I use a Firewire connection and Pinnacle Studio 8 to capture my videos and I always end up getting so many frames dropped in the capture process, which is a major pain in the ass. I also have 128MB RAM, 9.6GB free space, and an AMD Duron 800 processor, so I don't think my computer is the problem.
Does anyone here get the same problem, or know how to fix it?
Is the firewire port built into your system or are you using a card? Because you will find most of your problem will stem from the capture point.
If it's built into the system, then you NEED to buy a card, the extra video RAm will really help out. You will also need to run with a fairly powerful video card.
Your computer is running on about the lowest end for video, you should definatly upgrade yoru ram, 256 is going barebones.
800mhz shouldn't give you any real trouble, but remember with 9.6 gigs free space your going to be limited to short shorts only.
Dropped frames in capture are caused by the system being slow and not able to keep up with the capture, extra RAM is step onbe, as well as a capture card if not already using one.
Also when using a capture card you really want one that is designed for video, a pinnacle product or miro or the like, as oppossed to just a firewire card. The port simply transfers the info, but a designated card (ie Pinnacle's DV500 or even their low end stuff) is designed to handle video fluently.
Hope this helps a little.
Quote from: TiffI use a Firewire connection and Pinnacle Studio 8 to capture my videos and I always end up getting so many frames dropped in the capture process, which is a major pain in the ass. I also have 128MB RAM, 9.6GB free space, and an AMD Duron 800 processor, so I don't think my computer is the problem.
Does anyone here get the same problem, or know how to fix it?
I used to have this same set-up....(800 AMD Duron)....almost exactly, and had the exact same problem.....what I did? I maxed out my RAM to 512mb, got a 64mb video card (dunno if this nescessarly helped)....and after that, I had no problem with drop frames....of course all the shit I added onto it, proved to be more than the little computer could handle, as it would do some funky stuff (which is why it is now in 50 different pieces all over my office floor), but at least my drop frame problem was solved. I would try the RAM deal, RAM is cheap now, so $30 can ease a lot of headaches...otherwise, Michael is right, a capture card.
The RAM is definately your bottleneck here. 128MB is beyond barebones these days unfortunately. I'd recommend at least 512.
Get an external hard drive too.
I just bought a new computer....no dropped frames here...so maybe a new computer is the answer...lol. I am glad someone asked this question though, as I can't begin to explain the headache I had with this....when I first tired editing on my own computer....I couldn't capture more than like 5 min. without dropping at least a frame....after I boosted the RAM and what not, seemless....too bad the piece of shit died on me.....I just had it working to where I wanted it....
i'll try getting more ram. thanks ppl. i seriously thought 128ram was pretty good :cry:
careful though...cause if your 800MHz AMD is anything like mine was, it's only expandable to 512mb....check the technical specs online if you don't know....I just bought cheap RAM, and it worked great, so don't spend a fortune....this might be stupid to say, (just looking out), but make sure you know if it's SDRAM or DDRRAM.....another thing I forgot, kinda funny how all my computer knowledge is only from my own mistakes.....
Ok here's what i have...
Dell 2.4ghz
768mb ram
3 80 GB Hard drives - one external
The video card was the best dell would sell me.
I'm about to buy the adobe video package to edit with, but the only think i know nothing of is capture cards. I was originally getting a matrox package that came with adobe but i found a better deal on premiere i can't pass up. I don't think matrox sell's the cards by themselves..
Where and what card should i get?
i have no idea what the diff between ddram and sdram is :?
my capture used to work perfect before i reinstalled windows. could the fact that i haven't done the complete install of my video card have anything to do with it?
Quote from: Tiffi have no idea what the diff between ddram and sdram is :?
my capture used to work perfect before i reinstalled windows. could the fact that i haven't done the complete install of my video card have anything to do with it?
lol...Tiff....it probably wouldn't hurt to install it fully....
...also, what type of computer do you have? the technical specs will tell you everything you need to know. Also, unless you get some dipshit, they will usually look up what type of RAM you need anywhere you buy it....
my cousin put my comp together. it doesn't have a brand...if that's what u were asking. Also, how much ram do u recommend i get for a ten min short?
well, I got 256mb of SDRAM (w/ an AMD processor, it should be this) for like $30 bucks after the rebate (but I never sent in the rebate, so it was $45).....it wasn't the best out there, but I noticed a huge improvement....
So, apparantly when you buy adobe they give you a capture card. Am i wrong?
dunno if there are packages, but normally Premiere comes alone (it doesn have a built in Device Control though, so you don't need to buy a plug-in or anything) ....but you can get a cheap PCI firewire card ....the capture cards are all kinda based on what you need...(connections, digital/analog, etc...) for the most part, I think, but I don't use one...Michael or Xixax would probably know better than me ...
Premiere doesn't come with any capture hardware, but you can find capture hardware that comes with Premiere... And, beware of those cheap firewire cards, too. They might work, but they might not. If you are serious about doing video, you're much better off to spend a little more and get something that's certified by Adobe to work with Premiere. It'll set you back a good amount, but it's worth the headaches and frustration you'll save yourself down the line if you use it for anything serious.
Of course, those firewire cards are so cheap now that in the meantime while you're saving for a good DV cap board, there's nothing to say you can't play around with a cheap one.
There are several things you need to look at if you are having problems with dropped frames in your capture.
1: Hard drive speed. 5400 RPM drives are not fast enough. 7200 RPM drives are better, and get one with as much onboard cache as you can. I use a 120 gig 7200 RPM WD Caviar drive with an 8 meg buffer. I never have dropped frames - ever.
2: Make sure you have the proper motherboard drivers installed for your OS. This isn't something that Windows installs - you have to install them from the CD given to you from the manufacturer of your motherboard, or download them online. VIA chipsets use a utility called "4 in 1" that includes IDE drivers, PCI drivers and other stuff. Other chipsets have similar drivers. Without those low-level motherboard drivers, you're only getting probably 20% of the throughput from your PCI bus as you should. You NEED those low-level motherboard drivers, so go to your manufacturer's web site, match the model number of your motherboard (be sure you're getting the right ones or you could screw up everything), and install them.
3: More RAM... Yeah. That helps, too.
The system I built for about $1.5k includes a P4 2.4 Ghz processor, 1 gig RAM, a 120 gig 7200 RPM HD, and a modest video card. I'm also using the onboard sound. I then spent an extra $600 on a Matrox RT-X10 (which INCLUDES Premiere), and I've been loving it. It works extremely well.
Quote from: SickSacksPremiere doesn't come with any capture hardware, but you can find capture hardware that comes with Premiere... And, beware of those cheap firewire cards, too. They might work, but they might not. If you are serious about doing video, you're much better off to spend a little more and get something that's certified by Adobe to work with Premiere. It'll set you back a good amount, but it's worth the headaches and frustration you'll save yourself down the line if you use it for anything serious.
Of course, those firewire cards are so cheap now that in the meantime while you're saving for a good DV cap board, there's nothing to say you can't play around with a cheap one.
There are several things you need to look at if you are having problems with dropped frames in your capture.
1: Hard drive speed. 5400 RPM drives are not fast enough. 7200 RPM drives are better, and get one with as much onboard cache as you can. I use a 120 gig 7200 RPM WD Caviar drive with an 8 meg buffer. I never have dropped frames - ever.
2: Make sure you have the proper motherboard drivers installed for your OS. This isn't something that Windows installs - you have to install them from the CD given to you from the manufacturer of your motherboard, or download them online. VIA chipsets use a utility called "4 in 1" that includes IDE drivers, PCI drivers and other stuff. Other chipsets have similar drivers. Without those low-level motherboard drivers, you're only getting probably 20% of the throughput from your PCI bus as you should. You NEED those low-level motherboard drivers, so go to your manufacturer's web site, match the model number of your motherboard (be sure you're getting the right ones or you could screw up everything), and install them.
3: More RAM... Yeah. That helps, too.
The system I built for about $1.5k includes a P4 2.4 Ghz processor, 1 gig RAM, a 120 gig 7200 RPM HD, and a modest video card. I'm also using the onboard sound. I then spent an extra $600 on a Matrox RT-X10 (which INCLUDES Premiere), and I've been loving it. It works extremely well.
sir...you rule...I just bought this (http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/250x250/PCVRS310.jpg)....added some shit...tweeked some things...it has been workin' well
thanks for all your help, but i'm still confused on what type of ram (ddr ram or sdram) to get. because i have an amd duron 850, would that mean i'd have to get sdram (does it even work like that?), or can i just get whatever?
Quote from: Tiffthanks for all your help, but i'm still confused on what type of ram (ddr ram or sdram) to get. because i have an amd duron 850, would that mean i'd have to get sdram (does it even work like that?), or can i just get whatever?
sdram...I am assuming all AMD 800mhz (someone correct me if I am wrong), take this...just gotta be careful installing it, as you have to open up the entire computer...you will see probably 2 slots, maybe 3
Here (http://www.soyousa.com/images/products/800x600/k7vta.jpg) is an image of what one type of AMD Duran motherboard looks like. The ram slots are the 3 black, with white little locks on both ends...(near the bottom right of the photo)
QuoteSo, apparantly when you buy adobe they give you a capture card. Am i wrong?
Actually when you buy a higher end capture card they usually give you premiere...
Pinnacle DV500 for example