Punch Drunk Love is really starting to kick in here, I've read three interviews in the papers this morning with PTA.
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Interview: Paul Thomas Anderson
A simple little movie? Paul Thomas Anderson tells Ryan Gilbey how he came to beat up romance
Picture the scene. An awkward young man has finally plucked up the courage to make a move on the woman he adores. He has followed her from Los Angeles to Hawaii, where she has been gradually seduced by his goofball charm. They embrace on the bed in her hotel room, and begin exchanging sweet nothings. Him: "Your face is so beautiful, I just wanna smash it, just smash it with a sledgehammer and squeeze it." Her: "I just wanna chew your face and scoop out your beautiful eyes with an ice-cream scooper and eat 'em and chew 'em and suck on 'em."
Not words that are likely to appear on a Hallmark card. Perhaps Paul Thomas Anderson, the film-maker behind Punch-Drunk Love, from which this scene is taken, would care to explain? "Haven't you ever felt like that, man?" he giggles. "I know I have. I've said it, too. It's like when you look at a kitten or a puppy and you think: I wanna kick the shit out of that little thing, it's so damn cute!" We have quickly established that Paul Thomas Anderson should be nobody's first choice for dog-sitter, and that Punch-Drunk Love, his fourth film as writer-director, is an unorthodox species of love story. But what else do we know about him? He started out as plain Paul Anderson, before promoting his middle name to distinguish himself from a British namesake. In so doing he joined the ranks of other notable PTs: PT Barnum, and PT Selbit, who, he proudly tells me, invented the trick of sawing a woman in half.
Anderson began making movies on his dad's video camera when he was a 12-year-old in the San Fernando valley. He later enrolled in a film course at NYU, following in the footsteps of Martin Scorsese (who has, along with Robert Altman, Jonathan Demme and Mike Figgis, become an Anderson devotee). Three days later, he quit and used his refunded tuition fees to hang out in New York. In time, he got some short films under his belt and, in 1995, talked his way into directing Hard Eight, a Mamet-esque thriller that made the casinos of Las Vegas seem as brutal as the arenas of ancient Rome. "I must've been a real smooth talker to get the money for that movie," he muses now. "I guess my phoney confidence got me through."
He is, to put it bluntly, a pipsqueak. You look at this 31-year-old Californian, with his immaculately untidy hair, and it's difficult to square his appearance with the movies that have earned him a reputation as the future, not to say the present, of American cinema. Boogie Nights, a dark and sprawling comedy about the porn industry, and Magnolia, a multistory epic about LA's lost and loveless starring Tom Cruise and Julianne Moore, are mighty works by any standard: not only long in their running times, but bloated with characters, detail and ambition.
By contrast, Anderson is as thin as the cigarettes he greedily ploughs through. Today he is wearing black trousers and a black sweater, with a red T-shirt and red socks occasionally peeping out from beneath his dour uniform. A burgeoning goatee struggles to make its presence felt on a face already peppered with stubble. He seems naturally cheery and is much given to imaginative swearing. And when he signs my copy of the Punch-Drunk Love script, he fills the title page with assorted doodles and inscriptions. He is, refreshingly, a rather excitable sort.
After Boogie Nights and Magnolia, many viewers will think they know what to expect from a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. They should think again. Anderson himself did. Going into Punch-Drunk Love, he ditched most of the actors who had comprised his unofficial repertory company since Hard Eight and set about conceiving a modest little story as an antidote to the monstrous Magnolia.
"With Magnolia, I had intended to make something small," he says, clearly aware this is akin to walking into the showroom looking for a Cinquecento and driving out in a tank. "As you can see, it didn't work out that way. I was a madman making that movie. I put too much pressure on myself, and I was not the person I wanted to be. So with Punch-Drunk Love I forced myself to be more compact."
At just over 90 minutes, the new movie is half the length of Magnolia, and a good deal more charming. It concerns a love affair between the repressed boss of a toilet-plunger factory and a fragrant Englishwoman who drifts like perfume into smoggy LA and into his life. The odd couple are Adam Sandler, the offbeat comedian best known for The Wedding Singer, and Emily Watson, an actress usually associated with prestige projects like Gosford Park and Hilary and Jackie. Chalk and cheese doesn't begin to suggest the clash of styles. But then that's why Punch-Drunk Love is such a knockout. It's like a movie made in a whole new language, from the bizarre opening sequence in which Sandler discovers a harmonium in the deserted dawn streets of LA, to some unsettling business in which he is terrorised by a phone-sex worker and her bullyboy stooges, through to the rhapsodic ending. It's a romance all right — but not as we know it.
"I tried to make this simple little movie," says Anderson, "but sometimes simplicity can be so complicated. That's why it was good for Emily and me to work with Adam. He's so natural, he just shows up ready for work, whereas Emily and I tend to crawl up our own asses! It's all about learning that whatever you did the first time was probably right. You don't have to do everything 50 times and then twist a corkscrew around it just to be sure."
In pruning back his bombastic tendencies, Anderson seems to have made a picture that's closer to his own feelings and experiences. As well as that splendidly unsentimental love scene, the movie's phone-sex subplot is also drawn partly from his life: as a teenager he was a regular caller to XXX-rated chat lines. "I think those things can be a turn-on," he admits, "if only because of how strange and distant it all is. If you can actually connect with the woman on the phone, then it becomes exciting. When that happens, it can be special. You almost feel like you're beating the system, taking this sleazy setup and making a real human connection."
Probably the biggest autobiographical streak in the movie comes in the form of the hero's aggressive tendencies, which Anderson confesses once formed a large part of his own personality. "I was prone to fits of violence," he says. "It's scary when I look back at it. What did I think I was achieving? Most days I used to feel like I wanted to kill someone. Now I'm past that. When I hit 30, it was like a switch went in my head — everything calmed down."
For all their vitality, Anderson's previous films have been very much "movie movies", driven more by technical prowess than life. Hard Eight was an exercise in calcified film noir. Boogie Nights was all but saturated in stylishness. Magnolia sometimes felt like a compilation of weighty, melodramatic Oscar scenes; if you missed one emotional catharsis, it didn't matter, there would be another along in a few minutes. But Punch-Drunk Love is, as Anderson concedes, the first film he has made that is entirely his. "This one came from my stomach," he says, laying a hand on his abdomen. "It's referenceless. When you start out, you latch onto other movies, other styles, to help you get across what you're trying to say. But this one is mine somehow — all mine — and I'm proud of that."
Punch-Drunk Love opens on Friday
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I think with PDL PTA has really come into his own now as far as a definitive style. You can watch Boogie Nights and say oh that's Scorsese or Magnolia and say that's a lot of Altman, but with PDL I can say "that's a PTA shot!"
Where is it gonna show, though? I'm afraid that the poor Box office in America is going to prove fatal.
Contrasting opinions, too, of whether PTA is going to pull through. An article in Sight & Sound thinks he's at a crucial point where he's going to feel the heat re: selling out a bit, and since no one can imagine him doing that, what then? A bitter and twisted future? A short piece in The Guardian suggests that he's by no means finished, and that we'll all be fondly waiting for and watching his movies in 30 years' time. I had a conversation about this with a friend and we were inconclusive.
Maybe the Sandler casting was just a bit too out there?
I dont think pta will sell out at all. If anything i think he'll pull back and just make cheaper movies, like Altman. Just make the movies he wants to make, cheaper, and then one of them will just break through, and he'll be able to do anything he wants. And this cycle may happen a few times in his career, where hes the hottest thing in hollywood, then kind of independent, then back on top a few years later. Its probably a lot healthier than being "The New Steven Speilberg" where you have all that pressure and paparazzi bullshit going on all the time.
Quote from: budgieWhere is it gonna show, though?
Hope this is accurate:
http://www.odeon.co.uk/pls/Odeon/Odeon_general.film_x?FILM=punch_drunk_love
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: budgieWhere is it gonna show, though?
Hope this is accurate:
http://www.odeon.co.uk/pls/Odeon/Odeon_general.film_x?FILM=punch_drunk_love
That makes me sad.
I mean just look at Sandlers character name - ''Barry Evan''. sigh.
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I mean just look at Sandlers character name - ''Barry Evan''. sigh.
You brits have been trying to change his name since day 1.
Please go see PDL......
Quote from: LesterI dont think pta will sell out at all. If anything i think he'll pull back and just make cheaper movies, like Altman. Just make the movies he wants to make, cheaper, and then one of them will just break through, and he'll be able to do anything he wants. And this cycle may happen a few times in his career, where hes the hottest thing in hollywood, then kind of independent, then back on top a few years later. Its probably a lot healthier than being "The New Steven Speilberg" where you have all that pressure and paparazzi bullshit going on all the time.
Hmm, we are talking about the same Paul Thomas Anderson? The only that got his final cut on both Boogie Nights and Magnolia? The one that made a 3-hour movie with a frog rainstorm at the end and managed to get it in wide release? It seems to me like the man already gets what he wants.
Give the man some credit. So his movies don't turn huge profits. Boogie Nights did make money. With international grosses plus video rentals PTA movies do just fine. Plus they are usually critics darlings that win lots of awards and studios like that.
How many flops did Altman make in his career? He is still going strong with some 80 movies. It's not all about the money folks...
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Please go see PDL......
Duck, I had it all planned out, seeing it several times with the added pleasure that the box office guy starts giving me cheap tickets, posters and frames of the movie like with The Royal Tenenbaums (actually, that got a little worrying...) but
I'm denied!Tottenham Court Road is a good auditorium though. Maybe the Southampton Odeon will have it tucked away on a late show for a couple of nights, if I'm lucky... :puppydogeyes:
My counties 'whats on' magazine had a full page, glowing review of punch drunk love with a big photo, and out of the ten cinema's timetables listed below the review.....NONE were showing it this weekend.
Oh but Final Destination 2's on if you fancy it.
Quote from: redlum"With Magnolia, I had intended to make something small," he says, clearly aware this is akin to walking into the showroom looking for a Cinquecento and driving out in a tank. "As you can see, it didn't work out that way. I was a madman making that movie. I put too much pressure on myself, and I was not the person I wanted to be. So with Punch-Drunk Love I forced myself to be more compact."
For all their vitality, Anderson's previous films have been very much "movie movies", driven more by technical prowess than life. Hard Eight was an exercise in calcified film noir. Boogie Nights was all but saturated in stylishness. Magnolia sometimes felt like a compilation of weighty, melodramatic Oscar scenes; if you missed one emotional catharsis, it didn't matter, there would be another along in a few minutes. But Punch-Drunk Love is, as Anderson concedes, the first film he has made that is entirely his. "This one came from my stomach," he says, laying a hand on his abdomen. "It's referenceless. When you start out, you latch onto other movies, other styles, to help you get across what you're trying to say. But this one is mine somehow — all mine — and I'm proud of that."
That's so weird hearing him talk about Magnolia like that. God. I mean, it's my favorite of all of them...I guess it just makes me feel sort of weird that it's not his.
But I guess, filmmaking-wise (well, actually, PTA-wise): he loves the newest one out of the gate. They just get better and better.
Quote"I have a feeling, one of those gut feelings, that I'll make pretty good movies the rest of my life... but I guess the way that I really feel is that Magnolia is, for better or worse, the best movie I'll ever make." - Paul Thomas Anderson
Yay.
Quote from: budgieA bitter and twisted future
Sounds good to me... :yabbse-undecided:
Quote from: JonThat's so weird hearing him talk about Magnolia like that. God. I mean, it's my favorite of all of them...I guess it just makes me feel sort of weird that it's not his.
Don't believe him... he's more original than he thinks he is.
edit: Ohh! My 382nd post!
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Don't believe him... he's more original than he thinks he is.
I feel like sometimes it's false modesty. I guess it doesn't even matter as long as he still makes amazing films.
Quote from: redlumPunch Drunk Love is really It's like when you look at a kitten or a puppy and you think: I wanna kick the shit out of that little thing, it's so damn cute!".
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Punch Drunk Love is really It’s like when you look at a kitten or a puppy and you think: I wanna kick the shit out of that little thing, it’s so damn cute!”
does anyone else think that is the best of the deleted material from the script, when barry talks about that?
Quote from: fultyQuote from: redlumPunch Drunk Love is really It's like when you look at a kitten or a puppy and you think: I wanna kick the shit out of that little thing, it's so damn cute!" quote]
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That's actually what it says in the original script, if you have it, during the "I wanna eat your eye balls" scene.
Quote from: Lesterdoes anyone else think that is the best of the deleted material from the script, when barry talks about that?
my favorite line from the script - that didn't make it on screen -
"does Jack like to Jack-off?"
¡¡fucking Hilarious..!! :twisted:
QuoteI feel like sometimes it's false modesty.
False modesty is a beautiful thing.
molse fadesty;; only what people persee, not see
that's what's important. punch punch punch
"he wears tan shoes with pink shoelaces (a polka dot vest)"
That smashing the puppy thing is definitely the best thing that was deleted. When I saw the scene it didnt do much for me, but with the reference to the puppy I would have loved it. I always get that feeling too.
and I could have sworn that she did say does jack like to jack off.
I remember watching it and not liking that line.
also, he said Magnolia was from the gut too in the intro to the magnolia script. but I know what he means, in that PDL was more him just flowing and not keeping everything tight and not relying too much on influences (although he said Tati was a major influence)
Man, this guy is like the Bible!
too, I've thought about the whole Altman and other older directors have made movies that were poorly received compared to PTA doing the same. and it seems like 30 years ago if you made a movie that didnt do well the studio would still support you and it would have a few years in the theatre, whereas today if it doesn't make half of it's budget back in the first week it's immediately considered a failure and you have to bow down to suits.
and what's with Limited releases or "build-up" releases? I still cant get over how stupid that shit is.
And how the HELL did PDL cost $25 million? Magnolia cost $37 million and it's got a million trillion things in it. PDL has what?; A warehouse, two car wrecks and a trip to Hawaii. I do like it alot though.
Quote from: BigBadDeathAnd how the HELL did PDL cost $25 million?
1- on phone sex line all night long.
2- 50 takes before getting "smash bathroom to bits" right.
I remember reading an article on scorsese and he was making fun of other directors who do insane amounts of takes. Now I've never made a film before, but it seems to me that if a director has to do 50 takes of a certain part either the actors don't know their lines and are struggling/fucking up OR the director doesn't know what he/she wants. It's pretty fucking self-indulgent and a waste of money if you ask me.
Quote from: cbrad4dif a director has to do 50 takes.
Sorry Bradford, I was only joking.
That was just my lame attempt to be like David Letterman.
Quote from: cbrad4dIt's pretty fucking self-indulgent and a waste of money if you ask me.
except if youre kubrick.
yeah, but ive read shit on kubrick and one reason he said he does a lot of takes is because the actors dont know their shit, and it takes them to like take 20 until they finally know the lines. then they're not struggling to remember them and can try out new stuff. that makes sense i guess.
No. I watched to Kubrick DVD documentary where Sydney Pollack was talking about shooting his scenes in Eyes Wide Shut. How Kubrick wanted the actors to try out every possibility of the scene and get the most out of it. Kubrick I think did it for the actors. Look at how freaked out Shelley Duvall gets at Kubrick while filming the Shining in the documentary then look at the freaked out performance she gives. She looks so tired and crazed and it all works. A director should find a method that works for him/her and stick to it. Fuck whether you're being self-indulgent or not, if you can get away with it and you prefer working that way, go for it.
Quote from: bonanzatazA director should find a method that works for him/her and stick to it. Fuck whether you're being self-indulgent or not, if you can get away with it and you prefer working that way, go for it.
Ahhman brother bonanzataz. I'm down for whatever makes the film work. One take or 50 takes...fuck it, whatever makes the scene work.
BTW....
Quote from: cbrad4dKill them, kill all the LoTR hates on the board.
But they're our friends.
No, they're not. There endless inane comments are driving us mad.
Yes....yes, you're right.
Kill them in their sleep...
fookin' brilliant man
Quote from: cbrad4dKill them, kill all the LoTR hates haters on the board.
But they're our friends.
No, they're not. There Their endless inane comments are driving us mad.
Yes....yes, you're right.
Kill them in their sleep...
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: cbrad4dKill them, kill all the LoTR hates haters on the board.
But they're our friends.
No, they're not. There Their endless inane comments are driving us mad.
Yes....yes, you're right.
Kill them in their sleep...
Yeah because the Gollum was a stickler for spelling.