.....i never get tired of watching this ..something about the music and vibe of this film..looks really good..beautiful really......also, the cast as of now is stellar...ensemble ....very wll acted..i really cannot find fault in this film....the way theydid the 70's nostalgia was dead on.......i think this film is one of the few films that is generallt accepted by all on this board.........also.....when looking back at it now(i believe it came out around boggie nights)........?............is a masterpiece................a ? 4 u.>who does the score??
It is a magnificent and tragic film.
I'm kind of bummed it didn't lead to a revival of key parties, though.
i love this movie soo much...honestly, i dont have any words to describe it, i just.....i dont know. its great.
i'm confused as to whether or not it's better than american beauty. or is the comparison even justified? either way it's fucking brilliant and completely depressing. lee's best?
one of my favourites I rate it ten.
I have been lending it to all my friends to prove how elijah wood sucks ass in lotr
Quote from: snaporazi'm confused as to whether or not it's better than american beauty. or is the comparison even justified? either way it's fucking brilliant and completely depressing. lee's best?
I too often compare it to american beauty and I think it's far superior to it, way more tragic, yet subtle, more credible.
Quote from: snaporazi'm confused as to whether or not it's better than american beauty. or is the comparison even justified? either way it's fucking brilliant and completely depressing. lee's best?
in everything but the thora department, the ice storm is superior. tho ricci and holmes almost make up for that. the comparison is justified as they both reveal shit about american families, tho one is funny & light about it, and the other is serious & dark.
lee's best would be Hulk. but american critics would say this is his greatest (meaning: underrated). i mention american critics cos they are the ones who establish most official opinions, and ice storm must've spoken to a lot of them. they overpraised Crouching Tiger cos that would be as far as they could see themselves following this dude.. tho they'll return eventually, lee's too good.
Ang Lee is the new Milos Forman of international cinema.
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Michael Danna.
And this is one of my absolute favourite movies. I went through a phase of watching it literally daily - very strange time...
Even though it's so wilfully pessimistic, for some reason I can just watch it whatever mood I'm in. It's absolutely hilarious at points too. On the self-abuse front...
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was his 1st big american movie Cuckoo's Nest...or was there something prior??...am I even thinkin' of the right guy?... off topic I know
This is Lee's best film IMO.
He writes about characters in such isolation, people who are so detatched from themselves and everything around them.....beautifully shot, written, GOD i just can't stop drooling over this movie.
I just saw this last night for the first time.
anyone ever seen the wedding banquet? another great one by lee that no one really talks about too much.
I liked it, but am not as enthusiastic as the crowd. A much better movie than AB, but still heavy handed story wise when not needing to be. The filmmaking though is excellent and reminds me of The Godfather in its craftmanship.
~rougerum
i guess if i had to compare it to american beauty, i would have to say ice storm is better (tho i do love American Beauty). American beauty was way too overpraised, too much for its own good.
I agree, I really love The Ice Storm. I also like Lee's "Eat Drink Man Woman"
I liked this movie, but not for the reasons as everyone else. I thought it was rather slow, but once it got deeper and deeper in, it was much more enjoyable. My favorite scenes were with Christina Ricci. The innocence conveyed in those scenes was incredibly unique, and most memorable for me. I don't think it's a better film than American Beauty, but it's still pretty good.
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was his 1st big american movie Cuckoo's Nest...or was there something prior??...am I even thinkin' of the right guy?... off topic I know
I'm not sure but I think he did HAIR before.
Y'know what's kind of sad? I found this movie in the Wal-Mart bargain pile for $5.88. Ouch.
Quote from: PawbloeY'know what's kind of sad? I found this movie in the Wal-Mart bargain pile for $5.88. Ouch.
I will buy it off you and sell you my copy for the $19.99 I paid for it....???
just looking out for ya!
yes, that's how i bought it, for $5.88 at walmart, it was that or my pick of dolph lungren movies or the ernest goes to... series; just watched it and really liked it, the cinematography was enchanting for such a character piece, Ice Storm that is.
Quote from: ewardi guess if i had to compare it to american beauty, i would have to say ice storm is better (tho i do love American Beauty). American beauty was way too overpraised, too much for its own good.
"man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true"
francis bacon(1561-1626)
Ang Lee's powerful 'Ice Storm'
The director's take on 1970s America broke new ground for the versatile director.
By Dennis Lim, Special to The Times
ANG LEE's reputation as one of the most versatile directors working is richly deserved, though it might also be a little misleading. The Taiwanese-born New Yorker shuttles effortlessly among eras, cultures and genres, moving from the domestic ("Eat Drink Man Woman") to the epic ("Ride With the Devil"), from martial-arts acrobatics ("Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon") to superhero angst ("Hulk"), from class-conscious Regency England ("Sense and Sensibility") to the mythologized Wild West ("Brokeback Mountain").
But there are common threads that unite these seemingly disparate works. Running through most of Lee's films, all of them produced and many of them written or co-written by James Schamus (now the head of Focus Features), is a tension between the desires of the individual and the dictates of society.
Time and again Lee has returned to the distorting force of sexual repression, most famously in "Brokeback Mountain" but also in such films as his early culture-clash comedy "The Wedding Banquet," and last year's "Lust, Caution."
"The Ice Storm" (1997), a central film in Lee's body of work, examines the flip side of that theme: the destructive potential not of repression but of a particular brand of permissiveness. Before this elegant portrait of the suburban bourgeoisie in the wake of the sexual revolution, out in a two-disc edition from the Criterion Collection this week, Lee was known in the States as a maker of art-house exotica. His earlier films had been set in Taiwan or among Chinese Americans, the one exception being the Emma Thompson-scripted Jane Austen adaptation "Sense and Sensibility."
But "The Ice Storm," which traces the entwined fates of two families, is nothing if not all-American -- an attempt to distill the embarrassment and disenchantment of the Nixon years as felt by the affluent residents of a Connecticut commuter town. The source novel, by Rick Moody, was itself a WASP-lit update, adding a disaffected-teen perspective to the templates created by John Updike and John Cheever.
Set during Thanksgiving week 1973, the film remains a potent evocation of a watershed period in American social and political history. Lee didn't experience it first-hand -- he arrived in the U.S. to attend the University of Illinois in 1978 -- but he did abundant research before the shoot (watching Paul Mazursky movies and '70s sitcoms, digesting the era's pop psychology and feminist literature). As the actors attest in the Criterion set's accompanying featurette, they received binders stuffed with period-specific reference points.
There are no weak links in the ensemble. Among the older generation, Kevin Kline modulates between comic disorientation and raw despair, and Joan Allen is both bitter and brittle in her patented role of the stoic wronged woman (she also imparts an additional subtext, having indelibly portrayed Pat Nixon in Oliver Stone's 1995 "Nixon"). Their younger counterparts are equally adept at projecting a wounded bafflement, especially Christina Ricci and Adam Hann-Byrd as precocious sexual experimenters.
The technical work is also superb across the board. Several of the DVD's extras are devoted to the look of the film: the controlled palette of Frederick Elmes' cinematography and the careful mimicry of Mark Friedberg's production design and Carol Oditz's costumes.
Like Moody's novel, Lee's film stumbles when it reaches for the cosmic: Greek tragedy by way of a freak accident. The problem with the tear-jerking, deeply symbolic climax, in which a child is sacrificed for the sins of the parents, is not so much that it clashes with the movie's coolly satirical tone but that it can't help seeming puritanical.
Until that point, though, "The Ice Storm" is a persuasive dissection of the countercultural mind set as it devolved from youthful idealism to a set of commodified lifestyle choices. If the movie transcends its last-minute lunge into cautionary moralism, it's thanks to Lee's empathetic treatment of his characters and his nuanced handling of an eternal subject: the conflict between tradition and rebellion.
A.O. Scott Reviews The Ice Storm (http://video.nytimes.com/video/2010/11/22/movies/1248069318731/critics-picks-the-ice-storm.html)
Thanks, A.O., for reminding me how much I love this movie. I'm going to go watch it again -- or maybe even invest in the Criterion if it's reasonable wait (futilely?) for them to release a Blu-Ray version.
I bought the Criterion DVD during the Barnes & Noble sale a couple weeks ago. I contemplated waiting for a BD release, but at the rate Criterion releases BD's, I figured it would probably not come out anytime soon if ever.
It's a fabulous release for a fabulous film. Haven't listened to the commentary yet.
one of my absolute favorites. this might've been the first november in five years i didn't watch it ...