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Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: luctruff on September 07, 2003, 02:25:35 PM
I realize there is probably a coen brothers thread out there and macguffin will probably get me on this, but goddamn the search engine never works well with me, so the hell with it....

what do you guys think of the coen brothers?  i can watch "Barton Fink" and "Fargo" and be convinced that they're genius, but then another much loved film by them, "The Big Lebowski" will make me think they're just making films that they know people will like....is it really that good of a movie if you're not stoned, come on?  I think they just really know how to make a movie that everyone will consider genius....maybe that makes them brilliant....but are they that great?  they certainly are a heavily influenced couple, ie pta and tarantino, but pta has more emotion and tarantino has more wit and charm....i'm just rambling on now, maybe you guys can find a question in here.....good day
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: RegularKarate on September 07, 2003, 02:36:41 PM
Haha... there is an entire Forrum for the Brothers, welcome to it.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: luctruff on September 07, 2003, 02:41:10 PM
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Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: luctruff on September 07, 2003, 02:45:41 PM
you
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Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on September 07, 2003, 02:51:47 PM
I really like the Coen Brothers.
Title: Re: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 07, 2003, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: luctruffI realize there is probably a coen brothers thread out there and macguffin will probably get me on this, but goddamn the search engine never works well with me, so the hell with it....

I don't get what you're asking. If it's what do we think about the Coen Bros., then go through the rest of the forum that is dedicated entirely to their films; each film having their own thread and other discussions. You don't need a search engine; just scroll down the list of topics in their forum.

EDIT: I see now, this was originally in the Directors' Forum. Try visiting here:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=22
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: RegularKarate on September 07, 2003, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: luctruffyou
guys
can
stop
being
dictators
and
allow
me
to
post
as
i
will,
right?
what
is
this
anyway?

What?  Did you pour beer on yourself as well?
Title: Re: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 07, 2003, 03:08:20 PM
Quote from: luctruffI realize there is probably a coen brothers thread out there and macguffin will probably get me on this, but goddamn the search engine never works well with me, so the hell with it....

what do you guys think of the coen brothers?  i can watch "Barton Fink" and "Fargo" and be convinced that they're genius, but then another much loved film by them, "The Big Lebowski" will make me think they're just making films that they know people will like....is it really that good of a movie if you're not stoned, come on?  I think they just really know how to make a movie that everyone will consider genius....maybe that makes them brilliant....but are they that great?  they certainly are a heavily influenced couple, ie pta and tarantino, but pta has more emotion and tarantino has more wit and charm....i'm just rambling on now, maybe you guys can find a question in here.....good day

For the record, I have seen The Big Lebowski four times, NEVER when stoned.

And I enjoyed it all four times.

What's wrong with making movies people enjoy? "The Big Lebowski" isn't going to solve the world's problems, but it's going to be remembered as a fun flick a lot longer than, say, (oh gosh, I'm about to offend someone) ... "Maid in Manhattan."
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: cine on September 07, 2003, 04:29:33 PM
i don't know if they're GREAT themselves.. but they're great with handling the style of their films.
"Fargo" is their best film overall though. Everything is brilliantly done.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: Weak2ndAct on September 08, 2003, 01:31:37 AM
Cheap answer: sure, they're that great.

And as for Lebowski: read some Hammett and Chandler, see some old detective flicks and you'll see that they're doing a wonderful parody-- not just a *stoner* movie.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: Pubrick on September 08, 2003, 09:32:20 AM
this thread is the definition of redundant.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: mutinyco on September 08, 2003, 11:04:53 AM
this thread is the definition of reduntant.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on September 08, 2003, 12:06:37 PM
mutinyco, that was the wrong thing to say.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: ©brad on September 08, 2003, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: luctruffyou
guys
can
stop
being
dictators
and
allow
me
to
post
as
i
will,
right?
what
is
this
anyway?

its just hard to take this seriously
when
u
post  
like
this.

in fact, i'm laughing my ass off as we speak, no offense.
Title: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: luctruff on September 11, 2003, 02:46:56 AM
Okay, new keyboard and finally i have a way to defend myself, although i usually don't care to do so, since i don't care for myself that much and he's on his own and doesn't need me to look after him....
the reason the typing was in a column was because everytime i hit spacebar on my keyboard, it went to the next line....not trying to take up space....and obviously if i spilled beer on my keyboard, it can be said that i had been drinking a good bit that night...so i'm sure my question didn't come out the way it played out in my head..(surely i'm not the only person who takes premature action from rambling thoughts)...i suppose i wanted to ask something along the lines of if they are worthy of being called brilliant, which i've heard them called before, and it no doubt has to do with your defition of brilliant...but to me, they're brilliant in a techinical, film school way...in a way that you can learn filmmaking from a book....by the way, i'm not completely ignorant on this, i've been to film school and it was the best possible way to waste money....and honestly, i do like the coen brothers ....perhaps my thread could have had more to do with the term brilliance in regard to filmmakers, etc.....so there, that's all i have to say, and forgive my utterly pointless thread...i hope we can all be friends some day...
Title: Re: coen brothers--brilliant, but how?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 03, 2003, 04:07:24 AM
Quote from: luctruffwhat do you guys think of the coen brothers?  i can watch "Barton Fink" and "Fargo" and be convinced that they're genius, but then another much loved film by them, "The Big Lebowski" will make me think they're just making films that they know people will like....is it really that good of a movie if you're not stoned, come on?  

Well, dear friend, let me tell you that I haven't seen my buddies dying face in the mud to hear such things !
Believe it or not, but The Big Lebowski is a bit much more than a drug-addict movie... For me (who, I swear on my own head, had never been stoned) this is a subtle (yes, I said it) movie, wonderfully written (if you think I'm jealous, you're absolutely right !)
Just watch it as, let's say, the Maltese Falcon of the 90's...

Am I wrong ?  :wink: