Why i feel the future of movies is not in Hollywood?
and i'm not talking about box-office success, i'm talking about art
today for example, i wanted to go to the cinema but all i have is Hollywood movies... boring!!
and i've realized that i'm so excited when a movie from Spain, France, Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Italy, India, Mexico,etc, etc, is coming...but not from USA, i know masters like Scorsese, Coppola, Altman or young great filmmakers like PTA and a lot more are from USA but they don't work every year, and most of them have problems to find financing, i know that happens in all the world, yes, but why this must to happen in the Mecca of the film world ?, jesus! if that happen in Hollywood, where is the future so?
or what is the future??
i don't know, but i feel sad today, Robert Palmer is dead, i have flu, and there is not a good movie to watch today (and i don't like watch movies at home, just sometimes)
:(
Yes, it sucks that Robert Palmer died. But Hollywood has NEVER been about art. It's ALWAYS been about commerce.
I like Hollywood ... but I have the flu too so I understand you
Quote from: mutinycoHollywood has NEVER been about art. It's ALWAYS been about commerce.
exactly, but hollywood (the studios) used to be run by artists.
And commerce for the Oscar niche and the chance of getting money off Oscar does result in aim for higher art.
~rougerum
When was that? Parallel universe? With the exception of maybe United Artists...
there are worth while hollywood films... you just have to look hard enough
Of course there are. Plenty. It's just the town as a whole isn't interested in that. It's a town built around an industry.
Maybe you find Hollywood boring because they try to make their films appeal to as many people in as many cultures as possible. With say, a Japanese film, the filmmakers aren't necessarily trying to appeal to audiences in Norway, so it is a unique experience to watch it. Does this idea hold water or is it a bunch of hooey?
The way Hollywood works is very simple. The producers or investors want to be able to -- though distribution deals and foreign sales -- earn a profit before the film is even shot. They don't take risks. If they can't come up with the right equation they don't make it.
then their equations might not be working right because a lot of movies dont seem to be breaking even on the box office lately
:?
Quote from: Vile5i have flu, and there is not a good movie to watch today (and i don't like watch movies at home, just sometimes)
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Quote from: mutinycoWhen was that? Parallel universe?
i suppose it depends on what youre definition of "artist" is
i dig hollywood alot. and what you critizise it fori can love it for.
I do agree Hollywood is more interested in making money than actually making films. But in my opinion independent films can be just as bad as Hollywood films. Worse even.
Quote from: RaviMaybe you find Hollywood boring because they try to make their films appeal to as many people in as many cultures as possible. With say, a Japanese film, the filmmakers aren't necessarily trying to appeal to audiences in Norway, so it is a unique experience to watch it. Does this idea hold water or is it a bunch of hooey?
Ah, but I feel foreign films appeal to more cultures because they aren't Americanized and a whole helluva lot of them are based around human topics/themes. These are therefore universal films. As we know, many Japanese films have been hailed as "too Japanese" (see: Ozu, Kurosawa) but in fact they can move any audience because of what they're ABOUT. So.. Japanese filmmakers may not try to appeal to Norwegians, but I'm sure they'd enjoy an Asian film or a European film before an American one.
Quote from: CinephileAh, but I feel foreign films appeal to more cultures because they aren't Americanized and a whole helluva lot of them are based around human topics/themes. These are therefore universal films. As we know, many Japanese films have been hailed as "too Japanese" (see: Ozu, Kurosawa) but in fact they can move any audience because of what they're ABOUT. So.. Japanese filmmakers may not try to appeal to Norwegians...
Exactly!!
i don't say make a movie for all kind of audience is bad, i say the way how Hollywood treat its audence
is...
and Japanese films for example (not all of course) are not made just to make money, they want to make: a movie! you know, playing with the atmosphere, with characters, with great actors, with the construction of the script, with an interesting story, with no conventionalism etc etc, what make viewers feel interested for the movie anyway, the public is not always expecting for a
Hollywood Ending...
btw make money with a movie is great! but you must to justify that box office success, especially if that
you is a big studio...
but i know it won't happen in Hollywood, well i mean, not soon
It is hard for me to believe that only Hollywood is out to make money. Making a film is expensive, so the movie industries in any country will try to make a profit. Sure, we often get good films from other countries here in the US, but we're missing out on the crap.
..I generally like H$llyw$$d ..This is how i break it down NEON MERCURY style..
1.0 there are hollywood films that suck
2.0 there are hollywood films that do not suck
3.0 there are non-hollywood films that suck
4.0 there are non-hollywood films that do not suck
5.0 there are foreign films that suck
6.0 there are foreign films that do not suck
7.0 there are silent films that suck
8.0 there are silent films that do not suck
9.0 all of the films directed/written by larry clark and harmony korine suck
hah.
your av is wild ..it makes my eyes do the same damn thing..so i have cover the monitor w/my left hand..