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Hmm, I really don't care much about seeing this. I thought the first one was pretty good, but am I the only one that feels Doc Ock is a terrible and stupid villain?
AWESOME.
San Diego Comic Con: Of all the presentations and early footage at the SDCC this year, none topped the end of the Sony panel. Producer Sam Raimi was in bed with fever, but Producers Laura Ziskin, Avi Arad & actor Alfred Molina who were on hand to introduce the brand new poster art for the Dr. Octopus villain character. The video & artwork all read 'Spiderman 2' so no final title yet.
The footage looks like something out of a hardcore R-rated sci-fi/horror film rather than a PG-13 action epic. The clip is set after the 'industrial accident' in which the tentacles have become infused into an unconscious Ock's verterbrae - hospital sheets are drapped over these giant unmoving tentacles easily about the size if not bigger than an Anaconda each. As one of the doctors is about to saw off one of them, he senses a movement, and turns...nothing. He starts again and this time hears something, turns around only to see the claws have come to life. From then on its like something out of Evil Dead, doctors and nurses are picked up like rag dolls and thrown through and against walls, screaming, the claws gripping into them and throwing them around - its cut fast and intense and by the end all of the staff is seemingly dead - either crushed to death or limbs seemingly severed. Some very Raimi-esque bits here including a chainsaw gag as one of the struggling doctors tries to cut off an arm, a POV tentacle shot which is very Evil Dead-esque, and so on. Then one of the tentacles almost lovingly nudges Ock awake and takes off the blindfold, he stands and screams "NO!" as the claws flex.
cool. doc oc looks too slim, though
Quote from: tremoloslothHmm, I really don't care much about seeing this. I thought the first one was pretty good, but am I the only one that feels Doc Ock is a terrible and stupid villain?
Quote from: MacGuffinThe footage looks like something out of a hardcore R-rated sci-fi/horror film rather than a PG-13 action epic. The clip is set after the 'industrial accident' in which the tentacles have become infused into an unconscious Ock's verterbrae - hospital sheets are drapped over these giant unmoving tentacles easily about the size if not bigger than an Anaconda each. As one of the doctors is about to saw off one of them, he senses a movement, and turns...nothing. He starts again and this time hears something, turns around only to see the claws have come to life. From then on its like something out of Evil Dead, doctors and nurses are picked up like rag dolls and thrown through and against walls, screaming, the claws gripping into them and throwing them around - its cut fast and intense and by the end all of the staff is seemingly dead - either crushed to death or limbs seemingly severed. Some very Raimi-esque bits here including a chainsaw gag as one of the struggling doctors tries to cut off an arm, a POV tentacle shot which is very Evil Dead-esque, and so on. Then one of the tentacles almost lovingly nudges Ock awake and takes off the blindfold, he stands and screams "NO!" as the claws flex.
Nevermind
i cant wait for this movie. and from the "buzz" it will be better than the first one. if it can make the first one look like x2 made x-men look, i will be very very happy. theres no reason why it cant be better and more interesting. they have the budget, time, resources, creativity behind it. i've really been more excited about this than any of the other superhero flicks this year.
i didnt like spiderman. felt like i was watchin power rangers. perhaps i'll give it another try tho.
the only scene i really felt like that was on the rooftop when goblin drops off spiderman. that scene did not work at all for me. too costume-y, to be performing through masks like that and deliver all that dialogue. but the rest of it, i loved.
Quote from: themodernage02but the rest of it, i loved.
Even the time out for the Macy Gray video?
that too i hated. "Ladies and gentlemen, MACY GRAY!" what the fuck is this? and every other time they squeezed in some pop song for 10 seconds to sell the soundtrack. and the hideous "hero" anthem over the end credits. and the fact danny elfman didnt do a recognizable theme for spidey, and whenever the special effects werent convincing, and the color of kirsten dunsts wig that was terrible. but, OTHER THAN THAT, i loved it.
can't wait to hear the tagline.
and on a side note i think many of you've misunderstood the greatness of superhero flicks, the shoudn't be watched sober. willem dafoe villian laugh just kills me, soo funny.
The first Spiderman was crap! If you've red some of the first Spiderman comics you would know that. They changed the hole storyline and made it into a teenmovie!!!!! arghh!!
Well I liked it...and why are you quoting Slipknot
Quote from: Sigur RósThe first Spiderman was crap! If you've red some of the first Spiderman comics you would know that. They changed the hole storyline and made it into a teenmovie!!!!! arghh!!
i've you'd have read some of the comics, you'd know. spiderman IS A TEENAGER. what sort of movie should they have made? he is the first superhero made to be just like his readers: a nerdy teenager, who has normal problems just like anybody else. cant get the girl, trouble at school, etc. THATS what spiderman is. i thought it totally captured the spirit of the early comics.
I liked it except for two things... Spiderman and Goblin looked like cartoons in a real life landscape (a la who framed roger rabbit), and Kirsten Dunst looks like Billy Corgan.... I couldn't stand those kisses!!!
Nick
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNick... Kirsten Dunst looks like Billy Corgan ...
The Kirsten in me is the Kirsten in you.
dentists, all of u.
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNick...and Kirsten Dunst looks like Billy Corgan.... I couldn't stand those kisses!!!
You're insano.
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNick...and Kirsten Dunst looks like Billy Corgan.... I couldn't stand those kisses!!!
that's fuckin funny. really.
and tragic too, i feel with you.
great so he's a bowler/dancer now.
Quote from: BankySpiderman 2 Japanese Trailer
Ready? FULL description:
Mary Jane and Peter at a resturant talking. (I think the pictures that was on the net a while ago was this scene) MJ: Do you love me? PP: (pause for a bit) No (not very convincing). (It is a very slow scene) MJ: Kiss me, Peter (leans over, ready to kiss) PP: (trying to resist, but REALLY want to kiss the soft jicy lips of Cutey Dunst, ooohhh, gong for it)....................
SUDDENLY, in FULL slow motion, PP leans over (like he is going to kiss her), but NO, pushes her away, as a TAXI crashes in behind PP's head, Matrix style slow speed, as PP pulls MJ away, the Taxi is flying in mid-air, just inches away from PP's head, broken glass everywhere, in slow motion. PP and MJ hit the floor, the Taxi's tires just barely passes by PP's eye balls. Back to regular speed, Taxi crash into the back wall of the cafe/resturant.
Shot from outside, tentacles (YEAH!!!) moving towards to cafe at a FAST SPEED. walks in Doc Ock, he is floating in air, only the tentacles are moving on the ground. AWESOME!!!! then the Doc, smiles madly at them. After this full scene, is all fast editing (most of it in CG wireframe) BUT ALOT, means, this trailer is FULL of FX once it is complete!!!
ok, remember the last scene of spiderman 1 where spidey swing around in the money shot of NY city, think if that multiply by 100!!! spidey is all over the place, swing like crazy!!! FULL ON, no cuts, just kept swinging and swinging. Then we got a scene, (looks like before the scene in Comic Con) with Doc Ock, flexing the tentacles in front of the scentists (before they were beat up). His back with fused tentacles facing the Camera.
Then we got scenes of spidey battles Doc Ock, Doc Ock using his tentacles throwing (I MEAN THROWING!!!) loads of cars and taxis at the swinging Spidey, loads of expolsion!! as the cars hits buildings near by in the NY streets. Spider is trying hard to dodge them.
One cool scene is, Doc Ock, successfully KICK spidey's ASS, knocks him out with the tentacles and carries him away. Then next scene, put him down in front of a fire place with his tentacles. Where you see Harry, holding a knife ready to stab him with it, and Doc Ock with a big smile in the back, just watching with a gesture "go ahead, stab him"
More battle scenes, tentacles all over, spidey shooting webs. Doc Ock is pretty much floating in AIR the whole time, his legs never touched ground. AMAZING STUFF!!
then as the trailer coming to an end, we see a green screen scene of Alfred Molina's face, with a big Doc Ock smile, the camera pans out, Ock is now a wireframe CG character, he climbs up a big building (the building in the poster) like KING KONG STYLE climb on the side of a Empire State. You can tell is right before the final showdown between him and spidey.
Screen turns black, the number "2" shows up, then "July", then "2004". END
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Trailer here:
http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/sony/spiderman2/
Quote from: MacGuffinTrailer here:
http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/sony/spiderman2/
hmmm, that really didn't do it for me.
I really liked it... this will be a very cool movie for sure... well its still 7 months away
Great trailer and a great first scene to use in it. I really didn't dig "Wife Beater Doc Ock" but I guess it will make a cool action figure along with "Car Flipping Doc Ock" and "Super Climbing Action Doc Ock." CGI still looks a little muddy, but so did the first and it didn't bother me too much.
without watching the trailer/tool-of-the-devil, i just know this is gonna ROCK cos of dunst.
i dont want to diminish the impact of seeing this on the big screen before LOTR on wednesday so i'm holding out watching the non-quicktime version. i watched the big fish trailer that way and wasnt blown away but when i saw it in the theatres it almost brought tears, so i'm gonna wait on this one.
i thought the trailer was kinda lame. Kirsten was lame and so was toby and Ock. I hope the trailer dosent totally reflect the film
Quicktime version of teaser trailer:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/spiderman2qt.html
Sam Raimi Talks Spider-Man 2
Source: The Associated Press Wednesday, January 21, 2004
Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 director Sam Raimi talked to The Associated Press about the sequel...
While most sequels ratchet up the action, Raimi chose to ratchet up the moral and personal dilemmas and private quandaries that set "Spider-Man" apart from many Hollywood franchises and helped turn it into a $400 million mega-hit.
"The next one is going to seem a little smaller and more intimate. I hope people are not hoping it's bigger and better. Hopefully, they'll think it's smaller and better," Raimi said. "I really turned the film inward on the characters, and it seems like that's what the audience responded to in the first film. So we focused on developing the characters to the next level, and the actors have taken the performances, all of them, up a notch."
The sequel picks up two years after "Spider-Man," which ended with Peter turning his back on his great love, Mary Jane, realizing it was a sacrifice he had to make to travel the high road with his superpowers.
"In those two years, we see the weight of this decision upon Peter Parker," Raimi said. "It's a much tougher road than he ever thought. And the sacrifices he makes here are much more extreme than he ever thought.
"It's about the growth of a boy into a man. Really, a simple coming-of-age story. This boy just happens to be one bitten by a radioactive spider."
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seems great; smaller and better.
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That first pic is hilarious
Spiderman's a sadomasochist.
Dunst Says Spider-Man 3 to Shoot Early 2005
Source: The Calgary Sun Thursday, March 18, 2004
Spider-Man 2 star Kirsten Dunst told The Calgary Sun that shooting on the third film may happen in early 2005...
"A minimum of three films was always the plan. I've never made any secret of that," says Dunst.
"We'll probably shoot Spider-Man 3 during the first three months of 2005. I'm so grateful to Spider-Man because it gave me an international profile."
Dunst says what she likes about the Spider-Man flicks — where she plays the superhero's love interest — is that "it's a small love story wrapped in a big movie."
As much as she enjoyed making the original film, Dunst is adamant that Spider-Man 2 "is a much better film and I had even more fun making it, so I can hardly wait to begin work on Spider-Man 3."
New details emerge about ''Spider-Man 3.''
Source: EW
''Spider-Man 2'' hasn't swung into theaters yet, but Sony Pictures has already set a release date for ''Spider-Man 3'': May 7, 2007. Director Sam Raimi will return, along with stars Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst, Sony Pictures exec Jeff Blake announced Wednesday at the ShoWest convention, according to Reuters. Blake added that ''Spider-Man 2'' is now scheduled to come out on Wed., June 30 -- two days earlier than originally planned.
The studio unveiled clips from the sequel for theater owners at ShoWest, including a scene in which Maguire's Peter Parker quits his Spidey career, Reuters reported. Also shown were sequences of Spider-Man fighting metal-armed villain Doc Ock (Alfred Molina) inside a subway car and on top of buildings. Fans impatient to see those clips for themselves will have to wait for April 9, when a new trailer for ''Spider-Man 2'' will hit theaters and the Internet. ''Spider-Man 4,'' however, still has no release date.
Oh that's just GREAT! Now we KNOW Spiderman wins!!! :yabbse-angry:
Apparently they all win now... $$$ :twisted:
New Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/spider-man_2/trailer/)
Oooh how dramatic!
Saw it during The Apprentice tonight... SO COOL...
yeah the trailer's pretty cool. but i'm pretty sure i hate JK Simmons.
Nice. Doc Ock is going to rule. Just think--a Spider-Man movie without the cheeseball villian (a la Green Goblin). What's the deal with Harry's emphasis though? Think a return of the Green Goblin is in order for the 3rd installment?
Quote from: RaikusWhat's the deal with Harry's emphasis though? Think a return of the Green Goblin is in order for the 3rd installment?
When the first one ended I thought that Harry would be the villian in this one somehow... but as you said maybe they are preparing it for the 3rd one... although in this new trailer it seems like Harry is paying the guy to kill Spidey... who knows... this movie is gonna rock!
okay looks really cool. but...
ONE: it gives away WAY too many of the dramatic arcs in the film. peter quitting being spiderman, mary jane about to marry someone else, etc.
TWO: i hope it doesnt take a wrong turn in commiting a sin that almost all the fucking superhero movies like to screw up. every fucking villian/girlfriend on earth cant find out the goddamn superheros identity! it NEVER happens in the comics, and the goddamn screenwriters think they cant come up with anything dramatic enough if the villians/love interests dont find out. isnt the hero dealing with these two things dramatic enough?
edit: i misintrepeted the preview and had to tone down my rant accordingly. apologies to sam raimi and sony pictures. this will rule, thanks.
So ah...what happened to the smaller, more intimate Spiderman sequel?That trailer was cool, although a little toot typically operatic for my tastes.
it ought to be pretty good although i wasnt to blown away by the first one either
a few awsome fucking pics at the site
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/bugle/photos/
what gives, there was no fucking at all in those pics.
clever
TV Spot (http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2004/STUVWXYZ/Spider-man2/trailer-page.html)
in Media Player and Real Player formats
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and i saw another one at the movie theater where it was him holding onto dunst, it was pretty cool.
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TWO: i hope it doesnt take a wrong turn in commiting a sin that almost all the fucking superhero movies like to screw up. every fucking villian/girlfriend on earth cant find out the goddamn superheros identity! it NEVER happens in the comics.
Once MJ and Peter got married in the comic, she was aware of who he really was.
They need to make a super Superhero movie of those comics where ALL the villains got together and kicked the shit out of Spidey, then he had to get a ton of heroes to help him.
If that's the case they should just churn out a "Secret Wars" movie. Then they could have another Spider-Man movie after it with the Venom storyline.
!!!!!!
Who's the perfect casting to play Venom?
Damn, they could get Carnage in there too, as long as they ballsed up and made an R movie.
I'm going to go out on a limb with my Venom/Eddie Brock choice: Val Kilmer. He's older, sure, but he could take the Brock character and really pull of the cocky, asshole rival of Parker with some intelligence. He could play it bitter, as the seasoned photographer that's getting shown up by the bright newcomer.
If they get around to Venom, I'm sure they'll cast him as the brainless, jock twentysomething type and either go with Vin Diesel or the type. Of course, there are the rumors of Jake Gyllenhaal which would be pretty great.
Jake?!
Jeez, I like him, but...
Val would be perfect, as long as he could bulk up a solid amount.
Good pick.
the comic fans will hate me, but I would LOVE for Harry Osbourne to become Venom rather than just being another Green Goblin (edit:) or introducing a new character
I just realised Michael Chabon helped out on the "screen story" for this. Which is very cool even if it is a third credit.
Review (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17745)
In addition to that very positive review, Ebert and Roeper had an early review, in which they gave it "two very big thumbs up."
Ebert said that it was probably the best comic book movie he'd ever seen, and Roeper agreed. Ebert gave a thumbs down to the first Spider-Man, so this is very high praise coming from him.
I was already pretty psyched about this movie, but now I'm really superpsyched. I was convinced that the second one would be better than the first (and I liked the first a lot) when I heard that Michael Chabon was involved, and that was about a year ago. I went around boldly proclaiming that Spider-Man 2 would be amazing because of this, and now I'm glad to see that it looks like I'm not gonna be proved wrong!
http://www.gothamcomics.com/spiderman_india/
SPIDER-MAN INDIA –SPIDER-MAN EXTENDS FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD TO STREETS OF BOMBAY!
Bangalore, India (June 14, 2004)— Marvel Comics & Gotham Entertainment Group –Indian publishing licensee of Marvel Comics and the leading publisher of international comic magazines in South Asia – announces the launch of Spider-Man India.
Spider-Man India interweaves the local customs, culture and mystery of modern India, with an eye to making Spider-Man’s mythology more relevant to this particular audience. Readers of this series will not see the familiar Peter Parker of Queens under the classic Spider-Man mask, but rather a new hero – a young, Indian boy named Pavitr Prabhakar. As Spider-Man, Pavitr leaps around rickshaws and scooters in Indian streets, while swinging from monuments such as the Gateway of India and the Taj Mahal.
Mumbai’s (Bombay’s) first web-swinging superhero will be joined by a reinterpretation of the classic Spider-Man villain, the Green Goblin -- reinvented as a Rakshasa, an Indian mythological demon.
“We feel this is one of the most exciting and unique projects in comic history,” said Gotham Entertainment Group CEO Sharad Devarajan. “Unlike traditional translations of American comics, Spider-Man India will become the first-ever ‘transcreation,’ where we reinvent the origin of a Western property like Spider-Man so that he is an Indian boy in Mumbai and dealing with local problems and challenges.
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Hmm. Strange but... cool.
Director Sam Raimi said Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment is planning an extended cut of Spider-Man 2, to be called Spider-Man 2.5, to be released on DVD long after the theatrical cut streets. During a press conference, Raimi said he is happy with the theatrical cut, which he estimates was only trimmed by five minutes, but he previewed the sorts of moments that might be reinstated. He teased the press with one complete scene featuring actor J.K. Simmons as the Daily Bugle editor that could be included in the extended cut. "I don't want to tell you about it. It's a surprise."
Extras planned for the theatrical cut DVD include behind-the-scenes featurettes, trailers, TV spots and more standard bonus features. Raimi was not directly involved in the production of those, but does exert his approval over the material. "I do approve these things. I watch all of them, and I say, 'Please, let's not incorporate that. It seems too out of character for Spider-Man' or 'I don't think the kids will like this," he said. "I usually make some edits and suggestions in each and every piece where I try not to give away too much of the magic unless it's necessary. But really, it's put together by other editors and filmmakers." Look for the Spider-Man 2 DVD this fall.
I can't decide whether this I think this or X2 is the best comic book movie ever (as far as superheroes go, at least), because I haven't seen X2 since it was in theaters, and I absolutely loved it, but man...Spiderman 2 is pretty spectacular. Sam Raimi was right when he said that it was a more intimate story, and his direction here is sooo much better. There are some classic Raimi touches (buuuzzzzzzzz) and some really beautiful sequences. It's also hilarious, and the way the characters grow shows signs of very intelligent writing (no offense to the other writers, but I'd like to believe Chabon had something to do with that, more than his story credit implies). In fact, it's so character-based that the conflict with Doc Ock sort of gets left by the wayside, making him the least satisfactory part of the movie. He's not as good a villain as the green goblin, dramatically, but on the other hand he's not wearing a stupid mask and he doesn't have any lame scenes where he asks Spidey to side up with him. But that's a minor complaint.
Ummmmm....okay, I'll write a full review later...but in short, it's awesome.
Quote from: Ghostboyin short, it's awesome.
in short, i'm jealous. 24 hours...
Here's that full review (http://www.road-dog-productions.com/spiderman2.html).
good
whip pans
the emergency room scene
cryptic Sam Raimi tones
bad
the dialogue
the story
complete exhaustion of the newspaper guy's precious novelty
absence of a dislikable villain
(SPOILER) everybody discovering Spiderman's identity
Kirsten Dunst (again)
the end... my god, the end
Wow, talk about 180 degree opposing view points...
Oh well, we'll always have Michael Moore...
Quote from: GhostboyI can't decide whether this I think this or X2 is the best comic book movie ever .
that's if you don't ever watch any movies based on comic books outside the US.
Sorry, I should have said 'superhero' movie. It's definitely not the best comic book movie ever.
I still can't decide whether "comic book movie" is something worthy of having a "best of"...
Quote from: mutinycoI still can't decide whether "comic book movie" is something worthy of having a "best of"...
i can't decide whether i like you or not after that comment
OK, just got back from a midnight screening. My thoughts:
Well, first off, let me say that anyone that talks and yells stuff during movies is a douchebag and should be given the death sentence immediately. Exceptions: screenings of From Justin to Kelly or something like that. Anyways, not sure why anyone would pay to see Spiderman 2 at midnight opening day and then laugh at how "unrealistic" it is. ***SPOILER*** For example, the scene where Aunt May is danging by her umbrella. Everyone was just scoffing at how no umbrella could hold that weight. Meanwhile they're gasping at a fight between a man with four metallic arms with their own A.I. and a man who can shoot spiderwebs out of his wrists and climb the sides of buildings. So frustrating . . . Just sit down in your seat and shut the fuck up. How hard is that?
The movie: Superior to the first, as most expected. Sure, the dialogue is shaky, but what do you expect? And, really, who cares? I didn't go into the theater looking for some nuanced exploration of Peter and Mary Jane's love, I just wanted to see him kick Doctor Octupus' ass. And this asskicking is portrayed well. I don't mean to say that Peter and MJ's relationship isn't important and that I don't care about it. It's critical to the whole Spiderman story. I'm just saying that if the dialogue gets kind of cheesy sometimes, I don't really mind because this is a superhero story. It's going to be a little over the top. So, overall, I'm completely satisfied with the movie.
Oh, and the ending . . . Kind of weak, but it did get me excited for Spiderman 3.
Just got back from it and i have to say I liked it much more than the original. Spider-man 2 has a better villain, more memorable scenes & a story that doesn't have to worry about as much exposition. My only complaint is the early scenes between Peter & Mary Jane weren't very good. This is a big deal since the whole essence of Spider-Man/Peter Parker rests on his relationship with MJ. Also some of the CGI isn't that great, but that's minor. My other complaint is the annoying fucks in the theatre who go to a midnight show of a film to make 'insightful' comments about how unrealistic the film is (just ask UncleJoey). Overall, I give it 4/5 stars. Not the best superhero film, Batman still takes first place..but I think this falls at #2.
Other thoughts:
-Anyone else think the big train chase scene was French Connection influenced.
-Are Kirsten Dunst's boobs digitally enhanced?
I give this a full 5 out of 5 or a 4 out of 4 or A-grade or whatever you want!
I LOVED this movie! I expected to see one of the best films that I will see this year and I was not disappointed. Right now it's ranking as my second favorite of the year behind Eternal Sunshine. I'm am so high on this movie it's wonderful!
Just as a lover of movies, this movie had everything I could possibly want in a movie. It worked for me on every level, I loved it. It was hilarious, moving, thoughtful, etc. Just saying that it's superior to the first doesn't do it justice--it is an absolutely fantastic film, period. One of the year's best for sure.
i saw it at midnite last night too. i have to see it again to form my opinion though. SPOILERS MINOR i thought the best two minutes of the film were when Doc Oc was waking up in the lab, which was SO RAIMI. i cant believe there was a goddamn chainsaw! END SPOILERS. i also agree about those fucking assholes in the theatre who wouldnt stop laughing at innappropriate parts.
The God Damn man saw it at midnight at this was the worst piece of crap movie i have ever seen. I mean he's a spider-man and yet, he only has 2 arms! What the hell is up with that? Also, why doesnt he just shove his penis into MJ's anus? Seriously though! I would violate her brown eye...
Anyway my final rating for this film was a 10/10
i liked it.
however, the "punch me! i bleed!" line was inexcusable.
I agree with The Modern Age's spoiler comments; those two minutes were like movie-geek overload, I could hardly take it. The audience was pretty good for me; a lot of people got those little jokes and there were cheers for the little Raimi in-jokes.
Saw it last night. I hadn't read any reviews or even been in this thread so my expectations were pretty low after hating the first one. Perhaps not as great as some people are making it out to be, but it was a good film. I should probably see it again though before i say something like that. It was good to see some "cryptic Sam Raimi tones" cause i am a fan of the Evil Dead trilogy. They virtually reused the score from the original which was kind of lame, and the main theme (as cool as it is) should be used more sparingly, like in the first one. I still cant understand why they used it when Spidey found out MJ was getting married. It's a fucking reprisal theme. The only time its been used brilliantly so far was during the costume montage in the first one. Just a minor complaint. I had no problem with Dr Octopus. Anyways, a great superhero, although I still think Batman Returns rains supreme.
all right....i haven t seen it yet.but i want to be prepared...i read JBs opinions and also wanted to know from others if you also verify that dunst was worthless/cheesy/unatural/ghetto?
thanks.....................
I liked Dunst. She was great, as far as I'm concerned. I've always liked Dunst as an actress, though, and I think she makes a good Mary-Jane. I'm glad Raimi didn't go with someone more "obvious" like Alicia Witt or something. Dunst isn't a "bombshell" type girl; she's a girl-next-door type girl, which is exactly what MJ is supposed to be.
I dunno, she works for me.
Just saw it... liked it quite a bit.
SPOILERS AHOY
I loved the awakening scene with Doc Oc too. It was so EFFING Raimi.
The whole movie in general was more raimi than the first. It's like he understood that everyone was going to see it so he could be free to be a little more himself.
Not the best superhero movie, that's Superman, but maybe third.
Some Similarities between this and X2:
-director second time around felt more comfortable with the material.
-got the background out of the way in the first, so the second could get it on quicker.
-left wide-open for a third movie that will most likely suck and lead to more even suckier sequels.
I loved this Flick. There were a few problems I saw with it but overall I really enjoyed it and it was very entertaining. I couldn't believe that I saw 4 year old kids in the theatre. One of them every once and a while was screaming at the screen "Go Spiderman" whenever Peter Parker took action as his alter ego. But, again, overall a very fun movie.
overall, it was good. bruce campbell's cameo made the movie for me.
Quote from: El Duderinooverall, it was good. bruce campbell's cameo made the movie for me.
That was funny.
10/10.
Quote from: El Duderinooverall, it was good. bruce campbell's cameo made the movie for me.
where was his cameo? PM me so it isn't spoiled.
EDIT: Nevermind, don't PM me. I found out.
I really loved this movie. It was everything I was hoping it could be, and in my opinion it had the right amount of ingredients: the f/x were very good, dialog overall was good considering the type of movie, and it had some very funny scenes.
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- The elevator scene is hilarious.
- When he stops the train and everyone sees his face, its excellent, and then all the people getting in the way protecting him fro Ock.
- Jonnah Jameson and all the scenes he is in there, so funny.
- when he is trying to get the powers back and he falls off the building over the car and then the alarm goes off.
Well there were so many scenes that I remember as very good, and so much I cant remember but I loved... I definetly enjoyed every minute of this movie and Raimi did a terrific job.
Quote from: El Duderinooverall, it was good. bruce campbell's cameo made the movie for me.
As good as Bruce's cameo was, it was so trumped by what can almost be considered a cameo by Donnell "Ashy Larry" Rawlings from Chappelle's Show.
The movie was phenomenal, such an improvement over the original (which was no slouch). That one scene in the hospital when Raimi goes ol skool was the best. And that freeze frame was comedic perfection.
even with its problems, i'm pretty sure i still think the first one is better, although i really want to see this one again before i am sure. i will say that SPOILERS MAJOR everyone in the fucking film finding out spider-mans identity was the king of all lame. doc oc, mary jane, harry osbourne, a whole trainful of people, SHIT! is there anyone who DOESNT know who he is at this point?!? as i feared months ago from the trailer, they would fall into that trap thinking the only way to create any drama is to have people find out who he is. (wrong). END SPOILERS also, the main conflict of the film seemed to be peter and mary jane, not doc oc. there was a section towards the middle of the film when you kind of forget he's in it, so he's hardly the driving force in the movie like you might think, which is weird, but okay. also SPOILERS now that they're together, they have now forfeited hte whole driving force behind the last two films, which is the romantic tension of WANTING but being unable to be together. its like kevin and winnie, ross and rachel, etc. etc. you WANT to see them together, but when they get together the writers have nothing else to do but break them up or put her in danger (again). END SPOILERS
'SPIDER-MAN 2' DOES SPECTACULAR ON WEDNESDAY
Source: BoxOfficeMojo
"Spider-Man 2" breaks the All Time Single Day Opening record for a Wednesday opening with an estimated $38.6 million take, beating The Lord of The Rings: The Return of The King first Wednesday take of $34.4 million and Star Wars: The Phantom Menace's $28.5 million. The sequel is looking towards breaking the All Time Weekend record as it just fell slightly short of its predecessor "Spider-Man" first day take of $39.4 million for a Friday opening.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackmangood
whip pans
the emergency room scene
cryptic Sam Raimi tones
bad
the dialogue
the story
complete exhaustion of the newspaper guy's precious novelty
absence of a dislikable villain
(SPOILER) everybody discovering Spiderman's identity
Kirsten Dunst (again)
the end... my god, the end
Ouch. Why did I read on after the (SPOILER)?
Quote from: meatballOuch. Why did I read on after the (SPOILER)?
yeah, same. let it be known that henceforth, all spoilers ought to be whited or at least reded.
I actually really liked it. The operating room scene, the operating room scene. I think the ending was pretty low, Harry finding his father's stash and all that. I think though I once heard someone say that Spiderman was the story of jesus, and the SPOILER part where he saves the train END SPOILER remainded me alot about that.
i saw it again with my little sis, and i have to say, it was better the second time around. and the operating room scene was unbelievably Raimi. Elfman's score was good too. the acting was so-so, alfred molina was good, but soooo out of place with the other actors involved. i kept picturing him in boogie nights miming the drumming for "sister christian" and i kept laughing throughout the movie because of it. and does anyone else think that Uncle Ben (why that name out of all the names in the world, oh stan lee) looks like Johnny Cash? maybe i'm alone.
EDIT: also SPOILER franco's reaction when he takes off spidey's mask. it was terrible
Oh yeah, and Alfred Molina was great.
Quote from: A Matter Of ChanceThe operating room scene, the operating room scene.
Yes. And if only the whole movie was like that, Spiderman 2 might have been as great as HULK.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: A Matter Of ChanceThe operating room scene, the operating room scene.
Yes. And if only the whole movie was like that, Spiderman 2 might have been as great as HULK.
Agreed. I thought the movie was good though, very Rami.
Quote from: themodernage02even with its problems, i'm pretty sure i still think the first one is better, although i really want to see this one again before i am sure. i will say that SPOILERS MAJOR everyone in the fucking film finding out spider-mans identity was the king of all lame. doc oc, mary jane, harry osbourne, a whole trainful of people, SHIT! is there anyone who DOESNT know who he is at this point?!? as i feared months ago from the trailer, they would fall into that trap thinking the only way to create any drama is to have people find out who he is. (wrong). END SPOILERS also, the main conflict of the film seemed to be peter and mary jane, not doc oc. there was a section towards the middle of the film when you kind of forget he's in it, so he's hardly the driving force in the movie like you might think, which is weird, but okay. also SPOILERS now that they're together, they have now forfeited hte whole driving force behind the last two films, which is the romantic tension of WANTING but being unable to be together. its like kevin and winnie, ross and rachel, etc. etc. you WANT to see them together, but when they get together the writers have nothing else to do but break them up or put her in danger (again). END SPOILERS
I don't see how SPOILER all the people on the train finding out who he is is so problematic for a lot of you. No one knew who Peter Parker was -- all any of them could have said to the press was "it's just some kid." That he didn't have the mask on during that scene made it so much more powerful and emotional, simply because you could see his face. And when everyone carried him back onto the train and are surprised at how young he is...that was a great moment. When they all face off against Doc Ock when he pops up again, it's very of reminiscent of that cheesy "you mess with him, you mess with us" bit in the first Spider-Man, bur Raimi flips it by having Doc Ock plow through them all without a thought.
As for MJ and Harry learning his identity as well -- Harry's creates GOOD drama, I think, whereas Mary Jane's discovery may take something away from the future films but it sure gave this one an amazing ending. When she first realizes who he was, while he's holding up that wall, that was such a triumphant scene...I had tears in my eyes. I guess I'm a sucker. END SPOILER
Saw it.
Loved the cheesy camp comic book dialogue.
Great action scenes.
.. a little weak on some of the merits of Spiderman himself.
(Would he really just walk away from a guy being mugged in an alley?)
Overall though, 7/10.
Superheroic Box Office For Spider-Man 2
Source: Los Angeles Times
"Spider-Man 2" is casting an even bigger box office net than its blockbuster predecessor and is on pace to cross the $200-million mark faster than any other movie.
The Peter Parker sequel grossed $40.5 million in its first full day of release in U.S. theaters Wednesday, Sony Pictures Entertainment said Thursday. Sony's original "Spider-Man," released in 2002, had ticket sales of $39.4 million in its first day at the multiplex and ultimately grossed $403.7 million, making it the fifth highest-grossing film of all time (although "Shrek 2" will pass it this weekend).
"People really, really like the movie," said Amy Pascal, chairwoman of Sony's motion picture group. "We didn't overhype it but made people want to see it."
Just saw it and surprisingly liked it. Fav scene was the elevator. Very funny. "It itches. And it rides up a bit in the croch." (paraphrased).
Wasnt familiar with what a Raimi scene was but the hospital scene really stood out. I was wondering how far he would take it and then realized it was a comic book movie and they probably wouldnt show blood spurting all over the place. This isnt the Texas Chainsaw Massacre after all. (I agree with the bad line about bleeding, BTW).
Stupid but i sort of laughed at the roll of 20's and I found the rubber band joke. Everyone was a beautiful person. Loved the tie choices and love the striped shirt with the pinstripe suit worn by Harry. Good wardrobe person.
Superior to the first. Good character development.
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Wasnt familiar with what a Raimi scene was but the hospital scene really stood out. I was wondering how far he would take it and then realized it was a comic book movie and they probably wouldnt show blood spurting all over the place. This isnt the Texas Chainsaw Massacre after all. (I agree with the bad line about bleeding, BTW).
go rent Evil Dead.
This movie SUCKED! I LOVED the first one, but this was awful. First off, why did Peter have a talk with his dead uncle? How corny and wacked was that? And then, what's up with Doc Oc changing his mind about being a villain???? Totally unbelievable. What a disappointment.
no way man. stuff like that is what gave it that great "comic book" feel.
Quote from: GhostboyQuote from: themodernage02even with its problems, i'm pretty sure i still think the first one is better, although i really want to see this one again before i am sure. i will say that SPOILERS MAJOR everyone in the fucking film finding out spider-mans identity was the king of all lame. doc oc, mary jane, harry osbourne, a whole trainful of people, SHIT! is there anyone who DOESNT know who he is at this point?!? as i feared months ago from the trailer, they would fall into that trap thinking the only way to create any drama is to have people find out who he is. (wrong). END SPOILERS also, the main conflict of the film seemed to be peter and mary jane, not doc oc. there was a section towards the middle of the film when you kind of forget he's in it, so he's hardly the driving force in the movie like you might think, which is weird, but okay. also SPOILERS now that they're together, they have now forfeited hte whole driving force behind the last two films, which is the romantic tension of WANTING but being unable to be together. its like kevin and winnie, ross and rachel, etc. etc. you WANT to see them together, but when they get together the writers have nothing else to do but break them up or put her in danger (again). END SPOILERS
I don't see how SPOILER all the people on the train finding out who he is is so problematic for a lot of you. No one knew who Peter Parker was -- all any of them could have said to the press was "it's just some kid." That he didn't have the mask on during that scene made it so much more powerful and emotional, simply because you could see his face. And when everyone carried him back onto the train and are surprised at how young he is...that was a great moment. When they all face off against Doc Ock when he pops up again, it's very of reminiscent of that cheesy "you mess with him, you mess with us" bit in the first Spider-Man, bur Raimi flips it by having Doc Ock plow through them all without a thought.
As for MJ and Harry learning his identity as well -- Harry's creates GOOD drama, I think, whereas Mary Jane's discovery may take something away from the future films but it sure gave this one an amazing ending. When she first realizes who he was, while he's holding up that wall, that was such a triumphant scene...I had tears in my eyes. I guess I'm a sucker. END SPOILER
alright, i saw it again. i REALLY wanted to like it better, but i really didnt. if the first film was a near perfect comic film for me, with only a few flaws that appeared upon repeat viewings this was a sort of messed up one with good moments, but nowhere near as great (or disastrous) as it could have been.
i'd say for me, the first Spider-Man (judging by its own merits) was a 4/5. the major flaws being the power rangers awkwardness of the staging of a few scenes, any goofy modern rock inserted into the film, kirsten dunsts awful hair, the new yorker pride scene, and green goblins awful costume. other than those, i had a great time and was really blown away when i first saw it. with the budget and creative control opened up by the huge success of the first, it should've been easy for Raimi and Co. to make the 5/5 Spider-Man film. from everything i had been hearing about the film, it seemed it was heading in that direction.
but something went wrong along the way and it seemed to miss the mark for me. the comic opening pizza delivery, although amusing i thought was wrong for a film that otherwise seemed so drama heavy. the PP/MJ stuff, as hard as they tried to make it the focus of the film, really just didnt work for me this time. it wasnt as believable and i just didnt feel it. the aunt may doc oc scene was just too friggin comic-booky. the first movie a wall blows up behind her and she's in the hospital on teh brink of death and in this one she's thrown up and down a building and she doesnt snap in half? SHE doesnt have superpowers, they needed to reign it back down to earth there.
to GB, i think the Passion of the Parker scene would've worked for me had the new yorkers silently blocked oc's path and not said the oh so cheesy 'you'll have to get through us first' type of line. a defiant stance would've worked better ( i think instead). and i'm sure
SPOILERS the reveal of hte identity was probably neccesary to SOMEONE in the film. you have to admit the writers are really really lazy if thats the ONLY thing they think they can up the drama with. seriously, FOUR times in one film is way way overdone. if they HAD to tell harry, fine. or if they HAD to tell mary jane, fine. but they really needed to pick and choose whose storyline needed it more, because everyone finding out is weak as hell. and they're shooting themselves in teh foot for future movies. also, if mary jane is the only person who can get kidnapped by teh villian, its already too old, NOW what?!?
END SPOILERS anyways, i thought the first one really did a much better job telling its story. it hit the right notes most of the time and this one was much more of a mess. this one spent most of the movie dwelling on character, that really didnt work, and the action was few and far between. (plus will never be as thrilling as the FIRST time you're swinging through the city with him). there were some great parts (like the hospital scene), but they were too few to string together something really special. i'm really surprised so many people liked this one better than the first film. if i had to grade i'd say Spider-Man 4/5. and Spider-Man 2 3/5. oh well, time to change the av.
To be honest, I strongly disliked Spider-Man and so my expectations for Spider-Man 2 were not too much higher. I never understood what everyone seemed to like so much about the first one, maybe they liked what I hated (the cheesy dialogue, the big effects sequences, the Green Goblin's constume -- well, maybe not the Green Goblin's costume). Either way, I found myself really enjoying Spider-Man 2 and here's why....
I found the story and the character interactions to be much stronger in 2. Instead of stringing together a bunch of action sequences on tiny threads of plausability and believability, much of the action was grounded in the characters. That didn't make the action scenes any more "plausible," but it made me more willing to watch and enjoy those sequences because I actually gave a damn about those involved. Although some have displayed a disinterest in the Parker/MJ love story, I found their struggles with emotion, responsibility, perception and doubt to also help give the story some credibility. Those struggles are much like struggles anyone involved in a relationship deals with, regardless of hiding a GIANT secret. Although Dunst isn't the best, I never felt she completely "blew it."
AHOY, SPOILERS AHEAD!
All the business of Spider-Man's identity being seen by so many people I did think was maybe a bit much, but, it was definately not the easy way to go regarding the next films. It will be interesting to see what the writers do with Parker's identity and those who know about it in 3. I liked Molina's Otto Octavius and liked the inner-struggle he was having. I think it would have helped punctuate the finale of the film if we had seen more of this struggle toward the middle of the film. Why does Doc Ock care about seeing Peter Parker at the end yet not earlier when he throws him against the wall? But, it is things like this I was ultimately able to look over because I cared about the characters and enjoyed seeing the story play out. The film still has its problems, but I felt it was a far more worthy vehicle than the first Spider-Man.
IT'S SAFE TO COME OUT NOW.
*MINOR SPOILERS*I'm kinda with my other half on this one (mod-age), but not to his extreme and the identity revealing didn't bother me as much. After seeing it, I didn't get all the hype over this film like it's the best thing since slided bread.
Quote from: GhostboyIn fact, it's so character-based that the conflict with Doc Ock sort of gets left by the wayside, making him the least satisfactory part of the movie.
And that's my main complaint. While I'm all for characters being first and foremost, the film is so drama-based, there really isn't much action (which wasn't all that memorable anyway) for an action movie and the villain is really set aside for the "soap opera" story.
There has been debate over Dunst and her acting (who I felt did a better job this time around), but I think the focus should be put of Franco and his awful 'anger through clinched teeth' acting.
But I did have fun time with it. Yes, Raimi did put a lot more of his techniques in use here (the operation scene, but also the snap zooms after Doc. Ock throws the car through the cafe window are remnicient of the hand making scenes in "Evil Dead 2" and "Army of Darkness"), but I still think Raimi hasn't come close to the brilliance of his work on "Darkman" with these Spider-Man films.
And, although I objected to the over-development of characters, I did like how this film continued to make them 'human'. Many humorous moments (the laundry and elevator scenes and the "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" montage), making Spidey 'impotent', comments like "He's just a kid, no older than my son," but what I thought was the best scene (yes, even better than the operating scene) was when Peter confesses to Aunt May about the night Uncle Ben died. That was powerful.
But I'm just thankful Macy Gray had no part in this film.
*Itsy, bitsy spoilers*
First off, I thought the acting was overall pretty good. I thought Franco did a good job, I mean, he was obnoxiously charismatic when he had to be (like when he was running his father's business), but since he has the angry 'green goblin' in him, he is an angry character. He was really good at the 'tormented' look (which really worked for him in the James Dean biopic as well). I just have a problem with Dunst being Mary Jane in the first place. Nothing against her acting (it was okay), but more of how she doesn't really embody the character as well as I had hoped. I think Alfred Molina was wonderful and I really liked how the bad guy was so intriguing. Tobey MacGuire completely disappears into character, which is great, especially in a superhero movie. You don't want the lead talent to stand out from the character (*cough*George Clooney as Batman*cough*). Overall, I thought this movie was a good addition to the first. I loved the opening credits with the wonderful comic book drawings of scenes from the first movie. Yes, the operating room sequence was disturbing and great. My favorite scene was when Doc Ock and his wife (Donna Murphy, who was radiant in her small role) are discribing how they met. It just made *MAJOR SPOILER* her death even more heartbreaking.**end SPOILER* Overall, I enjoyed it.
and i saw it
and i liked it
i really thought that it will be worst than the first one but i'm glad i was wrong...
liked:
-Tobey Maguire (again, a very good Peter Parker)
-J.K. Simmons (loved every scene he appeared, so funny!)
-"Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" scene (loved it!)
-Rosemary Harris (specially in the Peter's confession scene, in fact that scene is pretty good)
-Elevator scene (i laughed a lot!)
-Alfred Molina (i liked more than Dafoe, and i like Dafoe but Spider Man is not one of his best works)
-The villain (shows, in a better way than with Green Goblin, how power can turn a nice person into a villain)
-Operation Room scene (pretty goooooooood)
disliked:
-Franco (i didn't like him in the first one but in this one is worst)
-The scene when people in the train hold up Maguire like a rock'n roll star (ridiculous)
-"You're different" dialogue (?)
-Some special effects
-Cafe scene
But generally i liked Spiderman 2 much more than the first one, a good job of Raimi
so.....all they had to do was put that thing that was as strong as the sun in the river? just throw a cup of water on that fucker and that'll take care of it! that was really stupid.
Um... you do realize that you were watching SPIDERMAN right?
a guy that shoots fully formed webs and fights a guy with robo-arms that have AI and control his mind.
*SPOILERS*
From Entertainment Weekly:
Is Ock's device a scientific possibility or comic-book fantasy?
Actually, Ock's experiment is "Not too far from being reality," says the American Physical Society's James Riordon. Fusion - when nuclei combine in a power-generating reaction (like the sun) - is "one of the most promising areas of energy research."
Ock's fusion has a gravitational pull powerful enough to rip the jewelry off bystanders. Ever lose a watch in the lab?
"They are among the most powerful magnetic fields generated in a laboratory setting," Riordon says, "but they don't affect anything outside [the reaction]."
And Spidey's idea to defuse the device by dumping it into the river?
Overkill. "It takes a lot of effort to make this thing run at all," Riordon says. "You could stop it just by bumping it a little."
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And was it me or was the exterior of the hospital the same one used in "Royal Tenenbaums?"
I thought this sequel was terrific. Better than the first one with smarter dialogue, better action and character development.
Agreed. I was shocked to find out it was the same writer who wrote "Ordinary People".
In my opinion this was the best superhero movie I ever saw.
Raimi's so cool.
*ADMIN EDIT - SPOILERS*
PS> Can anyone get a still of William Defoe's appearance in tha tmovie where he's standing in the door way with his hands out and he says, "Im here".
Me and my friend constantly joke about that line.
did anybody else think that, at first, when the end credits began to roll that it was "Yellow" by Coldplay? Dashboard Confessional totally stole that riff.
Enjoyed the hell out of it. Thought it was waaay better than the first. I reckon Raimi really nailed this one. The action was bigger and more intense & Maguire was excellent. Loved how it all ended despite what many say. If more blockbusters were of this caliber they wouldn't be as looked-down-upon.
I saw it again this evening and loved it even more. I was surprised by how much it still managed to surprise/thrill/move me, even though I (technically) knew what was about to happen. It's something I feel to rarely when I see a movie more than once.
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Just saw it, and like the most of you, I liked it better than the first. Especially how it showed that no matter how serious it becomes, it knows its place as a comicbook flick with the freeze-frame during the happy times montage, J.K. Simmons even wilder than in the first, "Here comes the bride"-overload at the end, the way the girl next door manages to set her dinner on fire out of nervousness, and every small Raimi touch, never better than (it's been said countless times) the operating scene.
I realized after leaving the theater how perfect Raimi is for a superhero film, I just hope he makes the inevitable nr. 3 even more Raimish, and for the love of all geeks out there, give Bruce Campbell as major part. As for favorite moments, I gotta say when MJ is kidnapped and Parker decides to return as Spider-Man, trowing the glasses, clenching the fist, the superhero look, man, that's goosebumps material right there! The "He's just a kid" scene on the train hit the right spots as well as the look on Mary Janes face as she sees him without the mask for the first time, and call me sentimental but I thought she delivered the (extremely cheesy) "I'm standing here in your doorway"-line really well (don't really remember if that was the one, but I'm talking about the line where she laughs).
"I've always been standing in your doorway."
I swear I'm still smiling when I think of this movie. I really think that that freeze frame is in the running for best freeze frame of all time. It's definitely up there.
I think the upside down kiss from the first one is definitely up there with the greatest movie kisses of all time...on the basis of new iconic imagery alone.
What upside down kiss?
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Haha I know, I just said that in the hopes that someone would post some pictures cuz that scene was HOT!
Thanks, Cronopio.
Quote from: matt35mmHaha I know, I just said that in the hopes that someone would post some pictures cuz that scene was HOT!
Thanks, Cronopio.
i feel...used. :(
I liked it better than the first one.
You're so funny, Ravi.
Anyway...
Quote from: El Duderinodid anybody else think that, at first, when the end credits began to roll that it was "Yellow" by Coldplay? Dashboard Confessional totally stole that riff.
Eh, I didn't think that. But I would like to say that I, as well as a few people I talked to, don't particularly like Dashboard Confessional but I REALLY DIG "Vindicated!" Beats the hell outta "Hero" from the first movie. I think it fits the movie pretty well.
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I swear I'm still smiling when I think of this movie. I really think that that freeze frame is in the running for best freeze frame of all time. It's definitely up there.
I don't see how it even compares to the freeze frame in The 400 Blows.
Shame on you SHAFTR for not mentioning the Good, Bad and the Ugly freezes :wink:
Quote from: WithnailShame on you SHAFTR for not mentioning the Good, Bad and the Ugly freezes :wink:
Ohhhh, agreed.
Just saw it, I liked it a lot. Didn't read the rest of the thread, but did you guys also feel like this a lot like Batman Returns in the sense that, after a blockbuster, the auteur/directors were able to make a sequel darker and better that the original? By the way, this and Batman Returns are Elfman's finest scores.
I thought I heard a little bit of the Beetlejuice score in this film.
Loved this so much. What a great movie. I hear ya about the "freeze frame". Saw a kid in a spiderman outfit on my way out, walking with his dad back to the car park, and the sincerity of some the more sentimental speeches shone through to me. All that stuff about Heroes, responsibility, courage - thats great, innocent stuff. Can't wait to see it again.
Right up there with the original Batman as probably the best super-hero movie so far. Molina really brought a lot to this one, the first villian in a long time that actually felt dangerous.
Quote from: Derekfirst villian in a long time that actually felt dangerous.
Yeah, in both of his minutes on screen.
DVD Release
Source: www.davisdvd.com
Release Date: November 19.
This will be the first version of this Film as Raimi as said that another extended release of Spiderman 2 called Spiderman 2.5 will be out later on.
yahoo news (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20040820/va_tv_ne/sony_taking_its_time_to_spin_spidey_on_1)
Sony taking its time to spin Spidey on DVD
Sony is taking a DVD gamble with its biggest movie of the year.
Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment is releasing "Spider-Man 2" to DVD on Nov. 30. Date is a month later than the release of the original, back in 2002.
Last time around, CTHE shipped millions more than actually sold, a problem that could be curbed this time with the new strategy.
Sked move also allows "Seinfeld" to receive more attention, as the series DVD set will be released just before the Thanksgiving holiday.
The original "Spider-Man" went on to generate nearly $400 million in consumer spending on the purchase and rental of the homevideo release -- about what the pic generated in its domestic theatrical release.
"Spider-Man 2" has grossed a somewhat-smaller $361 million in U.S. theaters so far, but the difference, unit topper Ben Feingold says, is not enough to cause a decline in the video revenue. He notes that the number of homes with DVD players has grown by 50% since the original was released two years ago. More than 4.5 million copies of the original were sold on VHS.
CTHE is also offering a two-pack with DVDs of both movies (SRP $39.95).
Pic will also be offered simultaneously in CTHE's proprietary Superbit format with superior picture quality but no bonus features.
Feingold says that the "Seinfeld" release is not affecting the release strategy for "Spider-Man 2."
CTHE will load up the first DVD edition of "Spider-Man 2" with 10 hours' worth of bonus features and commentaries.
I'd wait for the 3 disc Deluxe Edition.
Title: Spider-Man 2
Starring: Tobey Maguire
Released: 30th November 2004
SRP: $29.96 (2-Disc)
Further Details
We've now managed to obtain further details on Spider-Man 2 which stars Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and Alfred Molina. As we have already reported, the film will be available to own from the 30th November this year. What we hadn't already reported is that it will be available in five seperate editions - a standard two-disc set (in seperate widescreen and full screen editions), a Superbit edition (complete with a DTS track), a double-pack containing the first and second films and finally a limited edition giftset. The giftset will include the two-disc edition along with a new miniature reproduction of The Amazing Spider-Man #50 comic book (in which Peter Parker decides to give up his alter ego) five postcards and a twenty-five page portfolio featuring well-known comic book artists' works inspired by the film. The retail price for this will be around $49.95. We've attached the full specs for the standard release below, along with the artwork.
Disc One
2.40:1 Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation
English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Track
French Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Track
English Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround Track
French Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround Track
Audio Commentary with Director, Producer, Co-Producer and Tobey Maguire
Audio Commentary with SFX Designer John Dykstra and the Effects Team
Spidey Sense 2 Trivia Track with "Pop Up" Facts
Four Web-i-sodes (Original Online Featurettes)
Train "Ordinary" Music Video
Spider-Man 2 Blooper Reel
Multiple Trailers and Previews
Disc Two
Making the Amazing: 12-Part Production to Premiere Documentary
Hero in Crisis: A Look into Peter Parker's Personal Battles
Eight Arms to Hold You: Doc Ock from Comics to the Big Screen
The Women of Spider-Man: A Look into the Lives of Mary Jane, Aunt May etc
Enter the Web: Multi-Angle Look at the Pier Sequence
Art Gallery: A Collection of Alex Ross Paintings
A Behind the Scenes Look at the Spider-Man 2 Game
English, French and Spanish Subtitles
Weblink to the Official Spider-Man 2 Website
Easter Egg: Doc Ock Sings "If I Was a Rich Man"
dvd covers (http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=4684&n=1&burl=)
I don't know why I expected the DVD covers to be better than the first one. Probably just because the movie was.
The Gift Set looks nice, though, I think. The regular edition just looks so... yellow.
Thanks for the link.
Director Raimi To Film New Scenes for 'Spider-Man 2.5'
Not only does Sony plan to release the Spider-Man 2 DVD in November, but it also plans to release Spider-Man 2.5, with additional action and effects scenes next year, director Sam Raimi has told the website IGN.com. It is really not a matter of his wanting to release a director's extended cut of the film, Raimi indicated. "Sony said to me, 'We want to release a 2.5,' because they want to make more money. It's not really that I had some scenes to put in. The movie really was the best I could make it. It's not like I think I could make it better." Asked why the studio is waiting until next year to release the extended version, Raimi responded: "It's just a financial decision by the studio. They know that people who liked the second movie would want to own it as it is on DVD, and then it's just a gamble. 'Oh, if we spend another four million dollars, can we make another ten million dollars?' I think that's how it works."
i hate hollywood.
haha, sam raimi informing us that Rick Sands is now at Sony....
I appreciate Raimi's honesty.
Quote from: RaviI appreciate Raimi's honesty.
I appreciate his honesty and his talent at making sequels that are better than the originals. I'll buy it.
I'm divided over which version to buy. Which version do you all plan on buying (for those who plan to buy the movie)?
Quote from: matt35mmI'm divided over which version to buy. Which version do you all plan on buying (for those who plan to buy the movie)?
I plan on buying hahaha.
Now, see? Look what Fellini started.
They should call the next one SpiderMan 3: The Adult.
Sony slinging 'Spidey 2' in 4K resolution
For the first time, an entire feature film will be projected digitally in 4K resolution when Sony Electronics debuts its next generation digital projector with a screening of "Spider-Man 2."
Set to take place Jan. 13 at the Hollywood Pacific Theater, the ground-breaking d-cinema exhibition offers two different divisions of Sony -- Sony Electronics and Sony Pictures Digital, along with its Sony Pictures Imageworks and sound mixing units -- the opportunity to come together to display their most advanced technologies. Fortuitously, the screening also will permit Sony to show off a pristine digital print of "Spider-Man 2" to an important cross-section of industry cognoscente in the midst of awards season.
Sony's first full-length 4K d-cinema display will be preceded by a behind-the-scenes presentation and panel discussion on "Spider-Man 2's" sound design, editing and visual effects work at the industry screening hosted by the Entertainment Technology Center's Digital Cinema Lab.
"Not only is Sony showcasing advances in digital projection," said Andrew Stucker, general manager of digital production systems at Sony Electronics, "but we're also highlighting the technology and the tools Sony has developed that support the artist and the art of filmmaking."
To that end, members of industry groups interested in d-cinema -- such as the DGA, the American Society of Cinematographers, the Motion Picture Editors Guild, the Motion Picture Sound Editors and the Visual Effects Society -- are expected to be invited to the screening, Stucker said.
"We were very excited by the possibility of doing this," said Don Levy, senior vp marketing and communications at Sony Pictures Entertainment. "We see it as an opportunity to expose the film and the projector to a wider industry audience and create excitement around seeing an exciting movie."
Although the timing could benefit "Spider-Man's" awards hopes, Sony execs insisted that the demonstration, which requires different parts of the company to work together closely, is not just an awards season gambit but came about organically.
"Even going back 10 years there's always been a desire from a top corporate level for the companies to find common ground," Stucker said. "But it's never been a forced issue by any stretch. We're in independent business groups, but if we can find opportunities for our objectives to align, then by all means it is encouraged and taken up by smart people like Don Levy."
Levy said that the timing was predicated on the availability of the projector as well as having an original 4K master of "Spider-Man 2."
Sony's 4K projector debuted in June at ETC and was taken back to the lab because of issues of shading and color uniformity. Execs had planned to show the tweaked projector again this month or early in the new year.
The new d-cinema projector displays 4K (4096 x 2160) resolution, and "Spider-Man 2" is one of the first films mastered at 4K resolution, execs said. As a result, the screening will be the first to demonstrate a closed-loop of 4K digital technology from master to display.
Although the visual effects in "Spider-Man 2" were created in 2K resolution, as is standard for most visual effects shots, execs said that the resolution of the shots was increased to 4K during the digital intermediate mastering process at eFilm.
"All the original camera negative was scanned to 4K," said Al Barton, vp digital cinema technology at Sony Pictures Entertainment. He said that about 43% of the film is unadulterated 4K camera negative, which does not contain visual effects shots.
The "Spider-Man 2" d-cinema master is 9.6 terabytes, pulled from a working total of 40-50 TBs of footage created during the filmmaking process. The film will be projected uncompressed from a master server -- in this case, the Silicon Graphics Onyx advanced visualization and SGI InfiniteStorage RM660 storage systems.
"We don't have the time to compress to the (DCI-compliant) JPEG2000 specification," Barton said. "For our next tests we will be looking at hours and hours of pictures compressed and uncompressed. Our main focus is showing that we have a digital system in place that has the ability to show better than a 35mm answer print.
That would be so boss to see. Too bad the CGI was at 2K.
Quote from: matt35mmThat would be so boss to see.
i like your energy but please refrain from using that word again.
thanks
Sony has just officially announced that a Spider-Man 2.1: Extended Cut DVD will be released on 4/17 (SLP $19.94). The 2-disc set will include 8 minutes of new footage added back into the film. Video will be anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Extras will include an introduction by producers Grant Curtis and Avi Arad, the Inside 2.1 featurette, audio commentary by producer Laura Ziskin and screenwriter Alvin Sargent, and an exclusive sneak peak at the upcoming Spider-Man 3.
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he's jumping right into octopus. tactical mistake.
This double-dip is completely necessary.
Marvel spins Spider-Man into Broadway musical
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Get ready for "Spider-Man: The Broadway Musical."
That may not be the official title, but Marvel Studios is putting the pieces together for a musical on the Great White Way starring the popular superhero, which will be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project.
Auditions are taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. No dates for a Broadway opening have been set.
Producing are Hello Entertainment/David Garfinkle, Martin McCallum, Marvel Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment. In addition to co-producing the show, Hello Entertainment is arranging all financing for the project.
While the Spider-Man musical marks the first time a Marvel character has been the subject of a Broadway show, it's not the first time a superhero has hit the stage. Superman was in the spotlight of "It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman," which opened at the Alvin Theatre in 1966. Despite fairly positive reviews, it closed a few months later.
Before becoming Marvel chairman, David Maisel spearheaded the 1999 best musical Tony winner "Fosse."
Taymor won two Tonys for direction and costume design for the Broadway production of "The Lion King."
Quote from: MacGuffin on April 20, 2007, 12:57:41 AM
Marvel spins Spider-Man into Broadway musical
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Get ready for "Spider-Man: The Broadway Musical."
That may not be the official title, but Marvel Studios is putting the pieces together for a musical on the Great White Way starring the popular superhero, which will be directed by Tony winner Julie Taymor, with U2's Bono and the Edge creating new music and lyrics for the project.
Auditions are taking place, and a reading is scheduled for the summer. No dates for a Broadway opening have been set.
Producing are Hello Entertainment/David Garfinkle, Martin McCallum, Marvel Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment. In addition to co-producing the show, Hello Entertainment is arranging all financing for the project.
While the Spider-Man musical marks the first time a Marvel character has been the subject of a Broadway show, it's not the first time a superhero has hit the stage. Superman was in the spotlight of "It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman," which opened at the Alvin Theatre in 1966. Despite fairly positive reviews, it closed a few months later.
Before becoming Marvel chairman, David Maisel spearheaded the 1999 best musical Tony winner "Fosse."
Taymor won two Tonys for direction and costume design for the Broadway production of "The Lion King."
they did one of these at the universal studios theme park. it was fucking hot-larious. they sang bonnie tyler's "holding out for a hero." let's hope this one's just as good, considering it costs just as much money and they don't have jaws.