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The Director's Chair => Stanley Kubrick => Topic started by: sphinx on January 24, 2003, 10:59:21 PM

Title: beatles
Post by: sphinx on January 24, 2003, 10:59:21 PM
does anyone know what kubrick thought of the beatles?
Title: beatles
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 25, 2003, 12:40:55 PM
He generally liked them. In one interview for 2001: A Space Odyssey, in trying to make the movie more understandable, he explained of how all people could love music if being on opposite ends of the world, from a prominemt intellectual to someone like a truck driver, could like the Beatles. I don't think though that Kubrick really had any serious appreciation only for them, because the music that seemed to have been at deepest appreciation for him was classical music mainly. Whenever he generally spoke of music, unless it something very specific to a film, he always spoke of classical music and its ability to really let the viewer feel for it what they can. Beatles, though good, belonged to rock where lyrics was a main ingrediant but always used as an access vehicle into what to think of the song. I think that part of rock n roll didn't hold as much value for Kubrick who made all his films for the pure feeling and leaving audiences to interpret on their own. But it comes down to the basic fact that when music was picked for his funeral services, it was all classical music. Guess that was just his taste of choice.

Also there is another thing because in the 60s, the beatles went to Kubrick asking him to possibly direct them in an adaptation of Lord of the Rings to a movie. Kubrick was quoted as saying that it was impossible to adapt the book. With knowing Kubrick's personality of being a man for pure absolute intellect, it is safe to bring up the idea that he could have looked down on the Beatles for bringing him an idea that he thought was maybe half baked in its seriousness. A problem of Kubrick's personality, is that he always needed gyrantees on something being perfect and understandable to him and if the Beatles brought him an idea he thought was more of "what they thought would be a cool thing to do for the day", then he may have personally put off the idea and not looked to it for any serious concern.

But I think with The Beatles being so popular and considered so good, he may have been in the crowd where everyone admitted they were good, even if they were not big fans or what, that they enjoyed their music.

~rougerum
Title: beatles
Post by: Royal Tenenbaum on March 03, 2003, 07:51:42 PM
Apparently John Lennon loved 2001 and watched it once a week. He wanted to meet Kubrick, but after the meeting he was quoted saying something like "How can the man who directed 2001 be so damn boring?"
Title: beatles
Post by: Xixax on March 03, 2003, 08:02:20 PM
John Lennon was the Devil.

Ringo was pretty cool, though. Caveman kicked ass.
Title: beatles
Post by: xerxes on March 03, 2003, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: XixaxJohn Lennon was the Devil.

a little part of me just died... xi...xa...x
Title: beatles
Post by: Xixax on March 03, 2003, 08:11:11 PM
It is an unpopular view that I'm frequently ridiculed for, but I really do not like The Beatles.

It's not that I have anything against them personally (although Lennon's politics were pretty fucked up). I don't even despise their music nearly as much as I despise country music.

I think the thing that makes me dislike them so much is that they personify a whole generation of people that just piss me off.

As a blanket statement using broad stereotypes, I really dislike the boomer generation of Americans. I hate the way they stare down their noses at Generation X and Y as if they're superior to us. I hate the fact that they think they know what's best for us, as if they're somehow more gifted thinkers than us.

I'm not sure if it's their tree-hugging environmentalism, their largely democratic liberal politics, or the fact that they wait until they're 40 to have a family because their career was so freaking important to them. Then they piss and moan about not being able to conceive, so they take fertility pills and conceive a half dozen babies and abort all but one of them when there are hundreds - THOUSANDS of kids in orphanages that need a good home.

I know I'm overgeneralizing here which is probably pretty ignorant of me. I'll regret this post later.

But I still don't like the Beatles. Even though Caveman was awesome.
Title: beatles
Post by: bonanzataz on March 03, 2003, 08:39:45 PM
Quote from: XixaxIt's not that I have anything against them personally (although Lennon's politics were pretty fucked up). I don't even despise their music nearly as much as I despise country music.

YOU HATE COUNTRY AND THE BEATLES! AAAAH! XIXAX, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?!
Title: beatles
Post by: Pedro on March 03, 2003, 08:47:24 PM
Maybe I'm just stupid...but why does it matter what Kubrick thought of the Beatles?
Title: beatles
Post by: sphinx on March 03, 2003, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Pedro the WombatMaybe I'm just stupid...but why does it matter what Kubrick thought of the Beatles?

both of them were sort of (pop) cultural landmarks in very different ways, and i was curious to see how they reacted to each other, that's all
Title: beatles
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 04, 2003, 12:15:31 AM
Quote from: Xixax

As a blanket statement using broad stereotypes, I really dislike the boomer generation of Americans. I hate the way they stare down their noses at Generation X and Y as if they're superior to us. I hate the fact that they think they know what's best for us, as if they're somehow more gifted thinkers than us.


I hate generation labels
Title: beatles
Post by: Newtron on March 04, 2003, 10:15:36 AM
I'm glad that my generation doesn't give a shit.

But I'm not happy about Duck Sauce being part of it. Hopefully his kind won't define us.
Title: beatles
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 04, 2003, 11:01:39 AM
Quote from: XixaxIt is an unpopular view that I'm frequently ridiculed for . . . Lennon's politics were pretty fucked up

Come on Budgie, sing it with me...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
Title: beatles
Post by: Royal Tenenbaum on March 04, 2003, 03:48:23 PM
I love the Beatles. :(
Title: beatles
Post by: Satcho9 on March 04, 2003, 07:36:57 PM
gotta love the beatles....i dont like Baby Boomers much.

"Slackers need not apply"
Title: beatles
Post by: SHAFTR on March 04, 2003, 07:43:05 PM
I don't understand how someone doesn't like The Beatles.  It's like being allergic to water or afraid of air, or even worse...hating Hitchock.
Title: beatles
Post by: Xixax on March 04, 2003, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanImagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
Freaking commie pinko.
Title: beatles
Post by: Keener on April 27, 2003, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazYOU HATE COUNTRY AND THE BEATLES! AAAAH! XIXAX, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?!

When I hold you in my arms and feel my finger on your trigger I know nobody can do me no harm because happiness is a warm gun.

Sorry, but xixax must be shot to death. For the sake of humanity. The Beatles rule.

There's two kinds of people in this world, Elvis people and Beatles people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like The Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally.
Title: beatles
Post by: MacGuffin on April 27, 2003, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: KeenerSorry, but xixax must be shot to death. For the sake of humanity. The Beatles rule.

There's two kinds of people in this world, Elvis people and Beatles people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like The Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally.

Fourth post down:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=682

Quote from: Keener...I hate being new.
Title: beatles
Post by: budgie on April 28, 2003, 05:01:51 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Xixax . . . Lennon's politics were pretty fucked up

:yabbse-thumbup:

QuoteCome on Budgie, sing it with me...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faufmuth.com%2Fmarla%2Fimages%2Fyoko.jpg&hash=6819ed31de5bb133d4618295ee7aae925a70aac6)

:kiss:
Title: beatles
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 28, 2003, 10:47:56 AM
yoko ono is barely treading water
Title: beatles
Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2003, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: mogwaiYoko looks like a communist leader on that picture.

To me it looks like the little girl in budgie's avatar is playing accompaniment for Yoko-oh-no-oh-no.
Title: beatles
Post by: Keener on April 28, 2003, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: KeenerSorry, but xixax must be shot to death. For the sake of humanity. The Beatles rule.

There's two kinds of people in this world, Elvis people and Beatles people. Now Beatles people can like Elvis. And Elvis people can like The Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally.

Fourth post down:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=682

Quote from: Keener...I hate being new.

Geez us krist.
Title: beatles
Post by: RegularKarate on April 28, 2003, 06:41:28 PM
I don't believe in Beatles
Title: beatles
Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2003, 06:52:04 PM
Quote from: KeenerGeez us krist.

http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1189
Title: beatles
Post by: Keener on April 28, 2003, 09:00:57 PM
P.T. Anderson rocks.

...I just want your hands to cripple.