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Film Discussion => The Vault => Topic started by: mutinyco on October 17, 2003, 10:05:01 AM

Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: mutinyco on October 17, 2003, 10:05:01 AM
The trailer for Dawn of the Dead is up. Looks like 28 Days Later meets the middle section of the original Dawn of the Dead. They're playing it as if it isn't a sequel.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/dawnofthedead/
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: mutinyco on October 17, 2003, 12:43:19 PM
Tom directed the remake of Night of the Living dead...
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: RegularKarate on October 17, 2003, 12:59:21 PM
yeah, but he did the makeup for Dawn
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Sleuth on October 17, 2003, 01:41:54 PM
I've never seen the original Dawn but I'll probably see both
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on October 18, 2003, 11:17:27 AM
Quote from: tremoloslothI've never seen the original Dawn but I'll probably see both

:shock:

I can't of a groovier way for you to spend your Halloween. Popcorn, milkshakes and "Dawn of the Dead."

:: puts on best Francois Truffaut accent ::

"Mr. Tremolosoth ... I envy you."
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: dnthmn on October 18, 2003, 02:25:51 PM
I love the original (You want to kill it, It's not to late and I know how) but I will still go see this. Looks very 28 Days Laterish, but I enjoyed that so what the fuck, might as well see this.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on October 18, 2003, 11:00:15 PM
Meatball, is your avatar Crispin Glover surrounded by babes??

Mother of god....
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: meatball on October 18, 2003, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliMeatball, is your avatar Crispin Glover surrounded by babes??

Mother of god....

Yes, sir. Your eyes don't deceive you.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Cecil on October 18, 2003, 11:36:58 PM
when there are too many remakes, the dead will walk the earth
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on October 19, 2003, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: meatball
Quote from: Find Your MagaliMeatball, is your avatar Crispin Glover surrounded by babes??

Mother of god....

Yes, sir. Your eyes don't deceive you.

When Crispin Glover is surrounded by babes, the dead will walk the earth.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Banky on October 19, 2003, 02:59:02 PM
i really need to see the original Dawn of the Dead
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on October 19, 2003, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: mogwai
Quote from: Bankyi really need to see the original Dawn of the Dead
yeah, you should...

check this, here's a review with some pics and movie..
link (http://www.badmovies.org/movies/dawndead/index.html)

Even better, go into it blind. ... If you are a horror/zombie fan, and you are not too squeamish, you will love it.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on October 19, 2003, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: Find Your Magali
Quote from: meatball
Quote from: Find Your MagaliMeatball, is your avatar Crispin Glover surrounded by babes??

Mother of god....

Yes, sir. Your eyes don't deceive you.

When Crispin Glover is surrounded by babes, the dead will walk the earth.

Haha!
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Cecil on October 19, 2003, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliEven better, go into it blind

exactly, tear your eyes out with a shard of glass, then go see it
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on January 08, 2004, 11:01:28 AM
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Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Pedro on January 08, 2004, 06:27:15 PM
i didn't see this thread originally....wow how i dread this.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on January 08, 2004, 10:14:41 PM
new trailer...
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/dawnofthedeadqt.html
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: NEON MERCURY on January 08, 2004, 10:42:59 PM
hahahahahah...that tagline is pure cheese.....


it reminnds me of  a title for a death metal album.....
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: analogzombie on January 09, 2004, 03:20:05 AM
the tagline is from the original

and the poster pillages the imagery of the original as well. What really burns me up about this (and I can't know for sure until it gets released) is that if the original tagline and imagery were good enough to reference then why not the original mythos? Easy answer, b/c the makers of this travesty do not respect/admire/understand the original film. It's like Roger Awary said in the Day of the Dead commentary "These guys just don't get it." They don't understand what makes the original good. It's not b/c its some campy 70's zombie flick, it's so much more than that. It is truly a masterpiece of cinema (I mean that).

and from the new trailer (unless that line was just not in the trailer, i hope its in the film) it looks like they left out the line that cements the anti-consurmerism thread. when Sarah polley/Gaylen Ross asks about the zombies coming to the mall "Why do they come here." Ving Rhaymes (Ken Foree's character in the re-make) answers with Flyboy's line of "Maybe they're after us." not the the Ken Foree line of "They come for the place. This was an important place in their lives. they don't know why they come, they just do."

So we have a re-make that gingerly takes from the original (tagline, poster imagery) when it suits it but feels no obligation to stick to the original definition of the Romero zombie (slow, lumbering, for the most part uncoordinated and dumb). I have heard that it is the fresh zombies that move fast in this re-make. That after a while they begin to get slow. That i can deal with. But i can't deal with what reviews of the script and the trailers seem to show: Zombies ambushing the heroes, leaping and jumping, and devising strategies to get their prey.

I think this will be a fun movie, and an enjoyable one for zombie fans. If they could have only called it: "no more room in hell", or 'dead on earth", anything but dawn of the Dead, b/c Dawn of the Dead it is not.

:roll: (turns and leaves room in disgust)
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on January 10, 2004, 05:45:47 PM
Quote from: themodernage02new trailer...
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/dawnofthedeadqt.html

I guess that little 'glitch' at the end would look better in the theaters.

And you can tell the director comes from the music video/commercial world. The shots from behind the car looks like he's selling it. Although I will give him some points for directing Morrissey's "Tomorrow" video.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: pete on January 29, 2004, 10:57:41 AM
just saw this trailer.  it reminds me of 8-legged freaks, but without the tongue in the cheek.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on February 22, 2004, 05:11:35 PM
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Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 22, 2004, 05:31:04 PM
That guy looks really mad. Maybe because someone stole his pupil.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on February 22, 2004, 05:40:59 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliThat guy looks really mad. Maybe because someone stole his pupil.

How can you tell he's a teacher?
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 22, 2004, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Find Your MagaliThat guy looks really mad. Maybe because someone stole his pupil.

How can you tell he's a teacher?

The bad haircut. Duh!
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Ghostboy on February 22, 2004, 06:40:38 PM
I recently quit my projectionist job (hooray! now I'm broke but free to work on films 24/7), and my last act of cinematic terrorism was to take the film burning effect from the Dawn Of The Dead and splice it into the middle of Cheaper By The Dozen.

I for one love the trailer -- I think it's brilliantly put together. I haven't seen the original (waiting for the deluxe edition at the end of the year), so I don't have anything to compare it to. Granted, I though the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake trailer was great too, and the movie completely blew, but just as I did that film, I'll give this one the benefit of the doubt. Sarah Polley's presence gives me a little shred of hope, too.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Alethia on February 22, 2004, 07:00:57 PM
yeah i actually have high hopes for this one..
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: analogzombie on February 24, 2004, 07:48:10 AM
In a couple recent interviews Synder and Gunn allude to the fact that they never really wanted to remake Dawn of the Dead. They wanted to do their own zombie film but Universal insisted on the title. Hence the re-imaging/re-envisioning tagline.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: BrainSushi on February 27, 2004, 08:32:43 PM
anybody know the name of the song or the artist in the Teaser? It sounds to me like Grandaddy, but I'm not sure.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: edison on March 04, 2004, 08:18:09 AM
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Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: GoneSavage on March 04, 2004, 05:01:13 PM
Quotelast post
That was unfuckinnecessary.

Quoteanalogzombie
You are incredibly right on man, nicely done.  

I will be boycotting this due to them shitting on a legendary movie.  And please no one give me that shit about "supporting the genre", I'm sick of it.  

There are plenty of creative screenwriters in all genres, horror especially, yet studios turn to the remakes.  For shame.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 16, 2004, 10:12:48 PM
WITHOUT HAVING SEEN THE ORIGINAL...

I thought this was pretty good. Pretty fun, especially with a big crowd. Not as fresh as 28 Days Later, but there was some decent suspense and a few scares and a few moments that actually approximated depth and character development. The gore was pretty good without ever just getting ridiculously over-the-top, and there was lots of good zombie action.

So what this means is that, thankfully, Sarah Polley is still the smart young actress we know and love, evidenced by her not picking a total pile of shit to induct herself into mainstream cinemas. Plus, I heard that in one of the takes of some scene, she improvised a reference to santorum, (http://www.spreadingsantorum.com) but it unfortunately wasn't in the film.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on March 16, 2004, 10:15:06 PM
i'm either seeing this or taking lives i've decided (although i could probably wait till video for both) i will see one for fun.  i'm leaning towards taking lives just in principle to support an 'original' film and not a pointless remake.  although i would definitely netflix this when it comes out this halloween.  anyone want to sway me in one direction or the other?
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 16, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
I'd say: pay for one, see both. They're both under two hours (haven't caught Taking Lives yet, though, but I'll probably pay to see it).
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on March 16, 2004, 10:25:04 PM
yeah but i'm seeing Eternal Sunshine too and probably wont be coordinating a 3 movie sneak in (dont think i have the time).
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: El Duderino on March 16, 2004, 11:23:54 PM
i'm seeing eternal sunshine, taking lives, and secret window.....a very moviefull day this friday
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: analogzombie on March 17, 2004, 01:14:41 PM
I saw it on a preview screening the other night.

My main problem with this film si that the 'zombies' are like  human leopeards. They are portrayed as extremely agile predatory hunters. Wouldn't that call for more intelligence than the dead could muster? 28 Days Later worked, so they did the exact sort of zombie thing.

To me, by changing the fundamentals of the zombies they have not stayed true to the original and have so changed the story that it cannot be considered a remake.

On its own its a fun horror/action film, but besides having many plot holes and story snafus, the portrayl of the 'zombies' is absolutely unbelievable to me. Forget that the concept of zombies is unbelievable, but if the dead did come back to life to eat the living I can't imagine they would be a sort of human Jurassic Park Raptor. The zombies exhibit too much agility, too much intelligence and are too 'alive' to be believable. it's good for what it is.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 17, 2004, 05:42:00 PM
I like the notion that they're very fast at first, but slow down once rigor mortis sets in. Although they didn't stick to it, since all the zombies are still running like crazy at the end, it's still a cool concept.

I liked the musical choices for the opening and closing credits (Johnny cash and the Jim Carroll Band) -- it didn't exactly work, but it was cool to hear something more unpredictable.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Banky on March 17, 2004, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: themodernage02anyone want to sway me in one direction or the other?


jolie is naked in Taking Lives
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: analogzombie on March 17, 2004, 10:26:33 PM
Quote from: GhostboyI like the notion that they're very fast at first, but slow down once rigor mortis sets in. Although they didn't stick to it, since all the zombies are still running like crazy at the end, it's still a cool concept.

I liked the musical choices for the opening and closing credits (Johnny cash and the Jim Carroll Band) -- it didn't exactly work, but it was cool to hear something more unpredictable.

I agree, if they had stuck to that concept I think it would have added something to the genre. Instead the film comes off more as a decendent of 28 Days Later than Dawn of the Dead.

And in my book the Romero zombie IS a zombie. I like the conept that if something dead came back to live it would move too well b/c of decay and the idea that its nervous system was shoddy. Newly dead moving quicker is a very cool conept that Gunn gave up on, I expect, to have more action in the film.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Stefen on March 19, 2004, 01:00:53 AM
oh shit, this movie might actually be good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/DawnoftheDead-1130898/
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on March 19, 2004, 10:48:30 AM
Quote from: Stefenoh shit, this movie might actually be good.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/DawnoftheDead-1130898/
shit, Entertainment Weekly gave Dawn of the Dead an A and Taking Lives a C!  i think i'm going to go with neither, instead.  haha.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: hoichi_the_earless on March 19, 2004, 05:05:58 PM
I saw it this afternoon...it was...well...allright at best.  To me, it doesn't top the original, and, seemed like another survival horror movie.  Though I did manage to laugh at a few points.  Deadish is now one of my new favorite words!  And I liked the lounge act version of "The Sickness".  I want to know why the hell that one chick needed to go after that dog so badly though...
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: SHAFTR on March 20, 2004, 12:08:47 AM
I really liked this film.  After seeing it, I was asked the ol' "was it better than 28 Days Later" to which I would say, "Yes".  28 Days Later had a great first 2 acts and just a horrible third act.  This movie was good all the way through and it was just more fun, which I think zombie movies work best at.  I was a huge fan of this and be sure you stay through the closing credits.

I didn't even want to go, but I'm glad I did.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: El Duderino on March 21, 2004, 02:55:14 AM
i thought this movie was very entertaining, but not scary, cept for the beginning with the little girl. but it doesnt match up to "28 days later" scary wise, but i thought it was good overall....sarah polley is hot
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Banky on March 21, 2004, 02:31:34 PM
before i saw the box office reports i figured that this would be the first weekend where passion was not number one.  I figured that taking lives would squeeze into the number one spot but i never figured that not only would taking lives not be number one or two but that DOTD would dominate the number one spot with 27 mil.  Man, shows how good i am at predicting box office.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: cine on March 21, 2004, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: BankyMan, shows how good i am at predicting box office.
Predict Jersey Girl's box office.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Pas on March 21, 2004, 04:26:34 PM
One of the few cases where the ramake is better than the original, actually

Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: BankyMan, shows how good i am at predicting box office.
Predict Jersey Girl's box office.

I will ... $TooMuch millions
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: El Duderino on March 21, 2004, 04:27:55 PM
i really dont think it's gonna rake in the dough, maybe because smith's fan base changed some because it's PG-13, but i'm going to see it.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 21, 2004, 05:12:05 PM
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 21, 2004, 11:52:29 PM
Finally, an excellent horror movie! I loved this film. I wouldn't exactly call it scary (although it has a few good scares), but I haven't felt this tense in a horror film since "Final Destination." It had characters you cared about, who weren't dumbed down so that you were wishing to see them die. And the sick, black humor was hilarious, from the cheesy Musak playing such selections as "Don't Worry, Be Happy" to Ty Burrell's sarcastic yuppie to the celeb target shooting. Kudos for the nods to the original with cameos by Tom Savini, Ken Foree, Scott Reiniger, and the use of Max Headroom himself, Matt Frewer.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: myadopteddaughter on March 22, 2004, 01:28:03 PM
didn't it beat out the passion this weekend in the polls?

i think that's funny. way too funny.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 22, 2004, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: myadopteddaughterdidn't it beat out the passion this weekend in the polls?

i think that's funny. way too funny.

It's that whole resurrection fad audiences are going for nowadays.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 22, 2004, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: myadopteddaughterdidn't it beat out the passion this weekend in the polls?

i think that's funny. way too funny.

I was a little disappointed. I was hoping for more creative headlines along the lines of "'Dead' overtake 'Christ' in weekend b.o." but punchier.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: brockly on March 23, 2004, 01:51:29 AM
anyone know the name of the johnny cash song during the opening credits?
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 23, 2004, 02:01:40 AM
The Man Comes Around, from his final album of the same name. Also used in closing credits of 'The Hunted' (which MacGuffin still likely shudders at the mention of).
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: brockly on March 23, 2004, 02:29:51 AM
thanks ghost
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 23, 2004, 10:39:59 AM
A first-time director breathes new life into 'Dead's' zombies
Zack Snyder, 38, jumps from commercials to box-office gold with his horror-classic homage. Source: Los Angeles Times

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Zack Snyder is a "really smart 6-year-old kid who knows how to make movies."

At least that's how one cast member described the 38-year-old director of "Dawn of the Dead," the hip horror remake that dislodged "The Passion of the Christ" from the top of the box-office chart. Snyder admits to being goofy, but the man — who describes himself as too old to be a "wunderkind" in the TV-ad world and too new in Hollywood to "be an old-school cat" — said he knows pretty much zippo about movies. This is his first.

"Basically, in the last 10 years I've been cranking out TV commercials like a maniac," he said. This involved jet-setting to exotic locations for whirlwind two-day shoots, hard-core multi-tasking and simple plot lines often involving fast cars, beautiful actors who don't need a lot of direction, and sometimes even lingerie.

"You miss your kids' childhood if you are into that," Snyder said. Considering that the father of six (ages 3 to 10, four of his own plus two adopted) is the type who set aside his Saturday for a round of kiddie birthday parties, a change of pace was in order.

So Snyder decided to try his hand at being George A. Romero.

"I got the camera, and I said, 'This is nuts,' " he said of directing what the zombie fan calls a "re-envisioning" of Romero's cult classic. "I've got actors and I've got to tell them what to do? They could write books on what to do."

But the schedule was so rigorous, Snyder said, there was no time for whining.

"I was a pretty serious fish-out-of-water at the beginning," he said. "I think the experience of not knowing was fun. I still don't know, I'm still naive."

What Snyder calls naiveté, however, is what Strike Entertainment producer Marc Abraham calls "fresh."

Abraham said he and fellow producer Eric Newman didn't want someone who had "just pounded away making horror movies" and who was thinking, "I've been here before."

"There was no question after meeting [Snyder] that this was a guy who was going to bring every ounce of his heart and soul and viscera to the movie," Abraham said. "But he was willing to listen to people with more experience."

Snyder only had two rules while shooting the movie: be true to himself, and avoid making a movie for the cult fans.

"I like to think George ... made a movie he wanted to see," Snyder said. It's a "personal film" with a strong message about mass consumerism.

In contrast, "my movie is like an Urban Oufitters T-shirt," Snyder said. "When you've got it on you feel like, 'God, this was made for me.' But you know what? It was made in a factory."

This movie, he said, knows it's a zombie movie and "nothing is worse than the zombies."

And he picks them off with relish — especially zombies Burt Reynolds and Jay Leno.

"Once you are absorbed into the army of the undead, then you are fair game," Snyder said. Killing Leno and Reynolds is "me shouting out, 'Hey, I love ya. Bang.' "

Snyder, who grew up in Wisconsin, said his interest in directing began when his parents gave him a Super-8 movie camera after taking him to see "Star Wars" in 1977. At the time, he said, "I wanted to be a mercenary and I wanted to do this and I wanted to be a welder and I wanted to be an animator."

Directing won out — it might even have been because of that midnight showing of "Dawn of the Dead" Snyder snuck out to see when he was 13.

"I knew I wasn't supposed to be seeing it," he said. "It did have the desired effect like ... the first time you see 'Jaws.' I didn't even want to get in the bathtub after that."

And though Sarah Polley, who plays Ana Clark in the film, said Snyder is more "kid than any other director," he managed to make a movie that is "entirely his and sick and twisted."

According to Polley, when she and Snyder met, he told her "I just want to make sure that this isn't going to be one of those crappy remakes of a great '70s horror movie."

"You're really willing to go down with people like that," she said. And she hadn't even read the script. It was Snyder's "childlike enthusiasm" that hooked her. And his on-set antics made the experience good gory fun.

He's the guy who got gun-control activist Polley to pick up a rifle and blast a zombie, and then immortalized her horrified face on a T-shirt he wore the next day. Polley laughed as she remembered the shirt and the times Snyder would pretend to blow away hordes of zombies.

"He puts my 5-year-old nephew's adrenaline to shame," she said.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: markums2k on March 26, 2004, 05:46:01 AM
I shall fearlessly state: this new Dawn of the Dead is the best movie I've seen in a long, long time.

And Taking Lives was terrible... skip it eternally, any shape or form.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: abuck1220 on March 26, 2004, 11:04:25 AM
didn't like the movie as a whole...the script just called for the characters to do such unrealistic things, that i couldn't get on board. oh, and the scene where that one guy talks about how he was a bad husband. wow, was that bad.

BUT, i must say...the first 10 minutes of the movie (opening scene/titles) were fantastic...some of the coolest things i've seen in a long time. i wish they would have kept the movie in the suburban setting...the mall added nothing to this movie. in romero's film, it provided symbolism, a message, etc. here it didn't really do anything.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: RegularKarate on March 27, 2004, 01:04:51 AM
I'm always behind on these things... I really need to catch up... SXSW should have been three weeks earlier, when there was nothing out.

Anyway, I really liked this.  Remake or not.

It took the basic ideas and themes behind the original and turned it into a really well executed zombie movie.  The first twenty minutes were the most amazing, of course.  Towards the end it got a little ridiculous, but I was already with them by that point and I enjoyed the ride.

I think the update of the zombie was an okay idea.  I prefer the slower, Romero zombie, but these lent more to faster paced action and tension.  The zombies were still mindless consumers like Romero's, but these zombies were greedier, they wanted thier lattes and they wanted them yesterday!!!

***SPOILERS***

I didn't like the very end end... during the credits... I hate that fucking song and the film should have ended more ambiguously.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on March 30, 2004, 10:21:54 PM
Quote from: analogzombieIn a couple recent interviews Synder and Gunn allude to the fact that they never really wanted to remake Dawn of the Dead. They wanted to do their own zombie film but Universal insisted on the title. Hence the re-imaging/re-envisioning tagline.
well i guess that helps a little bit.  i actually did end up seeing this tonite with my dad and i thought it was okay/good.  i havent seen the damn original in years so we will watch that tomorrow night for a more direct 'comparison', but this film did have its moments.

i'll have to agree that slow moving zombies are better.  fast ones worked in 28 days later, but there was no need for them in this.  the whole thing is that there are so many of them they dont have to move fast, theyll find a way in and eventually overtake you.  strength in numbers, not in speed/cunning.  

some of the shots were a little too commercial/music video-y for my taste, and did anyone else notice how randomly a few scenes were ultra grainy blown out like rodrigo prieto was their DP or something?   the blonde character was pretty pointless, except for the nudity, which was also pointless.  interesting how these characters exist in some alternate universe that has been living under a rock for 30 years because they were unaware of what zombies were.  pretty rare for a post-scream horror film to not be aware of how things work.  although perhaps refreshing to not have all the characters walking through the film trying to be smarter than the film they're in.  

i thought the best parts were at the end when they got outside finally into the sea of zombies and target practice on the roof. "jay leno!"  the most shocking part was when the van crashed and the pointless girl got chainsawed in half. some good gore though.  i love how, they are allowed to show the sort of violence they could NEVER show if it were like a war movie, but because theyre 'zombies' you can see people getting their heads blown off and shit left and right.  haha, mpaa.  so, better than TCM remake but not as good as 28 days later, which although i didnt care for the 3rd act either, was sort of fresh in the way it 'borrowed' all its ideas.  this was okay though.  i'd watch it again.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: markums2k on March 31, 2004, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: themodernage02the nudity ... was ... pointless

See horror films much?  :roll:
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: modage on March 31, 2004, 10:43:13 PM
i just saw the orignal dawn for the first time in like 10 years and apparently my memory of it was a lot more rosecolored than i had thought.  night of the living dead kicks that films ass 100 times over.  its problem was that there wasnt much going on EXCEPT the subtext, which i generally prefer left to the sub-part.  there were few scares of any kind and not a whole lot of plot even or action to keep the 'story' (i use that loosely) going.  so in retrospect, perhaps this was a film that could've used a good remaking and i guess thats what it got.  remakes still suck, but i guess this one was pretty good.  it still had its problems that kept me from loving it, but compared to what we have to work with these days i guess it was pretty fun and could've been a lot worse.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: bonanzataz on April 03, 2004, 03:45:38 PM
i went to see this last night. i was really looking forward to it and had been planning to go for a really long time and this weekend i finally had the time. i was really into it, i thought it looked really cool, and was real excited to see what happened. but it just didn't work out that way. the fucking projector broke in the middle of the goddamn movie and the fucking theater owners don't give refunds, they give you movie passes that are incredibly small so that you lose them easier. and i hate that theater and don't plan on going back there. it SUCKS!
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2004, 08:49:24 PM
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Source: Dark Horizons

Zack Snyder has apparently convinced the suits to let him release an unrated version of Dawn of the Dead with 25 minutes of extra footage. One of the special features on the disc will be a video diary of Andy the gunshop owner. More specs TBA.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on November 03, 2004, 03:30:01 PM
Quote from: Dtm115300How is the new Dawn of the Dead D/Cut. Is it worth buying?

The added nine minutes don't feel tacked on. It adds some more character scenes and some bloodier gore. The commentary is good; informative and funny. There are some in-jokes, but you don't feel left out. The extras (a couple featurettes not available on the theatrical cut DVD) are short, but still worth a look to see the make-up techniques. It really would have been better to see a full on Making Of doc. If you liked the movie, then the DVD is worth having.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: Dtm115300 on November 04, 2004, 07:21:51 PM
There is no making of on this dvd?
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: meatball on November 07, 2004, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: abuck1220the first 10 minutes of the movie (opening scene/titles) were fantastic...some of the coolest things i've seen in a long time. i wish they would have kept the movie in the suburban setting...the mall added nothing to this movie. in romero's film, it provided symbolism, a message, etc. here it didn't really do anything.

I totally agree with that. The Cash song with the opening credits, the suburban zombie infestation -- it was really, really good. Right about when Ving Rhames shows up, the movie starts to decay.

Nothing against the Rhames.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 03, 2004, 10:12:47 AM
Sometimes I love going in to a movie with no expectations.

I saw this last night and was pretty impressed by it.  It wasn't perfect and I definitely prefer the original Dawn and 28 Days Later (and for that matter, Shaun of the Dead) over it but it was very good.  Part of it had to do with my friend's repeated drunken shouts of "Step aside, Butch!" everytime Ving Rhames pointed the shotgun at someone.  I'm really kicking myself that I didn't see it in theatres.  The opening was great and the end credit sequence was a morbidly realistic way to end it.  But 2 things bugged me:

**SPOILERS**

1)They should have done something more with the zombie baby.  They should have had it kill Mekhi Phifer and hide in the mall, making them track it down like in Alien.

2)It would have been great to have the characters a little bit more zombie-savvy. They should have shot the fat woman and Max Headroom (Trashcan Man?) right off the bat, knowing what was going to happen.

**END SPOILERS**

Overall, I enjoyed it.  I'm actually looking forward to Zack Snyder's next film.
Title: Dawn of the Dead (remake)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 27, 2005, 10:26:08 PM
Snyder over the 'Rainbow' for Paramount

Zack Snyder has come aboard to develop and direct "Rainbow Six," based on the Tom Clancy novel, for Paramount Pictures. The story centers on a CIA operative who leaves the agency to create a British-based antiterrorism squad. Various writers have been attached to the project since it was brought into the studio in 1999, including Art Monterastelli, Frank Capello, John Enbom, Michael Shiffer and Bill Wisher. No producer is attached. Paramount has produced a string of Clancy titles, including "The Hunt for Red October," "Patriot Games," "Clear and Present Danger" and "The Sum of All Fears." It also has acquired Clancy's "Red Rabbit." Snyder's credits include "Dawn of the Dead." He also is attached to direct "300" for Warner Bros. Pictures.