Fiona Apple Ripe for Return
New album coming this winter
Fiona Apple has some good news: "We're about two weeks from being done," she says of her long-awaited third record, the follow-up to 1999's When the Pawn . . .. She's working in an Los Angeles studio again with producer Jon Brion (Aimee Mann) on the album, which is now likely to come out in February.
The still-untitled LP is tentatively set to include ten tracks. "When I've written ten songs, I'm done," Apple says. Among the songs guaranteed to make the final cut are "Extraordinary," a Tin Pan Alley-esque blend of Tom Waits and Vaudeville, and "Better," an OutKast-like deluge of beats.
This record is the third collaboration for the twenty-six-year-old Apple and Brion, and this time the two have really hit a groove. "Over time," she says, "working with Jon and [drummer] Matt Chamberlain, I know what they're going to have fun doing when I'm writing."
During the time between When the Pawn . . . and the upcoming set, Apple and Brion met for lunch weekly, but "not to discuss work." Then about a year ago, Apple says, "I started to get the itch" after a two-year break during which she did things like hang out with family, friends and her dogs, read, take walks, ride her bike, and work on her art.
Apple didn't listen to much music during the break, but given the disparate sounds of "Extraordinary" and "Better," she did successfully open her work up to new ideas and influences. "I guess it's all over the place," she says. "But I'm too close to the songs . . . You'll just have to decide for yourself."
STEVE BALTIN
(October 17, 2003)
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18840
Wow, I about shit myself when I read this. I've been praying for her return. But I swear, if she pulls a Liz Phair-sell out on me, I am gonna beat her over the head with a scuplture of a white penis. (a little movie reference I hope you all get)
Quote from: blackmambaWow, I about shit myself when I read this. I've been praying for her return. But I swear, if she pulls a Liz Phair-sell out on me, I am gonna beat her over the head with a scuplture of a white penis. (a little movie reference I hope you all get)
uh, what movie is that from? :wink:
Quote from: EEz28Quote from: blackmambaWow, I about shit myself when I read this. I've been praying for her return. But I swear, if she pulls a Liz Phair-sell out on me, I am gonna beat her over the head with a scuplture of a white penis. (a little movie reference I hope you all get)
uh, what movie is that from? :wink:
It's from 1989's "Sculpture of the White Penis," starring Emilio Estevez, Kathleen Turner and Hector Elizondo
Duh! :roll:
He was winking, dude
Yea, but that was still funny...really funny.
I might actually have to go against my downloading tendencies and buy this. She's cool.
how come her and PT split?
Isn't everyone just assuming they split because they shun the spotlight?
god and they looked so great together
holy shit holy shit holy shit.
i'm so fucking excited.
i've been listening to when the pawn a lot lately and it never fails to amaze me just how goddamn good this album is.
what a cool bday present
Quote from: pookiethecatwhat a cool bday present
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thanks mac.
though i have to admit: this has been probably one of the worst birthdays i've had. but maybe it'll perk up in the next 3 or so hours that's left.
Quote from: pookiethecati've been listening to when the pawn a lot lately and it never fails to amaze me just how goddamn good this album is.
Wow. I have had that album and maybe played it 3 times in over 2 years. It never stood out like Tidal to me....maybe I need to give it another couple of runs.
Quote from: freakerdudeplayed it 3 times in over 2 years. It never stood out like Tidal to me....maybe I need to give it another couple of runs.
that's exactly the problem. the album is very difficult to get into the groove of. it requires patience and many exhausting preliminary listens to enjoy. once you tap into it though, there's no return.
as a jazz fan, freakerdude, i think you'd really appreciate it. fiona taught herself piano from the Ultimate Fake Book and the way that impacted her music is very apparent on when the pawn. (as well as tidal too). off color chords, syncopation, improv-style fluidity in vocals. great upright bass on "Get Gone."
i think the album is a masterpiece, objectively. i've listened to it from a shitload of phases and no matter how much i want to pass it off as a silly teenage obsession, this album continues to impress and imbue a powerful reaction in me as a music listener.
check it out man, seriously.
Quote from: pookiethecatfiona taught herself piano from the Ultimate Fake Book and the way that impacted her music is very apparent on when the pawn. (as well as tidal too). off color chords, syncopation, improv-style fluidity in vocals. great upright bass on "Get Gone."
What is the Ultimate Fake Book?
And if you recall, what article did you get that from? (I don't doubt you, I just wonder how I missed that little tidbit.)
Quote from: neatahwanta
What is the Ultimate Fake Book?
The Ultimate Fake Jazz Book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0881889792/qid=1066766808/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-3504227-9039349?v=glance&s=books)
There are tons of these 'fake' music books. I remember reading that she sat down for a year with a jazz piano book and taught herself how to play, but I never heard the title.
When 'When The Pawn' first came out, I couldn't stop listening to it. There was so much going on in the music...it just amazed me. I was seriously addicted for months. Like Pookie said, it still holds up now, from a (almost) totally objective POV.
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What is the Ultimate Fake Book?
The Ultimate Fake Jazz Book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0881889792/qid=1066766808/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-3504227-9039349?v=glance&s=books)
There are tons of these 'fake' music books. I remember reading that she sat down for a year with a jazz piano book and taught herself how to play, but I never heard the title.
When 'When The Pawn' first came out, I couldn't stop listening to it. There was so much going on in the music...it just amazed me. I was seriously addicted for months. Like Pookie said, it still holds up now, from a (almost) totally objective POV.
i read it from the Tidal articles in neverisapromise.com. i think it was in Spin originally. and i actually think i misquoted it. Fiona is quoted as saying she learned on "The Real Book" which is essentially an illegal copy of the Ultimate Fake Book- it's hard to get a copy of the Real Book nowadays as it is outlawed, so most people buy the Ultimate Fake Books which are usually more reliable (in terms of correct chord changes) anyway.
ghostboy- what is the "almost" thing that hampers your complete objective judgement of the album? That "almost" intrigues me...
Quote from: pookiethecati read it from the Tidal articles in neverisapromise.com. i think it was in Spin originally. and i actually think i misquoted it. Fiona is quoted as saying she learned on "The Real Book" which is essentially an illegal copy of the Ultimate Fake Book- it's hard to get a copy of the Real Book nowadays as it is outlawed, so most people buy the Ultimate Fake Books which are usually more reliable (in terms of correct chord changes) anyway.
Thanks for the 411 ptc. 8)
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ghostboy- what is the "almost" thing that hampers your complete objective judgement of the album? That "almost" intrigues me...
I just meant that I love the album so much, and actually have quite an emotional attachment to it due to what was going on with me when it came out, that I can never truly listen to it objectively.
There are a lot of albums that are like that for me.
Quote from: GhostboyI just meant that I love the album so much, and actually have quite an emotional attachment to it due to what was going on with me when it came out, that I can never truly listen to it objectively.
There are a lot of albums that are like that for me.
me too. weird huh? dusting it off and playing it automatically takes me right back to that time.
When a friend suggested Tidal to me years ago, I bought it kept it in steady rotation for over a year...then I stopped listening to it over time, but then When the Pawn came out I instantly recognized how much she had matured from her first album...so I'll most likely cream my pants on this one. She's like a fine wine...you know the rest.
Here is a new photo from RS magazine (The Strokes are on the cover), courtesy of kate, aka FionaAppleAddict:
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her teeth look very yellow.
Quote from: pookiethecather teeth look very yellow.
ewww yeah they do
Well, she does smoke.
I think it's a lovely picture.
it's lovely cuz it's fiona. but dude, her teeth are yellow and it's gross, ya gotta admit.
Guess who got credit in RS for the photo/--> Lionel Deluy.
whos dat?
Exhibit A: photo from http://www.lioneldeluy.com (Lionel Deluy being some kind of professional photographer.) found in the music section:
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Exhibit B: photograph of Lionel Deluy from the biography section of his own website:
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Exhibit C: photos from the Richard Tyler fashion show, late spring / early summer, 2003:
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wow, ic. thanks neat
sometimes i think fiona is this awesome empathetic underdog. and other times i think she's this big phony hanging out at fashion shows.
Quote from: pookiethecatsometimes i think fiona is this awesome empathetic underdog. and other times i think she's this big phony hanging out at fashion shows.
Haha, it wouldn't be the latter. From 2000 until 2003, there are only a handful of photo's of Fiona I've seen in the media...she kept a very low profile. She doesn't seem to be the red carpet / fashion party type. Actually, Lionel probably needs to show up at those kinda things because he's a fashion photographer.
Quote from: neatahwantaHere is a new photo from RS magazine (The Strokes are on the cover), courtesy of kate, aka FionaAppleAddict:
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That is a nice photo, yellow teeth or no. She's just one smokin' mama, and talented as hell.
But question: Why is she with a pot-bellied, middle-aged Tom Sizemore lookalike? Now THAT'S disturbing. :?
so if she's not with PTA anymore, who is he with??
Haha, I dunno if Fiona and Lionel are even an item, but it sorta looked like they were in the summer. (Plus I heard reports of them shopping at photography stores in the LA area....there are eyes everywhere, ya know.)
I assume we'll hear more about Fiona's love life in the next few months, as she's interviewed about the new album. As long as she's happy (as happy as Fiona can be, that is), its all good. I suspect Fiona knew the relationship with Paul just couldn't last...or at least, that's what I get from "I Know".
*shrugs?*
to tangent for a quick second...
has Paul got a new woman?
Quote from: SoNowThento tangent for a quick second...
has Paul got a new woman?
...or has a new woman got Paul? :P
Seriously, I bet he's the last person on earth who wants to do anything approaching a Ben/J. Lo. He probably thinks it's nobody's business, regardless of how curious we fans are.
well, I have a reason for asking, so if anybody knows, please out with it...
Quote from: SoNowThenwell, I have a reason for asking, so if anybody knows, please out with it...
I doubt you're PTA's type, but I'm sure you could at least get a Donnie Smith/Brad the Bartender thing going on that front... :lol:
I have no idea. I vaguely remember hearing some unknown who was in Burton's
Planet of the Apes...???
NOT FOR ME!!! It's an info inquiry.
Besides, PTA doesn't have big enough tits for me to objectify...
Quote from: SoNowThenNOT FOR ME!!! It's an info inquiry.
Besides, PTA doesn't have big enough tits for me to objectify...
Plus he'd probably slap you for objectifying him. Or strap on a pair of rollerskates jump up and down on your face, screaming for you to respect him, motherfucker!!!! Don't you EVER disrespect him!!! :lol:
HA!! He'd totally do that, and then after, while I lay there bloody, on the ground, he'd spout unintelligible rap/poetry that passer-bys would pretend was cool, but I wouldn't understand a word.
Quote from: godardianI have no idea. I vaguely remember hearing some unknown who was in Burton's Planet of the Apes...???
Estella Warren- that was reported in Us Weekly, a mag not particularly noted for its credibility.
Quote from: pookiethecatQuote from: godardianI have no idea. I vaguely remember hearing some unknown who was in Burton's Planet of the Apes...???
Estella Warren- that was reported in Us Weekly, a mag not particularly noted for its credibility.
Yes, but they hold the record for consecutive J.Lo/Affleck covers! :?
Godardian, do you always end posts with an emoticon :?:
Quote from: tremoloslothGodardian, do you always end posts with an emoticon :?:
No. :!:
Quote from: mogwaii doubt fiona would tell the truth. two cents.
Humph, Fi's usually got a bad habit of being too truthful / confessional, but who knows??
Quote from: neatahwantaQuote from: mogwaii doubt fiona would tell the truth. two cents.
Humph, Fi's usually got a bad habit of being too truthful / confessional, but who knows??
I thinks it's obvious the songs will have PTA& her contain....maybe in a disguised way , but at least , we (the fans) will understand a bit.
And neat...bad habit? That's her differencial.