Just got back from Pirates Of The Carribean. It was a decently fun movie, but man, Johnny Depp was SO great. Not that he's ever not great, but when I first heard he was doing a Bruckheimer movie, I was a little wary. But his performance is up there with his best, it's just so wild and goofy. His eyes are almost acrobatic in their expressiveness. I also think he improvised a lot of the lines...soem of them just seem so abritrary. Especially the second to last line he has in the movie. It cracked me up.
Aside from his performance, the movie is notable primarily for the excellent effects, the overall jolly nature, and the absolutely exquisite Kiera Knightley. I'm in love again.
Gore Verbinski is turning out to be a really terrific mainstream director, I think.
Quote from: GhostboyGore Verbinski is turning out to be a really terrific mainstream director, I think.
i prefer the term Popular Film director. like pop music.
i saw depp on letterman before he died and he was very entertaining, the clip they showed i thought was like "well, maybe he's got bills to pay". but i wasn't aware verbinski was behind it. i wasn't planning to see it but now i reckon so. i'm glad to see johnny boy is still gettin it done.
You just got me excited about seeing this film.
Johnny is the fucking man. He steals every scene in Pirates. I loved it.
Quote from: Ghostboysome of them just seem so abritrary. Especially the second to last line he has in the movie.
So he doesn't die in the end? :(... thanks for ruining it for me! DOH!
Nick
I saw it Monday night and Depp was definitely the best thing about the film. I may be dreaming this, but it seemed like he was doing a Keith Richards imitation the entire movie. The hair, the outfit, the drunken mumbly voice...it just seemed like Keith to me. If he was doing that intentionally, I think it's funny that he'd do something random like that in a big budget studio film.
Depp is great in almost every role he does. He is different from role to role, his Ed Wood was nothing like his Edward Scissorhands, which was nothing like Hunter Thompson in Fear and Loathing or his Ichabod Crane in Sleepy Hollow. He's definitely not an actor who coasts on doing one particular "thing" over and over.
The movie wasn't bad, it was actually very well directed for a summer action movie. For the first hour or so it was very enjoyable, but then it dragged on for over two hours and it started to get a little tired by the end. Keira Knightley is the love child of Winona Ryder and Natalie Portman, if such a thing were biologically possible (and I'd want to watch if it was).
I really need to see this now, I like the ride and the movie must not suck too bad, plus it has a pretty strong cast. Could be fun.... Depp is almost always great (sans 9th Gate or whatever), it is interesting how shy and lowkey he seems to be in real life and how he breaks out of the shell for movies where he plays these interesting characters that are full of life.
P.S. Hows the Viper Room?
I was not remotely interested in this before, but y'all have peaked my interests a bit. Might have to make it the tailend of a matinee double feature...
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wow, this is word of mouf like i never seen.
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Well, Johnny Depp is always a plus. And the comments helped. But I am interested mostly to see what Gore Verbinski can do with it. Will he possibly top Mouse Hunt?
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Quote from: FishbulbI may be dreaming this, but it seemed like he was doing a Keith Richards imitation the entire movie. The hair, the outfit, the drunken mumbly voice...it just seemed like Keith to me. If he was doing that intentionally, I think it's funny that he'd do something random like that in a big budget studio film.
he has admittedly said that he imitated Keith Richards because he thinks that Pirates were the rock n roll stars of their day.
Quote from: FishbulbI saw it Monday night and Depp was definitely the best thing about the film. I may be dreaming this, but it seemed like he was doing a Keith Richards imitation the entire movie. The hair, the outfit, the drunken mumbly voice...it just seemed like Keith to me. If he was doing that intentionally, I think it's funny that he'd do something random like that in a big budget studio film.
Depp is great in almost every role he does. He is different from role to role, his Ed Wood was nothing like his Edward Scissorhands, which was nothing like Hunter Thompson in Fear and Loathing or his Ichabod Crane in Sleepy Hollow. He's definitely not an actor who coasts on doing one particular "thing" over and over.
The movie wasn't bad, it was actually very well directed for a summer action movie. For the first hour or so it was very enjoyable, but then it dragged on for over two hours and it started to get a little tired by the end. Keira Knightley is the love child of Winona Ryder and Natalie Portman, if such a thing were biologically possible (and I'd want to watch if it was).
Yeah, the article in my paper this morning said he got his speech patterns from Keith. That makes me respect the man even more, if that was possible.
A better pirate than Dustin Hoffman in Hook!?!?
WHAT!?!?!
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickQuote from: Ghostboysome of them just seem so abritrary. Especially the second to last line he has in the movie.
So he doesn't die in the end? :(... thanks for ruining it for me! DOH!
Nick
How does this ruin it? He said, "second to last line he has in the movie" not "at the end."
yeah, i have to agree. i loved this movie. johnny depp is so fucking funny, i couldnt believe it. gore verbinski certainly has the ability to handle multiple genres with MOUSE HUNT, THE MEXICAN, THE RING, and now this one. did anybody else get a little gleam of excitement towards the end when orlando and johnny were fighting side by side? SEQUEL! (fingers crossed). umm. the story was really intersting. its good that they didnt go the pg route and made it pg13 and kept it good for kids and adults. it did seem to go on a little long (at 2 hours and 15 minutes or so), but more a factor of where i was expecting it to end, than boredom or anything else. there have not been too many good pirate movies as of late, and i would have to say this is one of them. one of my favorite movies this summer for sure.
Quote from: Walrus, KookookajoobA better pirate than Dustin Hoffman in Hook!?!?
WHAT!?!?!
yep. see for yourself.
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i prefer the term Popular Film director. like pop music.
i saw depp on letterman before he died and he was very entertaining .
...the fuck?! :?: :?: :?: :?: :?
One-Eyed Willy(The Goonies) was a menacing pirate also...even w/out any speaking from him you still fear him and obey his orders or else you know you will be walking the plank to certian doom.
But Depp is still the man (as always) looks like a cool film
Quote from: ProgWRX...the fuck?! :?: :?: :?: :?: :?
i wasn't serious. i meant before he stopped turning up to all of his shows. this is after the shingles.
Just caught this today myself. Brilliant action flick... well worth the $7. I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said. Depp was brilliant. I loved noticing that he seemed to borrow some of his movement patterns and hand gestures from his Fear and Loathing performance.
Attn: Minor spoilers ahead.
I guess the only gripe I have about the movie was with Orlando Bloom's character and even that is just a matter of preference. I hate when protagonists in a film are played so godamn straight. I think there was a nice opportunity to give a little more depth to his character by showing off more of the "pirate spirit" he would have inherited from his father. Yeah, I know he steals the ship with Sparrow and all, but even that decision seemed to be made more out of honor than anything else. He was just a bit too bland for my tastes. Maybe he'll loosen up a bit in the sequel.
I heard it was totally dogshit, and I heard it was amazing.
Anyone care to help unblur the lines?
if you like johnny depp, see this movie.
if you dont like johnny depp, dont.
if you are interested at all in seeing it from the trailers, see this movie.
if you arent interested in seeing a movie about pirates, dont.
what about if you love the ride?
p.s. who doesn't like Johnny Depp?
Quote from: poserp.s. who doesn't like Johnny Depp?
commies, no doubt
Quote from: poserp.s. who doesn't like Johnny Depp?
Dead people.
Quote from: poserp.s. who doesn't like Johnny Depp?
tremolosloth.
Way disapointed by this one ... Depp almost saved the movie, well, he did at least save every scene he was in. Orlando Bloom's character could have been played by any daytime drama "actor". When you know how Depp completly crafted his character, it's frustrating to see how less work Bloom put into his. Rush was way underused too, he really hadn't any good line/scene.
And did the two English morons annoy you as much as they annoyed me ?! They were disgusting.
Still, pretty entertaining, but could have been wayyyyyy better. Pirate movies need their Braveheart.
With the exception of Depp's performance, this was a very boring and long action movie. Rush was mediocre. Everyone else was flotsam. It wasn't terrible but it dragged everytime Depp wasn't onscreen.
The action was pretty bad. *SPOILER* The first 5-6 times you see the undead crew fighting in and out of the moonlight is good, but after the 40th it's dull and excessive. The comedy was pretty so-so (again with the exception of Depp--and the homage to The Last Crusade by Rush). The comedy of the British soldier duo and the Cursed Pirate duo were lackluster. The story needed work. It played like movie that had invested so much money in four production sets that they had to change to script to constantly hopscotch from one to the other and back again.
But Depp's entrance scene made the entire movie worth admission.
Quote from: RaikusWith the exception of Depp's performance, this was a very boring and long action movie. Rush was mediocre. Everyone else was flotsam. It wasn't terrible but it dragged everytime Depp wasn't onscreen.
The action was pretty bad. *SPOILER* The first 5-6 times you see the undead crew fighting in and out of the moonlight is good, but after the 40th it's dull and excessive. The comedy was pretty so-so (again with the exception of Depp--and the homage to The Last Crusade by Rush). The comedy of the British soldier duo and the Cursed Pirate duo were lackluster. The story needed work. It played like movie that had invested so much money in four production sets that they had to change to script to constantly hopscotch from one to the other and back again.
But Depp's entrance scene made the entire movie worth admission.
You're absolutely right on saying that scenes without Depp dragged. If it wasn't for ol' Johnny Boy, this movie would have sucked donkey nuts. it was refreshing to see a bit of Hunter S. in this character...I had a smirk through most of the movie. I recently saw Quills with Rush and Winslet, and I must say that Rush's character in pirates could have been much better. He's such a great actor, and this role just didn't give him room to flex his acting muscles. They could have shaved off twenty minutes, or no less than fifteen, from this film.
And yes, the two British guys were fucking annoying.
But what's her name is reeeeaaalllllllly hot. Whew.
The first time I can honestly say that a sole actor held the movie together. If nothing else, I kept watching to see what Depp would do next, since I could already predict where the movie was headed.
I'm glad scenes from the actual ride found their way into the film. I get the sense now that it's sort of tongue in cheek; a movie based on an amusement park ride... or does Disney really think they are such hot shit?
As a frequent visitor of WORDPLAY, I expected more from the story. Terry & Ted are always talking about how you shouldn't judge a screenplay by the film it eventually becomes... coincidence? Hmmmmm... :roll: Still some great advice for screenwriters there, even if the authors have yet to develop a stand-out project. Besides Aladdin.
My opinion on Pirates... come for the popcorn, stay for the Johnny. Critics are actually slamming his "weird" performance, but this movie would be so incredibly bland without him.
Quote from: BoothPirate movies need their Braveheart.
No kidding. The market is wide open. You never know... maybe someone at this site will be inspired to make it. :-D
Quote from: markums2kQuote from: BoothPirate movies need their Braveheart.
No kidding. The market is wide open. You never know... maybe someone at this site will be inspired to make it. :-D
Huh yeah ... I meant that I want pirate movies with gore (and raping).
Quote from: markums2kCritics are actually slamming his "weird" performance, but this movie would be so incredibly bland without him.
I guess they prefer Orlando Bloom un-weird Will Turner :roll: (assholes)
Quote from: BoothQuote from: markums2kQuote from: BoothPirate movies need their Braveheart.
No kidding. The market is wide open. You never know... maybe someone at this site will be inspired to make it. :-D
Huh yeah ... I meant that I want pirate movies with gore (and raping).
I wouldn't have it any other way.
And you would've rather watched Bloom for 2 1/2 hours instead of Depp? Are we talking about the same movie? :roll:
someone needs to make a movie about pirates as they actually were, as adult and foul and brutal and gory as can be. i think its time for that.
as for this movie, i loved it. did anybody just get a huge grin on their face at the beginning when depp is standing at the top of his sinking ship with his arms out to the side, and he just gracefully steps onto the dock....fuckin great. raised my eyebrow a bit when they all turned into CGI skeletons, but quickly got over that and went with it and had a lot of fun.
Disney Sets Sail for Pirates of the Caribbean Sequel!
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
With Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean doing extremely well at the box office, the studio is already talking of setting sail on a sequel to the feature.
In anticipation of the film's success, Disney had made sequel arrangements with such key cast members as Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley, as well as with the behind-the-scenes duo of producer Jerry Bruckheimer and director Gore Verbinski.
The studio has also begun talks with "Pirates" writers Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio about drafting a sequel, though no specific story line has yet been set.
Since its opening last Wednesday, the hit film has earned more than $78 million.
Quote from: MacGuffinThe studio has also begun talks with "Pirates" writers Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio about drafting a sequel, though no specific story line has yet been set.
How is that likely to change at any point in the development? :roll:
Me thinks "Pirate of the Caribbean: Jack Sparrow vs. the Pirates of Darkness" be an hearty and well-earned title to this sequel, har.
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Sea captain: Arrr matee, narry a warning light to be seen, clear sailin' ahead for our precious cargo.
Sailor: you mean the hot pants?
Sea Captain: Aye, the hot pants.
Finally saw this. I'm pretty dissapointed. I thought'd it be more thought out and clever than this. The first hour was dreadful. Nothing was funny and the first battle of the Pirates attacking the city was ineffective. I wish the battle would have been longer with more patience. Just another example of the flurry of editing law when dealing with a massive battle to keep its time down but destroy any effectiveness. I also questioned Depp's performance because he was so goofy but not saying anything funny. He didn't seem intimidating that much as a pirate.
Only during the end, or towards the last battle, did I start to enjoy myself. I started to like Depp and forgave him for the first hour because he was finally doing something and playing off the potential likability his character had of casually going between sides. The last battle was a major improvement as well because it followed a pacing to make the fighting more effective and was actually thought out a bit. The humor got smarter and I started caring for the characters. Kiera Knightely was maybe the stand out for me of not just being a lady taking arms, but having a wit and presence to back it.
All in all, the movie should have relied less on trying to be a drama and more a comedy. Scenes of idle chatter could have been reduced significantly and more movement of story. It should have tried to go for an action movie on the mind set of a comedy more because that would have made it more inventive. I liked the finish, but I couldn't imagine sitting through this entire thing again.
~rougerum
I saw it tonight: Depp was fantastic, and yes, he held it all together.
I thought Johnny was playing a gay pirate, not Keef.
Just saw this tonight... I was dissapointed with the whole affair. Johnny Depp was fantastic with what the script gave him, which wasn't much. The whole first 45 minutes or so (before they leave on the army's boat) was just a sequence of events that the writer made predictable references to use in the rest of the movie. The fighting was boring, it seemed like it was obligatory filler or something to carry the predictable "plot" through. The comedy was stupid... Depp's performance was funnier than anything the script could come up with. The music bothered me... it felt like someone sat down and told a bunch of musicians "Okay, play something dramatic that can be used in an action scene." The direction was nothing special, I think Verbinski did a much better job with The Ring. I loved Johnny Depp's performance, it was one of the movie's best qualities. Most of the characters' personalities were paper-thin, but Depp managed to pull it off very well.
I didn't think the movie was especially bad, but I had my hopes up for a good pirate movie, and this was not. Yeah. I don't usually rant about movies, but for $7.25 and 2 and a half hours I think a rant is in order.
I thought that the movie wasn't bad at all... my only complaint would be that the story and situations were such rip offs of Star Wars (a new hope)... Bloom's character was totally Luke Skywalker... had a mysterious past, the son of a great leader who was a good man (but obviously was bad because he was a pirate), the Obiwan Kenobi inside of Sparrow, the scene with all of the hookers where they find a crew (total Mos Eisley Cantina), certain scenes with Barbosa looking like the emporer on the death star, the last scene where sparrow is almost hung (shot similarly to how star wars ends with the awards presentation)... hell, Keira Knightley was even IN episode 1!!! This movie just begs for a prequel trilogy!
What should I have expected... there are so many star wars rip offs out there...
Nick
so much so that its begun to rip off itself
The only thing I liked about this movie was Depp. Everyone in the theater gasped when he was introduced.
could this provoke one of those crazy novelty supporting actor Oscar nominations?
Quote from: ewardsomeone needs to make a movie about pirates as they actually were, as adult and foul and brutal and gory as can be. i think its time for that.
My friend is writing one as we speak. I'm helping him do a rewrite. It's gonna be like the Scarface/Gangs Of New York of pirate movies. I think it's fucking amazing. But he has no love interest, and no real "hero", and an estimated budget of 50+ million, and about a 3 hour running time.... so that rules out commercial investors, doesn't it? If somebody wants to take a chance on this film, it will be THE pirate movie.
No love interest, no real hero? Wow, that's a REAL story. Sounds promising.
Quote from: SoNowThenQuote from: ewardsomeone needs to make a movie about pirates as they actually were, as adult and foul and brutal and gory as can be. i think its time for that.
My friend is writing one as we speak. I'm helping him do a rewrite. It's gonna be like the Scarface/Gangs Of New York of pirate movies. I think it's fucking amazing. But he has no love interest, and no real "hero", and an estimated budget of 50+ million, and about a 3 hour running time.... so that rules out commercial investors, doesn't it? If somebody wants to take a chance on this film, it will be THE pirate movie.
Tell you what...give me till Christmas, and maybe I'll have waited enough tables to help finance this thing....:)
Seriously, will it be Tarantino-ish in that the main character is the "anti-hero"?
No, it's more like... hmmm, I don't wanna be hasty and fuck this explanation up. It kinda follows a guy's rise from galley slave through to pirate and then on to more and more power and fame. It's also somewhat based (very) loosely on Henry Morgan, as well as one of the central pirate locations of those times: Port Royal, Jamaica. He's put a lot of research into this.
When I say "not a hero", it's really because the guy learns to attain power, and becomes a fierce and merciless pirate, and no one in their right mind would consider him a role model.
There's a lot of misconceptions about pirates, and how they operated -- especially in the earlier days of the Brethern (sp?) Of The Coast, when piracy was commissioned by both England and Spain to fight each other. Anyway, I'm telling too much...
Quote from: SoNowThenNo, it's more like... hmmm, I don't wanna be hasty and fuck this explanation up. It kinda follows a guy's rise from galley slave through to pirate and then on to more and more power and fame.
*cough*PrincessBride*cough* ;)
No, not at all. I left out the last half of our story. Trust me -- NOT at all like Princess Bride. More like Ben Hur, if Ben Hur got really power mad and fucked up at the end.
sounds pretty good
i cant wait to hear more about it.
Yeah, he's been toiling on it for 3 years now, with my help mainly coming for the last year. Lots of shit has come and gone (including a love interest subplot which I convinced him to oust). We plan to have a showable draft of the script by mid next year.
Quote from: TheVoiceOfNickI thought that the movie wasn't bad at all... my only complaint would be that the story and situations were such rip offs of Star Wars (a new hope)... Bloom's character was totally Luke Skywalker... had a mysterious past, the son of a great leader who was a good man (but obviously was bad because he was a pirate), the Obiwan Kenobi inside of Sparrow, the scene with all of the hookers where they find a crew (total Mos Eisley Cantina), certain scenes with Barbosa looking like the emporer on the death star, the last scene where sparrow is almost hung (shot similarly to how star wars ends with the awards presentation)... hell, Keira Knightley was even IN episode 1!!! This movie just begs for a prequel trilogy!
Good points, and I noticed them, too, but Star Wars itself was more or less a space-swashbuckler. At worst, PotC:TCotBP borrowed from Star Wars, which in turn borrowed from Kurosawa and swashbucklers....
Interesting observation, but I wouldn't knock PotC:TCotBP on that basis alone...
really, PotC:TCotBP... we may as well just write out the title, yeah? That's the longest, most ridiculous title substitute ever...
Quote from: SoNowThenreally, PotC:TCotBP... we may as well just write out the title, yeah? That's the longest, most ridiculous title substitute ever...
Fine, POTC.
:roll:
Hehehe. It's better.
Quote from: SoNowThenreally, PotC:TCotBP... we may as well just write out the title, yeah? That's the longest, most ridiculous title substitute ever...
hahahahaha that's hilarious
I finally saw it this weekend. Absolutely loved it.
Everything good has already been said, so I'll just recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
Quote from: mindfuckI don't have much to say that hasn't already been said. Depp was brilliant. I loved noticing that he seemed to borrow some of his movement patterns and hand gestures from his Fear and Loathing performance.
I'm in total agreement. I throughly enjoyed it, got to be a little long towards the end, but was the perfect summer action movie.
Also, having ridden the Disneyland ride many, many times, it was pretty funny seeing all the references to the ride; the Mickey Mouse ears in the clouds, luring the dog with the bone, the drunk laying against the pigs, etc.
This was such a treat, I loved everything about it and think it was amazingly well achieved. It managed to pull off a retro swashbuckler without being corny or sentimental. I thought it was exceptionally well written, the dialogue was great and the plot was perfectly paced and had enough going on. The performances aside, I loved the atmospheric design, the editing, the energy of the camerawork and the score: I thought they all hit the perfect balance between light and dark.
Johnny Depp... God, give him an Oscar. He has to be the most versatile and physically adept actor out there. As well as so stunningly gorgeous. His timing is imaculate, and yes, I agree that his performance was stuffed with improvisation. The editors must have been spoilt for choice. The first thing I thought of when he made his fabulous entrance was Adam Ant, but the Keith Richards comparison is funny. His accent was spot on, by the way, and I love what he did with his voice, lowering it and roughing it up.
I've only ever seen Orlando Bloom being interviewed, and I was dubious before seeing this, but I think he was perfectly cast (as was everyone else). Someone mentioned him being too straight, but he had to be upright... and he wasn't pompous or boring. He was a buck in the Errol Flynn mode, and the chemistry and complement with Sparrow/Depp was great - hence the frisson of them fighting side by side. I found him completely likeable and suitably energetic, absolutely convincing in a difficult part, up against Depp's charisma.
Though she seems to have won a few hearts here, I have to say the only performer I found less than wonderful was Keira Knightley, though I think she was adequate. The character was well-written, not too exaggeratedly feisty but given plenty to do, I just found the actor a little bland. I guess in the same way that some people find Bloom to be. It was a showcase for the men, though, in which she just managed to hold her own.
I do agree that it was slightly too long, but I enjoyed the whole thing so much that it doesn't really matter. Hope there's a sequel; Bloom could get to fill out his character and no doubt discover his dark side, Knightley could become more interesting and Johnny Depp could just go on and on forever.
This has made me even more of a Bruckheimer fan.
ummm.... :shock: ..... 8)
Quote from: budgieThough she seems to have won a few hearts here, I have to say the only performer I found less than wonderful was Keira Knightley, though I think she was adequate. The character was well-written, not too exaggeratedly feisty but given plenty to do, I just found the actor a little bland. I guess in the same way that some people find Bloom to be. It was a showcase for the men, though, in which she just managed to hold her own.
I found this to be the case more so in "Bend It Like Beckham" than here. I think she's getting better. And I hope as she gets more roles because of all her hype, and work with better actors (her next film is "King Arthur" with Clive Owen, another Bruckheimer production), hopefully she will absorb some of their talent.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackmanummm.... :shock: ..... 8)
You can be such a prig sometimes. :yabbse-sad:
Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom are just so damn sexy. Love them both as actors aswell of course!!!! Also the whole pirate thing is a turn on.
Quote from: budgieYou can be such a prig sometimes. :yabbse-sad:
Are you trying to see past the movie's tired conventions, or do you see it as parody? I'm just surprised that someone like you who likes deeper & more original stuff would find so much to like in this movie.
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Are you trying to see past the movie's tired conventions, or do you see it as parody? I'm just surprised that someone like you who likes deeper & more original stuff would find so much to like in this movie.
But you also know that I think 'deeper' and 'more original' are tired critical conventions. And that I like the idea of remakes.
I would by no means call it a parody, and if it were only that I wouldn't have enjoyed it. What I like is when a film reworks genre and constantly slips between memories of other films/cultural references (eg. Depp as Keith Richards, MacGuffin's memories of the ride) and new sensations. It reworks
you, if you let it. I don't think that's a trivial or 'shallow' effect, I think it's pretty deep, and isn't it the effect of all films, whatever style? I think Pirates does this excellently, with total conviction and gusto (same reason I like Goldmember) and a real barrage of information. I like it for the same reason everyone is raving about Johnny Depp: it doesn't quite fit.
Quote from: budgieKeira Knightley,
I don't quite understand her appeal either....she's cute, at times, liked her more in Beckham....not necessarly a bad casting choice here, but I think they coulda done better for the same amount of money....
Johnny Depp to Play Ozzy Osbourne?
Source: The Herald Sun
After an amazing performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, Johnny Depp is rumored to be interested in playing Ozzy Osbourne in Paramount and MTV's feature biopic about the heavy-metal prince of darkness.
According to The Herald Sun, Depp has been "fascinated" for years by the former Black Sabbath frontman-cum-reality TV star and the trade says he can't wait to take on Osbourne's distinctive accent and characteristics. Depp reportedly described Osbourne as "a deeply fascinating human".
Variety previously said that Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne gave Paramount and MTV first crack at his life rights because of the TV relationship. No writer or filmmakers had yet been hired.
It was also recently revealed that director Tim Burton wants Johnny Depp to play Willy Wonka in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the new live-action adaptation of the Roald Dahl classic children's novel.
christ....like that fuckin' show isn't enough Ozzy bullshit already....Yeah Go MTV....the originality is amazing....
Quote from: budgieQuote from: Jeremy Blackman
Are you trying to see past the movie's tired conventions, or do you see it as parody? I'm just surprised that someone like you who likes deeper & more original stuff would find so much to like in this movie.
But you also know that I think 'deeper' and 'more original' are tired critical conventions. And that I like the idea of remakes.
I would by no means call it a parody, and if it were only that I wouldn't have enjoyed it. What I like is when a film reworks genre and constantly slips between memories of other films/cultural references (eg. Depp as Keith Richards, MacGuffin's memories of the ride) and new sensations. It reworks you, if you let it. I don't think that's a trivial or 'shallow' effect, I think it's pretty deep, and isn't it the effect of all films, whatever style? I think Pirates does this excellently, with total conviction and gusto (same reason I like Goldmember) and a real barrage of information. I like it for the same reason everyone is raving about Johnny Depp: it doesn't quite fit.
mmmm hmmmm
I wish I could explain things as well as this.....it doesn't quite fit.
that's nice
I finally got around to seeing this and I loved it.
I mean it doesn't pretend to be anything it's not.
Very classic and yes, Depp is awesome. I won't go on, this topic seems to be pretty dead. I keep seeing shit two or three weeks after everyone's done talking about it. I just saw Whale Rider too.
Quote from: MacGuffinJohnny Depp to Play Ozzy Osbourne?
Source: The Herald Sun
After an amazing performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, Johnny Depp is rumored to be interested in playing Ozzy Osbourne in Paramount and MTV's feature biopic about the heavy-metal prince of darkness.
According to The Herald Sun, Depp has been "fascinated" for years by the former Black Sabbath frontman-cum-reality TV star and the trade says he can't wait to take on Osbourne's distinctive accent and characteristics. Depp reportedly described Osbourne as "a deeply fascinating human".
Variety previously said that Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne gave Paramount and MTV first crack at his life rights because of the TV relationship. No writer or filmmakers had yet been hired.
It was also recently revealed that director Tim Burton wants Johnny Depp to play Willy Wonka in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, the new live-action adaptation of the Roald Dahl classic children's novel.
I just lost some respect for Johnny Depp.
Quote from: budgieI would by no means call it a parody, and if it were only that I wouldn't have enjoyed it. What I like is when a film reworks genre and constantly slips between memories of other films/cultural references (eg. Depp as Keith Richards, MacGuffin's memories of the ride) and new sensations. It reworks you, if you let it. I don't think that's a trivial or 'shallow' effect, I think it's pretty deep, and isn't it the effect of all films, whatever style? I think Pirates does this excellently, with total conviction and gusto (same reason I like Goldmember) and a real barrage of information. I like it for the same reason everyone is raving about Johnny Depp: it doesn't quite fit.
I knew it.
It's either that I'm not in college mode, or that I'm too annoyed by retreads to find something like that in a movie like this. And I could probably never enjoy this movie for what it is, cause I'm suspicious of its intentions.
any man who has seen captain ron with kurt russel would spit in your face for saying such a thing :: scoffs::
yet however was he really a pirate, or was he a captain
if i think to much about this i will end up like that guyy Vizzini in the princess bride played by Wallace Shawn , in that battle of witts scene
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI knew it.
Haha, and I knew you knew it.
QuoteIt's either that I'm not in college mode, or that I'm too annoyed by retreads to find something like that in a movie like this. And I could probably never enjoy this movie for what it is, cause I'm suspicious of its intentions.
That makes me sigh. What exactly do you think its intentions are? Come on, make me say 'I knew it'.
RK loved the movie... I knew it.
Burton wants Depp for Wonka... I knew it.
I'm just too good.
Quote from: budgieI'm just too good.
got that right. hav u got nothing to say about my american splendor (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2674&highlight) review?
Quote from: PQuote from: budgieI'm just too good.
got that right. hav u got nothing to say about my american splendor (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2674&highlight) review?
{chuckle}
Feeling comfortable now?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: budgieI would by no means call it a parody, and if it were only that I wouldn't have enjoyed it. What I like is when a film reworks genre and constantly slips between memories of other films/cultural references (eg. Depp as Keith Richards, MacGuffin's memories of the ride) and new sensations. It reworks you, if you let it. I don't think that's a trivial or 'shallow' effect, I think it's pretty deep, and isn't it the effect of all films, whatever style? I think Pirates does this excellently, with total conviction and gusto (same reason I like Goldmember) and a real barrage of information. I like it for the same reason everyone is raving about Johnny Depp: it doesn't quite fit.
I knew it.
It's either that I'm not in college mode, or that I'm too annoyed by retreads to find something like that in a movie like this. And I could probably never enjoy this movie for what it is, cause I'm suspicious of its intentions.
dude, it's an entertaining movie, Johnny makes you smile and laugh every single shot he's in, nuff said
if that doesn't appeal to you, then yes, you will never enjoy it or be happy in life
Quote from: poserif that doesn't appeal to you, then yes, you will never enjoy it or be happy in life
:yabbse-cry:
Quote from: budgieQuote from: PQuote from: budgieI'm just too good.
got that right. hav u got nothing to say about my american splendor (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2674&highlight) review?
{chuckle}
Feeling comfortable now?
how bout this kitten...i will split yo pink meats and run deep till the poo nanny falls asleep...i have watch ed u frum a far and am now ready to drive mamas car...dont dis appoint me or i wheel 211 yo british ass and crack dawg in the bun...
my devotion plays lyke the ocean and this full moon is the ruin of hi tide...
wanna manyon in the canyon?
wanna play ball with paul?
touch em all...strip down for the army crawl
dirty knees please
Just announced from Buena Vista Home Entertainment is a December 2nd street date for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. The second biggest hit of the year, this two-disc set comes complete with a 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track, three audio commentaries with director Gore Verbinski and star Johnny Depp, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and stars Keira Knightley and Jack Davenport, and writers Stuart Beattie, Ted Elliot & Terry Rossio and Jay Wolpert, the "An Epic At Sea: The Making of Pirates of the Caribbean" documentary, deleted scenes,a "Moonlight" scene progression, blooper reel, "Below Deck: An Interactive History Of Pirates" notes and a still gallery . Retail is $29.95.
Yay, well, I'm definetly going to buying it, when it comes to the uk!
Johnny Depp Likens U.S. to 'Dumb Puppy'
BERLIN (AP) - Actor Johnny Depp likened the United States to a "dumb puppy that has big teeth'' in an interview published Wednesday, ridiculing Washington's confrontation with France, where he lives, over the war in Iraq.
The "Pirates of the Caribbean'' star - who spends much of his time in the south of France with his companion, Vanessa Paradis, and their two children - told the German magazine Stern he couldn't see himself paying more than short visits to his Los Angeles residence in the present political climate.
"America is dumb, is something like a dumb puppy that has big teeth - that can bite and hurt you, aggressive,'' Depp was quoted as saying.
Depp recalled that French fries were renamed "Freedom fries'' in the House cafeteria on Capitol Hill at the height of U.S. anger over France's refusal to back the administration of President Bush over the war in Iraq.
"Nothing made me happier than when I read that - grown men and grown women in positions of power in the United States government,'' Depp said. "I was ecstatic because they revealed themselves as idiots.''
Depp said he wanted his two children, ages 1 and 4, to experience the United States "like it's a kind a toy - a broken toy maybe. Investigate a little bit, check it out, get this feeling and then get out.''
Quote from: mehow bout this kitten...i will split yo pink meats and run deep till the poo nanny falls asleep...i have watch ed u frum a far and am now ready to drive mamas car...dont dis appoint me or i wheel 211 yo british ass and crack dawg in the bun...
my devotion plays lyke the ocean and this full moon is the ruin of hi tide...
wanna manyon in the canyon?
wanna play ball with paul?
touch em all...strip down for the army crawl
dirty knees please
It had to be August.
Playing ball with Paul was last year's dream, and full of rocks.
Well, I still wouldn't say no to Johnny Depp.
I'm going to say my opinion on what he has said there though. I would probably get my head kicked in. . .
Depp Says Comments Were Not Anti-U.S.
LOS ANGELES - Johnny Depp said he intended no "anti-American sentiment" in comparing the nation to a dumb puppy and blamed news reports for misrepresenting his opinions.
Depp, star of the summer hit movie "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl," apologized in a statement to those "who were offended, affected or hurt by this insanely twisted deformation of my words and intent." Stern, the German magazine that interviewed the actor, stood by its story.
Depp was quoted as saying that "America is dumb, is something like a dumb puppy that has big teeth - that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."
In a statement Thursday, the 40-year-old actor complained that "the inaccurate and out of context misquote" was "virulently spreading in the news."
"Taken in context, what I was saying was that, compared to Europe, America is a very young country and we are still growing as a nation. It is a shame that the metaphor I used was taken so radically out of context and slung about irresponsibly by the news media," Depp said.
"There was no anti-American sentiment. In fact, it was just the opposite," he said. "I am an American. I love my country and have great hopes for it. It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it. I have benefited greatly from the freedom that exists in my country and for this I am eternally grateful."
Stern magazine news editor Hans-Peter Junker said Friday that Depp's quotes were "not taken out of context."
"Stern regrets that Johnny Depp is being criticized for his outspoken remarks in his homeland," Junker said. "Stern stands by its account."
Depp spends much of his time in the south of France with his companion, Vanessa Paradis, and their two children. According to the Stern article, Depp said he couldn't see himself paying more than short visits to his Los Angeles residence in the present political climate.
Any stories about people lashing out at Depp? I don't think he should have backed down. Disappointing.
Ha ha, thats what I was going to say, but I didn't want to start something....
I like the French. But I have reason.
Damn, hes really 40 years old?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanAny stories about people lashing out at Depp? I don't think he should have backed down. Disappointing.
yea i haven't heard anything either. no one seems to know about it.
Quote from: MacGuffinDepp Says Comments Were Not Anti-U.S.
LOS ANGELES - Johnny Depp said he intended no "anti-American sentiment" in comparing the nation to a dumb puppy and blamed news reports for misrepresenting his opinions.
Depp, star of the summer hit movie "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl," apologized in a statement to those "who were offended, affected or hurt by this insanely twisted deformation of my words and intent." Stern, the German magazine that interviewed the actor, stood by its story.
Depp was quoted as saying that "America is dumb, is something like a dumb puppy that has big teeth - that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."
In a statement Thursday, the 40-year-old actor complained that "the inaccurate and out of context misquote" was "virulently spreading in the news."
"Taken in context, what I was saying was that, compared to Europe, America is a very young country and we are still growing as a nation. It is a shame that the metaphor I used was taken so radically out of context and slung about irresponsibly by the news media," Depp said.
"There was no anti-American sentiment. In fact, it was just the opposite," he said. "I am an American. I love my country and have great hopes for it. It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it. I have benefited greatly from the freedom that exists in my country and for this I am eternally grateful."
Stern magazine news editor Hans-Peter Junker said Friday that Depp's quotes were "not taken out of context."
"Stern regrets that Johnny Depp is being criticized for his outspoken remarks in his homeland," Junker said. "Stern stands by its account."
Depp spends much of his time in the south of France with his companion, Vanessa Paradis, and their two children. According to the Stern article, Depp said he couldn't see himself paying more than short visits to his Los Angeles residence in the present political climate.
Thanks for posting this Mac. Fucking media, taking things out of context...
Why can't these magazines just have artists talk about their art, instead of goading them into these hot topics?
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Title: Pirates Of The Carribean
Starring: Johnny Depp
Released: December 2nd 2003
SRP: $29.99
Further Details
Buena Vista Home Entertainment have officially announced the region one release of the much anticipated Pirates Of The Carribean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl starring Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley. This two disc release will be available to own in shops from the 2nd December this year with the disc retailing at around $29.99.
-2.35:1 Anamorphic Widescreen Transfer
-English Dolby Digital 5.1 Track
-French Language Soundtrack
-Audio Commentary with Director Gore Verbinski and Johnny Depp
-Audio Commentary with Jerry Bruckheimer, Keira Knightley and Jack Davenport
-Audio Commentary with Writers Stuart Beattie, Ted Elliot & Terry Rossio and Jay Wolpert
-The Making of Pirates of the Caribbean Featurette
-An Interactive History Of Pirates Feature
-Moonlight Scene Progression Feature
-Various Deleted Scenes
-Image Gallery
-Blooper Reel
-English and French Subtitles
Quote from: SoNowThenFucking media, taking things out of context...
Yeah, I hate those guys. :)
Johnny Depp to Cameo in French Film & Oscar Hopes
Source: Reuters
Johnny Depp will make a cameo appearance in Yvan Attal's second directorial feature, Ils se Marierent et Eurent Beaucoup d'Enfants (They Married and Had Lots of Children). The movie details the story of a group of eclectic couples entangled in a web of romantic intrigue.
Charlotte Gainsbourg, Attal's wife and co-star in his directorial debut, My Wife is an Actress, will star in the movie, as will Alain Chabat, Emmanuel Seigner, Alain Cohen, Claude Berry and Anouk Aimee. Due to be shot in Paris, the production is in the early stages of development and has no budget set.
Meanwhile, Disney is making plans to mount an Oscar campaign for Depp's swashbuckling performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. "Absolutely we are!," a Disney executive tells Los Angeles Daily News. "He created something dynamic and original, and every single review raved about him."
Quote from: MacGuffinJohnny Depp to Cameo in French Film & Oscar Hopes
Source: Reuters
Meanwhile, Disney is making plans to mount an Oscar campaign for Depp's swashbuckling performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. "Absolutely we are!," a Disney executive tells Los Angeles Daily News. "He created something dynamic and original, and every single review raved about him."
yeah i think that would be awsome but i dont see it happening
Totally. Who says only dramatic acting gets Oscar noms?
I didn't. I swear.
Quote from: BankyQuote from: MacGuffinJohnny Depp to Cameo in French Film & Oscar Hopes
Source: Reuters
Meanwhile, Disney is making plans to mount an Oscar campaign for Depp's swashbuckling performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. "Absolutely we are!," a Disney executive tells Los Angeles Daily News. "He created something dynamic and original, and every single review raved about him."
yeah i think that would be awsome but i dont see it happening
GG fo shizzie
Quote from: poserQuote from: BankyQuote from: MacGuffinJohnny Depp to Cameo in French Film & Oscar Hopes
Source: Reuters
Meanwhile, Disney is making plans to mount an Oscar campaign for Depp's swashbuckling performance in Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. "Absolutely we are!," a Disney executive tells Los Angeles Daily News. "He created something dynamic and original, and every single review raved about him."
yeah i think that would be awsome but i dont see it happening
GG fo shizzie
Totally!!!....and from what i can remember that came out this year so far, he would be the front runner for Actor Musical/Comdey....can anyone else think of any other nominees that could also be nominated?
From the way the ad campaigns have been running, Bill Murray will probably end up in comedy for Lost In Translation.
Quote from: GhostboyFrom the way the ad campaigns have been running, Bill Murray will probably end up in comedy for Lost In Translation.
I havent seen it yet, i will soon though, but I would have though that was a dramatic/semi-comedic role from trailers.
Thought this was funny.
From: If They Mated, the Conan O'Brian segment.
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If the images don't work go here (http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/iftheymated/), click on the Nicole - Kravitz pic, it's the eighth one.
No way Depp's getting an Oscar, or deserves one, for his Pirates role. But he was still entertaning.
I'm campaigning Murray! Murray! Murray! Oh, and Johanssen.
Gore set sails again with PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 2
Fresh from his highest-grossing film to date, director Gore Verbinski has signed a deal that will see him helm PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 2 for Walt Disney Pictures. It appears as if all the major players save for villain Geoffrey Rush are returning for the second sailing including stars Johnny Depp, Kiera Knightly, Orlando Bloom and producer Jerry "Everything I touch turns to gold" Bruckheimer.
But when will PIRATES 2 start filming? That's a good question. Right now everyone is waiting for the script to be delivered, from the same writing team that penned the first adventure (namely, Terry Rossio and Ted Elliott.)
Back-to-Back Pirates of the Caribbean Sequels Coming?
Source: Variety
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, the second film this year to gross $300 million in domestic box office, may earn a distinction that's even more uncommon: back-to-back sequels shot in one simultaneous production. Recent successes which have followed the same format are Warner Bros.' "Matrix" sequels and New Line's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy.
Sources close to the film say the producers are pondering the possibility of back-to-back sequels, and talks have begun to secure the cast should Disney pursue that avenue.
Returning for at least one sequel are producer Jerry Bruckheimer, director Gore Verbinski, writers Terry Rossio and Ted Elliott (who haven't completed the script), and talent Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley.
No start date has been set yet.
here's some caps from the movie...
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what a perfect way to begin a movie. depp's influence here is cleary buster keaton.
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i like the angle when we see a ship from under. notice the ship wrecks and more interestingly the hammer head sharks.
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one of the final shots of the movie. this shot reminds me of a scene in "once upon a time in the west" except under different circumstances. pretty nice though don't ya think?
Quote from: mogwaiwhat a perfect way to begin a movie. depp's influence here is cleary buster keaton.
Good call, mog. I was reminded of the Navigator the second I saw that in theatres.
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: mogwaiwhat a perfect way to begin a movie. depp's influence here is cleary buster keaton.
Good call, mog. I was reminded of the Navigator the second I saw that in theatres.
no shit? i had no idea man... :lol:
Pirates of the Caribbean Sequels Confirmations!
Source: Coming Soon! Saturday, May 15, 2004
Two cool news bits have come in this weekend about the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels. First up, Dark Horizons received a report from the NATO (North American Theatre Owners) annual meeting where Disney talked about the franchise.
He went on to talk about the sequel(s) to Pirates and said the entire cast and production team would be back. He said production would begin shortly on Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3 and they would be released six months apart in 2006. This was news to me as I had only heard their was going to be one sequel.
This confirms earlier speculation by the Hollywood trades that Disney was going to shoot two sequels at once, much like the second and third "Matrix" films.
ComingSoon.net has also confirmed with a very reliable source that Johnny Depp's wish has come true. Rolling Stones' Keith Richards will indeed play Captain Jack Sparrow's dad in the sequel. As you probably know by now, Depp modeled Sparrow in the first film after the musician.
Quote from: themodernage02Pirates of the Caribbean Sequels Confirmations!...
ComingSoon.net has also confirmed with a very reliable source that Johnny Depp's wish has come true. Rolling Stones' Keith Richards will indeed play Captain Jack Sparrow's dad in the sequel. As you probably know by now, Depp modeled Sparrow in the first film after the musician.
That alone (if true) should make it quite interesting and potential to be insanely hilarious.
Richards To Play Depp's Father
Hollywood hunk Johnny Depp's wish has been granted - Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards is set to play his father in Pirates Of The Caribbean: Treasures Of The Lost Abyss. Depp has admitted that he based his character Captain Jack Sparrow on the aging rocker when he shot the 2003 hit Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl, and now the stars are reportedly set to team up on screen. Earlier this year, Depp was alleged to have expressed an interest in Richards playing his father. The sequel is set to begin filming in February, with director Gore Verbinski taking the helm again.
haha, perfect. this is like Michael Caine being Austin Powers dad in the sequel.