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Film Discussion => Digital Streams & Criterion Dreams => Topic started by: jasper_window on August 26, 2003, 08:46:02 AM

Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: jasper_window on August 26, 2003, 08:46:02 AM
http://www.davisdvd.com/News/daily_news.htm

Fucking great!  Underrated, practically unseen excellent movie.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: Cecil on August 26, 2003, 09:19:08 AM
cool. i like the score
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: jasper_window on August 26, 2003, 12:24:07 PM
me too.  I love the car chase and how they drop the sound inside the car except for their breathing.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: Ernie on August 26, 2003, 09:15:05 PM
Yea, I've been wanting to see this one for awhile. I think since I read about it in "Scorsese on Scorsese"...anything mentioned by that man deserves a chance.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: SoNowThen on August 27, 2003, 10:01:07 AM
I love this movie, but anybody else find Dafoe's performance is way overrated? Supporters always talk about him, but I find it's the two cops that carry all of my interest...
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: jasper_window on August 27, 2003, 12:02:11 PM
Yeah dafoe is good, but he's not exceptional by any means.  Willima Peterson and John Pankow carry it.  Peterson is great, man, I was really glad to see him make a comeback with CSI.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: soixante on August 27, 2003, 11:59:04 PM
I've been waiting for this one.  Can't believe it was 18 years ago when it came out.  It's not as good as French Connection, but what cop movie is?  I also recall the film was visually inspired by Miami Vice, along with the synthesized score.  Friedkin, at the time of the film's release, said that William Peterson was better than Newman and/or Redford, and said the car chase in L.A. improved upon the famous chase in French Connection.  Wrong on both counts, still, this is a film I am eager to revisit, as I haven't seen it since the Reagan Era.  It came out a month or so after Michael Cimino's cop movie, Year of the Dragon, which should be put on DVD as well.  Another macho cop/detective movie from the same era, 8 Million Ways to Die, needs to be put on DVD as well.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: modage on January 24, 2004, 10:22:17 PM
i just watched this movie, it was TERRIBLE?!?! like, i want to put it on again, now that i know how terrible it is, so i can laugh all the way through it.  the writing, the direction and goddamn THE ACTING was all just lame as all hell.  so unbelievable, it was like they were 'play acting'.  and the damn wang chung was so dated it made me puke!  what the hell happened to every good 70's director in the 80's? here is your answer.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: SoNowThen on January 25, 2004, 12:32:05 AM
Yes, but the chase scene and the crazy ending (and all of Turturro's scenes) make it worthwhile.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: soixante on January 25, 2004, 01:09:31 PM
I thought the coolest thing in the movie was showing how Dafoe made counterfeit bills -- in the days before Photoshop and color copy machines.  Since Dafoe was an artist, he mixed paint on his palette, getting just the shade of green he wanted.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: nix on January 26, 2004, 10:41:07 AM
It's got it's cheesy 80s moments, but I think this is a truly great film. A cool, gritty cop drama. They don't make 'em like this anymore.
Title: To Live and Die in L.A.
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on January 28, 2004, 04:04:23 AM
Bought it last month. Saw it last week... at last. I've been hearing about this movie for so long and I liked it a lot. But I think there is a major issue with this movie, something that seems to plague almost all movies of that decade : THE GODDAMN SCORE ! Now I know there was somebody out there worse than tangerine dream and Giorgio Moroder combined and Friedkin had to pick them (or did he ? I read in an interview that he had to make a lot of compromises with the producers, I kinda hoped this was one of them...)