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Film Discussion => News and Theory => Topic started by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 11:47:55 AM

Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 11:47:55 AM
Something I thought of while PMing today...

please post some movie titles that deal with this. But no happy endings please. Nothing where the guy gets the object of his affection. Are there any really good ones where it's just prevailing sadness on the part of the guy? None are coming to my mind right now...

I guess, maybe, All The Real Girls might fit, but he at least got the girl for a little while, and she actually loved him, so ...hmmm... it doesn't quite count.

Can anyone think of any??
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 25, 2003, 11:50:28 AM
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Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 11:54:01 AM
Hmm, then I will have to watch.

But anything more 20-somethingish... and closer to a non-plotted film?
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Ernie on June 25, 2003, 11:54:18 AM
Edward Scissorhands
George Washington (w/ Buddy and Nasia)
Jungle Fever
Almost Famous
The Virgin Suicides
Requiem for a Dream
Y Tu Mama Tambien
Adaptation

I'll second All the Real Girls too...probably the best example I can think of.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 11:55:08 AM
I want to say Leaving Las Vegas.  Definitely not a happy ending... :)
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: ono on June 25, 2003, 11:55:38 AM
There's Something About Mary  :-P

Leaving Las Vegas isn't about the woman, though.  She's just along for his last ride.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 11:57:30 AM
actually, yeah, I just re-watched it a couple days ago, can't believe I didn't think of that one...

Leaving Las Vegas is almost perfect, except that Sara loved Ben. We need one where the chick doesn't give two shits about the guy...
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 11:58:26 AM
I have to disagree.  There was a love there (however fragile); boiled down they really cared for each other.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Pubrick on June 25, 2003, 12:48:34 PM
so i guess this whole thread will be spoilerful. i don't think i'll be checking this one for replies.

for my part, i'll say Age of Innocence. and that's that.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Cecil on June 25, 2003, 12:49:10 PM
lost highway
boxing helena (i guess)
taxi driver (i guess)
in the company of men
the shape of things
RoA
u-turn
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
Hey, what about Luke Wilson and Gwenyth Paltrow in Tennenbaums?
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Redlum on June 25, 2003, 01:48:06 PM
Chasing Amy
Two Girls and a Guy
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: redlumChasing Amy
Two Girls and a Guy

That doesn't quite count, because the guys in those two films actually did 'score' with the women, even if later on in those films they ended up pining for them....
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 02:00:59 PM
Exactly.



And yeah, Tenenbaums is a good example.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: polkablues on June 25, 2003, 02:49:43 PM
I keep telling people to see this movie, and they never do, but if you want a movie that fits exactly with what you described, for the love of god see "Waking the Dead".
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 02:54:29 PM
Thanks for the tip.   :)
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 03:08:38 PM
Quote from: polkabluesI keep telling people to see this movie, and they never do, but if you want a movie that fits exactly with what you described, for the love of god see "Waking the Dead".

I will check it out.

But I don't think anybody has fit exactly what I asked. I guess I haven't made myself really clear: I mean a totally realistic type of movie where a regular single guy falls in love with a beautiful girl, but she NEVER returns his love, and at the end of the movie is still lonely and sad, and feeling like his life cannot be complete without her. No one dies, no one comes alive again, they never get married, they never fuck. She just doesn't give a shit about him, in that sorta way.

I realize it might be kinda boring, but I just wanna know if such a film exists.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 03:09:44 PM
If there is one, it would be VERY hard to find.  I can't think of any like that.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: godardian on June 25, 2003, 03:30:51 PM
Lara Flynn Boyle to Phil Hoffman in Happiness.

Jean Seberg to Jean-Paul Belmondo in Breathless.

Colette to Antoine in Antoine and Colette.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: modage on June 25, 2003, 03:32:01 PM
well, if tenenbaums counts...

RUSHMORE (max and mrs. cross)

THE APARTMENT (although the ending is happy, the whole movie is pretty downbeat.)

CASABLANCA

GONE WITH THE WIND

ANNIE HALL
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 03:37:45 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenBut I don't think anybody has fit exactly what I asked. I guess I haven't made myself really clear: I mean a totally realistic type of movie where a regular single guy falls in love with a beautiful girl, but she NEVER returns his love, and at the end of the movie is still lonely and sad, and feeling like his life cannot be complete without her. No one dies, no one comes alive again, they never get married, they never fuck. She just doesn't give a shit about him, in that sorta way.

I realize it might be kinda boring, but I just wanna know if such a film exists.

Nope, none of those really fits, except maybe Max in Rushmore... and I suppose Hoffman in Happiness. But still...

SEE ABOVE
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: godardian on June 25, 2003, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Quote from: SoNowThenBut I don't think anybody has fit exactly what I asked. I guess I haven't made myself really clear: I mean a totally realistic type of movie where a regular single guy falls in love with a beautiful girl, but she NEVER returns his love, and at the end of the movie is still lonely and sad, and feeling like his life cannot be complete without her. No one dies, no one comes alive again, they never get married, they never fuck. She just doesn't give a shit about him, in that sorta way.

I realize it might be kinda boring, but I just wanna know if such a film exists.

Nope, none of those really fits, except maybe Max in Rushmore... and I suppose Hoffman in Happiness. But still...

SEE ABOVE

You're sure Colette and Antoine don't fit your bill??
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 03:44:43 PM
Haven't seen yet. If so, I will be very VERY happy.

My box set is shipping for free from Amazon.ca, so I gotta wait a bit...
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: modage on June 25, 2003, 03:45:18 PM
umm, do you need someone to talk to?  :(

uhh GREAT EXPECTATIONS (Cuaron) is a good story of longing and all that, but they do get together in the last few minutes.  but that'll be good for you.  its 2 hours of misery and a few seconds of hope.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 03:47:36 PM
Which is exactly why I will NEVER watch that. Because the book is just like that, minus the 2 bullshit minutes. And that's why it is one of my favorites of all time.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: godardian on June 25, 2003, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenHaven't seen yet. If so, I will be very VERY happy.

My box set is shipping for free from Amazon.ca, so I gotta wait a bit...

I think you'll find it fits pretty exactly...
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 03:51:43 PM
*pumps fist in air*

Sweeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Derek on June 25, 2003, 04:15:33 PM
Corey Haim in License to Drive

and

Meat Loaf in I Would Do Anything For Love
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: bonanzataz on June 25, 2003, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: DerekCorey Haim in License to Drive

i had to watch this in driver's ed. my driver's ed teacher kicked ass, and so does this movie.

what about that movie Heavy, with Liv Tyler?
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 05:33:58 PM
That's the one I was trying to think of!  That was an odd movie.  Good, but what a strange protagonist.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Ernie on June 25, 2003, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Quote from: polkabluesI keep telling people to see this movie, and they never do, but if you want a movie that fits exactly with what you described, for the love of god see "Waking the Dead".

I will check it out.

But I don't think anybody has fit exactly what I asked. I guess I haven't made myself really clear: I mean a totally realistic type of movie where a regular single guy falls in love with a beautiful girl, but she NEVER returns his love, and at the end of the movie is still lonely and sad, and feeling like his life cannot be complete without her. No one dies, no one comes alive again, they never get married, they never fuck. She just doesn't give a shit about him, in that sorta way.

Not at all man. I would fucking love to see a movie that was about that and nothing else...I'd love to make one like that just the same. That wouldn't be boring at all for me.

Lol, you sounded exactly like Charlie Kaufman in that paragraph...just a little more correct.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 25, 2003, 05:42:50 PM
Kaufman to a T  :lol:
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: SoNowThen on July 11, 2003, 01:00:21 PM
I finally found one: Il Posto.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: pete on July 11, 2003, 11:02:05 PM
most woody allen films, all wes anderson films.
chunking express
A Chinese Odyssey
My Sassy Girl.
Title: Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)
Post by: Alethia on July 11, 2003, 11:48:18 PM
bananas