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Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 01:20:03 PM
ok here it is im gonna defend glitter a movie that was shit on by 99% of the people who have never even seen it

the reason people wanted to hate it is, mariah has that perfect fake pop happy image then she goes nuts that summer so people got happy

and the film was doomed since day one

i didnt want to see it but my girl did and ya know what, not great but not bad, and it had one perfect thing in it but later for that


purple rain is one of my fav films ever, so i like these kinda films this is not as cool as purple rain, but this would be the sort of film i would watch when i was 15 on a saturday aftenoon on channell 20

just a harmless film about a chick who wants to make it, not one single really embaressing moment

ok now to the perfect part , the guy in the movie who plays her boyfriend record producer

He fucking nailed that part, he played a music fanatic with dreams of making it so perfect

he was one of us, cept were movie fans who want to make movies

him it was music and he plays it so real

ever try and explain to your girlfriend with such passion why you love a scene in a movie

he does this in the film, he shows her all his favorite instruments, and they are not gay ass generic hollywood guitars, he shows her timbalays and stuff and tells her about how quincy jones got started in the biz and thats his hero and he wants to be just like him

the guy is played by Max Beesley and he was really fucking good in the movie, and i know snobs will turn their noses up but too fucking bad while your wasteing your time watching some un watchable preteniouce art film, here is a film that has some great stuff in it, but i really wish you guys could see those scenes with him, he played it perfect

a music fanatic who someday wants to be a stara nd he has the talent and the drive to do it, yet he is still star struck by great music and not jaded

he is the kind of guy who would dig in a crate and find a old lost stevie wonder song and flip out even if he is wearing a rolex

thats why i liked the film

Max Beesley
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 02:22:17 PM
i knew you snobs would ignore this but know this Max Beesley in this film, puts to shame the entire film high fidelity when it comes to music fanatics

jack black singing lets get it on, gee isnt that song WAYYYYY Played out

every fucking movie when a sex scene comes out they use it, in the animal rob schneider goes to fuck a goat and that song plays , and in crossroads britney uses it

and that movie where neve campell thinks matthew perry is gay , they use it

i have more examples of that song being played out, great song but i would never use it in a movie, or EVER in a movie about guys who are " music fanatics"

i would tell you the right song to use but im saving it for myself

lets get it on, so played out


i guess when somone like PTA name drops Max Beesley in glitter for being great , you guys will change history and say you loved him way back when
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on August 18, 2003, 02:24:24 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi knew you snobs would ignore this but know this Max Beesley in this film, puts to shame the entire film high fidelity when it comes to music fanatics

jack black singing lets get it on, gee isnt that song WAYYYYY Played out

every fucking movie when a sex scene comes out they use it, in the animal rob schneider goes to fuck a goat and that song plays , and in crossroads britney uses it

and that movie where neve campell thinks matthew perry is gay , they use it

i have more examples of that song being played out, great song but i would never use it in a movie, or EVER in a movie about guys who are " music fanatics"

i would tell you the right song to use but im saving it for myself

lets get it on, so played out


i guess when somone like PTA name drops Max Beesley in glitter for being great , you guys will change history and say you loved him way back when

Hate to burst your bubble, but no I wouldn't.  Max Beesley sucks ass and so does Glitter.  But I won't trash you preferences....it is, after all, an opinion.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Pas on August 18, 2003, 02:24:32 PM
I hate it when people pretend they like shitty stuff to seem "cooler than cool"
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Ghostboy on August 18, 2003, 02:27:58 PM
I watched Glitter, and it's awesome in its cheesiness and funny and all and worthwhile for some laughs, but it's also no good. It's no 'Purple Rain' by a damn sight (I know you said it wasn't on the same level, but still...Mariah vs. Prince? Please). Max Beesley struck me as nothing more than a competent actor earning a paycheck. I honestly don't even remember what he looks like.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on August 18, 2003, 02:28:41 PM
Yeah! Kick ass av is back!
Still not as cool as your very first one tho.....
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 02:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi knew you snobs would ignore this but know this Max Beesley in this film, puts to shame the entire film high fidelity when it comes to music fanatics

jack black singing lets get it on, gee isnt that song WAYYYYY Played out

every fucking movie when a sex scene comes out they use it, in the animal rob schneider goes to fuck a goat and that song plays , and in crossroads britney uses it

and that movie where neve campell thinks matthew perry is gay , they use it

i have more examples of that song being played out, great song but i would never use it in a movie, or EVER in a movie about guys who are " music fanatics"

i would tell you the right song to use but im saving it for myself

lets get it on, so played out


i guess when somone like PTA name drops Max Beesley in glitter for being great , you guys will change history and say you loved him way back when

Hate to burst your bubble, but no I wouldn't.  Max Beesley sucks ass and so does Glitter.  But I won't trash you preferences....it is, after all, an opinion.

have you seen the movie, and based on your past opinions if you said you liked him he would of done something wrong

your worthless here
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: GhostboyI watched Glitter, and it's awesome in its cheesiness and funny and all and worthwhile for some laughs, but it's also no good. It's no 'Purple Rain' by a damn sight (I know you said it wasn't on the same level, but still...Mariah vs. Prince? Please). Max Beesley struck me as nothing more than a competent actor earning a paycheck. I honestly don't even remember what he looks like.

re watch the scenes where he talks about his love of music its so great and real and not fake in a hollywood way
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on August 18, 2003, 02:38:32 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi knew you snobs would ignore this but know this Max Beesley in this film, puts to shame the entire film high fidelity when it comes to music fanatics

jack black singing lets get it on, gee isnt that song WAYYYYY Played out

every fucking movie when a sex scene comes out they use it, in the animal rob schneider goes to fuck a goat and that song plays , and in crossroads britney uses it

and that movie where neve campell thinks matthew perry is gay , they use it

i have more examples of that song being played out, great song but i would never use it in a movie, or EVER in a movie about guys who are " music fanatics"

i would tell you the right song to use but im saving it for myself

lets get it on, so played out


i guess when somone like PTA name drops Max Beesley in glitter for being great , you guys will change history and say you loved him way back when

Hate to burst your bubble, but no I wouldn't.  Max Beesley sucks ass and so does Glitter.  But I won't trash you preferences....it is, after all, an opinion.

have you seen the movie, and based on your past opinions if you said you liked him he would of done something wrong

your worthless here

Would you like to repeat that?  Coherently this time....I'm really trying to decode your bashing.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: Pas RapportI hate it when people pretend they like shitty stuff to seem "cooler than cool"

what a stupid thing to say, when did i say this was a GREAT movie, i said this guy was great his part and he got lost in the shuffle and some day he will be re discovered but not by somebody with your choice of pics
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on August 18, 2003, 02:43:19 PM
OMG....you actually compared Glitter to High Fidelity.  Sweet Christ.  Okay....I've got to take a deep breath here...
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 02:43:52 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi knew you snobs would ignore this but know this Max Beesley in this film, puts to shame the entire film high fidelity when it comes to music fanatics

jack black singing lets get it on, gee isnt that song WAYYYYY Played out

every fucking movie when a sex scene comes out they use it, in the animal rob schneider goes to fuck a goat and that song plays , and in crossroads britney uses it

and that movie where neve campell thinks matthew perry is gay , they use it

i have more examples of that song being played out, great song but i would never use it in a movie, or EVER in a movie about guys who are " music fanatics"

i would tell you the right song to use but im saving it for myself

lets get it on, so played out


i guess when somone like PTA name drops Max Beesley in glitter for being great , you guys will change history and say you loved him way back when

Hate to burst your bubble, but no I wouldn't.  Max Beesley sucks ass and so does Glitter.  But I won't trash you preferences....it is, after all, an opinion.

have you seen the movie, and based on your past opinions if you said you liked him he would of done something wrong

your worthless here

Would you like to repeat that?  Coherently this time....I'm really trying to decode your bashing.

i will slow it down for you as i know you are planning a new screen name revolving around Blood & Blossoms

have you seen glitter ?

and based on your prior opinions , if you were to say you liked him it would be for two reasons he must of fucked up and did something wrong or a cool hip source has deemed him great

those are the only two ways you would like him


now answer my question have you seen the film
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2003, 02:53:17 PM
This is so funny I frankly don't know if it's some kind of joke...

I went to see Glitter, to the movie theatre, a friend of mine draged me there, telling me it woul dbe fun to laugh at the cheesines of it all...It didn't even do that. It's boooooooooooooooooooooooooring, all of it, every second is longer than a second. Every cliché there is, you find it. It's hard to believe there are people out there like these people. Don't compare me to that written by th enumbers character who likes Quincy Jones. I never particularly hated Mariah Carey, in fact I kinda like her, but the movies is a bomb. Is the cheapest attempt to make a buck, just like Crossroads (but I was wise and didn't watch that one). It's directed towards idiot people who don't distinguish a movie from a soap opera...


Purple Rain???? Give me a fucking break. Purple Rain had great music at least.
The only movie that 've seen on the theatre that is worst than Glitter (I mean since that time) is Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, wich is not even a movie, in my opinion, and I'm stil l shocked to see a lot of nice opinions on that one here at Xixax....
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 03:08:20 PM
i never said it was purple rain and i still say that 99% of the people dissing this film is because its vouge to do so

max beasley, he did a good job

on a project that was doomed from the start he could of done a shitty job but he said fuck it

ya know what most internet people are like jack black in high fidelity, and these people go no where in life

but there are a few people like the maz beasley guy out there and they make movies and music that make life great

thats why philop seymore hoffman is so popular online, people relate to him and the charecters he plays

me i thought max in glitter was what a real music junkie dj is like and not a hollywood version, which the studio im sure wrote for him, but he transended what could of been a shitty part

alexandro, maybe when you saw it you drank the water that daya nd we all know mexico and its water
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2003, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi never said it was purple rain and i still say that 99% of the people dissing this film is because its vouge to do so

max beasley, he did a good job

on a project that was doomed from the start he could of done a shitty job but he said fuck it

ya know what most internet people are like jack black in high fidelity, and these people go no where in life

but there are a few people like the maz beasley guy out there and they make movies and music that make life great

thats why philop seymore hoffman is so popular online, people relate to him and the charecters he plays

me i thought max in glitter was what a real music junkie dj is like and not a hollywood version, which the studio im sure wrote for him, but he transended what could of been a shitty part

alexandro, maybe when you saw it you drank the water that daya nd we all know mexico and its water
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 04:00:51 PM
i know what i said motha fucka you dont have to only just quote me

and take up space
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2003, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi never said it was purple rain and i still say that 99% of the people dissing this film is because its vouge to do so

max beasley, he did a good job

on a project that was doomed from the start he could of done a shitty job but he said fuck it

ya know what most internet people are like jack black in high fidelity, and these people go no where in life

but there are a few people like the maz beasley guy out there and they make movies and music that make life great

thats why philop seymore hoffman is so popular online, people relate to him and the charecters he plays

me i thought max in glitter was what a real music junkie dj is like and not a hollywood version, which the studio im sure wrote for him, but he transended what could of been a shitty part

alexandro, maybe when you saw it you drank the water that daya nd we all know mexico and its water


I see little difference between that character in glitter and the asshole in coyote ugly who also wanted to make it...In an intelligent movie, the character woudl'nt have to explain everything for us like if we were a bunch of idiots...that scene you mention, that I had the pleasure to foget until today, is written by some stuido exec so they can show the "sensitive" side of the character, and how much he loves music, and then people like you buys this crap...It's still funny to argue with you cause maybe next you will say something even dumber...

about the water, well, is not a really good joke anyway...the only people who get sick drinking mexican water are first world citizens, a minority in the world, who also can't stand a good, tasty dish of street tacos. First world citizens avoid stomachaches for a lifetime and then die of stomach cancer because all the conservatives they have in everything from beans to water...not that I don't like junk american food too, but my stomach is stronger... :)
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 04:12:08 PM
ok having heard your explanation of the charecter i will just say this that you missed the point by a long shot, too bad

we shouldnt fight

as far as your water, well ::thinks of what he can add to it:: well the water doesnt make your stomach hurt so you compensate by eating beans and hot sause all day instead

i like the latins i spend many a time in latin areas cancoon, ibiza, Puerto rico, acapulco , east L.A  

so we can agree to dissagree on glitter but your way off
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2003, 04:23:40 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesok having heard your explanation of the charecter i will just say this that you missed the point by a long shot, too bad

we shouldnt fight

as far as your water, well ::thinks of what he can add to it:: well the water doesnt make your stomach hurt so you compensate by eating beans and hot sause all day instead

i like the latins i spend many a time in latin areas cancoon, ibiza, Puerto rico, acapulco , east L.A  

so we can agree to dissagree on glitter but your way off


i was kidding, man...thought you were kidding too...

anyway if you like glitter, i bet mariah ha sa smile on her face...

by the way those places you mention are ok but not really latin, they're like the european-american version of what they would like to believe is latin....East L.A. may be the more authentic places of th eones you mention...if you wanna know latin for real, try the south of mexico, chiapas, oaxaca, or try the central part of the country....in cancun they don't even have that many pesos anymore, everything is in dollars...
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 04:31:56 PM
yeah were having fun

fuck yeah east LA is great, but im a gringo so of course i will go to ibiza and  puerto rico


i dont have any family in mexico to go down into the real non tourist places, like you guy's indiana


but one thing you got to know  about me when i make a risky post and stick my neck out , i get testy

and not to be a dick, but those risky posts are the ones worth posting, like my god /magnolia post

but most of the time were just fucking around , so lets have fun
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Alexandro on August 18, 2003, 04:43:35 PM
If you have the money to go to cancun and ibiza, you surely got the money to make a backpacking tour around the mexican pacific coast...you'll love it...they don't have bottled water though...but they have beer...
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 18, 2003, 05:02:16 PM
Quote from: AlexandroIf you have the money to go to cancun and ibiza, you surely got the money to make a backpacking tour around the mexican pacific coast...you'll love it...they don't have bottled water though...but they have beer...


i will, and i dont mean that in a patronizing way,

but i have to say this about me, maybe its wrong to admit this

but i like nice hotels and good food and GREAT beachs

some people like to vacation deep in africa  and i would never do that

so i respect your opinion and i may do that but i would rather just go to st barts and lie on the beach or chill on a yacht drinking pina coladas
Title: Re: In defense of glitter
Post by: cine on August 19, 2003, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesok here it is im gonna defend glitter a movie that was shit on by 99% of the people who have never even seen it
It was certainly shit on by almost 99% of the people who DID see it. For the people who shit on it who didn't see it -- maybe they just have that gut feeling.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthe reason people wanted to hate it is, mariah has that perfect fake pop happy image then she goes nuts that summer so people got happy
A) They wanted to hate it because it was a shitty movie (watched it on TMN just to see for myself). That's a good enough reason.
B) She likely went nuts because she made Glitter.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand the film was doomed since day one
It was doomed since day one *probably* because it was a Mariah Carey movie with a dull premise/screenplay.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthis would be the sort of film i would watch when i was 15 on a saturday aftenoon on channell 20
Which shows where the movie probably belongs, if it had to go SOMEWHERE.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesjust a harmless film about a chick who wants to make it, not one single really embaressing moment
A) Harmless? I hardly think so. Do you know how painful that movie might've been to some people? It was torture for me.
B) Embarrassing? Perhaps Carey's acting was at least one moment of embarrassment (or every moment she was on the screen...)
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthe guy in the movie who plays her boyfriend record producer
He fucking nailed that part, he played a music fanatic with dreams of making it so perfect
He was probably channeling his own life of making it as an actor. That's why it was so realistic. He was acting in GLITTER..
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneshe was one of us, cept were movie fans who want to make movies
Um.. not all of us. I was watching the movie as a moviegoer who wants to see a good fuckin' movie.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesever try and explain to your girlfriend with such passion why you love a scene in a movie
Yeah, but if I was talking about Glitter, I would've been slapped or committed to a mental ward.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneshe does this in the film, he shows her all his favorite instruments, and they are not gay ass generic hollywood guitars, he shows her timbalays and stuff and tells her about how quincy jones got started in the biz and thats his hero and he wants to be just like him
... Do you think showing "gay ass generic hollywood guitars" would've made it a lesser film? Seriously.... ? (I wish I knew what those were too)
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthe guy is played by Max Beesley and he was really fucking good in the movie, and i know snobs will turn their noses up but too fucking bad while your wasteing your time watching some un watchable preteniouce art film, here is a film that has some great stuff in it, but i really wish you guys could see those scenes with him, he played it perfect
Maybe when I'm watching my 'unwatchable pretentious art films', I'll think about him in that perfect role in the Mariah Carey movie about how he wanted to be just like his hero Quincy Jones. And I'll always remember that 'unwatchable pretentious art films' are shit compared to Max Beesley wanting to be just like Quincy Jones.

I must say, there is nothing great in this movie whatsoever. Great is such an overused term and for it to be misused for a movie like Glitter is awful, because Glitter IS awful. That's that.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: ©brad on August 19, 2003, 04:01:19 PM
yikes. so many quotes. for future reference, please put a space after whatever u write before u do another quote. looks better.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: cine on August 19, 2003, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: ©bradyikes. so many quotes. for future reference, please put a space after whatever u write before u do another quote. looks better.

Christ, I did that too and edited them out because I didn't want to get verbally raped for 'wasting space'. And now I know. And knowing is half the battle.
:wink:
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 19, 2003, 04:37:58 PM
cinephile after reading your waste of space all i can say is , i hope keith richards never sees your pic , becausde he would have those lips cut right off , out of shame of being associated with you ( the man carrys a switch blade i kid you not all the more reason keith is a pimp )

you made your lack of point move on their is nothing else you can bring to this
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: ©brad on August 19, 2003, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonescinephile after reading your waste of space all i can say is , i hope keith richards never sees your pic , becausde he would have those lips cut right off , out of shame of being associated with you ( the man carrys a switch blade i kid you not all the more reason keith is a pimp )

you made your lack of point move on their is nothing else you can bring to this

now now play nice. at least give him props for making all those quotes. i would never have the energy to do that, nor do i have the energy to actually read that long post. maybe sumday...
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 19, 2003, 05:08:32 PM
thats like giving chimino props because heavons gate was four hours long
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: RegularKarate on August 19, 2003, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: AlexandroFirst world citizens avoid stomachaches for a lifetime and then die of stomach cancer because all the conservatives they have in everything from beans to water...

That IS our problem, too many fucking conservatives.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: cine on August 20, 2003, 01:06:10 AM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthats like giving chimino props because heavons gate was four hours long

Hey, Alguien, I got no problem with you.. I'm just expressing personal opinions on the movie and such. So I have no problem with you whatsoever...

but I have to ask if no one else has yet...

Do you have a secret rolodex of analogies sitting next to your computer? Please let me know.
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 20, 2003, 01:13:46 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthats like giving chimino props because heavons gate was four hours long


Do you have a secret rolodex of analogies sitting next to your computer? Please let me know.


no im just quick, and its all me and the weirder and more obsure the refernce the better

im glad we have no beef but i do dissagree with you on glitter and i think its to easy to bash a film that is such a easy target

why not just say that justin timberlake is a fag next, meanwhile his fingers smell like  cameron diaz'z pussy

see im quickwith the analogies
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: cine on August 20, 2003, 06:56:26 AM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthats like giving chimino props because heavons gate was four hours long


Do you have a secret rolodex of analogies sitting next to your computer? Please let me know.


no im just quick, and its all me and the weirder and more obsure the refernce the better

im glad we have no beef but i do dissagree with you on glitter and i think its to easy to bash a film that is such a easy target

why not just say that justin timberlake is a fag next, meanwhile his fingers smell like  cameron diaz'z pussy

see im quickwith the analogies

... Riiiiiight. I'm going to go over here now.  :?
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: Cecil on August 20, 2003, 06:23:53 PM
gridlock'd was a good movie
Title: In defense of glitter
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on August 20, 2003, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesthats like giving chimino props because heavons gate was four hours long


Do you have a secret rolodex of analogies sitting next to your computer? Please let me know.


no im just quick, and its all me and the weirder and more obsure the refernce the better

im glad we have no beef but i do dissagree with you on glitter and i think its to easy to bash a film that is such a easy target

why not just say that justin timberlake is a fag next, meanwhile his fingers smell like  cameron diaz'z pussy

see im quickwith the analogies

... Riiiiiight. I'm going to go over here now.  :?

yes i agree go, go far away