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Can this ever be as cool as the original???
No trailer yet, but here's something scarier than the original:
Producer Note: This horror remake is the dream project of director Michael Bay, famous for his bombastic style, as evidenced in explosion-filled movies like Armageddon, The Rock and Pearl Harbor. This is a (relatively) low-budget project for him, and he's producing, not directing, but there has to be some guessing that perhaps Bay's "blow-em-up" techniques will be transferred to this... um... "cut-em-up" genre stalwart. Michael Bay *did* direct a three-minute promo short to help with international sales, which reportedly was the talk of AFM. Hopefully, that promo short will be on the inevitable DVD.
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According to Rolling Stone, shock rocker Marilyn Manson will be providing the film's score.
Quote from: MacGuffinNo trailer yet, but here's something scarier than the original:
Producer Note: This horror remake is the dream project of director Michael Bay, famous for his bombastic style, as evidenced in explosion-filled movies like Armageddon, The Rock and Pearl Harbor. This is a (relatively) low-budget project for him, and he's producing, not directing, but there has to be some guessing that perhaps Bay's "blow-em-up" techniques will be transferred to this... um... "cut-em-up" genre stalwart. Michael Bay *did* direct a three-minute promo short to help with international sales, which reportedly was the talk of AFM. Hopefully, that promo short will be on the inevitable DVD.
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According to Rolling Stone, shock rocker Marilyn Manson will be providing the film's score.
Does that sound kinda retarded to anyone else?
I actually like Michael Bay.
Hey? Did you hear that? What little credibility I had left just went down the toilet. Oh well.
I don't hate Bay as much as everyone else here, I just don't think his super-fast style is gonna suit a flick like this. But he's only producing, so maybe he'll pick a helmer with a more restrained approach.
I'm just choked about the Manson soundtrack. There's nothing that kills mood like thrasher music.
How dare they. How dare they. :evil:
Fucking Michael Bay....*Fists clenched, shaking*
i really hate michael bay, but im gonna have to see this anyway
oh boy. im gonna have to see this, no matter how dissapointed i probably will be
nobody liked mansons score for resident evil?
Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedoh boy. im gonna have to see this, no matter how dissapointed i probably will be
nobody liked mansons score for resident evil?
I think people sometimes confuse 'score' with 'soundtrack'.
I read a while back that they're going for less of a slasher movie, and more "moody", without explicit violence. That being said, I have no idea why they're even bothering.
Indeed. Leave it to that fucker to ruin a perfectly great slasher film with exhausted Hollywood formula......
Gonna smoke a cig, calm down a bit.
http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=402
http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/thetexaschainsawmassacre/trailer_lg.html
Well, there you are.
I had always heard that Hooper was gonna direct this one.
This will probably just plain suck ass.
though I'm sure I'll see it
Quote from: RegularKarateThis will probably just plain suck ass though I'm sure I'll see it
exactly. exactly. and THAT right there is why this exists. because it doesnt matter if it sucks. and even the more informed/educated/sophisticated moviegoers who KNOW it will suck (like us), will STILL GO. just to see if it does. the built in audience is why there are these needless remakes (and needless sequels for that matter). why remake something that still holds up today? $$$ thats the only reason. they've got our money, and they could care less about shitting on the original. which is still probably the scariest or atleast the freakiest movie i've ever seen. i doubt that this will be able to do half that. with its "faux gritty" look. and decent budget. the original is so freaky because it seems so real. its gritty and low budget and seems like a documentary at times. and thats scary. and what gives me even more faith in this is that the writer and director are both first-timers. wow, how incredibly daring of them.
The poster is a lot classier than I expected. I was was expecting something like, blood splattered on a wall or a pic of a chainsaw or something. This movie might be alright. Apparently, the upcoming trailer is supposed to be really good (according to moviehole.net).
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If the web-planets are aligned, this should be leatherface
P.S. I get freaked when the trailer says "Travis County, TX"
it looks too clean. they dont GET IT
Just saw it, I think it looks quite promising.
Quote from: RegularKarateI had always heard that Hooper was gonna direct this one.
Not direct, but...
Screenwriter Note: Before Scott Kosar came aboard, Tobe Hooper (cowriter of The Mangler) and Kim Henkel (The Return of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre), the writing team behind the original film, also did some work on a draft, but Kosar will be starting from scratch. They had actually started working on the idea of a TCM remake before Bay came aboard.
I was surprised by the visual quality. Not as clean as the original, but I think it holds a LOT of promise. Excellent. And I loved the camera effects from the original opening sequence used to good effect. More excellence.
it's apparent from the fucking trailer that its gonna be too overkill......it's gonna be too over the top, not that the original wasnt but this one is going to be too too much......too professional, too clean, the house is too fucking big, the lighting's too good, there's alot of rushing water - everything. just too much, too much. theyre going to rape the original up the ass.
ill still see it tho, probably, outta curiosity.......
The trailer looked promising, though I'm against this film on general princible. One note of promise is that it was photographed by Danny Pearl, who did the original. He's subsequently become one of the most successful music video cinematographers, working mostly with Wayne Isham.
Hmmmmm, it looks a lot better than I thought it would look
Quote from: tremoloslothHmmmmm, it looks a lot better than I thought it would look
I concur.
I really dug the trailer (except for the Produced By Michael Bay part). I'll see the movie. But of course, I'd see it even if the trailer sucked. But at least now I'm looking forward to it.
I just saw the trailer. I like the the soundtrack:this mortal coil (tim buckley original song to the siren) also in lost highway.
I think it will suck. I will only see it if I see the original first.
Did any of you see Ed Gein? It's the story that inspired TCM. I liked that one, it looked very real, the guy did look like a serious mentalcase. Ther is another film about this: Deranged (1974), I never saw that one.
I knew I'd heard that song before. That was the one thing sorely missing from the Lost Highway soundtrack.
I actually haven't seen the original TCM. I think I'll have a little double feature of sorts come October...which one should I watch first (keeping in mind that I'm keeping an open mind to the remake)?
Quote from: GhostboyI actually haven't seen the original TCM. I think I'll have a little double feature of sorts come October...which one should I watch first (keeping in mind that I'm keeping an open mind to the remake)?
oh, please see the original first.
Come on man, ALWAYS see the original first
That's what I'd normally do -- but I figure I'll really like the original no matter what, and so maybe I should give the new one a fresh chance.
but then youll ruin the original.... remakes are SUPPOSED to be seen afterwards... same with sequels
And if I'm not mistaken, the context of the new film borrows from the old film, so that the original is undermined because it's only a "reenactment" of the events, whereas I think the new one tries to sell itself by being "the actual thing."
Light or dark meat?
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he's too stylized!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! he's standing in a stupid fuckin "I'm Batman" pose....god dammit......
can't wait to see it!
Yeah, I keep rewatching the trailer and now I can't wait
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holy shit this is one of the best trailers ive seen in a long time. the all black sequence in surround sound was fucking sweet. I agree it will be a little over the top but i think it will be good. i like the Jessica Biel ass shot as shes walking toward the house. Say what you want but this trailer was fucking amazing. Go view trailer here.
www.texaschainsawmovie.com
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is thier any nudity in his flick?
oh christ, this movie is going to sadden me.
Quote from: ewardoh christ, this movie is going to sadden me.
why do you say that?
Quote from: BankyQuote from: ewardoh christ, this movie is going to sadden me.
why do you say that?
because its a remake of tcm?
Quote from: CecilQuote from: BankyQuote from: ewardoh christ, this movie is going to sadden me.
why do you say that?
because its a remake of tcm?
be optimistic
i am actually. it looks decent. i dont know if ill like it, but im looking forward to it
still, its the principle of the thing
i understand although while a classic, the original was not all that great
like the new av?
Quote from: Bankyi understand although while a classic, the original was not all that great
like the new av?
Taking a crap and putting on make-up at the same time, a woman of many talents.
Quote from: EEz28Quote from: Bankyi understand although while a classic, the original was not all that great
like the new av?
Taking a crap and putting on make-up at the same time, a woman of many talents.
definantly
shes not taking a crap. youre just preojecting your own fantasies onto it
and the original tcm is a fucking masterpiece
Quote from: Cecilshes not taking a crap. youre just preojecting your own fantasies onto it
and the original tcm is a fucking masterpiece
i never said she was taking a crap and saying that TCM is a masterpiece is a little much.
EEz said she was taking a crap
i know
well, i guess everythings wrapped in a NICE LITTLE PACKAGE, then, isnt it?
in the remake they traded out crazy razor blade man with the "your all gonna die" girl
yeah i know. thats part of the reason why i find it rather appealing. i think they did this for those who are allready familiar with the original, that way they can try to sneak in the scares from different angles, instead of just reshooting the same script
they would have to do that. With Bay on board its gonna be way stylized and over the top. Explosions and such. I wanna here Biel say "we ride together, we die together"
talking about it is making me look forward to seeing it even more
yeah i downloaded the original and realize there is a lot of room to improve.
by the way i enjoy owning a thread
I never found the original very scary at all, and this was back when I was still sensitive to 'slasher' violence. First saw it many years back and had always been told that it was very scary, right up there with "Exorcist". Well, I finally worked up the courage to watch it, and wasn't scared at all. In fact, it takes a while for the kids to get to the house and get the gore going. I found it more creepy than anything. I'm not knocking it, I do like it and I will agree that it is a horror classic (the low budget gave a great sense of documentary to it since it's based on a true story) and don't really see a point for a remake (other than money), but I didn't think it was one of the 'scariest' movies ever made.
its not scary, its insane
the last shot really stuck with me, it's so intense feeling
the TCM:next generation was great fucking cinema
can anyone find any early reviews?
Head over to AICN, they've had several (mostly positive) reviews in the past few months.
I remember those Gear photos well. She later apologized for them, but I'll bet she was just sayin' that because her publicist made her.
TCM: The Next Generation really disappointed me a lot. I thought it was pretty awful.
"sorry for showing a breast"
Quote from: GhostboyHead over to AICN, they've had several (mostly positive) reviews in the past few months..
thanks
Quote from: GhostboyI remember those Gear photos well. She later apologized for them, but I'll bet she was just sayin' that because her publicist made her. .
i just found them and i was kinda shocked to see topless. How did she apologize for them?
Quote from: GhostboyTCM: The Next Generation really disappointed me a lot. I thought it was pretty awful.
yeah it was god awful. I saw it the other morning at like 8 on one of the multiple HBO's. Its funny that Zellwegger and M.M. got really popular right after that film. Zellwegger did Jerry Maguire the next year. What the fuck were they thinking having a drag leather face.
well leatherface is kinda in drag in the original as well. i think hes wearing a girly apron at the diner scene, right? it went farther (putting on makeup) but they cut that scene out
Quote from: MacGuffinI never found the original very scary at all, and this was back when I was still sensitive to 'slasher' violence. First saw it many years back and had always been told that it was very scary, right up there with "Exorcist". Well, I finally worked up the courage to watch it, and wasn't scared at all. In fact, it takes a while for the kids to get to the house and get the gore going. I found it more creepy than anything. I'm not knocking it, I do like it and I will agree that it is a horror classic (the low budget gave a great sense of documentary to it since it's based on a true story) and don't really see a point for a remake (other than money), but I didn't think it was one of the 'scariest' movies ever made.
..MacGuffin..
i didn't see this film until ...like last year it really freaked me out i guess i can see ihow it's not scary but like cecil noted that its INSANe its one f those films that get sundr your skin i thought i had to immediately watch something lite-hearted to get the sick feeeling out of my stomach..its films lke this an the exorcist that freak me out hte mostr b/c they seem real and "could happen to anyone"..kind of thing and not like jeepers creepers or child play. of ghoulies .....and i agreee w/ tremolosloth the final image is unerving............................
Quote from: Cecilshes not taking a crap. youre just preojecting your own fantasies onto it
and the original tcm is a fucking masterpiece
oh yes, my fantasy is watching a girl take a crap :roll:
and the original is not a masterpiece, but its pretty damn good, wish i could have seen it when it first came out.
Quote from: EEz28Quote from: Cecilshes not taking a crap. youre just preojecting your own fantasies onto it
and the original tcm is a fucking masterpiece
oh yes, my fantasy is watching a girl take a crap :roll:
and the original is not a masterpiece, but its pretty damn good, wish i could have seen it when it first came out.
..I agree w/Cecil..it is amasterpiece of horror
there may be a thread about this already but to give you guys an ideas by whats "scary" to me here are my top 5
5.0 event horizon
4.0 mothman prophecies
3.0 shining
2.0 texas chainsaw
1.0 exorcist......
wierd
http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/movie/details/0,7286,VID-V+++284147,00.html?
boring.
not scary.
sorry. sorry.
i'll stop. :cry:
so you saw it ? I just saw a tv spot and was about to bring this Thread back to light.
yeah i just got home.
I was really stoked about it to. o.well.
kill bill was good enough for the both of them.
it's nothing like the old one. It's not even a remake.
sorry. :cry:
Marcus Nispel Helming The Expendables
Source: Variety
Marcus Nispel, whose feature directing debut The Texas Chainsaw Massacre opens tomorrow, is in talks to take on The Expendables for Warner Bros. Pictures. He will develop the action project with an eye to direct.
The film's plot is inspired by a real-life program at California's Chino prison in which convicts are taught diving skills that can provide them with lucrative salvage and ship-repair careers following their parole.
"Expendables" was originated by writer Scott Smith (The Score) and rewritten by Scott Rosenberg (Gone in Sixty Seconds).
So, like i said.
Saw it tuesday. Some media thing and radio thing. WEAK. really, i really really, really wanted it to be good. Nope. WEAK.
thanks.
:wink:
The song in the trailer, it's in a Lynch film, but which one I can't recall ? Lost Highway I think, am I right ?
Yeah, it's "Song To the Siren" by This Mortal Coil
i just watched the origianl for the first time in years. It wasnt as good as i remembered. It was still really good. I didnt understand the Grandfather character. Did he have a mask on or did he just loook really wierd?
btw the new ones previews make it seem like a completley different movie
I liked the new one. Unfortunately I didn't get to see the original first. I was going to rent it before I went to see the new one but last week there was a free screening at UGA that I didn't know about until that day. But I liked the new one and I wasn't expecting much.
Quote from: Dr. GonzoI liked the new one. Unfortunately I didn't get to see the original first. I was going to rent it before I went to see the new one but last week there was a free screening at UGA that I didn't know about until that day. But I liked the new one and I wasn't expecting much.
So you didn't see the Life of David Gale because of its rotten reviews on Rottentomatoes.com, yet you saw this film and, above all,
liked it?
Keeping in mind that I still haven't seen the original (heresy, I know, but I'm waiting to see it on the big screen next weekend) and went into the remake with a completely open mind and a lot of hope due to the kickass trailer...I found it rather dull. It starts of really well, hits its high point around the middle, and then just goes on and on. There are some nice creepy/uncomfortable/gross moments, Jessica Biel is good, R Lee Ermey is the only source of terror in the film, and the photography is gorgeous. That's about it. I get scared real easily, and it didn't scare me.
Uhhhh! Ebert gave this no stars! A perfect zero. Ouch:
THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE / ZERO STARS
by Roger Ebert
The new version of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is a contemptible film: Vile, ugly and brutal. There is not a shred of a reason to see it. Those who defend it will have to dance through mental hoops of their own devising, defining its meanness and despair as "style" or "vision" or "a commentary on our world." It is not a commentary on anything, except the marriage of slick technology with the materials of a geek show.
The movie is a remake of, or was inspired by, the 1974 horror film by Tobe Hooper. That film at least had the raw power of its originality. It proceeded from Hooper's fascination with the story and his need to tell it. This new version, made by a man who has previously directed music videos, proceeds from nothing more than a desire to feed on the corpse of a once-living film. There is no worthy or defensible purpose in sight here: The filmmakers want to cause disgust and hopelessness in the audience. Ugly emotions are easier to evoke and often more commercial than those that contribute to the ongoing lives of the beholders.
The movie begins with grainy "newsreel" footage of a 1974 massacre (the same one as in the original film; there are some changes but this is not a sequel). Then we plunge directly into the formula of a Dead Teenager Movie, which begins with living teenagers and kills them one by one. The formula can produce movies that are good, bad, funny, depressing, whatever. This movie, strewn with blood, bones, rats, fetishes and severed limbs, photographed in murky darkness, scored with screams, wants to be a test: Can you sit through it? There were times when I intensely wanted to walk out of the theater and into the fresh air and look at the sky and buy an apple and sigh for our civilization, but I stuck it out. The ending, which is cynical and truncated, confirmed my suspicion that the movie was made by and for those with no attention span.
The movie doesn't tell a story in any useful sense, but is simply a series of gruesome events which finally are over. It probably helps to have seen the original film in order to understand what's going on, since there's so little exposition. Only from the earlier film do we have a vague idea of who the people are in this godforsaken house, and what their relationship is to one another. The movie is eager to start the gore and unwilling to pause for exposition.
I like good horror movies. They can exorcise our demons. "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" doesn't want to exorcise anything. It wants to tramp crap through our imaginations and wipe its feet on our dreams. I think of filmgoers on a date, seeing this movie and then -- what? I guess they'll have to laugh at it, irony being a fashionable response to the experience of being had.
Certainly they will not be frightened by it. It recycles the same old tired thriller tools that have been worn out in countless better movies. There is the scary noise that is only a cat. The device of loud sudden noises to underline the movements of half-seen shadows. The van that won't start. The truck that won't start. The car that won't start. The character who turns around and sees the slasher standing right behind her. One critic writes, "Best of all, there was not a single case of 'She's only doing that (falling, going into a scary space, not picking up the gun) because she's in a thriller.' " Huh? Nobody does anything in this movie for any other reason. There is no reality here. It's all a thriller.
There is a controversy involving Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill: Volume 1," which some people feel is "too violent." I gave it four stars, found it kind of brilliant, felt it was an exhilarating exercise in nonstop action direction. The material was redeemed, justified, illustrated and explained by the style. It was a meditation on the martial arts genre, done with intelligence and wit. "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is a meditation on the geek-show movie. Tarantino's film is made with grace and joy. This movie is made with venom and cynicism. I doubt that anybody involved in it will be surprised or disappointed if audience members vomit or flee.
Do yourself a favor. There are a lot of good movies playing right now that can make you feel a little happier, smarter, sexier, funnier, more excited -- or more scared, if that's what you want. This is not one of them. Don't let it kill 98 minutes of your life.
I like this line: "It wants to tramp crap through our imaginations and wipe its feet on our dreams."
The original is a masterpiece. Same with Dawn of the Dead which has a remake coming out. When are filmmakers going to understand that slickness and polish don't work for horror? Those 2 films worked because of their low budgets. For horror to work you need a defineable reality that people can relate to -- you don't get that with big budgets.
Dawn of the Dead is the best thing with zombies in it ever.
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So you didn't see the Life of David Gale because of its rotten reviews on Rottentomatoes.com, yet you saw this film and, above all, liked it?
I didn't say anything about the Life of David Gale...or did I a long time ago? I don't remember. But I saw the remake of this for free before it came out. There were no reviews and if it had mostly rotten reviews there, I probably would've avoided it. I didn't have much interest in it to begin with, but it was a free movie.
And it seems I did say that about The Life of David Gale. I never heard anything good about that movie. I might rent it now that it's on DVD.
Texas Chainsaw Slaughters the Competition
Source: Box Office Mojo
New Line's horror remake The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, starring Jessica Biel, slaughtered the competition on Friday to earn an estimated $11 million in one day from 3,016 theaters. The film looks to be headed for a weekend take of about $28 million.
Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill: Vol. 1 performed well on its second Friday, adding $4.3 million from 3,102 theaters for a total of $35.1 million.
I didn't think the first one was as good as people will tell you. I enjoyed it and I especially enjoyed it considering the budget and originality of the film.
I have 0 desire to see the remake.
spoilers in white:
the new one was pretty good to sit through but I don't really remember much afterwards. It was kinda obvious who was gonna die and the order of the deaths, I saw EVERYTHING coming--the hot kid is gonna ask the girl to put him outta his misery, the nerd is gonna sacrifice himself for the girl, and the freaky kid is gonna come save everyone but sitting through it was still kinda fun. Art direction was cool, and sound design was cool.
I was ultimatley dissapointed with this film. It wasnt very entertaining and i thought it was at times painful. About 50 minutes into the film i honestly wanted to walk out. Its not like the movie was terrible in anyway but it was just boring. Maybe i was expecting more of a remake and i got more of a sequal. I thought the dynamics of the group were dumb and not entertaing. The movie looked fantastic though. I really enjoyed its visuals. I thought it had balls to try and be different but i actually laughed out loud when Leatherface was working on the sewing machine. I left with a bad taste in my mouth and felt like i wanted to take a shower. It just wasnt scary.
Is the new TCM to the old TCm as the remake Shining was to the old Shining?
If so, count me out.
I'm surprised I ended up seeing this. I'm not surprised I didn't like it. Just wasn't scary or involving at all.
~rougerum
it made nearly 30 mill opening weekend. That is very impressive. Its sad that Kill Bill make 22 and this piece of exrament makes 30. I think the budget was like 10 mill for TCM.
further testament to the power of the "remake". because kill bill doesnt mean shit to 15 year olds. they dont know who Quentin Tarantino is and could care less this is his 4th film. what they DO KNOW is that they've defininitely 'heard' about Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and while it would probably be too much trouble to try to dig up some old version, they will definitely be going to the one that stars Jessica Biel.
hey hey hey. when i was in 7th grade my friends and i used to love pulp fiction and reservoir dogs. don't go generalizing, b/c quentin was my hero back when...
doesn't make sense to me why this made more money though. seems like kill bill would have a bigger audience. the people that like slasher movies like tcm should've really liked kill bill b/c it had so much violence and was so much more fun than tcm (from what i've heard). kill bill's audience also encompasses the film dork who wants to see the new quentin movie. it really is perplexing.
Quote from: themodernage02further testament to the power of the "remake". because kill bill doesnt mean shit to 15 year olds. they dont know who Quentin Tarantino is and could care less this is his 4th film. what they DO KNOW is that they've defininitely 'heard' about Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and while it would probably be too much trouble to try to dig up some old version, they will definitely be going to the one that stars Jessica Biel.
Too bad for them that they grow up in an era of nudity-free horror films.
Even if Tarantino doesn't mean anything to 15 year olds, surely an ultra-violent martial arts film would appeal to them. We're not comparing TCM and Lost in Translation here.
people were looking for something to do and when they saw TCM in the paper or on the internet, they thought of Beil and the big crazy man weilding a chainsaw. A marketing anamile. Its kinda like
"Oooooooohhhhhhh Navy Seals"
Quote from: bonanzatazhey hey hey. when i was in 7th grade my friends and i used to love pulp fiction and reservoir dogs. don't go generalizing, b/c quentin was my hero back when....
no, see thats exactly it! i was in 8th grade when pulp fiction came out and was all the rage you couldnt get any cooler than a quentin tarantino movie. but 15 year olds
today couldnt care less. he hasnt made a movie in 6 years, and they really werent into him when they were 9. my sister is 16 and she hasnt seen one of his movies, adn probably wouldnt have the slightest idea who he is.
Quote from: RaviEven if Tarantino doesn't mean anything to 15 year olds, surely an ultra-violent martial arts film would appeal to them. We're not comparing TCM and Lost in Translation here.
its not that 15 year olds wouldnt ENJOY kill bill, if they were to see it. its just that since QT doesnt mean anything to them, and from the previews it looks like some bizarre kung fu movie. thats not going to pack them into the theatres. texas chainsaw massacre is a 'brand'. these kids havent seen the original, but they recognize the name as being something supposedly really scary. so they go.
did anyone notice a cameo by fat boy red-head Harry? seeing his ugly mug made the film even worse, very boring, not scary, not worth the money, film, time. i bet the drop in box office next weekend will be pretty steep.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre Sequel Already in the Works
Source: Variety
With The Texas Chainsaw Massacre topping the weekend box office, producers Mike Fleiss and Michael Bay have begun early talks about a sequel to director Marcus Nispel's film, a remake of the 1974 Tobe Hooper hit.
Meanwhile, Fleiss' future film slate includes a high-concept comedy that would be directed by Brett Ratner. He's also preparing to a new take on another classic horror pic, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, penned by Steve Niles, writer of the classic vampire comic "30 Days of Night."
i liked it.
however, i'm sure if i saw it on a television set, it would suck.
i think that holds true with almost every single horror film.
not that it will always be good in a cinema and shitty on a t.v. - i just think that, especially for horror films, the value of the film is greatly diminished when seen on a television rather than a theater screen; more than any other genre.
a sequal sounds like a pretty bad idea
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobIs the new TCM to the old TCm as the remake Shining was to the old Shining?
If so, count me out.
I personally felt that way. I just didn't like it. Not because it was a remake of a film I love, but because it was a crappy film.
Tries to hard to be serious to be taken campingly, and tries to hard to be campy to be taken seriously.
Quote from: Keener
Tries to hard to be serious to be taken campingly, and tries to hard to be campy to be taken seriously.
well said
I finally saw the original tonight, in probably the best possible circumstances -- new print, big screen, with Tobe Hooper in attendance.
And it scared me real good. Leatherface's first appearance is on par with the staircase murder in Psycho. Actually, almost every time he shows up made me jump out of my seat.
The remake is more interesting now, seeing what changes it made, but it also sucks more because it's so unscary.
apologies to inane rambling below...
saw the remake on halloween. eh. it could've been a lot worse, but it could have been a lot better. to begin with, it was a senseless remake that there was absolutely no reason for. it cant hold a candle to the original. it wasnt scary, it wasnt creepy. it wasnt gory. the filmmaker didnt seem to 'get it'. he didnt seem to get what made the original great. he thought that maybe he would improve it by adding things like plot devices and jumpy moments, and a female hero and as many horror cliches as he could into 90 minutes. but the thing about the original, is that it didnt fall into any of those traps. it was wildly different, and crazy and fantastic. it didnt need to thread in all these meaningless character subplots and 'oooh, they're going to get married. ooh theyre transporting pot'. its like WHY? who gives a fuck? and why does that matter in the slightest? in the original the kids are anybodys. they are nobodys. they should be you, me doesnt matter. it doesnt matter about what the hells going on in their lives, all that matters is what happens to them that day. i was with it though through all that up to the first half, waiting to be scared, not completely annoyed. but, when jessica nad the other guy first see leatherface, they scream a little and then the kid starts fighting him wiht a tire iron. WHAT THE FUCK? you're telling me you turn around and see a guy wearing a mask of human skin wielding a chainsaw lunging at you and you decide rather than just running and being out of your fucking mind freaked out, that you will be heroic and ward him off so jessica biel can escape? so right there, things were already on the wrong wrong foot. the last third of th emovie made me sick. how many goddamn enclosed areas is she going to hide in? like 5? and her finding the courage to face him ridiculous! cliche, horror movie nonsense. when she got the baby, i wanted to shit myself. all the changes with the exception of the faux newsreel ending and possibly him wearing the mask of a character, (which were cool), were totally pointless. the only reason for this movie to exist is so 16 year olds who have never seen the original can enjoy themselves. it was not made for horror fans, or fans of the original.
Quote from: themodernage02to begin with, it was a senseless remake that there was absolutely no reason for. it cant hold a candle to the original. it wasnt scary, it wasnt creepy. it wasnt gory. the filmmaker didnt seem to 'get it'. he didnt seem to get what made the original great. he thought that maybe he would improve it by adding things like plot devices and jumpy moments, and a female hero and as many horror cliches as he could into 90 minutes. but the thing about the original, is that it didnt fall into any of those traps. it was wildly different, and crazy and fantastic. it didnt need to thread in all these meaningless character subplots and 'oooh, they're going to get married. ooh theyre transporting pot'. its like WHY? who gives a fuck? and why does that matter in the slightest? in the original the kids are anybodys. they are nobodys. they should be you, me doesnt matter. it doesnt matter about what the hells going on in their lives, all that matters is what happens to them that day. i was with it though through all that up to the first half, waiting to be scared, not completely annoyed. but, when jessica nad the other guy first see leatherface, they scream a little and then the kid starts fighting him wiht a tire iron. WHAT THE FUCK? you're telling me you turn around and see a guy wearing a mask of human skin wielding a chainsaw lunging at you and you decide rather than just running and being out of your fucking mind freaked out, that you will be heroic and ward him off so jessica biel can escape? so right there, things were already on the wrong wrong foot. the last third of th emovie made me sick. how many goddamn enclosed areas is she going to hide in? like 5? and her finding the courage to face him ridiculous! cliche, horror movie nonsense. when she got the baby, i wanted to shit myself. all the changes with the exception of the faux newsreel ending and possibly him wearing the mask of a character, (which were cool), were totally pointless. the only reason for this movie to exist is so 16 year olds who have never seen the original can enjoy themselves. it was not made for horror fans, or fans of the original.
What he said.
The wheelchair guy in the original was less annoying than all of these kids. The Sherriff character was a terrible addition. It completely took away from the action that was going on in the house. The only bit of horror that my audience reacted to was R. Lee Ermey spitting. The hitchhiker in the original did a creepier thing by cutting his hand than what the girl they picked up did. This version fell into cliches. You know when people are driving, and they get distracted and don't watch the road, you know for a fact they are gonna run into or almost run into something and somebody's gonna scream "Look Out!!" I could see the cross-cutting of the ending a mile away so there was no suspense with her hot-wiring the car. Also, Leatherface drops the chainsaw right in front of Biel's char., but does she pick it up? NOOOO!!! I wanted this version to do the same as I wanted for the characters' lives...end soon. Although it was cool to see 'Ain't It Cool' Harry's head on a platter.
the only thing i liked about this movie was the camera pulling back in the van through the girls head and out the van, awesome shot there.
Texas Chainsaw Director Aboard Need
Source: Variety
Texas Chainsaw Massacre director Marcus Nispel will direct Need for Sony-based Escape Artists. Diane Lane will topline the thriller, which is set up at Paramount Pictures.
The project, based on Lawrence David's novel, centers on a New York therapist's discovery that one of her female patients is having an affair with her husband.
Chloe King wrote the original script while Jon Bokenkamp has performed a rewrite and will continue working on the project. Co-stars have yet to be cast. Filming is expected to start in February in Los Angeles.
Diane Lane seems to be very interested in examining one theme.
so does her Unfaithful director Adrian Lyne.
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my dad has a quick review/ramble about the TCM remake and a little about remakes in general. you can read it if you're interested by clicking on the Abercrombie ad.
New Line have officially announced the region one releases of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre which stars Jessica Biel, Eric Balfour and Erica Leerhsen. The film will be available in two seperate packages from the 30th March next year. The first of these packages will be a two disc platinum edition of the film. This will retail at around $39.92 and will arrive in a collectible and removable metal plaque cover. The second release will be a cut down version, featuring only a music video, trailer and TV spots. This will retail at around $27.95. The platinum specs are attached below:
1.85:1 Anamorphic Widescreen Transfer
English Dolby Digital EX 5.1 Track
English DTS ES Surround Track
3 Audio Commentaries with Director Marcus Nispel, Michael Bay & More
Chainsaw Redux (Making Of) Documentary
Selection of Deleted Scenes
Alternate Opening and Ending
Crime Scene Photographs
Motograter “Suffocate” Music Video
Gein: The Ghoul of Plainfield Documentary
Cast Screen Tests
Various Art Galleries
Script-to-Screen (DVD-ROM)
Original Theatrical Trailers
Seven TV Spots
English & Spanish Subtitles
script to screen?? is anyone truly interested in that for this particular film?
Quote from: themodernage02my dad has a quick review/ramble about the TCM remake and a little about remakes in general. you can read it if you're interested by clicking on the Abercrombie ad.
ah so that's where ur gettin the christmas stuff. cool dad. :yabbse-thumbup:
i've been found out! yeah he wrote his column about it this month so rather than just link up i decided to share my own little capsules here to inspire some holiday viewing at xixax. dont spoil the ending!
Marcus Nispel Takes a Turn at Paramount
Source: Variety
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre helmer Marcus Nispel will direct Turn for Radar Pictures at Paramount.
Based on a Japanese film by the same name, Turn is a supernatural thriller about a woman who slips into a coma after an accident and finds upon waking that she is in a parallel reality -- a completely empty city, where she is forced to relive the same day over and over again.
The film is being dubbed the horror version of Groundhog Day. Paramount will handle domestic distribution and Focus International will handle foreign rights.
The Japanese original is more of a love story than a thriller, but Fernley Phillips' new screenplay ups the horror ante. Nispel will focus on Turn after helming Diane Lane in Need, also at Paramount.
Damnt. I blind bought this dvd lastnight cause it had a cool case and there were two versions a 1 disc and a 2 disc. I bought the 2. This movie sucked! It started out promising but went real sour after 20 minutes. it had a cool case though so thats cool.
Liebesman unmasking Leatherface
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Jonathan Liebesman is going back in time, signing on to direct the untitled "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" prequel that Platinum Dunes is producing for New Line Cinema. As in the first movie, which grossed more than $80 million domestically, the story follows a group of kids who run afoul of chainsaw-wielding psycho Leatherface and his demented family. The story will reveal Leatherface's origins. The script was written by Sheldon Turner with a rewrite by David Schow. Michael Bay, Andrew Form and Brad Fuller are producing via Platinum Dunes. Mike Fleiss also is producing.
Couldn't possibly be better than THE RETURN OF THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASACRE
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110978/
Thought it was the best of the other 5 billion Texas Chain Saw bla bla bla :yabbse-thumbup:
It has it's moments, and it's quite and interesting retelling but not as good as the original, of course.