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Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Pas on September 16, 2003, 08:49:39 PM
I recently saw Identity and the people I was with had not even understood what the hell was going on. They tought it was a guy who could transform. Some kind of Lord of the Rings reject. Assholes.

My uncle didn't understand the Ring...he said it was some kind of cheap marketing tool to tell the people never to copy movies. He was even mad at the thing. He was a junkie for more than twenty years though, so I forgive him.

All the people I know who saw Femme Fatale didn't understand it. I knew she would dream her future even before she got in bath (the TV announcer was telling it to us (in french))

The exemples are many...do you have any ?
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: MacGuffin on September 16, 2003, 08:52:34 PM
So this is a thread about how much smarter you are?
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 16, 2003, 09:09:17 PM
Stuff I never understood:

1. Why was Sydney so mad at Jimmy?

2. Why was Scotty always giving Dirk funny looks?

3. What the hell did the falling frogs symbolize?

4. Why were there all those funny flashes of light around Barry?

I guess I just don't understand movies.  :wink:
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Pubrick on September 16, 2003, 09:19:45 PM
So this thread is one of those spoilerful ones i will inevitably click on every time it's updated?

i didn't get LA Confidential the first time. too many names. prolly the reason no one talks about it anymore.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Pas on September 17, 2003, 08:43:30 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinSo this is a thread about how much smarter you are?

I didn't start it like that but I see that's how I made it. Oh well.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 17, 2003, 09:14:07 AM
Quote from: Pi didn't get LA Confidential the first time. too many names. prolly the reason no one talks about it anymore.
Still one of my favorite flicks...I hear ya on the names part thou, as I think it took me a few tiimes through to actually makes senses of who is who.  Officer Bud White is still pretty much my favorite crowe roll to date.

side note...the Goldsmith (I think, right?) score is unbelievable.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: coffeebeetle on September 17, 2003, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
Quote from: Pi didn't get LA Confidential the first time. too many names. prolly the reason no one talks about it anymore.
Still one of my favorite flicks...I hear ya on the names part thou, as I think it took me a few tiimes through to actually makes senses of who is who.  Officer Bud White is still pretty much my favorite crowe roll to date.

side note...the Goldsmith (I think, right?) score is unbelievable.

To stray off topic for just a bit...have you seen The Sum of Us?  Crowe's best performance (as far as range goes) IMHO...but he was also good in L.A. Confidential.  

It took me two watches to get all the names in L.A. Confidential, but that didn't bother me so much.  I was too in love with the dialogue to care the first time around.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: RegularKarate on September 17, 2003, 01:02:25 PM
Quote from: P
i didn't get LA Confidential the first time. too many names. prolly the reason no one talks about it anymore.
Have you read any of Elroy's books?

It took me a while to read White Jazz.  Not just the names that slowed me, but the fact that I hadn't read LA Confidential, the book and didn't know that White Jazz was kind of a sequel... Great book by the way... still haven't read LA Confidential.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Finn on September 17, 2003, 03:03:40 PM
I had a lot of trouble with Mulholland Drive (who didn't?) and I think I figured out Femme Fatale but I still have my questions. I guess I didn't worry about the plot in Hard Eight because it didn't really matter
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: SoNowThen on September 17, 2003, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Quote from: P
i didn't get LA Confidential the first time. too many names. prolly the reason no one talks about it anymore.
Have you read any of Elroy's books?

It took me a while to read White Jazz.  Not just the names that slowed me, but the fact that I hadn't read LA Confidential, the book and didn't know that White Jazz was kind of a sequel... Great book by the way... still haven't read LA Confidential.

read the new trilogy:

American Tabloid, The Cold Six Thousand, and (new book not out yet)...

they'll make your head spin (with names AND brilliance).
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: ©brad on September 17, 2003, 03:19:51 PM
i still don't really understand everything in the first mission impossible.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on September 17, 2003, 04:48:37 PM
No one did. Not even John Woo.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2003, 04:49:35 PM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeNo one did. Not even John Woo.

Then it's a good thing De Palma directed it.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: Sleuth on September 17, 2003, 05:05:49 PM
I think he knew that and meant it as a burn on M:I 2

I understood M:I because I'm like a master genius
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: ©brad on September 17, 2003, 08:23:10 PM
well i think they purposely dumbed down MI2 b/c MI was a little tricky.
Title: Do you ever not understand plot points in a movie ? (spoilin
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2003, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: ©bradi still don't really understand everything in the first mission impossible.

What didn't you understand?