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Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: MacGuffin on January 24, 2003, 10:56:04 AM
Source: Variety

Unfortunately David Fincher's next film as director WON'T be MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE 3 - it will instead by the coming-of-age drama THE LORDS OF DOGTOWN. The pic will be a bit of a change of pace from the traditional Finch fare but the director has decided to tackle this project about the surf and skateboard culture in the 1970s. LORDS was originally written by Stacy Peralta who directed the documentary DOGTOWN AND Z-BOYS, a film that highlighted the same cultural milieu. Roger Avary (RULES OF ATTRACTION) has been brought in to rewrite the script. Production is scheduled to begin in 3rd quarter 2003 with M:I3 being pushed back to 2004. (So that likely means the rumors of Kelly Brook being cast in MISSION aren't true.) LORDS was originally set up at New Line where Limp Bizkit frontman and Playboy Mansion mainstay Fred Durst was expected to direct. It's unclear if Durst will have any involvement in Fincher's film.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: RegularKarate on January 24, 2003, 12:45:09 PM
Well, I could care less when Finch does MI3 (though I will definately see it when he does), but I REALLY hope that Fred Durst has nothing to do with this film.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Ghostboy on January 25, 2003, 09:26:56 PM
I think this is a great project for him to take on, somethign completely different than what he's done before. Plus, that documentary was very enjoyable. In any case, I'd rather see Fincher do this than M:I3, and I'm very glad I don't have to sit through a Fred Durst movie (unless he turns out to be a good director for some reason).
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 26, 2003, 08:12:43 AM
I always was eyeing that documentary for rental, but now I think I will really rent it.

This is very good for Fincher as well, it gives him an opportunity to tackle a new kind of story with different purposes.

~rougerum
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Post by: Duck Sauce on January 26, 2003, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: mogwaiFincher should do a remake of Thrashin' instead. :twisted:

I second, third and fourth that.


Skateboard movies are great (up till 1992)
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 26, 2003, 11:38:31 AM
Quote from: RegularKaratebut I REALLY hope that Fred Durst has nothing to do with this film.

I hope that Fred Durst has nothing to do with anything.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: oakmanc234 on February 16, 2003, 02:14:34 AM
I gotta say I'm not too pleased with this new skateboard/surfing project. I guess I was just hoping for another 'Fight Club'-type flick.

You win some you lose some.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: sphinx on February 16, 2003, 02:52:56 AM
you never know.  roger avary rewrote the script...
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Post by: Duck Sauce on February 16, 2003, 03:19:35 AM
Quote from: oakmanc234I gotta say I'm not too pleased with this new skateboard/surfing project. I guess I was just hoping for another 'Fight Club'-type flick.

You win some you lose some.


How many Fight Clubs/Sevens can you make though?
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: sbelden on March 04, 2003, 10:09:26 PM
avary gives (at least) tri-weekly updates on his journal at www.avary.com, often updating about the "Dogtown" project. now that fincher's off MI:3 it's gonna happen soon...
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Him on March 14, 2003, 09:32:29 AM
i guess that i was hoping that fincher would be 'important' (though i hate saying it that way) director. (empire magazine dubbed him the most crucial director of the turn of the century) it seems the messages from seven and fight club and the game weren't his after all. maybe it was all chuck palahniuk and andrew kevin walker, and finch just saw the possibility for some visual wizardry.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: ©brad on March 14, 2003, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: The Walking Clichei guess that i was hoping that fincher would be 'important' (though i hate saying it that way) director. (empire magazine dubbed him the most crucial director of the turn of the century) it seems the messages from seven and fight club and the game weren't his after all. maybe it was all chuck palahniuk and andrew kevin walker, and finch just saw the possibility for some visual wizardry.

r u saying b/c he didn't generate the ideas himself or write the screenplays that he's not important and had nothing to do with the finished product? you could say the same thing about kubrick then, since all his movies are based on novels.
just because fincher doesn't write doesn't mean he's not 'important' or creating anything new.
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Post by: Ghostboy on March 14, 2003, 10:18:25 AM
Yeah, its kinda presumptuous to expect a director to give you a 'message-movie' every time. That would get old really fast. I'm thrilled with the new directions he's taking.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Him on March 17, 2003, 10:57:50 AM
nuh-uh.

kubrick did have a lot of input in the story part of the process, it's just that he got the bare bones from novels. a lot of the time he wrote a draft, and then got a professional to re-draft it, thus giving him the credit, whilst kubrick was happy just being known as the director.

spielberg is very similar. how do you think he keeps getting in the theme of the abandoning father? and yet apparently he's only had the 'written and directed' credit twice. (once, ironically, for a.i.)

my question is this: how much of a finger does finch have in the story-telling pie? obviously he has final cut...but how much of a consultant is he in the script-writing process? i'm wary of his background in music videos, i guess.

brace yourselves...would finch be better off as a director for hire? is he nothing more than an up-market rob cohen?
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Post by: Duck Sauce on March 17, 2003, 11:13:38 AM
I saw Dogtown Z-Boys the other day and am completley convinced that any movie about this subject would definatly be gnarly. Any details?
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: budgie on March 26, 2003, 02:52:20 PM
This is up on davidfincher.net:

For those of you that are still a little skeptical of Fincher directing the seemingly unsuitable Lords of Dogtown, here is a rather encouraging review of Stacy Peralta’s screenplay. The review, by Jean-François Allaire (AKA DeadPool), was posted Thursday over at TNMC.org.

While “DeadPool” certainly feels that Fincher is a more than capable director, he mentions that this material may bring out a new side to Fincher’s style.

“Lords of Dogtown features a definite departure for David Fincher. His films have usually lived in a very darkish universe. Dogtown is absolutely nothing like that. The majority of the film takes place outside during the day. We'll finally be able to see the full range of Finch's ability as a director. Is he just an awesome suspense filmmaker? Can he make us care about those 70's kids? The skateboarding sequences should be a blast for him. The Z-Boys invented a bunch of tricks and were also the first ones to skateboard in empty swimming pools. I'm sure Fincher will have no problem envisioning all of that.”

After reading such an enthusiastic review, how can you not get at least relatively excited? It may not be The Black Dahlia or Rendezvous With Rama that a lot of us have been waiting for over the past few years. But the potential for this material seems greater than that of Panic Room, which, when all was said and done, managed to impress a lot of it’s skeptics.

“DeadPool” juxtaposes Dogtown to Cameron Crowe’s Almost Famous, and I can certainly think of worse movies to be held in comparison to.

I'm kinda intrigued now. I'd like to see him ditch the colour green for a one-off.
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Post by: ©brad on March 27, 2003, 05:50:35 AM
well i'm excited.

i don't think this will be such a big departure for fincher, in reference to making us 'care for those 70s kids.' I thought he did a great job with Jodie Foster and the daughter in Panic Room- definitely, uhhh, a lotta warmth there.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 27, 2003, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dwell i'm excited.

i don't think this will be such a big departure for fincher, in reference to making us 'care for those 70s kids.' I thought he did a great job with Jodie Foster and the daughter in Panic Room- definitely, uhhh, a lotta warmth there.

I actually care more about those 70's kids just in text than I did about Jodie Foster and daughter in Panic Room. Whats up with the casting?
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Keener on April 30, 2003, 08:29:47 PM
I love Fincher. I love Avary. I don't dig skateboards. I'll go see it.

Wish what I had to say had more depth but neuh.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 03, 2003, 02:07:37 PM
I think this film is gonna be fuckin' great.  I saw Dogtown Z-boys yesterday it was really great....I can't wait to see a movie about the Zypher-boys! It's gonna be great. Fincher+Skateboarding+70's+California Sun =  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 03, 2003, 02:13:22 PM
btw!  http://www.tnmc.org/dp/0320031.shtml
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Cecil on August 11, 2003, 09:40:01 PM
fincher is off the project
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on August 11, 2003, 09:46:19 PM
Eh?
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Post by: Cecil on August 11, 2003, 10:51:54 PM
screw you
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Post by: Ghostboy on August 11, 2003, 10:58:13 PM
From Avary's website:

I am, of course, bummed that Fincher is off "Dogtown". You would be too if you had seen the previz work on those pool skateboarding shots. Also, David had a genuine love of both "The Bad News Bears" and "American Graffiti" -- two films that I believe held the key to what this film was aiming to become. I'll simply miss seeing the director of "Fight Club" apply his particular angle on a movie that is so seemingly wrong and yet so obviously right at this point in his career...but David knows what's best for him. So now I'm told they're out to other directors. But you know what, you never know. In this business, anything can happen.

What he probably means in those italicized portions is that he might have a chance of directing it himself.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: MacGuffin on August 27, 2003, 03:26:58 PM
Lords of Dogtown: "Spun" helmer Jonas Åkerlund is considering helming the skater project previously attached to David Fincher.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Spike on September 08, 2003, 05:14:40 AM
Now it's pretty sure. Jonas Akerlund will direct "Lords of Dogtown". Previously he made "Spun", a very cool drug film.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Sigur Rós on September 09, 2003, 02:13:39 PM
......and...now it's sure!
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Banky on September 09, 2003, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Cecil B. Dementedfincher is off the project


I like your frankness
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Post by: Sigur Rós on October 06, 2003, 04:15:30 AM
Any news on the cast?
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 10, 2003, 09:52:25 AM
Catherine Hardwicke Lord of Dogtown
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Thirteen director Catherine Hardwicke is in talks to rewrite and helm the Columbia Pictures skater drama Lords of Dogtown.

Written by Stacy Peralta, who penned and directed the 2001 documentary feature Dogtown and Z-Boys, "Lords" is a fictionalized version of the documentary and is based on a Spin magazine article that explored 1970s skateboarding culture.

It follows a group of young California surfers who take their style to the streets as skateboarders, thereby launching a whole new sport that defined a generation.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Ghostboy on October 10, 2003, 10:32:40 AM
Swelllll. She's pretty cool.
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Post by: mutinyco on October 11, 2003, 08:41:01 AM
Yeah, she'll have a TOTALLY different approach to the material.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: MacGuffin on February 13, 2004, 02:24:49 AM
Hirsch, Ledger, Robinson & Rasuk in Dogtown
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Emile Hirsch (The Girl Next Door), Heath Ledger, John Robinson and Victor Rasuk will star in The Lords of Dogtown for Columbia Pictures and Thirteen helmer Catherine Hardwicke.

The film is a fictionalized version of the 2001 documentary feature Dogtown and Z-Boys and is based on a Spin magazine article that explored 1970s skateboarding culture. It follows a group of young California surfers who take their style to the streets as skateboarders, thereby launching a whole new sport that defined a generation.

The film is set to start shooting in April.
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 26, 2004, 06:54:38 PM
has anybody here seen


http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/stoked.html
Title: The Lords Of Dogtown
Post by: MacGuffin on March 02, 2005, 08:27:48 PM
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Trailer here. (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1345943&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300)

Release Date: August 12th, 2005 (wide)

Cast: Emile Hirsch (Jay Adams), Johnny Knoxville, Heath Ledger (Skip Engblom), Victor Rasuk (Tony Alva), John Robinson (Stacy Peralta), Michael Angarano (Sid), Ned Bellamy (Tom), Eddie Cahill, America Ferrera, Elden Henson, William Mapother (Donnie), Joel McHale (Paul Moyer), Jeremy Renner, Sofia Vergara (Amelia), Steve Badillo (Ty Page), Chelsea Hobbs (Caroline), Paulette Ivory (Sandra Miro), Reef Karim (Angelo Gamboa), Vincent Laresca (Chino), Samantha Lockwood, Benjamin Nurick, Nikki Reed, Laura Ramsey (Gabrielle), Pablo Schreiber, Eric West (James Smith), Shea Whigham (Drake Landon), Brian Zarate (Montoya)

Director: Catherine Hardwicke (Thirteen)

Screenwriter: Stacy Peralta (cowriter of Riding Giants, Dogtown and Z-Boys; both of which he also directed)

Based Upon: This movie is based upon the true story of the young surfers from the "Dogtown" neighborhood straddling the border between Venice and Santa Monica, CA who in the early 1970s adapted their rebellious style to skateboarding, turning it from a forgotten 1950s fad into a new form of individual expression and daredevil-like sport. Their story was previously told in the award-winning documentary feature film, Dogtown and Z-Boys, which was also (co)-written by Stacy Peralta, who is also a central character in both movies.

Premise: This is the story of a group of teenagers from the (then) dangerous "Dogtown" neighborhood who in the 1970s adapted their rebellious surfing style to skateboards, so they could practice their moves when the tide was low, which included raiding empty Hollywood backyard swimming pools and using them as impromptu skating ramps. In the process, they revolutionized what was until then an obscure hobby, and skateboarding became an international sport popular with the rebellious and disenfranchised, and the core group of "Z-Boyz" became stars in their own rights.