss, Sting and Jack White. Finally, you can expect conversations with the musicians and a storyboard to film comparison.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Derek on July 18, 2004, 12:50:28 PM
Did Melora Walters play Giovanni Ribisi's wife in this movie?
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: MacGuffin on July 18, 2004, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: DerekDid Melora Walters play Giovanni Ribisi's wife in this movie?

Yes.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: Pubrick on July 19, 2004, 11:04:34 AM
fascinating.
Title: Cold Mountain
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on July 19, 2004, 11:48:28 AM
Worst movie I saw this year. Oh no... The Day After Tomorrow is somewhat worse.