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Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: BrainSushi on August 06, 2003, 12:30:51 PM
Did you guys like Unbreakable?  I thought it was great!  I just rented this movie at my local renting joint, and I thought it was   tres bien . :-D  :twisted:  :shock:  8) [/i]
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Sleuth on August 06, 2003, 12:35:21 PM
I give it a big yay
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Raikus on August 06, 2003, 12:35:58 PM
I'm sure I'll be in the dissenting opinion soon, but yeah, I liked it. It drug a little, but I think it paid off in the end.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ghostboy on August 06, 2003, 12:40:52 PM
Neigh. I liked everything up until the end, which I thought sucked (and was also totally predictable).
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Sleuth on August 06, 2003, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: GhostboyNeigh. I liked everything up until the end, which I thought sucked (and was also totally predictable).

Everyone says that, but I hadn't a clue (and I thought 6th Sense was obvious, so I don't know what's wrong with me)

I thought the end was really well done and terribly depressing
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Pas on August 06, 2003, 12:51:38 PM
Big yay...the only M. Night Shyamamalalanan movie I like
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: RegularKarate on August 06, 2003, 12:57:42 PM
Pretty sure this one's been discussed to death, but it's hella Nay for me.

It's the same movie as the Sixth Sense except not done as well.  boooooo.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Redlum on August 06, 2003, 01:41:27 PM
ya-hey from me. I think its his best movie. My only probelm with the end was that it felt really rushed. The score was my favourite part though.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Derek on August 06, 2003, 01:46:29 PM
I like it. Maybe I was spoiled by the 6th Sense, but the ending was disappointing. Unbreakable also could've used a little more humor instead of being terminally somber. I think Signs is his best movie, but he should've done something different with that ending too (in regards to the alien plotline, not the one about faith.)
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: markums2k on August 06, 2003, 01:49:03 PM
"They call me Mr. Glass."

"Who?"

"The kids."

Yay for Unbreakable.  It's the only M. Night movie I own.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ravi on August 06, 2003, 01:49:38 PM
I figured out the end about half way through, if not before.  Otherwise I just didn't like it.  I guess the scene with Bruce Willis' kid and the gun was supposed to be suspenseful, but I didn't find it so.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Rudie Obias on August 06, 2003, 01:57:30 PM
nay!
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: metroshane on August 06, 2003, 02:11:54 PM
I have to go with a big "yawn".

I think the premise of the trailer was better than the movie.  In other words, leave out Sam.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: jokerspath on August 06, 2003, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: RaviI guess the scene with Bruce Willis' kid and the gun was supposed to be suspenseful, but I didn't find it so.

I think that in this scene his son says something to the effect of "I'll only shoot you once" and I remember in the theatre me and my friends laughing at loud at this illogical statement, ruining whatever suspense there may have been for anyone else in the theatre...

Other than that, I'd go with "yay"...

aw
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: snaporaz on August 06, 2003, 02:32:19 PM
simply put, i thought the movie was stupid. and believe me, i don't like saying that about movies just because i don't like them. i'll always give a reason as to why it sucks. but in this particular case, i thought it was flat-out one dumb fucking movie. silly. absurd. i didn't give a shit about any of the characters. probably because they live in a world that simply doesn't fucking exist. and not in the star wars kind of way.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Raikus on August 06, 2003, 02:44:02 PM
Quote from: snaporazprobably because they live in a world that simply doesn't fucking exist. and not in the star wars kind of way.
Why on earth do you say that? The entire premise (like all his works) is taking something thought of as fictional and placing it in a real world circumstance. What was so unbelievable about the movie's world aside from the talents of two of its characters?
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: phil marlowe on August 06, 2003, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: mogwainej.
nä.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: rustinglass on August 06, 2003, 05:02:13 PM
jackson's last line "they called me mr glass" was tottaly uncalled for and it pissed me off.

nay...yay :roll:

What I thought was cool was that bruce's security visions were all seen through security camera angles
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Post by: 1976 on August 06, 2003, 05:12:30 PM
big yay.

the opening shot turning out to be a mirror image was absolutely brilliant, and obviously symbolic of samuel jackson's character.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 06, 2003, 08:50:49 PM
Big Nay.  Thought the movie was poop because I was waiting for a payoff, and here I am.  Sans pay-off.  That movie was irritating in the sense that you knew what was going to happen next, but you convinced yourself it wasn't because it's too obvious.  When I say you, I mean me, I don't want people to think I'm speaking for them.  Then they'd get mad.

I'm just not that big of a fan of m. night anyway.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Alethia on August 06, 2003, 09:43:16 PM
i liked it....i like shyamalan but my complaint with his movies is that theyre kind of like swiss cheese.  they taste great but there are too many holes.......
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 06, 2003, 10:00:44 PM
:yabbse-thumbup: .its a good film to watch.....the security scene stuff is cool........
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ghostboy on August 06, 2003, 11:44:52 PM
After seeing The Hulk, I started thinking about what Unbreakable would have been like if it had employed a similar editing technique. It would have changed the pacing, which was one of the things I thought was cool, but overall I think it might have been a plus. It's not like it would ruin the surprise that it's about comics and superheroes, since he put those stupid statistics at the very beginning (I really hated that).
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Alethia on August 07, 2003, 12:25:48 AM
i kind of agree - it seemed like he did it too quick as well.  like, he knew he had a good idea, and he wrote like what - a draft?  it could have been fleshed out so much more.  the movie just seems like good ideas on top of good ideas - amounting to not very much.  although, i still liked it.......heh. i'll admit, while his writing may not be top notch - M. Night Shyamalan can direct a fucking scene or two - whew.  kinda like signs.......altho he seriously fucked up the end of that movie.  i didnt think his script was great, but jesus christ, he directed that movie brilliantly, up until the ending.....
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ravi on August 07, 2003, 12:53:56 AM
Quote from: ewardheh. i'll admit, while his writing may not be top notch - M. Night Shyamalan can direct a fucking scene or two - whew.

I've thought this about him after seeing Unbreakable and Signs.  If he'd improve his writing (which will probably happen over time), get a good co-writer, or direct someone else's scripts, I might like his films a little more.  I shouldn't be judging a filmmaker based on 3 films (I don't count Praying with Anger and Wide Awake as his major films), but I'm doing it anyways.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: oakmanc234 on August 07, 2003, 01:15:10 AM
Definate Yah. I think its a nice piece of work. I like how Shamalyn uses over-used (and cheesy) story lines and takes them dead seriously, re-inventing them. I never felt more cheated by a films ending than I did the first time I watched 'Unbreakable' (I still think it should've ended with a bang than a wimper) but I think its wonderful. The score was great (especially in the station scene where Willis realises his powers). Their were little annoyances scattered (the line 'No shooting friends' was a major scene killer) but I think Shamalyn is a fine film-maker.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: snaporaz on August 07, 2003, 01:24:33 AM
Quote from: Raikus
Quote from: snaporazprobably because they live in a world that simply doesn't fucking exist. and not in the star wars kind of way.
Why on earth do you say that? The entire premise (like all his works) is taking something thought of as fictional and placing it in a real world circumstance. What was so unbelievable about the movie's world aside from the talents of two of its characters?

i don't see it like that. i'll take an alien invasion or ghosts to be more plausible than superheroes any day. shyamalan's world is too real to include shit like that. superheroes remind me of crap like the easter bunny or santa claus. i mean, this is what seperates unbreakable from all other super-hero movies...the other movies take place in a world obviously not our own, while unbreakable is supposed to be in ours. but, as i said, unlike shyamalan's other two flicks, i just see superheroes as too absurd to be taken seriously.

and that's just a big thing with me...if a movie is about something too outrageous that takes place in my world, i will almost definately hate it, unless the outrageousness of it is fashioned in a plausible way, like the outrageousness of time travel in 1985, made plausible by the flux capaciter or some shit. i'll see it differently like that. fuck that black knight bullshit.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: ProgWRX on August 07, 2003, 02:24:00 PM
I vote yay...

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie, save for a couple of scenes and the ending not being up to par with the rest of the movie, but i can still appreciate it...

Sixth Sense totally blew me away when i saw it in the theaters, not knowing anything about the movie when i sat down to see it..  i dont the experience will repeat itself anymore...
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on August 07, 2003, 07:50:34 PM
Nay. I'll agree with the ones calling it of similarity where the only thing unique and of interest was what the ending is. It felt like a movie that was a built up to that. Also, the idea that an ending has to be kept secret from the audience so the film isn't "ruined" seems to speak on the weakness of the script as well.

~rougerum
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: oakmanc234 on August 07, 2003, 10:17:45 PM
I'd love him to do a follow-up, even though its EXTREMELY unlikely that he will. I've always seen 'Unbreakable' as the first of a trilogy, or the first chapter of some sort of series.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: modage on August 07, 2003, 10:26:14 PM
Would you do a sequel to "The Sixth Sense" or "Unbreakable"?

MNS: Definitely not "The Sixth Sense" and "Unbreakable," I would have, but I just didn't feel enough love. That's the truth. Most people won't give you a true answer. I didn't feel enough love. I was surprised at the split in the audience. I was mostly surprised at the lack of the acknowledgment of at least what we aspired to do-the classy, non-fighting goblins on the roof version.

also: Said in the bonus disk that the movie Unbreakable was made from what started as only the first third of the original script. He said he felt no connection to the last two thirds of the text and decided to discard them.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: MacGuffin on August 07, 2003, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: GhostboyIt's not like it would ruin the surprise that it's about comics and superheroes, since he put those stupid statistics at the very beginning (I really hated that).

Those opening statistics are the very reason I figured out the 'secret'. He should have held off on those. Also, the ending scrolls of what happened to the characters was a cop out, epecially if M. Night had thought of this as a trilogy.

From Entertainment Weekly:
With M. Night Shyamalan's Signs seemingly unstoppable at the box office, the director says he still can't quite shake the idea of a sequel to 2000's Unbreakable, which grossed close to $100 million but had as many detractors as fans. ''I keep struggling with whether to do it or not,'' he says. ''It's hard because I feel a little upset that it split audiences, [but] I'd love to see what that guy's life is like now,'' he adds, referring to Bruce Willis' character. ''How does he orchestrate his life so that he doesn't touch people? And then [his] wife doesn't know, but [his] kid knows that dad's a superhero -- that's so f -- -ing fun! I'd love to do that.''


And I too had to hold a laugh back when the son points the gun and Robin Wright says something like: "We don't shoot friends." It completely undercut the suspense of the scene and it's intention.

But for the most part, I enjoyed this film and think it's M. Night's best behind "Sixth Sense". There are shots of pure perfection in here. The long take scene after the train crash where the doctor tells Bruce's character what happened in the background as a survivor dies in the foreground with the pool of blood slowly growing under the sheet is beautiful composition.

Although I understand why he cut it out, but I almost wish M. Night left in the scene of Mr. Glass as a boy riding the carnival ride and smashing his bones as he is tossed side to side.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ravi on August 08, 2003, 01:16:21 PM
What were the stats?  It's been a while since I saw the movie.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Find Your Magali on August 08, 2003, 02:30:42 PM
I give it a definite yay. I think Willis' performance in Unbreakable was better than his in The Sixth Sense. His relationship with his son is the absolute best thing about the movie -- very raw and real. ... It's also a beautifully shot film.

Mostly, though, after the film was over, I understood that it was supposed to be an "origins" piece, and DIDN'T feel the desire to know more, or see an epic showdown. ... That's why I'm mixed on a sequel. I think Willis and Jackson would be great, but the film would have an entirely different tone. Now that the cat's out of the bag, a second movie would simply be Lex Luther vs. Superman.

Let Unbreakable stand on its own.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Pas on August 08, 2003, 02:34:40 PM
I feel the exact same way about the movie...until I heard the rumors, I had never even imagined there could be a sequel
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: MacGuffin on August 08, 2003, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: RaviWhat were the stats?  It's been a while since I saw the movie.

Basically, they were stats about comic books. Average page count and illustrations in a single issue. Their price range. How many are sold in a day - a year. How many the average collector has.
Title: Re: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Myxo on August 08, 2003, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: BrainSushiDid you guys like Unbreakable?  I thought it was great!  I just rented this movie at my local renting joint, and I thought it was   tres bien . :-D  :twisted:  :shock:  8) [/i]

I own The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable. I love them both. I have to say though, his "tricks" are getting a bit old. The surprise endings are pretty much no longer a surprise anymore using his old schemes.

I think the best thing M. Night has going for him is "mood". That guy is incredible at drawing you into a sequence, no matter how goofy or far fetched it is. Examples..

The sequence at the little girl home in The Sixth Sense is nothing short of fantastic. The CU on the father's face as he watches the video still give me chills. I have to admit I jumped a few times when I first saw it. How about when HJO is taking a pee and it starts getting cold. Good stuff.

The weight lifting sequence in Unbreakable is just great. Oh, and the best M. Night line:

"Do you see any Telletubbies around here?... Do you see a slender plastic tag clipped to my shirt with my name printed on it?... Do you see a little Asian child with a blank expression sitting outside in a mechanical helicopter that shakes when you put quarter in it?... "

The closet sequence with Phoenix watching the video as the "creature" crosses by the alley in Signs is very well done. So is the basement sequence.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Little Drummer Boy on August 09, 2003, 07:31:45 AM
This movie was absolute crap! Jackson 5 was a good idea. Unbreakable was not!
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: cyk on August 09, 2003, 11:00:46 AM
i didn't hate it and my girlfriend still dosn't get it.....but over all i'd say i liked it.

although now someone has mentioned it, it dose have the "movie length first episode" pilot feel to it.....most of all the rushed ending ending...
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: dufresne on August 10, 2003, 01:03:53 AM
how does EVERYONE die in a hotel fire?

:?
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: modage on August 10, 2003, 08:29:01 PM
i say yay.  i give this movie a lot of credit for trying (before the huge comic book movie explosion), to make a serious comic book movie.  i recently watched this again a few months ago, and think it was a really good movie.  well acted, well shot. all around.  

i acually had a real problem with m. night for a while after sixth came out and exploded, and it took me a little while to get over. because in every interview i read with him, he always talked like he was the greatest director since spielberg or something and i didnt think he'd done enough to warrant that attitute.  (i still saw unbreakable on opening day), although i kind of had a prejudice against him, but have gotten over it after unbreakable did okay business.  i think he kind of grew out of that too big for his britches attitute.  and now i have sixth and unbreakable.  i'd get signs too but maybe a 2 disc is in order first!
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Ernie on August 10, 2003, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: Ravi

I think that in this scene his son says something to the effect of "I'll only shoot you once" and I remember in the theatre me and my friends laughing at loud at this illogical statement, ruining whatever suspense there may have been for anyone else in the theatre...

Other than that, I'd go with "yay"...

aw

Yea, I laughed at pretty much the whole scene. It's just funny to me..."We don't shoot friends Joseph"...and then also when he says something like "If you shoot me, it will bounce off and you'll be in big trouble Mister!"...it's a very awkward scene.

Anyway, I don't know what to think. I liked it the first time I saw it...scared the hell out of me. I definitely didn't love any of the replays I gave it though, I gotta say. I've become pretty indifferent about it. I think I like Signs more. I don't know. Maybe I'll give this one another go. I haven't seen 6th sense in ages either.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Alethia on August 10, 2003, 10:58:28 PM
i remember how exciting it was to see the trailer for the first time....if only the movie had been AS good as that little miracle of a teaser was, i would have been a happy boy...
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: markums2k on August 11, 2003, 09:03:26 AM
How come so many people have a problem with the dialogue in the "gun scene"?  I liked it.  I didn't think there was anything overly goofy about it.

Unbreakable is better than Signs, but Signs was more commercially successful.  Another reason to hate everyone but yourself... I would love to see a sequel with another villian.  I think it would be very very interesting.  Of course, Mr. Glass would be locked away, plotting his scheme for the next movie.  I'd rather see that shit over another Marvel film... bleh
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: penfold0101 on August 11, 2003, 10:25:22 AM
I give it a big yay. At the time it came out it was very different to most things that were about at the time, the whole idea really pulled me in. i found the majority of the dialogue to be very good

better than the Six Sense, which is the first and only film I've ever fell asleep to at the cinema!

Is the train station the station out of X-Men? it looks so similar.
Title: Unbreakable: Yay or Nay?
Post by: Raikus on August 11, 2003, 11:51:24 AM
I don't think it's the same train station as X-Men was filmed in Canada. However the train set is the same used in 'Dogma.'