Big Lebowski and Glengarry Glen Ross -- doesn't get any better than this.
I suppose Swingers and Reservoir Dogs can be considered "hip" dialogue, but the top two just blow everything away.
The whole "Chinaman -- Asian American" bit in Lebowski is the pinnacle of the Coens' career...
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I agree with you. The dialogue is so great it's almost frightening. Also the dialogue in the limo!
You mentioned Reservoir Dogs I would rather talk about Pulpfiction. The dialogues between Travolta and Jackson are film-history.
But then again I could mention a 1000 films with fantastic dialogue. I haven't even started talking about PTA and Scorsese....
Quote from: SigurQuote from: SoNowThenBig Lebowski
I agree with you. The dialogue is so great it's almost frightening. Also the dialogue in the limo!
"new shit has come to light" "...privy to the new shit"
:-D
of course Pulp Fiction
here comes one that no one is gonna like
Chasing Amy MOTHA FUCKA!
your avatar shuffle forgives you.
The movie with the bunny had some dandy dialogue.
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Quote from: SoNowThenGlengarry Glen Ross
My personal favorite.
The dialogue is very, oh how should I say it, Mametesque as opposed to Eszterhasesque.
my favorite piece of dialogue is from that movie where the guy is all like "we've done this best of dialogue shit so many fucking times that the next guy who makes a thread about it is going to get a swift kick right in the fucking nuts." great line.
Quote from: Bankyof course Pulp Fiction
here comes one that no one is gonna like
Chasing Amy MOTHA FUCKA!
I'm going to have to agree. I think PTA films have to be mentioned as well (as if they wouldn't have on this site) and I really like Godard's writing.
Billy Wilder, fuckos!
Quote from: MacGuffinBilly Wilder, fuckos!
I really want to see some Billy Wilder stuff. He is one of Cameron Crowe's idols. Whats a good one to start on?
Quote from: BankyQuote from: MacGuffinBilly Wilder, fuckos!
I really want to see some Billy Wilder stuff. He is one of Cameron Crowe's idols. Whats a good one to start on?
You could always go with Some Like It Hot!
Quote from: BankyI really want to see some Billy Wilder stuff. He is one of Cameron Crowe's idols. Whats a good one to start on?
For starters:Sunset Blvd.
Double Indemnity
The Apartment
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: BankyI really want to see some Billy Wilder stuff. He is one of Cameron Crowe's idols. Whats a good one to start on?
For starters:
Sunset Blvd.
Double Indemnity
The Apartment
I'll rent them soon. Thanks McG.
Dogma............................................
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fuck yeah. Fuck all the KS haters.
I like this dialogue they have in the fridge in the Movie Go, I can't quote in detail what they say but I like it that after they were try to figure out a famous guy whose name starts with an X. The stoned one (sorry his name doesn't come to my memory) sees this cat in the dealer's appart and the cat is telling him what he wanted and then ends it with "you're gonna die" I liked those.
Other than that I absolutelly loved that dialogue over life and death Ricky and Jane had in American Beauty.
Humm Dogma? it's in that movie where the silent guy says, he didn't pay the tickets? (sorry only saw that one once! :() if so, that sentence was cool!
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Humm Dogma? it's in that movie where the silent guy says, he didn't pay the tickets? (sorry only saw that one once! :() if so, that sentence was cool!
wow
Dogma is under-rated it's hard to write those ideas ..........for people who know it's a very PRO-CHRISTIAN FILM...which is alway cool......
SATANIC PEOPLE SUCK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: MazokuHumm Dogma? it's in that movie where the silent guy says, he didn't pay the tickets? (sorry only saw that one once! :() if so, that sentence was cool!
You mean, "No ticket!"? I guess it was cool...when it was first said in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade".
Quote from: NEON MERCURYDogma is under-rated it's hard to write those ideas ..........for people who know it's a very PRO-CHRISTIAN FILM...which is alway cool......
SATANIC PEOPLE SUCK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey now, no one likes a jesus freak
..aw come on Mac..it was funny also don't ya think.?
i generally like k-smith.. he is a funny and SMART writer.....
1.0 the first time that i saw clerks and the whole chewlies gum set-up joke was brilliant after that joke i new i was in for something smart and funny...
.......... :arrow: and the joke about randle's uncle dying while him and dante are going to the funeral is freaking hilarious....
Quote from: BankyQuote from: NEON MERCURYDogma is under-rated it's hard to write those ideas ..........for people who know it's a very PRO-CHRISTIAN FILM...which is alway cool......
SATANIC PEOPLE SUCK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hey now, no one likes a jesus freak
...man...i am kidding about that ..but i don't agree with anything satanic people think/believe.....
i am not a Jesus freak either... i just love him.. His Father did create us so i show love et al.
i will stop with the religious talk after all its a sensitive issue...
i bet you dont even know what satanism is
(and no, i am not a satanist)
Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedi bet you dont even know what satanism is
(and no, i am not a satanist)
::tries w/all strenght to close the can of worms::
i am just kidding its supossed to be funny i didn't mean to offend anyone..
and i am not into satanism buit i assume it's someone who worships satan i guess................. its just not for me......
actually, satanism doesnt really have anything to do with worshipping the devil. "satan" in this case is more of a symbol, about mans pursuit of pleasure, and that its this constant pursuit of pleasure that seperates us from the animals (ie: animals will eat because they have to. we humans eat because we have to, but also just for the sake of eating because we like the food. we also get to (somewhat) choose what we want and dont want to eat). unfortunately what i dont get is why satanists have to do everything in excess. for example, they dont have to do drugs, but if one would, one would have to use them in excess.
Awesome :roll: ... it said "brilliance in dialogue", and very clearly stated not "hip" dialogue. Trying to be cool dialogue (which I like most of the time) is a too-cute kinda writing to fit in this category. So Kevin Smith does not belong here. As I said, Tarantino dialogue and the Swingers stuff and Smith, they're a different beast.
We're talking Brilliance here. Like the scene between the two detectives and Fink in Barton Fink.
Damn it....
The funny thing about great dialogue is that the only people intelligent enough to speak that way are the people who write it. Most people are nimrods and couldn't shape their thoughts so eloquently. It's sometimes difficult to accept idiot characters speaking witty dialogue.
Agreed.
But good "dumb" dialogue is wonderful as well.
i actually think its great (if done right of course)
Quote from: SoNowThenAwesome :roll: ... it said "brilliance in dialogue", and very clearly stated not "hip" dialogue. Trying to be cool dialogue (which I like most of the time) is a too-cute kinda writing to fit in this category. So Kevin Smith does not belong here. As I said, Tarantino dialogue and the Swingers stuff and Smith, they're a different beast.
We're talking Brilliance here. Like the scene between the two detectives and Fink in Barton Fink.
Damn it....
sorry but i think that is totall bullshit.
Pulp Ficion is considered to be one of the greatest movies of our time. It was a phenomenon and has been mimicked ever since. THE WHOLE FUCKING MOVIE IS DIAOGUE. To me that is more than just "hip." You dont win oscars for screenplays that just have "dumb characters saying witty things."
I didn't say "dumb characters saying witty things". Just that it seems that there is a very clear line between Coen dialogue and Tarantino dialogue. I guess what I was driving at is the interplay that Mamet and Coen characters have has this amazing beat to it. I dunno.
Like I think Clerks is way better than State and Main, but I think Mamet is far superior in terms of just writing the most brilliant dialogue...
Quote from: SoNowThenI didn't say "dumb characters saying witty things".
mutinyco said something along those lines
so would you say Pulp Fiction is an example of Brilliant Dialogue?[/quote]
not in this case for this thread
but of course Pulp's brilliant. I got into making movies because of Tarantino. I love the guy.
Can we think of any along the lines of my original two?
its friday at 1:30, shouldnt we be in class or at work?haha
Ummm............along those lines....................maybe the plane crash scene in Almost Famous?
I'm probably the one person who thinks Pulp is a bloated, boring waste of time. I prefer Tarantino's early trilogy of True Romance, Natural Born Killers, and Reservoir Dogs. I had read all three -- both TR and NBK before they came out -- so when I read Pulp before it came out it didn't seem to me to be anything new. In fact, I thought it lacked the energy of the first three. I just think that most people weren't familiar with him prior to Pulp, so that's what they love and use as their reference.
if considering Almost Famous i really have to go with the Phillip Seymour Hoffman scenes at the beginning...
also some of the Frances McDormand stuff on it too..
Quote from: mutinycoI'm probably the one person who thinks Pulp is a bloated, boring waste of time. I prefer Tarantino's early trilogy of True Romance, Natural Born Killers, and Reservoir Dogs. I had read all three -- both TR and NBK before they came out -- so when I read Pulp before it came out it didn't seem to me to be anything new. In fact, I thought it lacked the energy of the first three. I just think that most people weren't familiar with him prior to Pulp, so that's what they love and use as their reference.
I wouldn't call it a waste of time, but I certainly have always liked Dogs and Jackie Brown better.
i guess i am taking brilliant to literal....i just answer the question of my opinion of brilliant dialogue..k smiths writings suffice's this ..and i am not a fan boy of him its just that he's a brilliant comedic writer ...
compare chasing amy, clerks, dogma..which is brilliant comedic writing ..
to old school , loser , saving silverman, american pie 2, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ...........do you see the diference??....
true enough, but you picked the shittest comedies...
how about Swingers, Made, Road Trip, hell Lebowski is a comedy. I find those just as funny as Smith, and they actually look good too!
Quote from: SoNowThentrue enough, but you picked the shittest comedies...
how about Swingers, Made, Road Trip, hell Lebowski is a comedy. I find those just as funny as Smith, and they actually look good too!
..true esp.. swingers very under-rated ..but you see what i mean though you mentioned stuf also that i would require brilliant..though there's tons really..
you could say blazing saddles, fast times, naked gun, ..thers lots that i think are brilliant and thats just for the comedies ............good thrread...... :!:
Well, if we're talking dialogue-driven comedies, here's a list of personal favorites that represents a wide swath of film history:
-- His Girl Friday
-- Arsenic and Old Lace
-- Some Like It Hot
-- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
-- Broadcast News
-- Office Space
And for dialogue-driven TV comedy brilliance (not that you asked), just head for Fawlty Towers and Sports Night.
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-- Arsenic and Old Lace
-- Some Like It Hot
-- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
-- Broadcast News
-- Office Space
hey! i've seen all of those, great. anyways, i actually just watched Arsenic and Old Lace last nite and i did not like it. it was really really dark and weird. and although i did like Cary Grants comic performance the movie was not my cup of tea.
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Funny you mention that...From "Pulp Fiction":
1. INT. COFFEE SHOP - MORNING 1.
A normal Denny's, Spires-like coffee shop in Los Angeles.
It's about 9:00 in the morning. While the place isn't jammed,
there's a healthy number of people drinking coffee, munching
on bacon and eating eggs.
Two of these people are a YOUNG MAN and a YOUNG WOMAN. The
Young Man has a slight working-class English accent and, like
his fellow countryman, smokes cigarettes like they're going
out of style.
It is impossible to tell where the Young Woman is from or how
old she is; everything she does contradicts something she did.
The boy and girl sit in a booth.
Their dialogue is to be said
in a rapid-pace "HIS GIRL FRIDAY" fashion.The Coen Bros. also used "His Girl Friday" as the basis for Jennifer Jason Leigh's character in "Hudsucker Proxy".
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Chasing Amy
Couldn't possibly agree more with you! Jason Lee delivers some great lines :-D
But maybe I only agree with you because I wanna fuck your avatar...
Quote from: themodernage02anyways, i actually just watched Arsenic and Old Lace last nite and i did not like it. it was really really dark and weird. and although i did like Cary Grants comic performance the movie was not my cup of tea.
I think it's definitely a bit of an acquired taste. A strange film to be coming out of Warner Bros. in the 1940s. But I guess they figured that with Capra and Grant, it was sure to be a mainstream hit. But it's actually just a big, goofy romp. It's fun, among other things, to see Lorre in a rare comic role.
yeah Lorre seemed as close there to his cartoon persona in the old WB cartoons as i've ever seen him.
Vacation (1983)- Towards the end of the movie- Aunt Edna is dead, the family is ready to mutiny and go home- Rusty claims the whole thing has been a drag- Clark stops the car to address his family-
"I think you're all fucked in the head. We're ten hours from the fucking fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're assholes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Shit! "
written by John Hughes
:-D
That seriously brightened my day.
Yes, that is brilliant fucking dialogue!
"It's gonna be the hap-hap-happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny-fucking-Kaye."
Yeah I think Clark got a good "vent" in each Vacation Movie-
Sorry I like this thread...In movie I recently spoke of Crossroads (1986) Ralph Macchio asks Joe Seneca's character (Willie Brown) something about his harmoinca playing- Willie replies-
"Where I come from you don't blow no harp, you don't get no p*ssy."
written by John Fusco
Quote from: bigpermVacation (1983)- Towards the end of the movie- Aunt Edna is dead, the family is ready to mutiny and go home- Rusty claims the whole thing has been a drag- Clark stops the car to address his family-
"I think you're all fucked in the head. We're ten hours from the fucking fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fucking fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're assholes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Shit! "
written by John Hughes
Another things that makes that scene great is the exasperated look that comes onto Beverly D'Angelo's face the second Clark drops the first F-bomb. That "here we go again look." Absolutely wonderful.
Great dialogue:
Sunset Boulevard: "I'm ready for my close up."
The Searchers: "That'll be the day."
Psycho: "We all go a little crazy sometimes."
Bonnie and Clyde: "We rob banks."
Easy Rider: "We blew it."
Midnight Cowboy: "You callin' John Wayne a faggot?"
Annie Hall: "I did Shakespeare in the park. I got mugged."
Stripes: "I want to party with you, cowboy."
Heathers: "Bulimia is so 87."
Go: The "Confederated Products is not Amway" speech
Office Space: "I was told I could listen to the radio at a reasonable volume."
The Limey: "There's just one thing I don't understand. What I don't understand is every motherfucking word you just said."
Hrrm some excellent examples already, most noticeably "Glengarry Glen Ross," and "True Romance" though I am going to have to agree with Jamie and discount "Pulp Fiction" as a mediocre testament to cinematic dialogue. Granted the whole Zed's dead dialogue and McRoyal with cheese was endearing and comical. I guess my tastes in dialogue would stem from film in which the dialogue was so subtle that I would be forced to re-watch them over and over again to dissect the layers of meaning to them. A couple of my favourites would be "Good Will Hunting" a cliche I'm sure and not particularly challenging from a dissemination point of view but I found that the words used really struck a chord emotionally and lent incredible realism to the overall film. In terms of sheer volume of rapid gritty dialogue that leaves you thinking wow, I'd have to commend "Hurlyburly." You can never go wrong with Spacey or Penn as a delivery mechanism for golden syllogisms. In terms of deep conceptual dialogue that leaves you drawing a blank I'd go with "The Matrix, and Reloaded." People are entitled to knock the Wachowskis as much as they want as intellectual poseurs but I found alot of the borrowed conceptual language ie. 'The Desert of The Real' - Baudrillard, refreshing philosophically and intellectually. In terms of films that are just plain clever with the choice of language that I am constantly amazed I would have to pay homage to films like "Fight Club" and "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" and of course "Seven." Other favourites would be "12 Monkeys" and "Vanilla Sky." I suppose I go for more esoteric plot settings to enrich the words used in a given dialogue. I guess that's why I am not such a huge fan of Tarantino's work, after reading his biography I became a tad disenlightened with his whole notion of stealing dialogues from real life conversations and then not crediting them. But don't get me wrong, I'm no QT basher, I enjoy his movies as much as the next pleb and am honestly looking forward to "Kill Bill," though not as much as "The Brothers Vega."
I'll vote for NETWORK on this one. The Howard Beale character has some of the best monologues I've ever read.
EVERYTHING about Network rocks. Just a straight-up brilliantly conceived and executed picture.
Quote from: mutinycoEVERYTHING about Network rocks. Just a straight-up brilliantly conceived and executed picture.
um yes.
..there are some brilliantly bad dialogue too...
1.0 Gone Fish'n
2.0 Double Dragon
3.0 Jack Frost 1 and Jack Frost 2
4.0 Top Gun
5.0 All of the entire Elm Street Films
Quote from: NEON MERCURY..there are some brilliantly bad dialogue too...
You're right:
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Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: NEON MERCURY..there are some brilliantly bad dialogue too...
You're right:
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:oops: ...you got me...but its been a while for me... :wink:
Seinfeld. :(
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Oh yeah, a couple of examples.
The Pony Remark.
Jerry: Horses. They're like big riding dogs.
Elaine: What about ponies, huh? What kind of abnormal animal is that?
And those kids who had their own ponies . . . .
Jerry: Oh, I know. I hated those kids. In fact, I hate anyone that ever
had a pony when they were growing up.
Manya: I had a pony.
Jerry: Well, I didn't--uh--really mean a pony per se--
Manya: Vhen I vas a little girl in Poland, ve all had ponies. My sister
had pony. My cousin had pony. So what's wrong with that?
Jerry: Nothing. Nothing at all. I was just merely expressing--
Mrs. Seinfeld: Should we have . . . some coffee? Who's having coffee?
Manya: He was a beautiful pony. And I loved him.
Jerry: Well, I'm sure you did. Who wouldn't love a pony? Who wouldn't
love a person that had a pony?
Manya: You! You said so!
Jerry: No. See, we didn't have ponies. I'm sure at that time in Poland
they were very common. They were . . . probably like compact cars.
Manya: That's it. I had enough.
{Exit Manya.}
Isaac: Have your coffee everybody. She's a little upset. It's been an
emotional day.
{Exit Isaac. Now for Jerry's finale.}
I didn't know she had a pony. How was I to know she had a pony? Who
figures an immigrant's going to have a pony? Do you know what the odds
are on that? I mean in all the pictures I saw of immigrants on boats,
comin' in to New York Harbor, I never saw one of them sittin' on a pony.
W-why would anyone come here if they had a pony? Who leaves a country
packed with ponies to come to a non-pony country? It doesn't make sense. Am I wrong?
The Stand in.
KRAMER & MICKEY: Rock, paper, scissors match.
MICKEY: all right, rock beats paper.
(Mickey smacks Kramer on the hand for losing)
KRAMER: I thought paper covered rock?
MICKEY: Nah, rock flies right through paper.
KRAMER: What beats rock?
MICKEY: (looks at his hand) Nothing beats rock.
KRAMER: all right come on.
KRAMER & MICKEY: Rock, paper, scissors match.
KRAMER: Rock.
MICKEY: Rock.
Don't beat me but...American Werewolf in London has some of the greatest dialogue I have had the pleasure of listening to. :oops:
The Shawshank Redemption...the chess scene between Andy and Red...I won't trash it by trying to paraphrase it. I apologize for not having the dialogue in front of me.
Quote from: coffeebeetle24The Shawshank Redemption...the chess scene between Andy and Red...I won't trash it by trying to paraphrase it. I apologize for not having the dialogue in front of me.
do you mean this?
RED
King me.
ANDY
Chess. Now there's a game of kings.
Civilized...strategic...
RED
...and totally fuckin'
inexplicable. Hate that game.
ANDY
Maybe you'll let me teach you
someday. I've been thinking of
getting a board together.
RED
You come to the right place. I'm
the man who can get things.
ANDY
We might do business on a board. But
the pieces, I'd like to carve those
myself. One side done in quartz...
the opposing side in limestone.
RED
That'd take you years.
ANDY
Years I've got. What I don't have
are the rocks. Pickings here in the
exercise yard are pretty slim.
RED
How's that rock-hammer workin' out
anyway? Scratch your name on your
wall yet?
ANDY
(smiles)
Not yet. I suppose I should.
RED
Andy? I guess we're gettin' to be
friends, ain't we?
ANDY
I suppose we are.
RED
I ask a question? Why'd you do it?
ANDY
I'm innocent, remember? Just like
everybody else here.
Red takes this as a gentle rebuff, keeps playing.
ANDY
What are you in for, Red?
RED
Murder. Same as you.
ANDY
Innocent?
RED
The only guilty man in Shawshank.[/size]
either way it's great.
Bingo. Thanks man.
Quote from: The Dude in The Big LebowskiWe...the royal we...the editorial...
I rank The Big Lebowski as no. 1 when it comes to dialogue.