AN EMPIRE DIVIDED?
REVENGE OF THE SITH?
WHO THE HELL CARES?
Am I the only person that reads Corona/Cinescape? I never notice it being cited for anything
God, I am so over the whole Star Wars saga...
The new movies, save their technical excellence, suck total ass.
Me, I can't wait for the day when people realize that the original movies, despite their technical excellence, suck total ass, too.
I wouldn't believe any title rumors. There were tons of rumored titles for Episode 2 (The Empire Strikes being a favorite), and then they announced that it was Attack Of The Clones and everyone was like 'what?' So we'll find out sometime next fall, I suppose.
I used to read Corona's Coming Attractions, but stopped once they went to Cinescape, which I never liked very much. I stick to AICN and Dark Horizons for all my movie news...they're generally the most reliable.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaMe, I can't wait for the day when people realize that the original movies, despite their technical excellence, suck total ass, too.
Wow. I can't believe how heartily I agree with you on this one. Childhood nostalgia does not a great movie make. Just the opposite, it would seem.\
Were people astounded by how lame a title
Attack of the Clones was, or what?
P.S. Omno- your changing sig lines make me think you have fresh reminders of the witty brilliance of
The Critic. Where? How? It's not being rerun on Com Central again, is it? Those were the days...
Quote from: godardianChildhood nostalgia does not a great movie make
spot on
Quote from: godardianChildhood nostalgia does not a great movie make. Just the opposite, it would seem.
neither does newfound film snobbery. perhaps if everyone could land somewhere in the middle in the realization that there is room for both.
this actually reminds me of my job, when i ask people what their favorite genre of film is, i say, "Is it action, horror, comedy, drama..." and occasionally i'll run into someone who replies their favorite genre is "foreign". FOREIGN, is not a genre. foreign movies come in genres just like american ones do. SUBTITLES do NOT make a film sophisticated. other countries make just as much shit as this one does. i think a lot of people are too quick to go to college, take a film course or two, and then betray their tastes for something more "sophisticated."
Quote from: GhostboyI used to read Corona's Coming Attractions, but stopped once they went to Cinescape, which I never liked very much. I stick to AICN and Dark Horizons for all my movie news...they're generally the most reliable.
same with me. i'm for countingdown.com which is a mass collection of important news from all major news sites, latinoreview has poster exclusives and plenty of news all the time
I think it will be Star Wars Episode III: Attack of the Clones II: The Clones Actually Attack
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think it will be Star Wars Episode III: Attack of the Clones II: The Clones Actually Attack
HAHA! Really...
But honestly, people who complain about "Attack of the Clones" being a stupid title aren't doing much thinking. They're probably just used to hearing the titles of the originals, but they're all like that... "Empire Strikes Back" "Return of the Jedi" "Attack of the Clones" "The Phantom Menace"... all played off of old Flash Gordon episode titles.
I see the new trilogy as a poorly executed reenactment of what happened before the real trilogy. I just need to know, so I watch... the movies aren't great.
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think it will be Star Wars Episode III: Attack of the Clones II: The Clones Actually Attack
HAHA! Really...
I see the new trilogy as a poorly executed reenactment of what happened before the real trilogy. I just need to know, so I watch... the movies aren't great.
YEAH! i was also thinking about that. how stupid, that they dont attack.
yeah... :cry:
Quote from: themodernage02this is the rumored title according to E! which is interesting considering the original title for jedi...
E! also reported the Kutcher-Moore romance, they have been very consistant as of late..... :-D But yeah, Revenge of the Sith sounds great to me, very agressive.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think it will be Star Wars Episode III: Attack of the Clones II: The Clones Actually Attack
brilliant
Star Whores: Episode 1: The Phantom Penis
Star Whores: Episode 2: Attack of the Bones
Star Whores: Episode 4: A New Grope
Star Whores: Episode 5: Her Empire Bites Back
Star Whores: Episode 6: Three Turns on the Jedi
The non-existent porno series.
Quote from: life_boyStar Whores: Episode 1: The Phantom Penis
Star Whores: Episode 2: Attack of the Bones
Star Whores: Episode 4: A New Grope
Star Whores: Episode 5: Her Empire Bites Back
Star Whores: Episode 6: Three Turns on the Jedi
The non-existent porno series.
NOT non-existent for long... *(grabs video camera and darth vader mask)
QuoteChildhood nostalgia does not a great movie make.
For example,
The Never Ending Story.
:shock:
I still like The Neverending Story :(
And I still love the Star Wars trilogy.
From IMDB
The final prequel in the Star Wars franchise will be entitled Episode III: An Empire Divided, according to reports on the internet. Internet critic Harry Knowles, of fabled film website Ain't It Cool News, received a tip off from an Australian contact who spotted an article in a local newspaper, in which a local casting agency talked about recruiting for the film. Correspondent Clinton Kardi noted the casting agency mentioned the title of the new movie, which will begin shooting in Australia shortly, as they talked to the journalist - but Lucasfilm has yet to confirm if the report is true. Frenzied speculation has surrounded the eagerly-awaited film - due for release in 2005 - which will be the last of the legendary Star Wars films from creator George Lucas.
Then the fable is true? There is a site called Aint It Cool News run by a man called Harry Knowles?
AIN debunked that rumor almost immediately after posting it. An Empire Divided is the title of an upcoming video game.
Quote from: GhostboyAIN debunked that rumor almost immediately after posting it. An Empire Divided is the title of an upcoming video game.
Damn, I thought I had beat Macguffin, but now realize it is only a dream
That's why I don't go to AICN for news.
Quote from: MacGuffinThat's why I don't go to AICN for news.
:yabbse-thumbup:
darkhorizons.com
Its all about to get underway in Australia on the last of the sci-fi prequels according to The Sydney Morning Herald. The twelve-week shoot officially begins Monday at the Fox Studios complex in Sydney with a 1000-strong crew, 60 Aussie cast members, and 300 extras all set to help out the key returning actors on the project. Unlike "Episode II" however which did some of its filming in London and other locations, SW3 will be shot pretty much entirely on Fox's soundstages with the sole exception of some visual FX plate photography in Italy, New Zealand & Switzerland. George Lucas finished the final draft of the script on Wednesday, and whilst filming will all be done in the next three months, small return visits for additional filming are expected to take place throughout 2004. Meanwhile one of those stupid title rumours that has appeared in the local press seems to have been solved - "An Empire Divided" is apparently the title of a new Lucasarts Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game based in and around "Star Wars", so while it is a SW title its NOT the film's title.
STAR WARS IS 8)
Star Trek is :silly:
Star Wars will always be the movie that started it all for me... sure, there have been better and worse before it and after it, but nothing got me so excited about movies when I was a kid than the Star Wars trilogy. For each of the new movies i've had super-high hopes, and have always been let down. I'll have super-high hopes for Ep3 because i'm an idiot, but oh well.
Nick
Quote from: themodernage02AN EMPIRE DIVIDED?
REVENGE OF THE SITH?
WHO THE HELL CARES?
RETURN OF THE MULLETS!
www.IMDB.com
Star Wars movie-maker George Lucas is insisting all the characters in the new sci-fi sequel sport shaggy seventies-style haircuts - so they look like the stars of the original films. Star Wars: Episode III actors Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen, currently shooting the final installment on set in New South Wales, Australia, are showing off unfashionable "mullet" hairdos - because they were trendy when the first Star Wars film was made in 1977. An onset source explains, "The idea is that it will lead seamlessly on to the original Star Wars movie, starring Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill, which was filmed in the Seventies and had certain hallmarks of that era. It's a bid for continuity. They are trying to capture the shaggy look that was popular then."
Quote from: halo_onRETURN OF THE MULLETS!www.IMDB.com
Star Wars movie-maker George Lucas is insisting all the characters in the new sci-fi sequel sport shaggy seventies-style haircuts - so they look like the stars of the original films. Star Wars: Episode III actors Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen, currently shooting the final installment on set in New South Wales, Australia, are showing off unfashionable "mullet" hairdos - because they were trendy when the first Star Wars film was made in 1977. An onset source explains, "The idea is that it will lead seamlessly on to the original Star Wars movie, starring Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill, which was filmed in the Seventies and had certain hallmarks of that era. It's a bid for continuity. They are trying to capture the shaggy look that was popular then."
That is about the only thing going for this movie. This, sadly, seems like the only drawing point for me. I was positive I wouldn't make the same mistake a third time, but this might drag me right back in...
aw
Star Wars Episode III: A False Hope
I have no faith in this movie. The original trilogy is great. The government needs to pass a film protection act on the original three to stop Lucas from "improving" them any further.
Quote from: RaikusThe government needs to pass a film protection act on the original three to stop Lucas from "improving" them any further.
I'd vote for that! Of course, when I become a big filmmaker and want to re-release my films 328 times, I will realize that I shot myself in the foot!
Nick
COMIC-CON: Lucasfilm Previews Star Wars: Episode III!
Lucasfilm director of fan relations Steve Sansweet and a band of Star Wars merry-men descended on San Diego Comic Convention today to spread the gospel of Star Wars: Episode III.
The Star Wars portion of the presentation began with a message from producer Rick McCallum, expressing his excitement over beginning the filming of Episode III. Next, Anthony Daniels (C-3PO himself) takes us on a brief tour of the massive Fox Studio Australia sound stage and the set of Episode III, which included Padme's chamber and the deck of a Federation Cruiser. Then he took us through the creature and props departments, which included a look at a new laser rifle. In the wardrobe department, Trisha Biggar was struggling with a particular red costume that looked a bit like a Royal Guard outfit. Following that, a tour of various set construction was set to the Ewok theme.
The first big round of applause came when the camera fixed on a Chewbacca mask. The wide shot of the room revealed several Wookiee masks and body suits.
The 'flannelled one' appeared next on a set he himself described as the 'Emperor's Throne Room'. He spoke briefly about looking forward to having all the fans see the final film... which he said the title of, but was beeped out with the words "Title Censored" flashed across the screen. "Oh, I wasn't suppose to say that yet?" he questioned to someone off-screen.
When the video was over, Sansweet returned to the microphone, quick to say that he didn't know what Lucas had called the third film... "So, don't ask!" he laughed.
Sansweet reassured fans that Episode III will answer the "Why" and "How" of the saga. He added that while most of the main characters are returning, some of the characters from the classic trilogy also emerge, such as Chewie and Mon Mothma. He also promised new vehicles, weapons, creatures and planets that we've only heard or read about.
In closing, Sansweet said Episode III will 'surprise, amaze and shock.' He reinforced that it will be the darkest of the six saga films and promised that it will tie the series together in 'unexpected and surprising' ways.
Quote from: MacGuffin'unexpected and surprising' ways.
Like by actually being really good?
Whatever the case may be, I know that by November of next year, when the first trailer hits, I'll he super excited. It never fails. I've got Star Wars in my blood.
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Whatever the case may be, I know that by November of next year, when the first trailer hits, I'll he super excited. It never fails. I've got Star Wars in my blood.
I know what you mean, GB... I can admit that the prequels suck overall, but it's like a part of me really needs to find out what happened.
And seeing as while the second one still sucked, it was a glorious improvement over the first, so maybe the third will actually be decent.
as disappointing as they may be, I cant say theres anything more exciting than sitting in the theater waiting for the "new star wars film" to start....you see the twentieth century fox logo....then the lucas film logo.....then in blue letters "A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY"......it's a rush, man.
i agree with the last three posts. its in my blood.
Quote from: MacGuffinHe added that while most of the main characters are returning, some of the characters from the classic trilogy also emerge, such as Chewie and Mon Mothma.
yeah. gotta love Mon Moothman.
and yes, i agree. the prequels are gripping in those senses..
i agree w/ the last 5 posts.
The Latest on Star Wars: Episode III
Source: TheForce.net Thursday, July 31, 2003
Star Wars: Episode III is currently filming Down Under and TheForce.net has the latest news (including some spoilers) on the highly-anticipated final film, starting with the subtitle.
According to a scooper for the site, there's been talk that "Episode III" might carry the "Birth of an Empire" subtitle on pre-production material. No word on whether or not this will be the final subtitle, but it would make sense with the storyline for the film.
Meanwhile, TFN says that the official site chatted with Anthony Daniels about "Episode III" and he revealed some interesting bits. Daniels say that C-3PO won't be involved in any fight scenes and that he is finished shooting the part. He called the script "dramatic, believable, frightening, sad, moving, hurtful, and human."
MCN magazine also caught Ewan McGregor taking a break on the set and took the first pictures of the star as Obi-Wan in the film.
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A scan of a photograph of Anakin from the French LucasFilm magazine. Anakin sports a new look that is both darker and more mature-looking in Episode III.
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thats a definate improvment from the look in episode II
Not badass enough but better than the second.
He almost has that "Jeff Fahey in the Lawnmower Man" look going.
(I don't think I'm saying that as a compliment.)
he's dreamy...
Hayden Christensen Raises the Bar for Episode III!
Source: Latino Review
I recently got a chance to interview Hayden Christensen for his upcoming film, Shattered Glass. Like any dorky fan boy, I was chomping at the bit and asked him to confirm some rumors about Episode Three. Kids, put your diapers on because the expectations have been raised. He actually used the term "Bad-Assed" to describe the final showdown between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Another reporter also asked him if he would be donning the infamous Darth Vader costume. He couldn't reveal any details, but he will be in the suit. David Prowse don't give up your day job. 2005 has never seemed farther away!
Julian: George Lucas has described the tone of Episode Three as being the darkest of the franchise yet. Is that true?
Hayden: "Yes, it really will be. It still has to reach out to a specific audience, but it will be substantially darker than the previous films."
Julian: Nick Gilliard (the stunt coordinator) has said the light saber battles in the film will be the greatest so far. That's a bold statement once you've seen Yoda and Count Dooku go at it. Can you confirm this?
Hayden: "I will say, on the record, the final fight sequence in this film will, in my opinion, and not having seen any of it cut together, should surpass any fight sequence that has been put on film so far. It's the longest, I can't give you specifics, but it is quite the bad-assed fight scene. Nick Gilliard has done an amazing job instilling an arc of story in the fight. It justifies, because you know Anakin and Obi-Wan have it out, but Anakin is the chosen one-he is supposed to be the best. But he comes out on the shorter end of the stick in the fight. It justifies it really nicely as the fight progresses."
Julian: Does Jar-Jar get hurt at all?
Hayden: (Laughs) "I wish I could share some specifics."
Julian: You are playing an iconic character in the Star Wars franchise. As the fan base goes, Star Wars fans are pretty hardcore. Do you get hounded on the streets?
Hayden: "They're full on fanatical. But the only people that make a point of embarrassing me on the street are six and seven year olds. I get such a kick out of it. They still can't differentiate between movies and reality to a certain point, so they can't see me as an actor."
Julian: Do you really embrace it, think of doing other sci-fi films, or do you try to move away from it?
Hayden: "I'm very proud of my involvement with the films. I feel privileged to be a part of something that is so prominent in popular culture right now. But they were two films I was involved in. Hopefully I'll get to do many more in many different genres. I don't really see it as something I have to fight against. It's obviously a character that people will associate me with. Its not like I was in a TV series for ten years and that's all they've seen me in. Hopefully they will be able to see me as someone else. That's the fun of what I do. I love that I get to be a part of it."
Julian: Are there a lot of Wookies in Episode Three?
Hayden: "There are some Wookies." (Laughs)
Julian: Are there some butt-kicking Wookies in Episode Three?
Hayden: (Laughs) "I can't say any more, but there are some Wookies in the movie."
QuoteJulian: Are there some butt-kicking Wookies in Episode Three?
*sigh* Probably.
is it wrong to say that i don't care for star wars at all?
Boy, you sure have to admire those questions, from a journalistic standpoint. That guy's like Woodward and Bernstein all wrapped up in one. :roll:
Quote from: governor jimis it wrong to say that i don't care for star wars at all?
yep.
Quote from: NEON MERCURY
yep.
hahhaha
Star Wars: Episodes 7-9: Rumours of George Lucas following up his original trilogy with another down the track have been around for years - some were solid information, most were just wishful thinking. As a result unless something solid comes through on them I'm not touching speculation on the topic with a ten foot pole. Well today came word which whilst not solid, is from an insider source whose regularly provided totally accurate intel so far for over two years on a variety of projects so I tend to take his word for it. If true, its also good news for fans let down by the prequels: "One of my pals at ILM told me a few days back that another trilogy 'might' happen. This is the sequel trilogy that Lucas said he'd never do. It's very very early days yet, but apparently there is some talk, even to the point of Mr Spielberg - who was interested in doing 'Clones' at one point - stepping in for Lucas, who may want to write, but probably won't want to direct. If Lucas doesn't they'll probably work out a deal for say Frank Darabont to pen (ala the current "Indiana Jones IV" arrangement). This one would be the three films following Return of the Jedi, Han Solo, Skywalker, post-Darth etc. How hard of a time are they going to have on their hands getting some of those original players! ha ha! finally a fitting use for CGI hey? The deal is everyone wants the sequels, except Lucas, who is apparently exhausted [Personally I'd say studio pressure]. If Spielberg directs, it could be ok. Better than those terrible prequel movies".
Hayden Christensen Talks Star Wars: Episode III
Source: BBCi Films Tuesday, October 21, 2003
Mr. Anakin Skywalker himself, Hayden Christensen, talked to BBCi Films about the final prequel, Star Wars: Episode III. He says Anakin's turn to the dark side is definitely... dark!
"My character in this one is more or less in the entire film, in every scene in the movie. The character arc is very specific and graduates to the dark side nicely. It was a great part to play. It's definitely darker in tone but I turn into Darth Vader, so how could it not be?"
He adds that "in the first act of the film, there's lots of adventure and Ewan [McGregor] and I are in our element there acting as Jedi Knights. There's a nice banter between the two of us. It has its light-hearted humour but, as the film progresses, it gets darker and darker."
EP3: SPY REPORT: Final Darth Friday II
Fri, Oct 31, 03 04:08:05 PM EST
Darth Friday ends their fateful run of spoilers this infamous Halloween night. It is fitting that some of the darkest scenes would be discussed only now, don't you think? Beware of the Dark Side, this is no trick - all treat:
*POSSIBLE SPOLIERS*
- The Battle of Coruscant will be the biggest space battle the Star Wars franchise has ever seen. Expect to see some cool capital ship vs. capital ship warfare. Each side has lots of varied looking warships. The Republic has ships that are more than just Star Destroyers. Might even see an old Ralph McQuarrie design or two get put into place here.
- Expect one of the final shots of the film to be Vader, Tarkin and Palpatine on a Star Destroyer bridge looking out onto space at the beginnings of a Death Star in progress...(but not necessarily THE last shot of the film...) my understanding of the last shot before iris out will be on Tatooine.
- When Padme faces Anakin on Mustafar, Anakin is incredibly upset with her when he realizes she brought Obi-Wan with her. She led Obi-Wan right to him. From Anakin's point of view, he trusted her and she betrayed him. Anakin force-chokes Padme and throws her aside (where she also hits her head.) Then, the duel begins amidst the corpses of the slaughtered Seperatist leaders.
- The twins are born on a brand new never-before seen world (whose name has not been revealed yet.) They land there when they realize that Padme isn't going to make it if they keep pushing on to Alderaan. The natives of this planet resemble little grey close encounters/roswell aliens. Padme finally succumbs to her wounds suffered from Anakin during the birthing scene. She is able to share a few choice words with Obi-Wan before passing. Bail, Obi-Wan and Yoda hatch the plans for what to do with the children. Bail sees to it that C-3PO's memory is wiped. Yoda is dropped off via escape pod at Dagobah where he will await the proper time to do his part. The jedi have been utterly duped and defeated by films end.
- Medical droids turn the remains of Anakin Skywalker (now named Darth Vader) into the classic trilogy cyborg Darth Vader we know and love. His reveal is very "Frankenstein." (He lays on a slab that slowly rises up when he is completed.) When Vader rises, his first desire is knowledge of Padme's fate. Palpatine calmly and cooly tells him that she is dead and that he(Anakin/Vader) killed her. His sorrow and regret result in an awe-inspiring physical manifestation of the dark side of the force. The entire room buckles and twists away from his anguished screams. Every droid in the room is obliterated. Palpatine has to muster all of his powers just to shield himself from Vader's wrath. Vader's echoed scream segues directly into the next scene: Padme's funeral procession.
Samuel L. Jackson Talks Star Wars: Episode III
TheForce.net talked to Samuel L. Jackson about playing Mace Windu again in Star Wars: Episode III. He says George Lucas won't disappoint in the final prequel:
Q: OK, now that you´ve finished your participation in the "Star Wars" movies.
A: Not necessarily.
Q: Well, maybe there are some pick-up shots left (nods his head in agreement), how was the experience of portraying a Jedi Knight?
A: It´s been awesome! It was a lot more than I bargain for when I asked, you know, to be in the films. George Lucas did an enormous kind of favor for me by creating this particular role because I was just asking for being in the film. I was willing kind of being a stormtrooper or whatever, run to a frame or something and say, I was in the film! That´s me, right there! He created this really interesting character for me that is an important character that, now, has...I guess, a place the "Star Wars" lore that's pretty prominent.
I think in Episode III he's definetely answered a lot of the questions that people had over the years about how this particular thing happened or why this person is this way, you know...who is connected to this and who is connected to that, but I think, he´s also done what a lot of people has asked and probably gone a little further in that people was so angry about the first episode because they thought it was just a kiddy movie and the second episode because is kind of, well...that didn´t answer all the things we need.
So now, he has put all these things together and tied it up. It's very dark and shakespearean...and adult, and more violent than a "Star Wars" movie used to be. Hopefully they´ll be satisfied with this particular episode.
Q: You wanted to be in these films...you got it. You asked for a purple light saber...you got it. Did you get the proper death you demanded for your character ?
A: (Laughing)Yeah...I did.
I've really enjoyed Jackson's fanboy attitude toward the prequels. He's really having fun with it, regardless of whether these are great movies or not.
I'd love to hear a Jackson commentary track on the original trilogy, when they release it next year (hint, hint). That would just be cool. You know, for one of the four commentary tracks -- Lord of the Rings did it, so why not Lucas? -- on each movie, just have a bunch of current Hollywood bigwigs who have been influenced by the Star Wars pantheon. I mean, how groovy would it be to listen to, say, Samuel Jackson, Kevin Smith and Kevin Williamson sitting around and drinking beers while watching "The Empire Strikes Back."?
There are times that I think Mace Windu's stadium entrance and "This party's over" line is the best moment of the prequels thus far.
i would love to hear Kevin Smith commentary, but nothing like that would ever come together.
I would love somone with the means and knowledge to somehow do XIXAX commentary. Like a few people could meet in an audio conference on the web and then watch a movie together. Others could than listen after the commentary is posted. I guess this is similar to the Magnolia fan commentary. I just think it would be cool to match voices with names and avatars. I would definantly listen to commentaries by XIXAX members.
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Too much leather.
Some stills (http://www.movie-vault.com/cgi-bin/news2/viewnews.cgi?id=EpZkkVEFEyNqDJThoO&style=OneItemStyle)
not enuff leather.
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in a bizarre interdimensional shift, Lucas' soul is temporarily replaced with that of a drink and paper holder.
If you're enough of a fan to put up with really crappy video quality and an out of place AC/DC song, your first look at Episode III can be found here. (http://www.filmhobbit.com/moviereviews/madness/swvideo.html)
The wicked look on Haydens face in that video gets my blood pumping. I'm definitely Lucas' little whore.
A picture of Oscar-nominated actress Keisha Castle-Hughes:
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just the right amount of leather.
TheForce.net reports that Dreamwatch magazine has published an interview with fight coordinator Nick Gillard who goes into detail about the lightsaber battles in the third and final prequel:
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Ready...Jedi...Go
Nick Gillard feels the Force will be strong in Star Wars: Episode III. "It's going to be the best prequel. I can't see how it won't be," says Gillard, the veteran stunt co-ordinator whose outstanding fight sequences have been one of the undisputed highlights of the new Star Wars trilogy.
"Episode III has got everything the other films had and more! The movie is 60 to 70 per cent fighting. Ewan [McGregor, Obi-Wan Kenobi] had 1,000 moves to learn, as opposed to the three pages he had to learn in The Phantom Menace. There's tons of fighting in this one."
"Episode III also ties in beautifully with all the other movies. And when I read the script, I was really surprised by how emotional it is."
"Everyone working on the film took so much care with it," he states. "Nobody wants to get it wrong."
Fighting Talk
Set three years after events in Attack of the Clones, Episode III focuses on the fall of the Jedi, the rise of the Empire and Anakin Skywalker's transformation into Darth Vader. As the film is currently in the early stages of post-production and won't be released until May 2005, Gillard is understandably reluctant to give too much away about specific plot points at this early stage. But he does confirm that the movie features the long-awaited lightsaber duel between Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) and his former mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
"It's a monster of a sequence," reveals Gillard. "I had a couple of years to think about it and think about what George [Lucas, writer/director] had told me about it, and it was daunting because I knew how important that sequence is. I spent probably a year deconstructing the Jedi style of fighting to make it work. I had Hayden with me eight weeks before we started shooting it and I had Ewan six weeks, which wasn't really enough time, so we often had to rehearse at weekends during the filming."
"If it comes out like I saw it being shot, it's going to be phenominal," he promises.
Gillard also reports that the duel will explain how Obi-Wan is able to defeat his protege, even though Anakin has been established as the most powerful Jedi who ever lived. "Obi-Wan taught Anakin and Anakin has gone past him," he notes. "But when you get to that duel, it's emotional. That's where the mistake will be made. And if you know the characters, you know Obi-Wan isn't going to get emotional and he doesn't make mistakes."
Anakin's grisly demise at the end of the duel is set to be one of the most chilling moments in the entire saga. It will also help make Episode III the most intense Star Wars movie since The Empire Strikes Back.
"Episode III is really dark," confirms Gillard. "There's rumours of it being a PG. I've made it as violent as I absolutely possibly can. If something had to be cut off in a scene, it was a painful thing!"
In-between choreographing Episode III's epic action sequences, Gillard also filmed a cameo role in the movie. "I am in it as a hologram. George said I had to be in it. He wanted to call me "The Troll', but I managed to change it to 'Cin Drallig', my name backwards---though I will probably end up as The Troll."
"It was nice to do, and I think I will become an action figure eventually--they laser-beamed me along with everyone else."
Duel Purpose
A veteran stunt co-ordinator whose credits include Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Interview with a Vampire and Aliens, Gillard began working on the Star Wars prequel trilogy in 1997, when he joined the crew of Star Wars: Episode I--The Phantom Menace. His first task was to develop a new style of lightsaber fighting for the trilogy's characters.
"I loved the original films," he says, "but once I took the job, I looked at them and thought, "Things have moved on. I can't make the fights the same as they were back then. I have to up the ante'."
"I developed different styles for the characters, and gave each of them a flaw or a bonus. So with Obi, for instance, he's got a very business-like style--when he was younger he could border on the flashy and might twirl his lightsaber a bit, because he was taught by Qui-Gonn. Qui-Gonn was brash, that rubbed off on Obi and Obi then taught Anakin, who was way too old to learn anyway."
"I think the style really worked well. The Jedi style of fighting is an amalgamation of all the great swordfighting styles. Melding them together is the difficult part--to move from a Kendo style to, say, Rapier requires a complete change in body and feet movement, and this must look effortless. The style moves seamlessly between the different disciplines, but remains technically correct throughout. It's unlike any other style of fighting and I think it's beautiful to watch."
In addition to developing the character's fighting styles, Gillard trained the actors to bring them to life, in a deliberate effort to avoid using stunt doubles. He is full of praise for everyone's efforts on the movies, especially those of his leading Jedi.
"Ewan McGregor can just do anything," he notes. "I've known Ewan for years and whatever you give him to do, he can do it. I would have thought that no one could have become better than Ewan--after Phantom and Attack of the Clones, he just looked like the best. But Hayden learned fast and is now leagues ahead of everybody. He is terrifying!"
Gillard's work on the films' lightsaber duels doesn't end with the principal photography, though. He is heavily involved in the development of the fighting styles employed by the movies' computer-generated character, including Jedi Master Yoda.
"I worked with Rob Coleman and John Knoll at ILM on the Yoda stuff in Clones," he explains. "I think we did alright with it. It came up very quickly, because originally the fight between Anakin and Dooku was going to be much longer and we shot a much longer sequence, but that was dropped for the Yoda fight. At the time I thought, 'Oh no, it's going to look so bad....', but I was quite impressed when I saw it. I think if I had been six or seven years old, I would have been blown away. And it won Best Fight at the MTV Awards!"
Reflecting on the first two Star Wars prequels, Gillard is aware that neither The Phantom Menace nor Attack of the Clones seem to have captured cinemagoers' imagination in quite the same ways as the original films. But he maintains that they are worthy additions to the saga, and is proud of his own contributions to them. "The prequels were never going to be what people remembered, because they were a lot younger when they saw the original films. It's a personal thing," he notes. "But I liked both of them, I actually liked Phantom Menace more than Clones--I know who George makes these films for: he makes them for children."
"I'm happy with my work on the films," he continues. "You always want to do more, of course, and you don't have any control over editing and stuff. But I think it's great."
Following the completion of principal photography on Episode III at the end of September, Nick Gillard is aware that the bulk of his work on the Star Wars prequel trilogy--is done. He also feels that his time in a galaxy far, far away will always hold a special place in his heart.
"It's been an amazing experience," he declares. "It can spoil you for other things, because it's not studio backed and Rick McCallum is the best producer in the world--he will give you anything you want, anywhere you want it, any time. When you go to America, you'll walk into a shop and people will know who you are and that you worked on Star Wars, even though you're just the stunt co-ordinator. And, of course, you get offered everything after doing Star Wars without an interview--although when you meet the filmmakers, they don't want to talk about their films, they just want to talk about Star Wars!"
"It's been a fantastic seven years. It was weird getting the job and realising I'd be doing it for seven years, but I'm really happy to have done the three films. I would have hated it if anyone else had done them."
what's the use for "the longest fight scene" if the actors can't move for shit.
New Star Wars: Episode III Spoiler Pics!
Source: ComingSoon!
A great-looking picture of the evil General Grievous from Star Wars: Episode III. He appears on the new cover of Star Wars Insider which also features an article on the villain. Meanwhile, TheForce.net has up a big spoiler picture showing what will happen to Anakin in the third prequel.
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im diggin these new pics
Forgive me, MacGuffin, but I had to delete that second picture...it was way too spoiler-ish for a Star Wars fan like me, and I wanted to save others from seeing it against their will...
...that said, it looked pretty damn cool.
Seriously, those pics are pretty cool
Quote from: GhostboyForgive me, MacGuffin, but I had to delete that second picture...it was way too spoiler-ish for a Star Wars fan like me, and I wanted to save others from seeing it against their will...
...that said, it looked pretty damn cool.
Here's a link then...
http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/image.cgi?Image=/episode3/newspics/anakin_uk_paper.jpg
And another Anakin photo:
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wow, ive never seen mac get locked or deleted or anything of that nature, the picture is all over the internet though and in much better quality than the one mac posted. The pic has a very robocop feel to it.
This is going in a very good direction.
it has to be a downer it has to be a downer it has to be a downer.
that will be good that will be good that will be good.
Harry over at AICN says somone has leaked the new title for episode 3..........hahaha i hope its fake not because its bad but because it dosent fit with any of the other names. swipe below to read
The Creeping Fear
Quote from: Banky
The Creeping Fear
What the fuck?
swipe below to read
well, it's kind of dumb, but it totally fits in that it's just a recycled Flash Gordon title, like Phantom Menace.
Also, is there really anyone that would consider that a spoiler? Is there anyone here that's like "I don't want to know what the title is until it's officially announced!"
Quote from: Bankyswipe below to read
I'd read it. I just couldn't believe they are considering a title like that. I mean... brrrr...
i was offered work as an extra for episode 3 whilst i was backpacking in aussie, but had to turn it down.
Err... I thought the title was defined already... or I least they told it to me
Also that is announced way before the move so I dont understand why it should be a SPOILER
Anyways its in white here below:
Title: THE RISE OF THE EMPIRE
Quote from: Bruce Leei was offered work as an extra for episode 3 whilst i was backpacking in aussie, but had to turn it down.
You could have suggested a mirror fight between Anakin and someone. Star Wars Episode III: Enter the Midiclorians
Quote from: Bruce Leei was offered work as an extra for episode 3 whilst i was backpacking in aussie, but had to turn it down.
Yeah, I'm allergic to blue screens too...
Did they have to go all the way to Australia to use blue screens?
does a peacock need all those feathers?
Quote from: BankyHarry over at AICN says somone has leaked the new title for episode 3
:cry: ...... i really hate that title........it sucks so bad ..it sounds like a name for a geeked out group of laser tag players
I'm sorry but... didnt I just post the real name up there? :?
Quote from: andykI'm sorry but... didnt I just post the real name up there? :?
apparently Lucas changed it
Star Wars: Episode III Gets Release Date!
Lucasfilm has announced when Star Wars: Episode III will be released to theaters in the United States and with a near-simultaneous release around the world, on Thursday, May 19, 2005. In Japan, Episode III will be released in July, the traditional month for Star Wars premieres.
In North America, May has been the traditional release date for Star Wars films since the first movie in 1977. The North American release dates for the previous films in the Star Wars saga are:
Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope - May 25, 1977
Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back - May 21, 1980
Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi - May 25, 1983
Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace - May 19, 1999
Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones - May 16, 2002
1 year to go... these guys are really slow with the post prod... :shock:
That's the way it goes when you shoot five minutes of actual footage, leaving the rest for Dennis Muren and his computer.
dennis muren....god bless him....
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Co-director of the Star Wars prequels...
Spoilers o-hoi:
Loads of Ep3 pics (http://www.hellhamster.frac.dk/new_ep3_pics.html)
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I call shenanigans.
That or sever mental illness.
Hey! I thought Alec Guiness was dead!
That doesn't make sense though anyway, because it's, like, the same guy.
You totally posted that in the wrong thread
That's not a spoiler for Episode III, that's a spoiler for the DVD release.
We've been told he'd be doing shit like that... it's not surprising
Quote from: RegularKarateYou totally posted that in the wrong thread
That's not a spoiler for Episode III, that's a spoiler for the DVD release.
Shit, sorry. Didn't even consider it. Should I just leave the post as it is? Edit it and post in the other thread, or just link from it to this?
You should perform seventy-seven Hail Mary's and repent for your sins!
I did fourteen.
FU WITHNAIL!!!!!!!!
Wow, such hostility :?
Latest "Star Wars 3" Rumours
Source: Dark Horizons
The long-awaited final Star Wars blockbuster will be called Birth Of The Empire, movie insiders have revealed to Brtish tabloid The Sun and the highlight of the space epic will be a thrilling lightsabre clash between Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor) and Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) while surfing on lava.
The Hollywood source said: "Anakin and Obi-Wan fight on platforms on the lava. They control these like surfboards". Meanwhile in regards to the title, the source added: "There's going to be a big announcement soon. They've tried lots of titles but the most popular is Birth Of The Empire."
Quote from: themodernage02"Anakin and Obi-Wan fight on platforms on the lava. They control these like surfboards"
:roll:
And there's going to be another assembly line battle, isn't there?
A question for Star Wars fans:
seeing how I only sorta like the originals, I was wondering how the mega-fans felt about all this. Is this series finally and forever ruined for you, or are you still holding out hope that this new one is gonna somehow reedem everything?
Obviously, the prequels are abortions... but it's kind of fun to follow the universe anyway... what a lot of people ignore is that the story is still fun to pay attention too... it's kind of like a soap opera.
Quote from: SoNowThenA question for Star Wars fans:
seeing how I only sorta like the originals, I was wondering how the mega-fans felt about all this. Is this series finally and forever ruined for you, or are you still holding out hope that this new one is gonna somehow reedem everything?
It isn't ruined, and I'm still holding out hope that the last one will be good -- and I'm fairly certain that I'll enjoy it a great deal, and possibly even love it immensely, as I did the last one for the first month or so that it was out (see the ridiculously hyperbolic review on my website). Just seeing the Star Wars logo on the big screen, with that music, releases some euphoric endorphin in my brain.
That said, there are certainly things that are beyond redemption, and as a Star Wars fan, I just have to either live with them or give up on the whole thing. It's too ingrained in who I am for me to choose the latter, so I'll just deal with the problems, just like I'll deal with stupid motherfucking alterations to the originals when I buy them on DVD this fall.
Somewhere in some other thread a few months back, Godardian said something that amounted to: filmmakers who look to George Lucas as inspiration will not make good movies (forgive me, Godardian, if I'm misconstruing your original words). I know exactly where he's coming from, and of course I understand all of the 'evil' that 'Star Wars' brought into the world of cinema; Lucas himself, certainly, is no model of passionate filmmaking worth aspiring to (although he certainly had the potential to be). But the original trilogy itself -- aside from being (in my opinion, particularly regarding the first two episodes) a masterpiece of pop art, technology and stortyelling -- set the undiminishable fires in my imagination that led me to, eventually, where I am today. And so I still credit George Lucas for getting me into filmmaking.
Interestingly, the producer of the new trilogy, Rick McCallum, credits Ingmar Bergman as his inspiration. I wonder what he really, deep down inside, thinks of them. Part of the answer to that query can be found in the excellent behind the scenes doc on the Phantom Menace DVD, in which not only he but Lucas and everyone else in the room looks rather aghast after the first screening of the Episode 1 rough cut.
This post has ended up being a lot longer than I meant it to be.
Just as an addition, Lucas should be given credit for American Graffiti as well. I'll always respect him for that movie.
Ghostboy and RK took the words straight out of my mouth. To me the prequels, though lightyears from the originals, do actually hold up, even if it's just the nostalgia, and hearing that music, and seeing that opening scroll. I admit I even find the story interesting, and had the dialogue just been better scripted, and the films less statically directed, they'd definitely be up there with the originals.
I just like the lightsaber fighting so those parts are cool, but surfboards on lava? Come on!
I betting (hoping) the surfboards detail is an exaggeration.
Episode III: Surf's Up
Does Lucas have anything planned for after Star Wars? I mean besides messing around with them later.
yes. episodes 7, 8, and 9.
Quote from: bonanzatazyes. episodes 7, 8, and 9.
I thought he said he was never planning on doing those.
Quote from: LostEraserQuote from: bonanzatazyes. episodes 7, 8, and 9.
I thought he said he was never planning on doing those.
This is an exact quote from Lucas:
"If I was a droid like C3PO, I would live to make episodes 10, 11, 12 and all the way to 20. Future Star Wars fanatics would eat it up like cherry pie. Because I'm George Lucas and they're not."
Quote from: GhostboyInterestingly, the producer of the new trilogy, Rick McCallum, credits Ingmar Bergman as his inspiration.
How can the new trilogy in any way be seen as inspired from Bergman? Even for any dissatisfaction he may have in the new trilogy, Star Wars is nowhere near the aim of Bergman and as a producer, he has quite a lot of pull to shape trilogy. I think thats just a popular thing to say.
Birth of the Empire? What, Jedis running around in white robes with hoods?
George Lucas Talks Star Wars: Episode III Title
Source: USA Today Tuesday, June 15, 2004
USA Today caught up with George Lucas who said the Star Wars: Episode III title won't be officially announced until November, when the first trailer hits threaters.
But he conceded that fans on websites already have guessed correctly. The newspaper threw a couple of rumored titles at him: Rise of the Empire? "No, that's not it," Lucas said. How about Revenge of the Sith?
With that, Lucas smiled knowingly, backed away and teased, "That's a possibility. Lots of titles out there."
Thanks to TheForce.net for the alert.
What a wank.
Wait, WTF am I doing in a Star Wars thread anyway?
*goes off to read more about how Stefen got pummeled and Sleuth just can't seem to keep his room clean* "Now that's good television Interweb."
"Revenge of the Sith"?
My, oh my...
Why not "Anakin Almighty"?
Quote from: ElPandaRoyalWhy not "Anakin Almighty"?
Don't go giving George ideas like that!
Quote from: themodernage02With that, Lucas smiled knowingly, backed away and teased, "That's a possibility. Lots of titles out there."
I hate how he's acting so smug about this. It's going to be another ridiculous title
Quote from: WithnailQuote from: ElPandaRoyalWhy not "Anakin Almighty"?
Don't go giving George ideas like that!
I'd pay to see a movie titled like that. If only for the mytical STAR WARS main titles with a subtitle like that :lol:
Well, I, for one, am drooling...
Gary Oldman in Talks for Star Wars: Episode III
Source: Douglas Management Group, The Leaky Cauldron Tuesday, June 22, 2004
Gary Oldman, who can currently be seen in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, is in negotiations to perform a character voice in Star Wars: Episode III, according to his reprentatives at the Douglas Management Group. Which character's voice he may perform is not revealed, yet a good guess would be that of General Grievous, the new villain of the final prequel.
Producer Rick McCallum previously said that "in 'Attack of the Clones', we saw that former Jedi Count Dooku was the political leader behind the Separatists movement and instigator of the Clone Wars. In 'Episode III', we'll meet General Grievous, the military leader of all the Separatist armies. He's part alien and part robot. Grievous is a master strategist and the greatest hand-to-hand Jedi killer the galaxy has ever known."
Oldman also stars in Paramount's upcoming The Longest Yard remake with Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, and Burt Reynolds. "Episode III" hits theaters on May 19.
why the fuck has gary oldman " one of the finest actors of our time" fallen to working on this shit. bottom of the line EP I&II arent worth a damn -- im guessing III will not be either. and now hes doing a sandler peice of dump. somebody get this guy some rolls that are worth a damn. he may be money hungry -- which would make sense to supply his liqour supply, if thats the case, then my arguement is somewhat invalidated -- but that doesnt make it right.
I'm a Star Wars fan, but I agree with you completely. This is totally beneath him (and, while I've only seen stills of this new villain, he looks sorta lame). He's lamented this himself, actually...and said that he's just trying to keep working while getting another directorial effort off the ground. Nil By Mouth was his explanation for Lost In Space and Quest For Camelot.
Quote from: GhostboyNil By Mouth was his explanation for Lost In Space and Quest For Camelot.
and H. Pot, so i'm told.
how was nil by mouth? heard many good things...
Quote from: cowboykurtishow was nil by mouth? heard many good things...
.....phucking killer .....it s raw man....you need to see it ASAP....
plus the soundtrack is wicked stuff...
and props have to go out to the makeup department.....
Quote from: NEON MERCURYand props have to go out to the makeup department.....
what about the props department?
Quote from: PubrickQuote from: NEON MERCURYand props have to go out to the makeup department.....
what about the props department?
Makeup will go out to the props department.
George Lucas can suck my nutsack.
He should have let somebody else direct his work like he did with 5 & 6.
Quote from: MyxomatosisGeorge Lucas can suck my nutsack.
He should have let somebody else direct his work like he did with 5 & 6.
Why? So he can re-tool it and try to get co-director credit like he's doing with 5 & 6? I still say that, above all, Empire and Jedi are better films because of the screenplays. Or should I say, because of Lawrence Kasdan. Lucas would have been smart to grab him to write the prequels. Sure, a new director or DP might have been able to make better use of the bluescreen than Lucas has, but it's the damn dialogue that hurts the prequels the most.
Quote from: hacksparrowLucas would have been smart to grab him to write the prequels.
He tried; Kasdan said no. I think he tried to get Carrie Fisher, too. But at least he's got Tom Stoppard on this last one, though. That's a good sign.
Stoppard?! No shit, never heard. Staying spoiler-free for Episode III has put me out of touch with Star Wars news. Are you shure, he isn't credited at imdb? At one point, early in the game, Frank Darabont was supposedly writing Ep I. Lucas went on to write two drafts of the script himself, and asked Darabont to comment on the Episode I second draft, who then told him not to change a word.
stoppard needs the work.
Quote from: Pubrickstoppard needs the work.
His work on Empire of the Sun is underrated, IMHO. Stoppard could probably knock off a Star Wars flick in his sleep. I hope that rumor is true.
Revenge Of The Sith is the new title. Going back to the basics. Nice symmetry with the whole sextet. I'm not hyped up. Not hyped up at all.
I second that
I donno. I can't abandon all hope just yet. How bad can it possibly be? This third portion of the trilogy is perhaps the darkest of all six so far. How much can George Lucas possibly pander to teenagers? This will be the best of the prequels.
Will it be a good film?
We'll find out next year.
:-D
Quote from: GhostboyRevenge Of The Sith is the new title. Going back to the basics. Nice symmetry with the whole sextet.
Remember when the original was supposed to be called Revenge Of The Jedi? Even some posters leaked out with that title. Until Lucas changed it to Return, saying that Jedis don't seek revenge. The Sith apparently do.
Yeah, my aunt and uncle have one of the original one-sheets that says Revenge on it. I'm hoping they bequeath it to me in their will.
By the way, in case there was any confusion about it, I am in fact quite hyped. Just seeing the text in that red wrap-around box, Jedi style, got my inner fanboy geeking out.
new pics (spoilers) (http://community.spacecast.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002495;p=)
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that's a lot of blue screen
those scenes will have blue screens because lucas and co were busy with the thx 1138 and ol trilogy dvd's.
I turn into a fucking kid again everytime I get updates like these.
Lucas To Make 'Star Wars' Sequels?
Star Wars creator George Lucas could be poised to make three sequels to the original space opera trilogy, according to insiders at Lucasfilm. According to fan site Theforce.Net, employees at Lucas's company Industrial Light And Magic (ILM) have all been made to sign non-disclosure agreements to promise not to talk about the possibility of episode's seven, eight and nine being made. Now industry insiders are predicting the American Graffiti director will make the follow-ups, which pick up where 1983's Return Of The Jedi left off, despite insisting he would never be lured into filming them. A posting on the site says, "You didn't hear this from me, but you might be curious as to why everyone at ILM just signed NDA's saying that they will not discuss Star Wars episodes 7, 8, or 9. Since they're not being made, why the NDA's? Of course, since when has Lucas been consistent?"
hopefully lucas dies before those get off the ground. and is it true that the original trilogy is being released on dvd only as the special editions and not the original cuts?
Quote from: ddiggler6280is it true that the original trilogy is being released on dvd only as the special editions and not the original cuts?
Yes. Welcome to the wonderful world of redirect:
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=411
ah yes. thanks.
well thank god i still have the old trilogy on vhs. looks like that might be the definitive version.
Episode III Teaser to Debut on Hyperspace
Source: StarWars.com October 21, 2004
Lucasfilm reports that the anticipated teaser trailer for Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith will make its theaterical debut with Pixar's The Incredibles in the U.S. and Canada on November 5.
However, members of StarWars.com Hyperspace can see it before then as the full teaser will make its world-wide debut on the site the early afternoon (U.S.) of November 4. This exclusive member-only preview will be in high-quality QuickTime format.
Subscribers to AOL will also be able to see the trailer in streaming video formats starting November 4, and look for the trailer on TV the evening of November 4.
The public debut of the teaser trailer will happen on November 8th at StarWars.com.
'Star Wars' Spoilers Hit the Web
A flood of detailed Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith "spoilers" has hit Internet chat sites following screenings of a rough-cut version of the film. (Typical: "Does Yoda really fart in the movie?" "In the rough cut, he did." "Will we see Yoda use his lightsaber any time beside the fight with Sidious?" "Heck, yes. Yoda even cuts someone's head off!") Those who have seen the rough-cut have been unanimously enthusiastic about it. The film is scheduled to be released on May 19, 2005.
Just to avoid a flurry of naysayers...while I haven't read all the spoilerific details, the Yoda farting thing is apparently just a gag ILM threw into the rough cut to freak people out.
Hehe, yeah, sadly, lowering expectations may be the way to go. That said, I'll probably stay home sick on the 4th as the trailer debuts. Last time around, I'll be praying.
http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2005/fox/episodeIII/teaserposter.html
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Now how awkward is that?
He's gotta stop standing over those giant fans...
Well, I'm not exactly a giant, but as a fan, he can stand over me anytime :wink:
Really interesting poster.
Yeah, good poster. I'll avoid excessive hyperbole and end this post now.
the awkwardness is strong in this etc..
what's with that tiny human head growing out of darth vader's neck?
That is stupid and I don't like it. It looks like a trading card or something. Bogus.
When I first saw it, I thought it was a 'fanboy' poster. It lacks the 'professional' look of a Drew Struzan-type work. Darth looks like Jabba.
According to DigitalBits, the Star Wars: Episode III trailer is going to be shown on Access Hollywood tomorrow night, in addition to being available on Star Wars.com (only to paying Hyperspace members of course). It will also be in theaters this weekend with The Incredibles. And you can reasonably expect that ripped copies of it will be available to download everywhere around the Net soon enough.
Star Wars fans will be jumping up and down to hear that. :multi:
Just saw it! Not as great as I'd hoped, but it got my blood pumping anyway.
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Trailer here. (http://www.generationxreviews.com/gxr/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=224)
* teaser spoilers *
Is Darth completely CG?
I wasn't going to see this until I saw the huge Wookiee army. That completely rekindled my childhood geek-love for Star Wars.
Nope, he's not CG at all. Funny how fake even the real stuff looks...
That really didn't get me excited the way the Episode 1 and II trailers did. But the wookies were totally awesome -- I mean seriously, an army of wookies is so cool -- and it was great to see the Tantiv IV occupied once more by the droids.
Cool man, this movie's gonna be like dark, that's my favourite genre
That trailer wasnt very good. But the episode 1 and 2 teasers were AWESOME! And those movies sucked, so maybe since episode 3's trailer isnt very good the movie will be okay.
I was skeptical about this specific trilogy when I first heard about it, and I was kinda let down by Episodes 1 and 2 but after the trailer I am really looking forward to it even though I was pretty intrigued already about Episode 3, so count me in.
i'm going to wait till tomorrow to watch it in the theatre for the first time because watching these damn things on your computer for the first time can really take the 'event' ness out of it and lessen the impact. it is taking quite a bit of willpower to stay away though.
Okay, DEFINITELY wait to see it on the big screen, which I just saw it on along with The Incredibles. It certainly has more impact and the CGI looks better too (at least better than the whatever-res trailer Mac linked to above). The first half is awesome, but it's all stuff we've seen before. The trailer still isn't very good overall --- the second half is badly cut -- just an assortment of images that are supposed to be cool -- and the sound mixing is incredibly sloppy. And the shot of Darth just isn't that great. I hope it's not like that in the movie. Anyway, I still think Episode III will kick ass and subscribe to Stephen's theory above.
looks too colorful
I hope the dialogue is average at least. The other films had very very annoying speeches.
Yoda should stay still... the badass ninja Yoda thing was mildly fun in Clones, but it died before the second viewing.
What I DO like in the prequels (trying to look on the bright side) is the design. The way they have brought the look of Phantom Menace (shiny metal, bright colors, sleek shapes) to the look of New Hope (busted) is great and from the trailer, it's evident that the flow of the design from Ep. One to Ep. Four is smooth. It makes sense.
I want them to fill in all the plot holes with this one... C3PO will have to lose his memory.
I'm not really worrying. My hopes are severly lowered, or at least not anywhere near the levels they reached before Ep. I and II, so I'm almost guaranteed (fuck, that right there, is a sign of them beginning to rise...) Right now, though, I keep thinking the only thing that trailer gave me was a tease of bad CGI. Ghostboy said it looked better on the bigscreen, and I hope so, just wish we'd gotten a longer teaser with dialogue and more impressing visuals, instead of this. That look on Portman's face as she turns, though, is enough to at least ensure that her acting has improved last time around.
as i understand it, this is just a teaser (the best kind of trailers). so i wouldn't worry.. u'll get ur long, boring, spoilerful trailer eventually.
Remember the Episode I teaser? It was so mysterious. There wasn't half the spoilage.
The episode 1 teaser was awesome. I was 14 when I saw it and it was great. I was dating this girl and living at her house and dragged her to see the waterboy so we could see it on the big screen. It was so much better than the real trailer. Teasers rule.
well i dont remember the episode one teaser but i definitely remember pooping my pants when the episode two teaser played before monsters inc. some years back...everybody cheered when it ended. i hold the teasers in higher regard than the films themselves. the prequels, that is.
I don't want spoilage. I ruined the virgin-viewings of the other two prequels that way. I just want some snippets of dialogue, screenshots that don't contain bad CG, and chill inducing music.
then steer clear a dis one
What the fuck is up with the horrible ending of the music? Is it just the quality of that teaser or is it that bad? Sounds like the orchestra dropped their instruments...
And fuck the graphics look like shit...again, maybe the trailer, but I saw several references in there: Star Craft, Final Fantasy VII, Sky Captain....I almost have to think Lucas wanted to rip off some of those cut-scenes.
Quote from: Gamblor geht weg.And fuck the graphics look like shit...again, maybe the trailer, but I saw several references in there: Star Craft, Final Fantasy VII, Sky Captain....I almost have to think Lucas wanted to rip off some of those cut-scenes.
I doubt they're deliberate references...
Lucas: Hey Bob, put a little more Star Craft into that, would you?
Bob: Yes, sir.
You only noticed similarities with all those things because you're a geek. :wink: I don't think anybody else really saw it.
I was being sarcastic, sorry, sometimes I trick even myself.
But seriously, has anyone not noticed the horrible music at the very end?
Yup, terrible editing.
Yeah i agree that the editing was not great. The end with the music just cutting out was pretty terrible. Idk about the CGI though. The space battles looked pretty good to me. I don't really know anything about Star Craft, Final Fantasy, or Sky Captain so i can't juge.
I think the prequels aren't that bad. It can't live up to the first 3 but they're fun to watch.
Quote from: Dtm115300I think the prequels aren't that bad. It can't live up to the first 3 but they're fun to watch.
i agree, if i was the same age now as when i saw the original three i probably would like them a lot more. don't get me wrong, the original three are still better but i can't help but think i'm a little to analytical when it comes to the new ones.
mind you, the acting sucks in the original trilogy, so maybe they're even a little over hyped. not including a couple characters. problem is they don't have a han solo character in the new ones. they need a smart-ass/witty character so the audience can identify with the story.
I think it was also a unique vision then, and no one has really done that since. so it's retread to that. we need someone to come up with a universe now. i think it might be impossible to do now. and the matrix doesn't count, that's not unique. just cyber-punk gibson rip offs.
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Quoteproblem is they don't have a han solo character in the new ones. they need a smart-ass/witty character so the audience can identify with the story.
i totally agree. han was definitely who the audience identified with, someone to sit back and remind the characters how full of shit they are. without him the prequels drown in their own self indulgence.
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'Star Wars' Fan Already in Line for 'Episode III'
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Jeff Twieden's New Year's resolution: Be the first in line for "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith."
The Seattle resident has already camped out in front of the city's Cinerama Theater in downtown for the final installment of George Lucas' sci-fi series, which won't open for another 22 weeks, report news sources.
"Episode III" is set two years into the Clone Wars, when Chancellor Palpatine, with the help of his clone army and Sith Warriors, prepares to rid the galaxy of the Jedis in order to declare himself Emperor of the Galactic Empire. The film sets up the mysterious circumstances in which 1977's "Episode IV" begins, namely: Anakin's capitulation to the dark side to become Darth Vader and the birth -- and subsequent separation -- of twins Leia Organa and Luke Skywalker.
Twieden, who was also first in line for 1999's "Episode I: The Phantom Menace," is the most excited about seeing his favorite helmeted villain.
"Vader, baby. Vader," he says. "We all want to see Vader kick some ass."
Although Twieden has settled in with two sleeping bags -- with another on the way -- he's not opposed to moving if it turns out the Cinerama isn't playing "Episode III."
"If it isn't, I'll be more than happy to move to a different theater. It's really about the wait," he says. "'Star Wars' is about independence and freedom, and that's really what this wait is about. That complete and utter independence."
Adds Twieden, "A lot of people say 'Get a life,' stuff like that. But I'm having the time of my life out here."
The final installment of the sci-fi prequel trilogy hits theaters in a galaxy not so far away on Thursday, May 19.
wow. what a geek.
Quote from: Bethiewow. what a [jobless] geek.
I wish I was able to have the time to do that. I wouldn't do that, but I wish I had that amount of free time.
SPOILER
apparently, this is the opening crawl from Ep. III along with the others. source is starwars.com
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They don't actually have a character called General Grievous, do they?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThey don't actually have a character called General Grievous, do they?
Let's hope not.
Mmm hmm hmm hmm....
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The ladies in my avatar seem to enjoy it.
Original Trilogy on its way?
Why is the technology of the prequels more advanced than that of New Hope, Empire and Jedi? Is it proof of CG madness over consistency or is there a plot element to back it up?
That General Grievous almost looks cool.
But I think we all know IG-88 could whip his ass on a bad day.
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Why is the technology of the prequels more advanced than that of New Hope, Empire and Jedi? Is it proof of CG madness over consistency or is there a plot element to back it up?
not to be a prequel bitch, but the technology isn't more advanced.
During the time of the first one and a half prequels, design was very important and everything was built with an artistic touch. Craftsmanship and artistry were at their best. It was a time of peace, and for a good deal of the galaxy, money. Once the empire started to take over, a time of war was approaching and money had to be conserved and weapons and vehicles had to be built with a more cost-efficient, militaristic eye.
You can see this starting to happen towards the end of the second prequel and the new one will surely complete the circle.
from a design standpoint, the prequels are very well thought out and respectable.
From almost every other standpoint, the prequels are shit.
Yoda never should have been anything but a puppet.
I think that single character sums up the Star Wars prequels better than anything else which could be said. Lucas took a loved character with a wonderful look and replaced him with 1000 different computer animated facial features which totally rob him of his essence.
..and that is what Lucas has done to Star Wars for me. He's tried to fix something that isn't broke. I can understand a few technological updates, but these new movies are bogged down with effects and absolutely horrid dialogue. No amount of effects can overcome a shitty script.
I'll still go see Revenge of the Sith on opening day, and that's all George Lucas cares about. I've got a similar theory with the Matrix trilogy. Who believes that had Warner Bros. allowed the Wachowski brothers to make all three films at once (as Peter Jackson did) that they would have been incredible? Give them a budget equal to the cost of the original Matrix x 3 and see what risks they are willing to take with the story.
Quote from: MyxomatosisYoda never should have been anything but a puppet.
But...but...the puppet in
Phantom Menace sucked!
I wonder how he will explane how Obi-wan doesn't remeber the droids in A New Hope.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=162986
Quote from: bigideashttp://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=162986
So, does that mean it's good if it's playing there? Meaning, Lucasfilm has faith in the movie? Or is it all hogwash?
Lucas To "Cameo" in New 'Star Wars' Movie
Star Wars director George Lucas will make a cameo appearance in the upcoming final film in the sci-fi series. Lucas is set to follow in the footsteps of Lord Of The Rings film-maker Peter Jackson by briefly appearing before cameras in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith, playing Baron Papanoida in an opera house scene. Jackson has immortalized himself on screen in all three Lord Of The Rings films, playing hobbit Albert Dreary, an uncredited Rohirrim Warrior and an unnamed Mercenary On Boat in The Fellowship Of The Ring, The Two Towers and Return Of The King, respectively.
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
EXTEMELY SPOILERIFIC photos with plot mentions layed out. DO NOT VIEW if you don't want to know the plotline and fight sequences! (http://yirmumah.net/StarWars3/)
Personally, I didn't much care, but it has made me think that this might come out rather nicely. Of course, pictures and summary lines can't account for terrible lines and bad acting, but who knows...
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Personally, I didn't much care, but it has made me think that this might come out rather nicely. Of course, pictures and summary lines can't account for terrible lines and bad acting, but who knows...
Yeah, it looks like eyecandy. :shock:
yeah that seems to map out the whole movie, at least the good parts.
lucky for me i couldn't care less, we all know how it ends.
i'ma see this for portman and the 70s look the characters hav going.
Episode III Trailer: Online, On Screens and On TV
The much anticipated full release trailer for Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith is on its way. Consisting of over two minutes of new footage from the movie, the full trailer will soon appear on television, on starwars.com and in theaters.
First, on Thursday, March 10th at 9 p.m., be sure to tune in to FOX to catch an all new episode of "The O.C." During the broadcast, FOX will air the Episode III trailer.
The trailer will debut online for members of starwars.com Hyperspace after the broadcast (around 9:00 p.m. Pacific time). Lucas Online is pleased to have partnered with AOL and Moviefone.com to provide starwars.com readers with fast and reliable access to Episode III video content. Subscribers to AOL will be able to see the trailer at this time as well.
To see the Episode III trailer on the big screen, head out to movie theaters starting March 11th, with the debut of the new animated comedy, Robots. Featuring the voices of Ewan McGregor, Halle Berry, Greg Kinnear, Mel Brooks and Robin Williams, Robots is an animated family film from the people who brought you Ice Age, the film that debuted the Episode II trailer in theaters.
Regular visitors to starwars.com will be able to see the trailer online starting on March 14th. A large size version of the trailer will soon be made available only to Hyperspace members after that date.
So make a date to watch "The O.C.", make sure you're subscribed to starwars.com Hyperspace, and head on out to see Robots at a theater near you to make sure you catch as much of the Episode III trailer as you can.
here it is...
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discuss.
holy shit, thomas hayden church!
Correction - Thomas Hayden Christiansen.
It's like one of those Jeopardy categories.
And the poster's fine.
Quote from: MacGuffinSo make a date to watch "The O.C.", make sure you're subscribed to starwars.com Hyperspace, and head on out to see Robots at a theater near you to make sure you catch as much of the Episode III trailer as you can.
My Gawd.
I think the poster's pretty good. Better than I expected. I just hate seeing Yoda like that. And Samuel Jackson's just there cuz he's Samuel Jackson.
This movie is going to suck so bad.
Edit - Will Elaborate Later
Does anyone else think Palpatine looks like Miracle Max on th poster?
Oh, and Yoda just signed an NBA deal.
Yeah, Yoda might as well have a snowboard attached to his feet with a Mountain Dew in his hand.
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Ewan looks like Branagh with a prosthetic nose in the poster.
Quote from: cronopioholy shit, thomas hayden church!
Quote from: RaikusDoes anyone else think Palpatine looks like Miracle Max on th poster?
Oh, and Yoda just signed an NBA deal.
Quote from: hacksparrowEwan looks like Branagh with a prosthetic nose in the poster.
The fate of Star Wars?
Quote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarYeah, Yoda might as well have a snowboard attached to his feet with a Mountain Dew in his hand.
NICE!!
i don't care though. the fighting and lightsabers and whatnot is what makes these movies worth watching in the first place. i have plenty of hope for this one. i want non-stop lightsaber duels and yoda vs.
the emperor will be worth it. why isn't Grievous in the poster? didn't they finish coloring him in yet or what?
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Lucas Says New 'Star Wars' May Rate PG-13
George Lucas says the newest and final installment of his "Star Wars" films may get a PG-13 rating.
"I don't think I would take a 5- or a 6-year-old to this. It's way too strong," Lucas says of "Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith" on CBS' "60 Minutes," to air Sunday (7 p.m. EST). "My feeling is that it will probably be a PG-13, so it will be the first `Star Wars' that's a PG-13."
"Revenge of the Sith," the third prequel to the "Star Wars" trilogy, will open May 19. The movie features Anakin Skywalker's transformation to Darth Vader, a descent based on Lucas' vision of hell, a mythical planet composed entirely of erupting volcanos.
"We're going to watch him make a pact with the devil," says the director. "The film is more dark ... more emotional. It's much more of a tragedy."
Despite critical pans of Episodes I and II, Lucas says in the interview: "Actually, I am very happy. I'm very pleased with the whole thing."
that PG-13 rating may be the best news of all for this movie. MacGuffin, i expect you'll have the links to the trailer before the end of the night, correct?
Quote from: lamasthat PG-13 rating may be the best news of all for this movie. MacGuffin, i expect you'll have the links to the trailer before the end of the night, correct?
Do you need him to get it playing on your computer too helpless little girl?
That was a really good trailer.
Agreed. I think that trailer reinspired me to be excited. But... I don't know. Half of me couldn't help thinking... this kind of sucks. Oh well.
"You were the Chosen One!"
I just got my childhood back. Every single hour of it, crammed into two and a half minutes.
Mac, hook me up with a link to the trailer. I don't watch the OC, it's too faggy.
Just finished watching it for the fourth time. Still really good. Getting better, in fact.
Hayden's arms are still too small for that suit, though. But whatever, it still rules.
Yeah, I'm watching the bootleg. Extremely bad quality and I can't make out all the shots, but I'm still goosebumping like crazy. I can't get over that delivery: "You were the Chosen One!"
Quote from: StefenMac, hook me up with a link to the trailer. I don't watch the OC, it's too faggy.
what's the matter? couldn't find it for yourself pansy? go fuck yourself.
Quote from: lamasQuote from: StefenMac, hook me up with a link to the trailer. I don't watch the OC, it's too faggy.
what's the matter? couldn't find it for yourself pansy? go fuck yourself.
That could've been a mildly funny joke had you not turned it into an unfunny insult.
i thought the insult was the cherry on top. made me laugh.
Quote from: lamasi thought the insult was the cherry on top. made me laugh.
Doesn't take much does it?
You don't want any of this, you didn't get my joke, oh well. Again, you don't wanna step into the insult ring with me. Say something again Renegade.
insult ring?
Quote from: lamasinsult ring?
Stop playing pretend superhero and take that mask off so you can hear. Yeah, insult ring.
i hope it gets better than that.
Quote from: lamasi hope it gets better than that.
Better than that? HAHA. Oh, okay, let me break down calculus, give a short essay on "Of Mice And Men" and explain evolution while 50 cent in da club beat plays? Would that be more your style, or just one of those things? Provoke me.
now that was just sad.
Quote from: lamasnow that was just sad.
No, that was good. Did you go to college?
Quote from: Stefen
No, that was good.
do you honestly think so? if you do, you're more pathetic than i thought when you said "Provoke me."
Well then why don't you actually provoke me? Instead of saying "Oh, that was no good" "Oh, that was terrible" "Oh, I was hoping for better" You're like the Nell of xixax, you don't say shit unless it's not important.
Guys, this is lame. lamas, you've been a complete ass ever since that post on matt35mm's college thread. Your posts are trite, childish insults and your presence here is pretty worthless.
stefen, it's not worth it, are you going to prove that he's a dipshit? Just let him get to that on his own.
Anyhow, back to star wars. I didn't get a chance to see the trailer. Has anyone found a link to it yet?
Quote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollar
Anyhow, back to star wars. I didn't get a chance to see the trailer. Has anyone found a link to it yet?
same question
http://www.movie-list.net/exclusive/star-wars-ep3-trailer-640x360.mov
Tell the geeks to get offline so I can watch the damn thing again! :yabbse-angry:
Quote from: MacGuffinTell the geeks to get offline so I can watch the damn thing again! :yabbse-angry:
Tell the geeks and macguffin to get offline so I can watch it for ONCE. :oops: I'm jonesin man, jonesin.
There's a new Star Wars movie coming out?
Quote from: MacGuffinTell the geeks to get offline so I can watch the damn thing again! :yabbse-angry:
You're busy building a screenshot collection right now! Don't lie..
i'm actually trying to abstain from watching it until i can see it in the theatre, (as i did with the teaser), but if i go see Robots and this damn thing isnt attached i'm going to kill people.
that's probably very wise
:yabbse-undecided:
Quote from: themodernage02i'm actually trying to abstain from watching it until i can see it in the theatre, (as i did with the teaser), but if i go see Robots and this damn thing isnt attached i'm going to kill people.
Not a bad idea..
I just downloaded the .mov file and it's stunning. One of the best trailers I have seen in a long time. It will kick ass in theaters. So, it's showing with Robots then?
Beautiful, nice trailer. I'm psyched.
mod's link is dead.
Trailer here. (http://home.comcast.net/~dab2084/Episode_III_Theatrical_Trailer.mpg)
Quote from: MacGuffinmod's link is dead.
Trailer here. (http://home.comcast.net/~dab2084/Episode_III_Theatrical_Trailer.mpg)
Thanks.
This trailer is amazing. The cgi looks great, it looks almost like a good movie.
Quote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarYeah, Yoda might as well have a snowboard attached to his feet with a Mountain Dew in his hand.
Do the Dew or do not..............there is no try.
Quote from: bigideasQuote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarYeah, Yoda might as well have a snowboard attached to his feet with a Mountain Dew in his hand.
Do the Dew or do not..............there is no try.
Hah, throw a 'dude' in there, and I think we have a tie-in.
*trailer spoilers
for the first time i felt some prequel tragedy when Obi Wan went "you were the chosen one!" and those trade federation guys seem to bleed light. Ian Mcdiarmid will give the most enunciated performance of 2005.
but it's still going to be bad.
also, for all the space experts: is it possible for a ship in space to go down like that as it's being destroyed? would it have to propel itself downwards?
does anyone else think that they made anakin out to be a whiny bitch?
okay, i saw this in the theatre today for the first time and then watched it about 5 times online just now. i'm glad i waited to see it in the theatre, because words cant describe the feeling. i guess the closest thing would be an honest to god geekgasm. a feeling of chills, then a smile and then welling up with tears. and i am not exaggerating. not only that but my girlfriend had the same experience and when i came home and talked to my brother about it, he described the same thing. this was better than i could ever imagine it being. i think it was more powerful than even the trailers for episodes I or II. i guess if you dont like this i feel sorry for you because as RK said to GT in the SOTD thread, something about your movie taste is just 'missing'. all the cynicism was just wiped away and i was overcome with the feeling i have long for about why i love movies. and it occured to me that this may be the last event of this size in my lifetime. i formally apologize to lucas for placing this as number 3 behind batman and king kong as my more anticipated movies of the year, i think after watching this it holds number one by a longshot. it probably wont be near as good as it looks, but goddamnit if it doesnt look like the best movie on earth. only 2 more months...
Quote from: El Duderinodoes anyone else think that they made anakin out to be a whiny bitch?
Wouldn't you be if Tuskens killed your mother?
Quote from: picolas*trailer spoilers
for the first time i felt some prequel tragedy when Obi Wan went "you were the chosen one!" and those trade federation guys seem to bleed light. Ian Mcdiarmid will give the most enunciated performance of 2005.
but it's still going to be bad.
haha yeah the chancellor talks like he's in eyes wide shut.
there's this part in the trailer where the chancellor is arrested, and he goes "are u threatening me?" after they hav told him "u are under arrest". i hope that's just a badly cut trailer moment where they left a lot of dialogue out, otherwise the script may be just as bad as the other prequels. telling sumone they are under arrest is not a threat, a threat is "ur gonna be arrested if u dont stop".. anyway, it just doesn't make sense.
overall, i felt the hype, it works very well as that. and it made me think of the basic brilliance of the story. it really is a truly fantastic story, the chosen one turns evil, that's the best story.
He should have gone with what worked for him in Episodes 5 & 6..
Lucas comes up with the story and somebody else writes the screenplay and directs it.
anyone else think Lucas holes himself up in his Skywalker Ranch and records himself playing with Star Wars figures to get dialogue ideas?
I'm getting pissed that I still haven't been able to see this trailer yet. I've been trying but I can't figure out how. Every link I find is either dead or times out after a minute of trying to download.
Guess I had to find it my damn self: Here (http://www.royalestarr.com/vids/star-wars-ep3-trailer-hd-640.mov).
I'm a bit underwhelmed after all the hype, but it's a pretty good trailer.
Quote from: matt35mmGuess I had to find it my damn self: Here (http://www.royalestarr.com/vids/star-wars-ep3-trailer-hd-640.mov).
I'm a bit underwhelmed after all the hype, but it's a pretty good trailer.
As far as big box office giants go, it's one of the coolest trailers I've seen..
Trailer here. (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/lucasfilm/hyperspace/rednalob_480_dl.mov)
And this link should remain.
Quote from: Pubrickthere's this part in the trailer where the chancellor is arrested, and he goes "are u threatening me?" after they hav told him "u are under arrest". i hope that's just a badly cut trailer moment where they left a lot of dialogue out, otherwise the script may be just as bad as the other prequels.
i'm pretty sure that's the way it actually happens based on Lucas, and how Mcdiarmid compensates for the embarassing illogic by moving only his mouth.
there must be a good excuse for a battle in the sea.
Sony Music has announced that the soundtrack CD for Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith will street on 5/3. The CD will include a bonus DVD-Video disc that will feature a 70-minute presentation of some 16 newly-created music videos of composer John Williams' signature themes from all 6 Star Wars films (set to footage from the films) that takes viewers chronologically through the entire saga. Each will be introduced by actor Ian McDiarmid (Senator Palpatine) and will feature the music along with dialogue and sound effects excerpts in full Dolby Digital 5.1 surround. The package will also include a booklet with liner notes by George Lucas and a poster.
Lucas Calls New 'Star Wars' a Titanic Tearjerker
Director George Lucas had a message for fans as he previewed a glimpse of the final tale in the billion dollar "Star Wars" film franchise: leave the lightsabers at home, but don't forget the tissues.
"It's not like the first one. It's more emotional," said the director of space adventure, "Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith," which arrives in theaters May 19.
"I describe it as a 'Titanic' in space. It's a real tearjerker, and it will be received in a way that none of us can expect," he told theater owners at the ShoWest convention.
ShoWest is a major gathering of movie theater owners in the United States and a launch pad for Hollywood's summer movies.
Film studio Twentieth Century Fox teased a packed house here with the first six minutes of "Revenge of the Sith," marking the first time the scenes had been shown to audiences.
Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) and master Obi-Wan Kenobe (Ewan McGregor) wage a furious fight against their adversaries in a battle of deadly spaceships. In this episode, Skywalker becomes the notorious Darth Vader.
Lucas and the promotional clip did not divulge much about the "tearjerker" love story. But Senator Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman), who married Skywalker in a secret ceremony witnessed in the last movie, plays a key role.
If Lucas's comparison to "Titanic" is to be believed, there must be heartbreak in "Revenge of the Sith" because 1997's tale of the doomed ocean liner, "Titanic," stirred audiences with its tale of an ill-fated affair between characters played by Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet.
Love can work wonders with movie audiences. "Titanic" is the highest grossing movie of all time with more than $1.8 billion in worldwide ticket sales, surpassing No. 2 "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" with $1.1 billion.
The "Star Wars" films are no box office losers, either, but there hasn't been much romance in them -- not yet, anyway.
The adventures began with 1977's "Star Wars" and have sold nearly $3.4 billion worth of tickets at global box offices.
"jaws was never my scene, and i don't like star wars"
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I picked up that Clone Wards DVD today. It was alright, but I really don't get what all the buzz was about, with people saying this was Star Wars done right and all. It was just a lot of cool action scenes, some great, some merely decent, but overall it was nothing that wasn't already done just as well, if not better, in the brilliant last forty five minutes of Episode II. The best part, for me, was the footage of the space battle in Episode III.
I liked them enough that I do want to see the new ones that are airing right now, though. And it's probably better in little five minute excerpts anyway, rather than one long feature.
Spielberg Worked On Revenge of the Sith
Source: StarWars.Com March 31, 2005
In an interview on StarWars.Com with J. W. Rinzler, author of The Making of Revenge of the Sith, he revealed an interesting bit of trivia for Star Wars fans:
Steven Spielberg was involved in some of the animatic sequences in the film. Can you tell us about that?
As George explains in the book, he gave Spielberg a few scenes to play with at the animatics stage: a bit of the Mustafar duel, and Yoda's duel with the Emperor, along with a couple of others. How much of Spielberg's contribution made it to the final film, only Lucas or Spielberg could say, particularly as George revised and reinvented every scene in the film so extensively in editorial.
so it's not shite after all?
Quote from: mogwaiso it's not shite after all?
Quote from: themodernage02Spielberg Worked On Revenge of the Sith
I think you answered your own question.
yeah, like this will be EXTRA EXTRA good now.
that's all well and good, but ur ignoring the most important sentence in the whole thing..
Quote from: themodernage02How much of Spielberg's contribution made it to the final film, only Lucas or Spielberg could say, particularly as George revised and reinvented every scene in the film so extensively in editorial.
Quote from: GhostboyI picked up that Clone Wards DVD today. It was alright, but I really don't get what all the buzz was about, with people saying this was Star Wars done right and all. It was just a lot of cool action scenes, some great, some merely decent, but overall it was nothing that wasn't already done just as well, if not better, in the brilliant last forty five minutes of Episode II. The best part, for me, was the footage of the space battle in Episode III.
I liked them enough that I do want to see the new ones that are airing right now, though. And it's probably better in little five minute excerpts anyway, rather than one long feature.
i watched both series today after having not seen ANY of either previously, and i have to agree. the animation was really well done (especially for tv) and most of the character designs were great but it was really hard to watch the initial 3 minute episodes in a one hour sitting because they are like 90% action with very little story or dialogue going on. so there was very little to grab onto, especially since the episodes didnt really seem to hinge on each other for the most part. i enjoyed the second set much more because they were able to tell more story (and it directly ties into the next film more) and it was pretty good. i'll be interested to see how they turn this into a regular series though.
They're going to have another factory assembly line battle scene, aren't they?
dont bring your preconcieved expectations into this. :elitist:
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Quote from: themodernage02dont bring your preconcieved expectations into this. :elitist:
I'm not the one with the collagatar.
Quote from: MacGuffinTV Spot #1 "Tragedy" here. (http://progressive.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/lucasfilm/hyperspace/epiii_tragedy_480_dl.mov)
"Anakin, you're breaking my heart!"
'Tis already one laughable line.
Not that I really care--I'll still enjoy the movie, probably.
I went to Toys R Us with a good friend of mine who's visiting from Argentina. He wanted to buy some stuff for his kids.
I ended up buying a talking-Yoda for my office. I put it on my desk. Its so awsome, it moves the eyes, ears and mouth when it talks... and has like 200 different phrases and tells stories... its so cool
Quote from: andykalI went to Toys R Us with a good friend of mine who's visiting from Argentina. He wanted to buy some stuff for his kids.
I ended up buying a talking-Yoda for my office. I put it on my desk. Its so awsome, it moves the eyes, ears and mouth when it talks... and has like 200 different phrases and tells stories... its so cool
do you also like sports dog movies?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: themodernage02dont bring your preconcieved expectations into this. :elitist:
I'm not the one with the collagatar.
also known as the spoilatar.
'Star Wars' Fans Line Up at Wrong Theater
"Star Wars" fans will have to find the right theater before they can leave for the dark side. Seven weeks before its release, "Star Wars" fanatics started lining up outside Grauman's Chinese Theater for the sixth installment of the popular George Lucas movie series. The vigil began Saturday.
But there's a problem: "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith" won't be showing at the Hollywood landmark when the movie is released May 19. Twentieth Century Fox opted instead to open the film a mile southeast at the ArcLight theater.
Still, the resolute "Star Wars" die-hards aren't moving on. Beneath a makeshift awning, 11 people refused to relinquish their spots in line.
"We've heard all this before," fan Sarah Sprague said, noting there were plenty of rumors in 1999 and 2002 that previous "Star Wars" movies weren't opening at the Chinese Theater. The rumors were false and the films were shown at the Chinese.
Fox and the ArcLight haven't completed their "Star Wars" deal, but executives on both sides told Daily Variety "Revenge of the Sith" will play at the ArcLight and not the Chinese.
Yet Sprague was adamant the line wouldn't be moving to the ArcLight.
"This is still the epicenter for 'Star Wars' fans. For the big iconic pictures of the 1970s, people lining up were here. They weren't at the Cinerama Dome (at the ArcLight)," Sprague said.
Lucas' final "Star Wars" chapter spells out the last dark steps the once goodhearted young Anakin Skywalker takes to become the villain Darth Vader.
Quote from: MacGuffin
Still, the resolute "Star Wars" die-hards aren't moving on. Beneath a makeshift awning, 11 people refused to relinquish their spots in line.
i'm driving by Grauman's tomorrow to laugh at those people.
a more detailed (and thus funnier) article: (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117920656?categoryid=1236&cs=1&s=h&p=0)
'Star Wars' fans stew in queue
If a movie isn't playing at a theater, will its fans still line up outside? For "Star Wars" fans, the answer is a befuddling yes.
Saturday, 46 days before "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith" opens on May 19, the trilogy's enthusiasts began their vigil outside Grauman's Chinese Theater.
Problem is 20th Century Fox doesn't plan to open the film at the Chinese, opting instead for the ArcLight a few blocks east.
"Star Wars" or no, the diehards are resolute about keeping their line on Hollywood Boulevard.
Underneath a make-shift awning yesterday afternoon, 11 people were in line doing what appeared to be homework, pecking at laptops and talking to members of the media.
"We've heard all this before," said Sarah Sprague, one of the designated spokesmen for the group. In 1999 and 2002, there were plenty of rumors (ultimately false) that the previous two pics weren't going to open at the Chinese.
This year the rumors seem to be true. Fox and the ArcLight haven't finalized their "Star Wars" deal, but execs on both sides say they expect "Revenge of the Sith" to play the ArcLight and not the Chinese.
A media-savvy bunch, those waiting at the Chinese hope press interest in covering (and most likely mocking) them would persuade George LucasGeorge Lucas and Fox to move the booking.
And Sprague was adamant the line isn't moving to the ArcLight. "This is still the epicenter for 'Star Wars' fans. For the big iconic pictures of the 1970s, people lining up were here. They weren't at the Cinerama Dome."
Their other reason is that it'd be more difficult to raise money for their charity Starlight Starbright if they weren't on Hollywood. However, cops won't let fans collect donations from passersby; instead, they pass out pamphlets with a Web site address.
"Even if it's not here, we'll just go see it somewhere else. We're not doing this just for the movie." Besides, she added, "What's the point of lining up at the ArcLight if someone is going to go online and get the best seat in the house?"
But wouldn't that still make more sense than spending a month outside a theater that isn't playing the movie?
"Lining up for anything, what part of that makes any sense?" she responded philosophically.
As theaters normally do, the ArcLight is likely to ask Fox that it be the only theater playing "Revenge of the Sith" in the immediate area. And even if it doesn't, Paramount confirmed it will open "The Longest Yard" at the Chinese the week after "Revenge," which means Fox won't want to book the theater for just one week. (Paramount partly owns Mann Theaters.)
The kerfuffle has inspired some soul-searching among the fans, and they have discovered that standing in a "Star Wars" line is actually more important than seeing a "Star Wars" film.
"The telling thing is -- for me, at least -- if the film is not playing at the Chinese ... I have zero desire to see it at all," a fan who calls himself Obi Geewhyen posted on the message board at Liningup.net. "I'm in it for the lineup only and don't give a darn about the conclusion of this lackluster, so-called 'Star Wars' series."
Hope springs eternal, Sprague said. After the last two "Star Wars" films, "We're all a little beaten down," she said. "But this one could be it!"
Quote from: pete"Lining up for anything, what part of that makes any sense?" she responded philosophically.
indeed. haha. indeed. :yabbse-thumbup:
QuoteHope springs eternal, Sprague said. After the last two "Star Wars" films, "We're all a little beaten down," she said. "But this one could be it!"
Hoping against hope..
Final 'Star Wars' Episode Is Reportedly Rated PG-13
Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith, starring Hayden Christensen, Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman, has become the first film in the franchise to be given a PG-13 rating by the Motion Picture Association of America's Classification and Ratings Administration, several websites reported Saturday, citing sources with the MPAA. According to the reports, the film received a PG-13 rather than the usual PG for the other Star Wars episodes because of "sci-fi violence and some intense images." The film is set for release on Thursday, May 19.
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Wookiees and Cut Scenes
He's Chewbacca, but not as you know him.
Did you know that Wookiees change in color as they grow older? (Okay, so some of you hardcore Star Wars know-it-alls probably did know that!) The topic came up in a Sci Fi Wire interview with Peter Mayhew, the tall, lanky actor who is reprising his role as the furry alien in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. Mayhew explained that a new Chewbacca costume had to be designed for him, because as a much younger Wookiee, his fur is lighter in color. As Mayhew put it, "he's like a puppy that is one color and changes as he gets older."
Once in the suit, however, it felt just like old times again. "...Once I get the costume on, that character comes out. There are no two ways about it. Chewie is one of those characters that never said a line throughout the whole of the three movies, and this one just finishes that off nicely. Chewie is a rock star anyway. He's one of those characters that you either love him or hate him, and most people love him."
And in other news, even though Revenge of the Sith isn't out for more than another month, there's already a list of scenes that were written and even filmed for the movie but eliminated during the editing process. The information is in the new book The Making of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and the relevant bits are online at TheForce.net.
The scenes mentioned include some spoilers, so don't keep reading unless you don't mind a few!
Some of the more interesting scenes listed include:
• General Grievous killing Shaak Ti, the Jedi who fought him so bravely in Clone Wars
• Yoda, Obi-Wan and Mace discussing the Dark Side in Yoda's quarters.
• Mace discussing with Yoda his plans to arrest Chancellor Palpatine while on Kashyyyk.
• Padme presenting a petition from the Senators to Palpatine.
• Yoda and Chewbacca ambushing an AT-ST.
• Yoda landing on Dagobah.
George Lucas to Appear on 'The O.C.'
The force is with "The O.C." George Lucas will guest star as himself on the May 12 episode, the Fox network announced Tuesday. The "Star Wars" creator will express interest in the graphic novel of the main character, Seth Cohen (Adam Brody).
Brody's character, an avid "Star Wars" fan, frequently has the good fortune of meeting his heroes. His favorite band, Death Cab for Cutie, recently played on the show.
Earlier this season, the trailer for "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith" premiered during the program. The final installment of the "Star Wars" saga will open in theaters on May 19.
Fox recently announced that "The O.C." will return for a third season. It airs Thursdays (8 p.m. EST).
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"Star Wars" Downsizes
Got the Boba Fett blues now that George Lucas has wrapped his final Star Wars movie installment?
Fret not, Force faithful, there is a new hope.
Jedi master George turned up over the weekend at Celebration III, a mega-gathering of 30,000 Star Wars geeks in Indianapolis, where he announced plans to move his space opera to the small screen.
For his first appearance at a Star Wars convention in 17 years, Lucas made a big splash. During a Q&A session, he announced that he is going to produce a 3-D animated action series expanding on the Cartoon Network's Emmy-winning Clone Wars. Then he dropped a bigger bomb, confirming a live-action Star Wars spinoff series is in the works.
Does that mean we'll get to see Darth Vader duking it out with the Donald on the next Apprentice?
Not quite.
According to Lucas, both shows will take place during the period between the end of Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith and the original Star Wars (aka Episode IV--A New Hope), when the Emperor became all-powerful and started hunting the Jedi down.
Lucas said the live-action series is the more ambitious undertaking, attempting to translate the magic of the Star Wars universe to the small screen via supporting characters that fans have only briefly come to know from the movies. The filmmaker added that the show will also be similar in tone to the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, the TV adventures inspired by his other mega-franchise.
"We're probably not going to start that for about a year," Lucas said. "Like on The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, we want to write all the stories for the entire first season all at once. I'm going to get it started and hire the showrunners and all of that, then I'll probably step away."
It is not known whether the two TV projects were the basis of a highly publicized Internet rumor a few months back speculating on future Star Wars adventures.
Lucasfilm has yet to make an official announcement on the new shows. The company doesn't even have a deal in place with a network to air either series because it's been marshalling all its minions for the hugely anticipated May 19 release of Revenge of the Sith, the final prequel.
This isn't the first occasion Lucas has packaged Star Wars for the boob tube. First, there was the infamous Star Wars Holiday Special in 1978, which Lucas has disowned. Then, after 1983's Return of the Jedi, he hatched two made-for-TV spinoffs, 1984's The Ewok Adventure and 1985's Ewoks: Battle for Endor, both of which were largely derided by Star Wars fans for focusing on the relatively tame deeds of the furry critters at the expense of action-packed escapades of cooler characters.
Lucas' infatuation with Ewoks continued with the Ewoks cartoon series, which was paired with another kiddie-themed 'toon, Droids, focusing on the mishaps of R2-D2 and C-3PO. Those shows ran from 1985 to '87.
It's expected that the new standalone animated series will showcase the same kind of epic battles as seen in the more action-oriented Clone Wars series of shorts--with the added benefit of adding potential new Star Wars enthusiasts and giving merchandisers the chance to sell even more action figures.
In some related Star Wars news, premiere fan site TheForce.net quotes Lucas telling people backstage at last weekend's confab that he's prepping yet another box set--this one will include all six films, plus a possible seventh disc featuring deleted scenes from the original trilogy. He says he doesn't expect to make any more tweaks to the films as he did with the last box set.
And lest you think you've seen the last of Darth and the gang on the big screen, think again. Lucas appeared at last month's ShoWest exhibitors convention in Las Vegas and announced that, starting in 2007, he'll rerelease all six episodes, beginning with the original Star Wars, in IMAX digital 3-D.
Meanwhile, the typically media-shy filmmaker is gearing up to make his own splash on the small screen. He's scheduled to guest star as himself on the May 12 episode of Fox's The O.C.. The plot: Lucas becomes interested in a graphic novel written by Seth (Adam Brody) and invites him to dinner to offer some sage advice. Seth is forced to choose between taking Summer to the prom or hanging with George.
Let's hope the Force will be with him.
Quote from: MacGuffinThe filmmaker added that the show will also be similar in tone to the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, the TV adventures inspired by his other mega-franchise.
That's a good idea.
Get inspiration from previous average work.
Bai Ling Visits 'Star Wars' Fans
Good things come to those who wait ... in line, even at the wrong theater.
Just ask the dozens of fans who've been camped out for weeks on Hollywood Boulevard, outside the legendary Grauman's Chinese Theatre, where previous "Star Wars" movies have played.
The fans expected the new "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith" to follow suit. But no. Instead, the film's big Hollywood engagement was booked at a competing theater about a mile away.
Still, the fans stayed put, citing both tradition and a safer neighborhood.
There were more than a few snickers at their expense. But on Wednesday morning, the squatters seemed to get the last laugh following a visit by Asian cinema superstar Bai Ling, who plays Senator Bana Breemu in "Episode III," which opens worldwide on May 19.
The visit was sponsored by Netflix, the online DVD-rental service, which provided those in line with portable DVD players and movies. The company is joining the fans' efforts to raise money for the Starlight children's charity, and is donating $10 for each new subscriber using the code "STARLIGHT" between now and "Episode III'"s release.
"We're here, basically, to give people love and compassion, to support people's dreams and share the dreams through 'Star Wars,'" Ling told Associated Press Television News.
The actress hugged many of the "Star Wars" fans, posed for photos and gave out autographs to all who asked. She said her appearance last weekend at the mammoth "Star Wars" convention in Indianapolis had her all fired up for the franchise.
"People were waiting in lines in the rain in the cold in the snow, just to see ("Star Wars" creator) George Lucas," she reported. "I was moved by how one person's dream can really change the world."
The actress stayed vague about her "Episode III" appearance, but made no secret of her awe over being a part of the "Star Wars" family.
"I feel strange because all the 'Star Wars' characters and George Lucas have sort of reduced the universe," she said. "I just feel very lucky to experience this part of history and a culture phenomenon."
It's about time for my SW fan factor to begin climbing sky high. My excitement is growing exponentially now. I'm even listening to all the soundtracks to the other movies. I even felt like popping in the Phantom Menace DVD this evening (I didn't act on those feelings, however).
My plan was to go see the Episode III at midnight the night before it opens, as I've always done before. I wanted to see it in DLP. However, the DLP screens in Dallas sold out really fast. So now the plan is to go see it at midnight at a regular theater, spend the next six hours geeking out about it, and then go see it at 8:30am the next morning at the digital theater. I figure that at this point, there's no real way it can disappoint me - and even if it does, the disappointment won't set in for like a week or so. And since this is the last time this sort of thing will probably ever happen, it's almost mandatory to make a huge deal out of it. At least to me. Best case scenario is that I'll want to see it a third time the following afternoon/evening.
So I've bought my tickets, and the countdown begins.
Oh wait, it's not May 1 yet. The countdown begins on Sunday.
Everybody Cross your fingers on this one maybe it won't be a let down.
wish wish wish
Although you put wish in one hand and shit in the other see which one feels up first :shock:
Im pumped. These trailers and previews have got me really excited. I mean, it will probably suck, but the action and duels will be tops. That's all I want.
Quote from: GhostboyIt's about time for my SW fan factor to begin climbing sky high. My excitement is growing exponentially now. I'm even listening to all the soundtracks to the other movies. I even felt like popping in the Phantom Menace DVD this evening (I didn't act on those feelings, however).
My plan was to go see the Episode III at midnight the night before it opens, as I've always done before. I wanted to see it in DLP. However, the DLP screens in Dallas sold out really fast. So now the plan is to go see it at midnight at a regular theater, spend the next six hours geeking out about it, and then go see it at 8:30am the next morning at the digital theater. I figure that at this point, there's no real way it can disappoint me - and even if it does, the disappointment won't set in for like a week or so. And since this is the last time this sort of thing will probably ever happen, it's almost mandatory to make a huge deal out of it. At least to me. Best case scenario is that I'll want to see it a third time the following afternoon/evening.
So I've bought my tickets, and the countdown begins.
Oh wait, it's not May 1 yet. The countdown begins on Sunday.
this is why i love you. :yabbse-thumbup:
I heard Weak2ndAct didn't like Magnolia, so I know Episode III will be great.
i cant wait for this film. i read kevin smiths review of the film and he said it was great/fantastic. and as most of you know kevin smith is a geek. so, he knows this kind of stuff. all of the stars war faithful can rest assured it will indeed kick ass. like a saliva bubble on the back of uncle owen's head....roll
but i am gearing up by watching the IV, V VII then watching I, II. then by that time i should be in theatres on Sunday to watch the new one. i actaully like the first two so there is no way this could let me down.
after studying the first film i also realized that darth maul is the coolest character in the series thus far.........
Lucas Worries 'Sith' Will Flop
With the final Star Wars film, Revenge of the Sith, not so far, far away, Darth Vader has landed on the cover of Time magazine, which assures fans that they will be breathing a lot easier than Vader when the movie opens on May 19. Critic Richard Corliss forecasts that there will be a "a sigh of relief that Lucas found the skill to make a grave and vigorous popular entertainment, a picture that regains and sustains the filmic Force he dreamed up." For his part, George Lucas tells Time that, while he believes "it turned out as well as I could have hoped," he worries that audiences may not think so. "I have a feeling this one is going to be sort of like the last one in terms of some people like it, some people hate it. And like everyone who makes movies, I'm always convinced the next one will be a flop. So right now I'm thinking it probably won't make any money and will be considered a failure."
http://www.slate.com/id/2117760/
May the Force Be With You, and You, and You ...
Why fans make better Star Wars movies than George Lucas.
By Clive Thompson
Posted Friday, April 29, 2005, at 1:11 PM PT
Good news, Star Wars buffs. There's a new movie out this spring—and it isn't by George Lucas. The 40-minute, fan-made Star Wars Revelations cost a mere $20,000. It's also just as good as—and often quite better than—the cringe-inducing Star Wars movies of recent years. Indeed, it's so artistically successful that it suggests a radical idea: Maybe Lucas should step aside and let the fans take over.
Our most cherished sci-fi franchises are in a creative trough. Lucas' movies have spiraled into unwatchability; Paramount has so exhausted its ideas for Star Trek that it's folding up its tent and going home. The fans, in contrast, still give a damn: The director of Revelations, Shane Felux, is clearly more knowledgeable about the strengths and weaknesses of the material than Lucas himself. Felux's movie retains the funky vibe of the original Star Wars, down to the kitschy, '70s-style wipes, the obligatory scene in an alien bar, and Darth Vader's throat-choking technique. Better yet, it jettisons Lucas' most loathed innovations—neither Jar Jar Binks nor any Ewoks make an appearance. Fans may be pointy-headed and obsessed with useless trivia, but they have excellent bullshit detectors.
The fans can also give Industrial Light and Magic a run for its money. When it comes to special effects, Revelations is nothing short of astonishing. Early on, there's a jaw-dropping chase scene in which the heroes' ship darts like a nimble fish through a cluttered space-yard, a fleet of TIE fighters in hot pursuit. Later, a stunning attack on an Empire Destroyer left me laughing in sheer surprise.
How could Felux produce scenes this good? Because desktop animation and editing programs like Bryce and Adobe Premiere Pro allow anyone to blow up a CGI spacecraft on a garage-band budget. What's more, Felux relied on the techniques of open-source design. Hundreds of people worldwide offered small bits of work, purely for the love of the project—and a chance to brag about their contribution. Felux wrangled free labor from over 30 CGI artists, including one supremely talented 16-year-old kid who lists his occupation as "being awesome." For live-action shots, Felux convinced unpaid actors and crew members to drive out to weekend shoots. When he needed uniforms for Storm Troopers and X-wing pilots, he borrowed them from fans who made their own.
Pretty freakin' awesome FX
Fan-made art is also easier to distribute than ever before. The proliferation of broadband in the past few years means that a movie doesn't have to open on 3,000 screens to get seen by millions of eyeballs. In only one week online, an estimated 1,000,000 people have already downloaded Star Wars Revelations. You can get the movie for free from various online sites or by using BitTorrent—don't worry, it's a legal download. BitTorrent in particular is so efficient in its use of bandwidth that I downloaded the entire 252-megabyte movie in around 12 minutes. (That's probably because 99 percent of the geeks who are into fan-created sci-fi are using BitTorrent.)
George Lucas has always encouraged Star Wars-inspired fan movies, so long as the wannabe auteurs didn't try to make a profit. (That's the case with Felux—he isn't selling his movie or any associated merchandise.) Lucas should do more, though. Once he stops polluting the world with prequels, he should slap a liberal "Creative Commons" copyright license on the Star Wars franchise. That would explicitly allow any fan to remix an existing movie, or create a new one in homage, so long as there's no profit involved. Everyone wins: Movies like Revelations keep the fan base alive, and Lucas can continue selling figurines until the sun explodes.
This open-source method won't work for every defunct cultural property. Fan art works best when it feeds off of dweeby universes that are jam-packed with characters. It would be easy to create amateur, offshoot films based on Lord of the Rings or The Twilight Zone, and possibly even a show with a revolving-door cast like Law & Order. Shows or movies that rely on a single, charismatic actor—like Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy the Vampire Slayer—aren't as easy to replicate. But Buffy fans could simply create spinoffs, the way Buffy's creator churned out a series of comic books starring other teen slayers.
All fan-created movies still face two big stumbling blocks: scriptwriting and acting. Even something as polished as Revelations is occasionally marred by a boilerplate plot and wooden acting. (Though that might make the homage all the more authentic given the hollowness of Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman in Attack of the Clones.) The amateurs, it seems, cannot escape the artistic trap that ensnares big-budget sci-fi auteurs. When you fall in love with CGI effects, sometimes you forget how to deal with those quaint, un-animated properties we call "actors."
Clive Thompson writes about gaming and technology for Slate.
Stills courtesy Shane Felux. All rights reserved.
So im playing episode 3 on xbox, man, its really really fun. If you ever wanted a game where you just kick ass with a lightsaber this is the one. I guess it follows the movie and suprisingly has alot of footage from the film. Lots of spoilers but I don't care. Im stuck fighting count dooku as anakin, I keep getting my ass kicked and obi wan got knocked out. The chancellor is just watching us fight, it's really creepy. Lots of fun though.
Quote from: StefenIf you ever wanted a game where you just kick ass with a lightsaber this is the one.
I always wanted that... and got screwed buying all the other StarWars game that have really not much to do with the movies... but I guess they are still fun
I get it if its out for PS2 or PC, but after I watch the film
Quote from: MacGuffinSony Music has announced that the soundtrack CD for Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith will street on 5/3. The CD will include a bonus DVD-Video disc that will feature a 70-minute presentation of some 16 newly-created music videos of composer John Williams' signature themes from all 6 Star Wars films (set to footage from the films) that takes viewers chronologically through the entire saga. Each will be introduced by actor Ian McDiarmid (Senator Palpatine) and will feature the music along with dialogue and sound effects excerpts in full Dolby Digital 5.1 surround. The package will also include a booklet with liner notes by George Lucas and a poster.
The DVD is awesome. If you've seen or heard about John Williams in concert performing his scores live while film clips of the movies show on screen, this is what the Musical Journey is like. It's like a Cliff Notes version of the Star Wars saga; the first part showing the growth of Anakin from innocent boy to becoming Darth.
(Mac already posted about it, but here is an Article today on Yahoo!)
Last 'Star Wars' Movie Said Not for Kids
SAN RAFAEL, Calif. - The Force lands in theaters a bit more forcefully in the final installment of George Lucas "Star Wars" tale.
"Episode III — Revenge of the Sith" is the first "Star Wars" tale to receive a PG-13 rating. The movie was screened for reporters Tuesday night at Lucas' Skywalker Ranch, and the PG-13 rating — "for sci-fi violence and some intense images" — is well-deserved.
The action is relentless and includes sequences more dark and disturbing than anything previously seen in the tragic Skywalker soap opera.
Young Jedi knight Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) completes his transformation into blackhearted villain Darth Vader with a bloodbath against old allies, the body count including a corridor of "youngling" corpses — Jedi children cut down by his light saber.
Anakin is left gruesomely mutilated in a death duel with former mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor). His surgical reclamation as the part-flesh, part-machine Vader is chillingly juxtaposed against the bleak childbirth scene of his wife, Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman), whose twins grow up to be heroes of the original "Star Wars" trilogy, Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia.
Even cute and cuddly Jedi master Yoda takes his lumps, torched by the electroshock treatment dished out by the saga's puppetmaster, the evil emperor (Ian McDiarmid).
The previous five "Star Wars" flicks all were rated PG, which carry the mild warning "parental guidance suggested," and that some scenes might be unsuitable for children. The PG-13 rating carries the alert "parents strongly cautioned" that some material could be inappropriate for those younger than 13.
"We're getting a lot of flak from parents, a lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?" Lucas told The Associated Press in a recent interview. "But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters. I'm making them because I'm telling a story, and I have to tell the story I intended."
Of course, the PG-13 rating does not prohibit children under 13 from seeing the film without an adult tagging along. And while it's not likely to make much of a dent in the movie's certain blockbuster status, the rating could give some parents pause.
"These are pretty intense. Who should be allowed to see them should be left up to the parents, but at least they're warned that it's pretty intense," Lucas said. "And obviously, that's not a good business move."
In the video game, when you play as Mace Windu in a jedi duel, he busts out his light sabre and says "I will strike you down with great vengeance and furious anger!"
Quote from: StefenIn the video game, when you play as Mace Windu in a jedi duel, he busts out his light sabre and says "I will strike you down with great vengeance and furious anger!"
You're joking, right?
:yabbse-undecided:
got 20 tickets for the first showing at 12:01am, and I'm inviting everybody at the office and allowing them to come to the office a little later the next day... of course it gives me the opportunity to do the same without anybody bitchin... its gonna be awsome!
Quote from: andykalgot 20 tickets for the first showing at 12:01am, and I'm inviting everybody at the office and allowing them to come to the office a little later the next day... of course it gives me the opportunity to do the same without anybody bitchin... its gonna be awsome!
Wow, where do you work? Any employment opportunities?
Quote from: StefenQuote from: andykalgot 20 tickets for the first showing at 12:01am, and I'm inviting everybody at the office and allowing them to come to the office a little later the next day... of course it gives me the opportunity to do the same without anybody bitchin... its gonna be awsome!
Wow, where do you work? Any employment opportunities?
I think we had that discussion before...
Quote from: andykalQuote from: StefenQuote from: andykalgot 20 tickets for the first showing at 12:01am, and I'm inviting everybody at the office and allowing them to come to the office a little later the next day... of course it gives me the opportunity to do the same without anybody bitchin... its gonna be awsome!
Wow, where do you work? Any employment opportunities?
I think we had that discussion before...
Really? Can I get a job? I'm dead serious.
Send me your resume... and we'll see
Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith
By Kirk Honeycutt, Hollywood Reporter
Bottom line: A rousing finale for the "Star Wars" saga that smoothly brings us back to where it all began.
The final episode of George Lucas' cinematic epic "Star Wars" ends the six-movie series on such a high note that one feels like yelling out, "Rewind!" Yes, rewind through more than 13 hours of bravery, treachery, new worlds, odd creatures and human frailty. The first two episodes of Lucas' second trilogy -- "The Phantom Menace" (1999) and "Attack of the Clones" (2002) -- caused more than a few fans of the original trilogy to wonder whether this prequel was worth it. The answer is a qualified yes. It did take a lot of weighty exposition, stiffly played scenes and less-than-magical creatures to get to "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith." But what a ride Lucas and Co. have in store!
Needless to say, international boxoffice will register in the hundreds of millions. The real question is how much money the entire series, now ready for packaging and repackaging for all sorts of formats and media, will eventually take in. Let's just say a lot.
What seems like the biggest drawback to "Episode III" turns out to be its strongest element. Even casual moviegoers know what is in store for the characters, who will wind up at the point where the original "Star Wars" -- now dubbed "Episode IV -- A New Hope" -- began the whole saga nearly 30 years ago. We know how Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker will turn to the dark side of the Force, how his twin children will be separated at birth and how his former master Obi-Wan Kenobi and the tiny Jedi Master Yoda will turn into mortal enemies. Yet watching these fates unfold with such tragic inevitability, watching each piece fall into place, is genuinely thrilling. In fact, knowing that these strong characters cannot and will not escape their fate is what moves us.
*READ ON AT OWN RISK*
The movie opens with a bang. Anakin (Hayden Christensen) and Obi-Wan (Ewan McGregor), swashbuckling Knights in jet planes, swoop into a Sith space armada, batting off various attack forces with seasoned aplomb. In the main battleship, Count Dooku (Christopher Lee) and his coyote-faced, mental skeletoned droid ally General Grievous -- one of many computerized characters -- hold the Republic's Chancellor Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) prisoner.
Action goes nonstop for more than 20 minutes as the two Jedi Knights supply the jaunty, gravity-defying heroics while the robot R2D2 (Kenny Baker) delivers brilliant comic action. This holds true throughout the new film as writer-director Lucas does a much better job of interweaving comedy with the dramatic and even tragic.
The seduction of the troubled Anakin to the dark side and the turn of the cool, cerebral Palpatine into the dictator of the Galactic Empire occur in an intelligent and persuasive way. The movie opens with the now traditional receding title crawl, which informs us that in the galactic warfare that has broken out, there are "heroes on both sides" and "evil is everywhere." Understandably, Anakin doesn't know whom to trust.
As it is, he leads a double life, having secretly married beauteous Sen. Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman). Her pregnancy will now force that secret into the open and cause him to lose his knighthood. Even more pressing, the rescued Palpatine brings Anakin into his confidence and plants doubts in his mind about the Jedi council. Sure enough, council head Mace Windu (Samuel L. Jackson) signals that he has lost his trust in Anakin.
Palpatine gets Anakin appointed to the council, but Anakin is not allowed to assume to title of master. Even more troubling, each side -- Palpatine and Obi-Wan -- comes to Anakin to ask him to spy on the other side. Soon dreams suggest to Anakin that Padme will die in childbirth. Palpatine hints to the distraught husband that only by exploring the Force more fully can he save his wife.
Poor dialogue and wooden acting still inflict the second trilogy. The tragic dimension of Anakin's dilemma can only barely withstand lines like this from Padme: "You're a good person. Don't do this." Many dialogue scenes, brief as they are, feel awkward and unnatural. Such scenes start cold -- we can almost sense the clapboard moving out of camera frame -- and end with long, lingering shots of actors' blank faces. Yet in face of the epic grandeur of the film's design and action, these are mere quibbles.
Now completely at home with digital filmmaking, Lucas can blaze a pioneering path as no one else. Shooting on soundstages in Australia and Britain with additional photography in China, Thailand, Switzerland, Italy and Tunisia, Lucas thrusts viewers into pitched battles in looming caverns and giant space ships or a lightsaber duel on a river of molten lava. Combining choreographic action aesthetics that are American, Chinese and other worldly, Lucas has redefined fantasy filmmaking with "Star Wars," while teaching a generation of filmmakers to accept no limitations.
Cinematographer David Tattersall makes everything match beautifully, while editors Roger Barton and Ben Burtt (the latter also credited with the ingenious sound design) propel the story ever forward. John Williams, Lucas' music collaborator through all six films, is content to rumble melodically in the background with only brief emotional swells at key moments. Trisha Biggar's costumes and all the props and makeup are delicious fun, genuinely integral parts of the storytelling. And the CG creatures are more lifelike than ever. A particular standout is a giant lizard McGregor gets to ride.
Yes, by all means, rewind!
a couple tv spots:
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/lucasfilm/hyperspace/epiii_protect_480_dl.mov
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/lucasfilm/hyperspace/epiii_tragedy2_480_dl.mov
The thing that got me really interested in this movie....not the commercials, not the trailers, not the ecstatic reports....
but the Fact that Spielberg weeped at the end of the movie.
That image alone makes me more excited than ever.
Those two spots are by far the best ads for this film. The expressions of the characters; at last, glimpses of emotion! The music choices are effective as hell, not the bombasic swelling of the orchestra like the other teasers, just...beautiful. "You're going to kill him". After all these years, for the first time, the Star Wars title screen doesn't blast into view; this time it fades in. Simple little detail that chocked me.
I'm pretty sure George Lucas' scriptwriting will ruin this movie.
hahaha. is it really necessary to have the narrator speed-talk at the end of every trailer?
trailers should at least expect the audience to be literate.
Hm, that "you're breaking my heart" line might prove you right, Sigur.
From thedigitalbits:
This is VERY early information, so take it with a grain of salt. But several of our video retail sources are indicating to us that 20th Century Fox has tentatively set Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith for release on 11/8 (a worldwide release on the same day). The 11/8 date for Episode III has been corroborated with multiple independent retailer sources. It also jives with the Burger King watch promotion details that leaked on 5/2 (see this post below). Again, however, I'd like to stress that none of this is official until announced by the studio (and Lucasfilm in the case of Episode III). It's possible that these dates will shift before they're made public (as they often do).
What we DO know about Episode III is that Lucas himself has confirmed (to MTV.com) that the film will be available on DVD in time for this Christmas, that the disc will include 5-6 deleted scenes, and that a 6-film box set will be available at some point in the future.
Quote from: Pubrickhahaha. is it really necessary to have the narrator speed-talk at the end of every trailer?
trailers should at least expect the audience to be literate.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. What's up with that guy at the end of every trailer?
Blind people aren't going to the cinema, are they?
Or are they?? :saywhat:
Yeah, it's really awful. Especially when you are all in the now and mood of the trailer and reeling in its effects on your psyche then some asshole jumps on with "RATED PG-13" Thanks for raping my nowhood, asshole.
Quote from: MacGuffinand that a 6-film box set will be available at some point in the future.
What? That was a close one. I was wondering if they'd forget to milk this completely out...
I couldn't help but laugh when the man said the movie is PG-13.
holy fucking shit balls its this week
Funny... remember I said that I have all these tickets to invite people at my office? Well it turns out that I have to fly Wednesday night to Argentina for work so I wont be able to go with them. They're all going and the next day they'll arrive probably arrive late and talk about the movie all day and there is nothing I can do... pissed me off!
Anyway... I got tickets to see it in Buenos Aires Thursday afternoon. We have a series of meetings planned for Thursday/Friday but we're going to see it in between. Its gonna be funny because we have a very big meeting there in the morning with investors and I wont really give a shit cause I will want to just go and see the movie. I cant wait anymore!
Some Surprises in That Galaxy Far, Far Away
By A. O. SCOTT
Published: May 16, 2005
CANNES, France, May 15 - With "Episode III - Revenge of the Sith," the "Star Wars" cycle at last comes to an end - or rather to a middle, since the second trilogy, of which this is the final installment, comes before the first in faraway-galaxy history even though it comes later in the history of American popular culture. Like many others whose idea of movies was formed by (and to some extent against) the galactically later, terrestrially earlier "Star Wars" trilogy, I was disappointed by "The Phantom Menace" and "Attack of the Clones." So I approached the recent press screening of "Episode III" in New York warily, and perhaps a little wearily, though to balance my own trepidation I brought along two fans whose enthusiasm in 2005 easily matched my own in 1977, when I was a little older than they are now and when "Star Wars" - oh, all right, "Episode IV - A New Hope" - landed in my hometown.
I was anticipating, at least, a measure of relief: finally, this extravagant, ambitious enterprise, a dominant fact of our collective cultural life for nearly 30 years, would be over. But I was hoping, a little anxiously, for more. Would George Lucas at last restore some of the old grandeur and excitement to his up-to-the-minute Industrial Light and Magic? Would my grown-up longing for a return to the wide-eyed enthusiasm of my own moviegoing boyhood - and my undiminished hunger for entertainment with sweep and power as well as noise and dazzle - be satisfied by "Revenge of the Sith"?
The answer is yeth.
This is by far the best film in the more recent trilogy, and also the best of the four episodes Mr. Lucas has directed. That's right (and my inner 11-year-old shudders as I type this): it's better than "Star Wars."
"Revenge of the Sith," which had its premiere here yesterday at the Cannes International Film Festival, ranks with "The Empire Strikes Back" (directed by Irvin Kershner in 1980) as the richest and most challenging movie in the cycle. It comes closer than any of the other episodes to realizing Mr. Lucas's frequently reiterated dream of bringing the combination of vigorous spectacle and mythic resonance he found in the films of Akira Kurosawa into American commercial cinema.
To be sure, some of the shortcomings of "Phantom Menace" (1999) and "Attack of the Clones" (2002) are still in evidence, and Mr. Lucas's indifference to two fairly important aspects of moviemaking - acting and writing - is remarkable. Hayden Christensen plays Anakin Skywalker's descent into evil as a series of petulant bad moods. Natalie Portman, as Senator (formerly Queen) Padmé Amidala, to whom Anakin is secretly married, does not have the range to reconcile the complicated and conflicting demands of love and political leadership. Even the more assured performers - Samuel L. Jackson as the Jedi master Mace Windu, Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jimmy Smits as Senator Bail Organa (note the surname) - are constrained by their obligation to speechify. Mr. Lucas, who wrote the script (reportedly with the uncredited assistance of Tom Stoppard), is not one to imply a theme if he can stuff it into a character's mouth. Ian McDiarmid, as Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, who transforms from a rancid political hack into a ruthless totalitarian before our eyes, gives the most powerful performance; Yoda, the spry green Jedi master voiced by Frank Oz, some of his finest work in this film does. (R2-D2 is also in fine form).
Anyway, nobody ever went to a "Star Wars" picture for the acting. Even as he has pushed back into the Jedi past, Mr. Lucas has been inventing the cinematic future, and the sheer beauty, energy and visual coherence of "Revenge of the Sith" is nothing short of breathtaking. The light-saber battles and flight sequences, from an initial Jedi assault on a separatist stronghold to a fierce duel in the chambers of the Senate, are executed with a swashbuckling flair that makes you forget what a daunting technical accomplishment they represent. Some of the most arresting moments are among the quietest - an evening at home with the Skywalkers, for example, as they brood and argue in their spacious penthouse overlooking a city skyline set aglow by the rays of the setting sun, or a descent into the steep, terraced jungle landscape of the Wookiee planet. The integration of computer-generated imagery with captured reality (in other words, what we used to call movies) is seamless; Mr. Lucas has surpassed Peter Jackson and Steven Spielberg in his exploitation of the new technology's aesthetic potential. Even the single instance where the effects don't quite work - a climactic battle superimposed on a filmed eruption of Mount Etna - suggests not a failure of vision but a willingness to try what may not yet quite be possible.
But every picture, however ravishing, needs a story, and the best way to appreciate how well this one succeeds is to consider the obstacles it must surmount in winning over its audience. First of all, though there are a few surprises tucked into the narrative (which I won't give away), everybody knows the big revelation of the end, since it was also the big revelation at the end of the previous trilogy: Darth Vader is Luke's father. We also know, for the most part, which of the major figures are going to survive the various perils they face. So an element of suspense is missing from the outset.
More than that, the trajectory of the narrative cuts sharply against the optimistic grain of blockbuster Hollywood, in that we are witnessing a flawed hero devolving into a cruel and terrifying villain. It is a measure of the film's accomplishment that this process is genuinely upsetting, even if we are reminded that a measure of redemption lies over the horizon in "Return of the Jedi." And while Mr. Christensen's acting falls short of portraying the full psychological texture of this transformation, Mr. Lucas nonetheless grounds it in a cogent and (for the first time) comprehensible political context.
"This is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause," Padmé observes as senators, their fears and dreams of glory deftly manipulated by Palpatine, vote to give him sweeping new powers. "Revenge of the Sith" is about how a republic dismantles its own democratic principles, about how politics becomes militarized, about how a Manichaean ideology undermines the rational exercise of power. Mr. Lucas is clearly jabbing his light saber in the direction of some real-world political leaders. At one point, Darth Vader, already deep in the thrall of the dark side and echoing the words of George W. Bush, hisses at Obi-Wan, "If you're not with me, you're my enemy." Obi-Wan's response is likely to surface as a bumper sticker during the next election campaign: "Only a Sith thinks in absolutes." You may applaud this editorializing, or you may find it overwrought, but give Mr. Lucas his due. For decades he has been blamed (unjustly) for helping to lead American movies away from their early-70's engagement with political matters, and he deserves credit for trying to bring them back.
But of course the rise of the Empire and the perdition of Anakin Skywalker are not the end of the story, and the inverted chronology turns out to be the most profound thing about the "Star Wars" epic. Taken together, and watched in the order they were made, the films reveal the cyclical nature of history, which seems to repeat itself even as it moves forward. Democracies swell into empires, empires are toppled by revolutions, fathers abandon their sons and sons find their fathers. Movies end. Life goes on.
George Lucas and Hayden Christensen interviewing each other:
http://movies.channel.aol.com/feature/starwars/unscripted.adp
say, hasn't anyone seen this yet?
ahem.. i SAID.. i WONDER if anyone has SEEN this YET?!? ANYONE?!
am i the first? well..
NOTE: i havn't whited out the two "spoiler" sections, tho u may look away cos they describe
scenes in sum detail. also, there's like nothing to spoil in the whole movie anyway.
i just saw a preview screening around 6 hours ago. firstly, a vague overall assessment:
easily the best of the prequels, and better than Return of the Jedi. which would tie it as 2nd or at worst, 3rd behind A New Hope.
from the opening sequence it really pulls u in visually, i gotta say if u don't immediately forget the special effects crap u are too jaded for the movie. there's mind-boggling visual detail in some scenes, it's almost distracting, but it helps to immerse u into the world. there's political talk as always but it's not as boring as epII, here u actually follow the politics and it enriches the dramatic developments. it's almost as if the other two movies were pointless, all the good stuff happens here.
the dialogue is still shite, but u get the jist of it and the story is just too good to be sabotaged this time. still, there were several points where my friend and i just CRACKED up in laughter. it was so unintentional it really broke the mood of the scenes, these three stand out--
----- purists look away - scene spoilers, the last two are from near the end. -----
-the jedis are being hunted, so yoda says goodbye to chewbacca and the other chewbacca thing, the chewies are left staring at each other and "talking" in their language, but it's just HOWLS to us of course, like two bobcat goldthwaits. fuggin HILARIOUS.
-when padme goes to the lava planet to plead with annakin, he starts choking her and from behind in her ship's doorway Obi-wan appears, he says sumthing and as we cut to him he's POSING LIKE SUPERMAN in the doorway, my god, fists on his hips, like he has a cape or sumthing. HILARIOUS.
-the best part, darth vader when he finds out that his choke led to padme's death. devastated, he yells "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" with his arms outstretched, i had to stop myself from falling off my seat with laughter, all that was left was for him to get on his knees and hit the ground. wow. HILARIOUS.
\_____ end unintentional comedic genius _____/
so despite those moments, of which the third is the only real disappointment, it's still high-grade entertainment. natalie portman is lovvvvvely. or maybe it's just me, i mean, she doesn't act or anything, she just looks beautiful. but damn if she doesn't do it so well. it's an important point i think cos it's ultimately anakin's love for her that drives him to the dark side.
thus ends the tragic love story, as we all knew it would, with anakin losing all that is good in his life and gaining an empire. but i still hav my reservations, is it as tragic as it could have been? upon reflection, the story is undeniably sad, yet sumhow lucas hasn't made me FEEL the loss of love. yes, maybe that third mood-killer was the clincher.
finally, a few words on the last 20 mins.. again, scene descriptions follow
i'm glad lucas didn't go all lord of the rings on us.
- before the montage, the parallel sequence of anakin's transformation / padme's death / the twins birth is excellently done. i liked that when anakin's body was on the operating table even the print of the film looked grimy, with a single light source, contrasted to the light-filled coccoon of padme's room.
- padme's funeral, with an aptly short two second cut-away to jar jar binks, all those other characters i don't know who they are but i'm sure they mean sumthing. it was an alrite start to the montage.. with echoes of her final hopeful lines as she clutches the necklace anakin gave her. this theme is maintained as the rest of the montage progressively does build to a "new hope".
- yoda and obi-wan's immortality, explaining how they appear to luke at the end of Return of the Jedi. i assume the "good" that was left in vader, upon his death, was what remained of the youthful anakin, this ties in with padme's last line "there's good in him still". that's as logical as it's gonna get, picolbug.
- vader building the death star. i really liked that the costumes of his helpers were back to 70s standards by the final scenes, and the buttons on his own costume were total retro. oh, and James Earl Jones lives!
- leia's and luke's adoptions. ending on luke's, this was another GUFFAW moment for me but only cos the actor playing luke's dad, Joel Edgerton, used to be on an australian drama series. so when they showed him holding baby luke we were like "the dude from Secret Life of Us? haha, anti climax.."
..roll credits.
It sounds great. I'm not expecting a miracle really. Roger Ebert has a great review up where he talks a little bit about the mechanics of dialogue. I never could understand how a film director like Lucas overlooks poorly acted moments. It's so obvious to the audience that I'm surprised he didn't work to get it just right. That's my biggest complaint really. The story is a little thin for episodes 1 & 2 but it's the acting itself and the overall disregard for that craft that bothers me. One has to wonder what he is thinking while he goes through dailys.
"this looks fucking awesome"
you guys remember when you saw the episode 1 teaser for the first time? I do, man, i was stoked. these movies have been bad and people have panned them but they have been alot of fun, its almost like people were expecting them to be the greatest cinematic achievements of all time. the original trilogy is bad too but its fun so people like them, the same should be said about the prequels. a young obi wan is the best thing about the series I think.
I cannot even begin to review this film right now. Everything needs to be sorted out, which will probably end up with my eventual review getting lost inbeween a thousand others. Yet I feel obligated to do one. I'll probably delay it until my second viewing on saturday.
That review, though, will almost definitely be a positive one. I'm just so, so thankfull it's tragic, sincerly tragic. Every single aspect, be it acting, writing, editing, is improved upon from the last two. In my opinion, as pubrick said, it's better than Jedi. By a long shot actually. Fuck, this is growing into a review. I'm tired, and school's in a few hours.
I'm just going to say that i think Yoda stole the show. I would've like to have seen more wookies and more grievous but dammit i can't complain, the movie was incredible. Now I can't wait for the theater to open tomorrow so i can see it again.
I feel asleep. It was like watching intergalactic C-SPAN.
I really liked it. The dialog was bad (of course) but there wasn't a lot of it. I think this is certanly the best of the prequals but that goes without saying they have all been building up to this.
and i can't wait for the next one
What a disappointment. I'd say this is better than Phantom Menace but worse than Attack of the Clones. I'm a Star Wars geek and I still feel a lot of excitement and emotion watching the original trilogy, this film left me feeling nothing. I wasn't excited or happy or sad or surprised or anything during the entire film.
Once again, any scene between Padme and Anakin is terrible. Expect laughter to occur either by you or others during these scenes.
The action sequences are bigger and faster but far from being good. Instead we are left with action sequences that are average, they are the same fast cut cgi filled action sequences that fill every other action film the past years (a la Blade Trinity). The result isn't suspense, but disorientation.
There is a lot of lightsaber fights, but nothing that stands out like the fights in the Original trilogy or the final one in Phantom Menace. It seems that all the grace of lightsaber battles have been taken out and we are left with battles that rely on lots of backflips and swinging the saber as fast and hard as possible. Also, most of these sequences are shot in primarily close-up.
Emperor Palaptine comes off as a big joke. In fact, a lot of the serious stuff in this film comes off this way. Palaptine isn't scary, he is just goofy. The same goes for Vader's entrance.
I've read well over 20 star wars novels over my lifetime and loved all of them. I realized that the reason those stories are so good is because they were written by people who truly loved Star Wars and it's characters. That is the problem with the prequels, I truly doubt if Lucas loves Star Wars like his fans do. To him, the films are just dollars signs and marketing vehicles.
Lucas has raped me for hundreds and hundreds of dollars over the years. Today I willingly gave up my last few dollars to him. Our relationship is now, finally, over.
This is the best movie I've ever seen in my life, ever (reason will come with the dawn).
I have a ticket to see it again in three and a half hours, but I'm not going. It was emotionally draining. In the best possible way.
Yeah, I loved it. Like I've read others say, the end made me immediately want to go rewatch IV (which I probably will do in a few minutes). I expected it to be a bit heavy considering the subject matter, but damn, aside from the R2 antics up front, there's nary a laugh (well, intentional) to be found.
And how long was that opening shot? Niiiiiiice stuff.
I need to see this again. And get some sleep.
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I have a ticket to see it again in three and a half hours, but I'm not going. It was emotionally draining. In the best possible way.
Never mind. Can't sleep. Back to the theater I go...this time to see it in DLP.
fine.. a review u will read:
worked
visual effects
thematic arc
the last 20mins
failed
obi-wan's superman entrance
dialogue
darth vader's NOOOOOOO
winner
portman's face.
Quote from: SHAFTRWhat a disappointment. I'd say this is better than Phantom Menace but worse than Attack of the Clones.
Phantom Menace < Attack of the Clones? This opinion confuses me.
Very simply, just like everyone said already. The whole movie was good. But Lucas couldn't write a god damn sentence.
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Also The scene with Mace and the sith lord was just fucking funny as hell. Hearing him be like " O please NO NO NO don't kill me." It kinda fucking up Anikins fall to the darkside.
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The movie wasn't bad, i just think i was expecting more.
I would give it 3 out of 5 stars
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkI feel asleep. It was like watching intergalactic C-SPAN.
hmm, that's funny, 'cause
Quote from: roger ebertit played like the Republic covered by C-Span
Quote from: GhostboyThis is the best movie I've ever seen in my life, ever (reason will come with the dawn).
hahah! i love you!
quick review: easily EASILY the best of the prequels, which suck balls (as i noticed rewatching both of them recently) but still nowhere near the stratosphere of greatness of the original trilogy. although this one does kick ass. i need to see it again, RIGHT AWAY!
My review (no spoilers):
Being a casual fan, what I appreciate most about the prequels (particulalrly ROTS) is how they have enhanced the original trilogy. Although I see the prequels as completely seperate, inferior entities I'm extremely glad I've seen them.
I see them as being a cinematic first. The memory of the prequels, although very recent, becomes a shared history with the charatcters of the original trilogy. This seems very simple I suppose i.e. the beginning was bound to benefit the middle more than the other way around but its a pretty fascinating cinematic example.
I still have the same issues with the special effects - the over reliance on CGI was in some places completely bizzare (the commanders head tracked on a cgi bodyand some sets looking completely plastic).
The final shot only managed to conjour half of the power of the original it paid homage to and that pretty much sums up the whole thing for me. I left the cinema kind of sad and I couldn't figure out whether that was because of how sad the film was or how sad I was that I hadn't loved it that much. A bit of both I expect and all the same I look back at the prequels suprisingly fondly - my childhood memories of the originals were not scarred (being only fourteen when the Phantom Menace was released) and despite all the issues I have with them its only the few electrifying moments that they're responsible for that I remember.
Quote from: RaikusQuote from: SHAFTRWhat a disappointment. I'd say this is better than Phantom Menace but worse than Attack of the Clones.
Phantom Menace < Attack of the Clones? This opinion confuses me.
Yes, I think Phantom Menace is worse than Attack of the Clones. Now, I have seen Phantom recently and it's been about a year since I saw Clones, so I do need to rewatch it.
I was in denial for a long time in admitting that Phantom wasn't good, now I realize that the only great part is the Duel of Fates saber fight. The fact that Jake Lloyd and Jar Jar comprise well over 60% of the film really ruins it.
I saw this last night at the midnight screening. I almost fell asleep too somewhere in the middle. I thought it was okay, it got better as it continued. The acting and the writing was pretty weak all the way through I thought. But it has some good special effects and at least the whole Star Wars story totally fits together and makes sense now.
Quote from: peteQuote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkI feel asleep. It was like watching intergalactic C-SPAN.
hmm, that's funny, 'cause
Quote from: roger ebertit played like the Republic covered by C-Span
That is really funny cuz I haven't even read that review.
Also, the very beginning got a big laugh "War!"
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkAlso, the very beginning got a big laugh "War!"
I pictured Trey Parker's "March of War" newsreel voice from the South Park movie as I read the crawl.
It's good, exactly what I expected. I don't hate the prequels with a vengeance; they're the songs you skip over on an album you like... sometimes you listen.
But it figures. Just when Lucas gets a hang of this directing thing, he's done with Star Wars. [insert unnecessary complaint about bad dialogue and performances except for Ewan's here] But the talk of it being better than Hope, Empire or Jedi is ridiculous.
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portman's face.
Portman's face wasn't even that much of a winner this time around. She was looking kind of strange towards the beginning. Did anyone else notice it? Like maybe she was sick the day they filmed the scene with her and Anakin in their love shack? I don't even remember what the hell they were talking about because I was trying to figure out what was up with her face.
Spoliers
Saw this last night and I am still in awe. It really blew me away. The fight scenes were just amazing. There were a couple of cheesy lines of dialogue that made the actors feel like that they were a B movie but I let that go. It was slightlt sad to see Mace Windu go get killed by the chancelor. I thought it was interesting to see that they killed off so many prominent characters so early in the story for this one such as Count Dooku. When the baby's were born, I thought it was way too quick that she knew what their names would be. The fire burning Anakin's body-fantastic and seemed realistic. There was a part that really got to me that I thought was completely over the top. When Darth learning that he himself killed Padme said "No!!!". That little part made me cringe. Also, Natalie is really purty.
How can he write so crappy on the SW movies, but then American Graffiti is so great?
Gloria Katz & Willard Huyck.
They also wrote Howard the Duck.
ohhh, a conundrum.
Quote from: pubrickit's almost as if the other two movies were pointless, all the good stuff happens here.
yes, i agree totally. even Lucas admits in the new EW that of the original outline he made of the story of the WHOLE saga like 30 years ago 60% of it is in Ep III, (with only 20% each per I & II, which means they are pointless filler). he also said there was so much he had left in the outline for this episode he had to cut some stuff out because it would've been even longer (like padme starting the rebel alliance)! to me, after re-watching ep I for the first time in like 5 years the movie is almost completely pointless. it sets up little to nothing that could'nt have been setup in another film. II has a little bit of good information so what I think would've been better is if they had stretched half of II and all of III over the 3 films to have a more continuous spacious (good, believable arcs) trilogy. not this entire lifestory thing. nobody cares about when he was 8. seriously, just give it a mention and move on. we dont need 130 minutes.
Quote from: SHAFTRit's been about a year since I saw Clones, so I do need to rewatch it.
when you do, you'll see that ep III is much MUCH better. you're memory is rosecolored, trust me. and as far as lucas sort of not caring about these characters as much as other writers, i'm inclined to agree with you. its almost like you can see what a 'burden' its been to him not to be able to make his experimental movies and to have to 'finish' this story so he's just kind of been trudging through these prequels to get to the finish line. also evidenced by the EW story where he mentions how he hates to write the scripts and leaves a lot of it to the last minute to work out in the editing. (and how he asked Ron Howard and Steven Spielberg to direct one prequel each but they both passed). he knows the outline of whats to happen (and its brilliant) but figuring out the subtleties of HOW to make this stuff happen is certainly his weak point. he is a genius as an idea man, or special effects pioneer etc. but as a director or writer, he needs some help. or just to pick a project he is more passionate about. not just use the prequels as vehicles to push his ILM artists further.
more later...
Quote from: themodernage02he is a genius as an idea man, or special effects pioneer etc. but as a director or writer, he needs some help. or just to pick a project he is more passionate about. not just use the prequels as vehicles to push his ILM artists further.
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I disagree. He once was a genius, but now I feel he is a middle aged man who is curious about technology. The result is a man who loves to play with toys and show them off but doesn't really understand how to use them anymore.
'Revenge of Sith' midnight shows reap about $17 million
While the storm troopers of doubt circled the beleaguered boxoffice of late, the Force was beginning to flex its power as 20th Century Fox's "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith" was shattering records out of the gate with an estimated $16.5 million-to-$17 million in receipts from the midnight shows alone, the distributor said Thursday. "We'll be counting the grosses for a while. It's an absolutely remarkable number. It seems like the industry got kickstarted last night at midnight," said Bruce Snyder, president of domestic distribution for Fox. Snyder noted that final numbers will not be available for some time because midnight shows are not usually broken out of a single day's gross at the boxoffice. "Revenge of the Sith" began playing midnight shows in 2,900 theaters in North America at 12:01 a.m. Thursday. Snyder could not give a firm screen count, but noted that it could be significantly higher because of interlocking, the practice of taking one print and showing it on multiple screens within a theater, and the lack of any other films playing midnight shows on Thursday.
watching this movie made me feel like saying, "NAH! BOO!"
get it?
This was a great, great film. I am so impressed.
God, after the letdown that was Episode I and II, this is a shocker. How can two movies suck so bad and this one be so terrific? Anyway! There is so much texture and life in this film. Even the dialogue is at least average all the way through and really striking in parts.
Gonna go see this again and will write more soon.
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obi-wan's superman entrance
I actually liked that shot. There was no motion, no reveal. Just a simple cut-to. And when the cut happened, you knew shit was gonna go down.
Geek mode on/
Spoilers....
Ranking the Jedis and Siths.
1. Darth Sidius - don't think anyone could had brought him down in a pure one-on-one battle. The duel with Mace seemed like an act of deception to get Anakin to join the Dark Side. And Vader only got to kill him when he wasn't paying attention. The emperor probably never fully taught Vader every secret of the Dark Side, so Vader never advanced beyond the emperor's level.
2. Yoda - he's a notch below Sidius. I don't think we got to see how great he really was in his youth before he was way past his prime. The little man held his own in every duel. He's a heavyweight and like a lightning ninja and harks back to his prime with badass reflexes and agility when he has to put the boxing gloves on, then it's back to the walking stick and reading books.
3. Luke - skillwise, he's not really the most awesome ever. how the hell did he jump so high though? well, despite his inexperience and raw abilities, he beat Vader in ROTJ. He then got his ass whooped by the emperor though, so he's not thaaat great yet. Not even Yoda faced that kind of one-sided beatdown torture, so Luke's below those two masters. Maybe he eventually became the greatest jedi ever later on, but we don't know yet. episodes 7-9 haven't been told.
4. Darth Vader - He's the "chosen one" and he should had been the greatest jedi ever, but I put him below Sidius because he just wasn't badass enough to beat him. If he had the power, he would had destroyed the emperor a long time ago by himself. But he even asked Luke to help him in his quest to overtake the emperor in Empire. The emperor was like a redneck husband to vaders housewife self. He would give him a texas sized (mental) beatdown whenever he stuck up for himself or showed any kind of independance.
And I place Vader below Yoda because I just don't really see a prime Yoda being that much weaker than Sidius.
And Luke is ranked higher than his dad because, well, he whooped his dad's ass convincingly.
5. the Count - thought he was on par with Yoda in episode 2, but then Anakin kicked his ass and chopped his head off in Revenge of the Sith. He did crush Obi Wan twice though.
6. Mace - gave Sidius a run for his money. But really went out like a broke ass chump.
7. Obi Wan - not the greatest fighter. what he lacks in skill he makes up for in patience and understanding. He beat Darth Maul and Anakin even though those two were supposedly stronger than him. Hes got the most heart out of all of them, something I feel jedis lack.
8. Darth Maul - he had mad skills, but then got too cocky. he died like a bitch taking a smoke break. just lost his focus for a second, but that was enough to send him to defeat.
9. Qui gon - Obi Wan's master gets some respect. he's supposedly better than Obi Wan, but Obi Wan, the apprentice, was the one that beat the guy that killed Qui gon. He was kind of all talk, in episode 1 when he has to fight darth maul right before leaving tatooine he almost runs out of breath and then conjures up a jedi second wind and jumps onto the plane, where he sits on his ass gasping for air and then tries to change the subject by introducing Anakin to Obi Wan, something a Jedi should have foreseen not to do.
Geek mode off/
I still can't get over a name like Count Dooku..
:yabbse-undecided:
Wasn't going to go to the midnight show. Wanted to go alone on thursday afternoon and judge the movie on it's own merrit, without the geek anticipation beer goggles I had with eps 1 and 2.
But a girl I have a giant fucking crush on asked me to go, so...
In short, it stands as the best in a really shitty trilogy. Nothing I can say that hasn't already been said a few times.
But I'm proud of myself. Even with the army of blind followers surrounding me, I was able to judge the movie by what was on screen. And it's nowhere near Empire, or New Hope really. It's in the same stratosphere as jedi, but the vader/emporer/luke battle is better than anything in this movie.
And so, I'm thankful that this one was less shitty than the other prequles, but that's about as far as it goes.
Quote from: bonanzatazwatching this movie made me feel like saying, "NAH! BOO!"
get it?
You're Bantha fodder.
SPOILS
I saw it last night and I'm still weighing out how much I liked it in my head.
The good stuff was great... it's obviously the best of the prequels... the design... oh my lord, the design was so awesome... the only thing consistant throughout all of the prequelogy... so beautiful, brings us there in a perfectly smooth transition. You can almost tell things about who is going to join the rebelion and who is going to bow to the empire by what vehicles they use. So good.
The only emotional scene that has worked in this entire new batch was at the end with Anakin and Obi-Wan... where Obiwan is telling him how effed up it is that he betrayed everyone and how much he loved and trusted him... you can actually tell he feels this (Lucas let him act), you can see it in his eyes... then Vader just says "I hate you"... Fuck... that's where the movie should have ended.
Lots of shit too... the Vader howl was the worst... it mad me sad. Yoda fighting too much (nice Pandering, George). Wookie battle not as cool as was needed (if you would have told a twelve year old RK that he would get to see Yoda bring clones to aid a planet of wookies in fighting the droids... tears of joy). Lots of other stuff too.
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-the jedis are being hunted, so yoda says goodbye to chewbacca and the other chewbacca thing, the chewies are left staring at each other and "talking" in their language, but it's just HOWLS to us of course, like two bobcat goldthwaits. fuggin HILARIOUS.
You didn't mention the funniest part about this.... it's almost EXACTLY the goodbye scene in E.T.... even the score starts sounding like E.T. HA! I can't tell if George did it for a laugh or if he thought "E.T. made them cry... let's do that".
Now the questions for the more hardcore geeks... How come whenever a clone took of his helmet, his head was all cg and shakey? At first I thought 'well, it's because there's a bunch of them and they all look alike, so you can't shoot them all at the same time', but then there is at least one scene where it's just one clone and he head is all wobbley and pasted on. Did George forget that they should all be Jango and have to do a cut and paste later?
doubt he forgot. As much as he jerks off to fx, I figure he did it because he could.
'Star Wars' grosses record $50 mln in first day
The final chapter of the "Star Wars" movie saga grossed $50 million from its first 24 hours in North American theaters, a record opening-day box office tally, according to estimates released on Friday by studio 20th Century Fox.
"Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith," the last installment in the six-part epic George Lucas launched nearly 30 years ago, surpassed the previous first-day box office record set by "Spider-Man 2," according to Exhibitor Relations Inc.
$50 million in one day. $50 million in one day. You guys should try saying this. Hell, say it out loud, "Fifty fucking million dollars in one goddamn day."
That's incredible. Not surprising, but absolutely incredible.
Edited for further accentuation. Holy God.
Okay.
at my current earning rate, I could live for 66.6 years (or the rest of my life) on one fiftieth of what this film grossed in 24 hours.
Just something to ponder while eating your burrito supreme.
Here is a printable form (http://www.geeksquad.com/content/absentee/work.html) that geeks can turn in to their boss to get out of work and see Episode III.
i agree that it was easily the best of the prequels. there were a few chill bumps moments when you knew it was about to go down. in the end though, we knew the fate of the main characters, so we knew who wouldn't die. there were a few of Darth's and Palpatine's lines that sounded a bit cheesy. i'm not talking about the content of what they're saying, but how they expressed it.
about CGI clone:
i think the body seemed too small to be that actor's. for some reason i guess George wanted the clones to be thinner.
did anyone watch it on a digital screen?
i just wondered about the extra scene.
AMAZING
I'll post more about it later cause I'm in a hurry, but damn it was better that what I expected... and 50 mil in a day... makes me happy. Not that these fuckers need more money really, but they deserve it anyway.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: bonanzatazwatching this movie made me feel like saying, "NAH! BOO!"
get it?
You're Bantha fodder.
yeah, yeah, wouldn't be the first time somebody said that to me. thing is, i am such a fan of the originals and i was very let down by these movies. barring any expectations i may have had because of the originals, as a trilogy, these prequels just do not work. episode I at least kind of had a sense of playfulness and fun to it, and they blended puppets, live action, and cgi so well. it really seemed like lucas was excited to tell the story, even if the movie itself wasn't so hot. also, episode IV puts so much into its core group of characters. the original trilogy is so successful b/c you want to spend two more movies with these characters. lucas made the mistake of having the entire episode I revolve around a little boy anakin skywalker, and that little boy had to be jake lloyd, just another annoying child actor with no distinctive qualities to write home about. then you have jar jar binks, who would have had a much bigger part and been one of the core characters of this trilogy had audiences not hated him so much. lucas banked a lot on people liking jar jar, but jar jar was just fucking annoying (i kind of like jar jar, but only because of the south park episode jakovosaurs). the acting in episode I is bad, yes, but not nearly as bad as it was in episodes II and parts of episode III. this is because lucas actually used some sets and puppets and real people in episode I. of course acting is going to be stale if you have to act against empty space in front of a green screen.
so lucas realized he made a few mistakes and tries to pander to the audience just a little bit with episode II. only a tiny bit of jar jar and a grown up anakin, but now the core characters have changed. the movie could have spent more time developing the characters a little more and trying to give us a reason to like hayden (who just fails to emote as an actor), but instead, it just builds up the empire's plot to take over and gives us dazzling computer graphics. a few scenes try and show how amidala and anakin fall in love, but it's already been said that these scenes were not treated with care. i don't believe that these people are in love.
so we get to episode iii. by now, i don't care about the characters, i'm slightly confused about the plot for the empire to take over the universe (which is surprising condisdering how much time is spent on this aspect), and i'm completely aware that the whole thing is just shot on a digital soundstage - just computer worlds that animators must have busted their asses off to make. i can't suspend disbelief b/c computer animation will always look like computer animation. while the jawas in empire may have moved funny b/c they were animated using stop motion (i think. i'mm just baffled as to how they did any special effects in the originals. and didn't that used to be the point of big special effects movies?), but the puppets were made of real hair and if you shot a close up of them, it looked real, not digital. but i'm digressing, as i really want to get to how the fundamentals of the story blew, not the aesthetics. basically, i hated anakin since episode i, hated him even more when he became hayden in epii, so when evil threatens to destroy him, i just don't give a fuck. i don't feel the burden that i felt when evil almost destroyed luke in episode VI. i wasn't wowed or moved emotionally at all because i just didn't care (except for when anakin is burning and obi wan tells him how disappointed he is. that kind of got to me). and i didn't understand why anakin goes to the dark side when he sees how much of an asshole palpatine is after mace windu is thrown out the window. why does he turn on the jedis with such ease if he's been learning the jedi ways since he was 8? b/c he wants to save amidala? please. granted, i was pretty high when i saw the movie, so maybe it makes sense, but if that is the explanation then it's pretty lame.
a lot of people try to make the argument that the original trilogy was cheesy as well and the acting was just as stale. if that's the case, then i just can't understand why when i watch the originals today, i am in shock and awe and nearly in tears EVERY time the death star is blown up, EVERY time it is revealed that vader is luke's father, EVERY time han is frozen in carbonite. those movies make me feel so emotional while the new ones make me feel nothing. it's poor storytelling and an attempt to cash in on people's loyalty to the series and it stinks.
i hope people read this long post and i hope it opens you all up to tell me how much i suck and explain to me what i'mm not getting.
Quote from: bonanzatazi hope people read this long post and i hope it opens you all up to tell me how much i suck and explain to me what i'mm not getting.
no, you're right. that post actually makes me want to rent episode one because i agree with you
so much about everything else you said and i haven't seen it in years. i hate how people rationalize the suckiness of the prequels by deciding the originals were bad.
***spoils[/b][/color] including script excerpts (thanks, http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.html)
this wasn't a good movie. it had a few good moments.
- War!
- the first shot
- sideways elevator adventure
- the long moment when Anakin contemplates his situation and Palpatine while watching traffic.
- the silence/breathing after the mask goes on.
- Anakin without legs, Obi-Wan's reaction
- Padme's funeral
- the score, which deserved a better movie.
some of the moments were even great, but mostly because/if they were connected to the original trilogy. unfortunately, they were also lost in a sea of badness. Yoda's grammar is more messed up than in any other Star Wars, and it reflects the confusion in the writing pretty well. he was so eloquent in Empire. "That is why you fail." beautiful. now we have this:
YODA: Destroy you I will, just as Master Kenobi your apprentice will destroy.
i'm with bonanzataz on the thing that was absolutely key to Episode III being good. i don't completely understand/believe Anakin turning to the dark side. up until Windu's death, it seemed like there was going to be some really amazing, complex deception. he was getting pushed around by everyone, he was making decisions he was unsure about (Dooku), but after Palpatine made it clear he was the bad guy when he destroyed Mace, Anakin had NO REASON not to know right from wrong. he even said "what have i done?" moments before deciding to call Sidious his master. the best i can figure now is he was a confused teenager who wanted to save his wife.. the decision to go to the dark side moments after Mace's death is way too sudden and conflicted for him to truly believe the Jedi are bad. his only clear motivation is saving Padme, but he never gets the powers he needed and she dies.. so why does he remain so loyal in the next episodes? he was willing to sacrifice his good self to save her. why stay bad after she's gone, even if it means Palpatine killing you? and then she's never mentioned again.
there were parts where i clutched my forehead in disapointment, but i've forgotten them already like a bad dream.
y'know what would've been ASTOUNDING? if right near the end, the special effects team went back to models.
RK's right about ET. the part of me that didn't care about anything anymore at that point wanted Yoda's pod to blast into the sky and make that ET spaceship-rainbow.
funny things:
- Obi-Wan opening a door with a button, then closing it with the force.
- Obi-Wan standing in the door of the ship just before the Padme choking. it had the rhythm of an alanthebox movie.
- the idea of people building buildings on a lava planet.
- DARTH SlDIOUS: I have waited a long time for this moment, my little green friend. At last, the Jedi are no more.
YODA: Not if anything I have to say about it, Lord Sidious.
YODA uses the Force to throw DARTH SIDIOUS back,
and Sidious knocks over this really big, bulky chair. it was like the finest America's Funniest Home Video ever. it was the most amazing physical comedy. an old man in a hood falls backwards over this giant chair. i can't explain it in words.
- PADME: Anakin, all I want is your love.
ANAKIN: Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that.
i watched the New Hope commentary recently and Lucas was surprisingly still very knowledgable and insightful about why it's so amazing. one thing he brought up, which i never thought about as a kid and forgot with the prequel trilogy was his intention that the audience would be thrust into a place where they don't quite know what's happened before and no one takes any time to explain how everything works or why the empire is in control or whatever. giving episode IV, V, and VI a context negates that wonderful premise. that mystery is part of what made Vader such an awesome villain.
i wish he had stayed that awesome.
The movie does struggle to make a connection with dialogue. However, I think it works despite that shortcoming.
Personally, I think they could have made Episodes 1 & 2 a single movie. Then take Episode III and make it two parts. I was disappointed by the quick sequence of Jedi dying toward the end. It seemed very rushed and I felt like we could have made more of a connection with all of them given more time.
Padme: "I've lost the will to live!"
Terrible..
It's still great though. It is a spectacular feast for the eyes and ears.
Episode I is on tv this afternoon and Im looking forward to seeing it again for the first time in about four years. Particulalrly in light of what you said about the intergration of puppets, Bonanzataz. The fact that the prequels feel so completely different to the originals is largely because of their effects strategies, you're right. Is it one of those Jaws things, though - where had it have been working more often we might have lost some of the great character scenes and moments with Quint, Hooper and Brody? Was it just the "limitations" at the time that stopped Lucas from making the originals(quoting Spaced) a "jumped up firework display of a toy advert"
um, what the hell was general grievous?
the accent? the smokers cough? droids don't have lungs, do they? was that just crockety machinery whirring through some sort of human diaphragm? if so, it was poorly explained.
and what of the walk? it just doesn't make sense that a machine could stride like that. the screws and bolts would have to be like, made of jello.
also, what the hell was obi-wan's tropical-green braying gecko? it belonged in the life aquatic. i half-expected obi-wan to turn to the clones, "go get some hot milk."
whatever. the movie was mainly entertaining.
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picolas, I agree with you about the reasons why Anakin turned bad and why does he continue after Padme's death. But its obvious that by then he has nowhere else to go. Everyone he knows is death. Also, by the time he is about to fight Obi Wan, he forgot the reason why he even turned to the dark side besides Padme's health. He talks about being the Emperor.
Then I guess the reason why she is not mentioned again is because Episode 4 starts almost 20 years after 3 ended, so by then there is very little left of Anakin. It all starts coming back with the appearence of Luke.
Ultrahip, Grevious was an outdated version of Darth Vader. He wasnt so powerful, but he was a Sith, and he probably had an accident and was reconstructed as a droid. But they show how he had heart and lungs and everything under the metal. They show his transofrmation or history in the Clone Wars I think.
NOTE: if ur not writing long thought-out reviews like picol, bonz, rk, or at least responding to them, ur talking to urself in this thread. so far they hav all spoken truth, and the best discussions are coming out of their points. just a heads up for those joining us late.
andyk's explanation of grevious just now reminded me of what is so great about the original movies. basically what bonz said, and this pico part:
Quote from: picolbugthe audience would be thrust into a place where they don't quite know what's happened before and no one takes any time to explain how everything works or why the empire is in control or whatever. giving episode IV, V, and VI a context negates that wonderful premise. that mystery is part of what made Vader such an awesome villain.
the prequels have lost the feeling of mythology. which is what ur describing. that andyk had to explain what the hell grevious was just proves ur last sentence, the prequels themselves present the problem of having no wonder ahead, only a fog behind the characters.
the more i think about it, the more the star wars saga would work better as a bedtime story.
I was wondering why there was a fucking coughing robot.
To go with the idea of the prequels as the 'fact behind the mythology', has there ever been a film or series of films to both exhibit mythology and explain it, and have it all still work? I know this is a broad question, but...
a film trilogy like the matrix works the same as star wars. The first Matrix was shrouded in myth, mystic cities like Zion, under-the-table handshakes with Cypher and Agent Smith, etc. Then, here comes Reloaded and Revolutions explaining the fun away from everything, and crapping everything up. My roommate thinks they were ruined due to a lack of creative control on the part of producers. This flies in the face of 'independent' thinking in cinema, where the director should have control. However, if given control, Lucas and the Wachowskis make movies that don't touch the originals.
Now, should a story like the prequels have even been told in the first place? I think the story is incredibly interesting, a chosen one falling from grace into evil. That's a killer fucking story. But Lucas has just told it poorly, so very poorly. I think this guy is given the benefit of the doubt way too much, people are far too forgiving, these movies have no impact, emotionally.
I enjoyed it, but definitely agree there are some...issues.
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For example, what the hell was up with the scene where skywalker finds out that palpatine is the sith lord? He pulls his light saber and stuff, they talk and palpatine says he can help him save his wife, then it cuts to obi wan i think, then back to skywalker telling windu about palpatine. Um, so, how exactly did that go 'wait here, sith lord, i'm going to tell mace windu about this'. It felt like they couldn't think of a good enough reason for skywalker to leave him there, so they just distracted us with something else and hoped we wouldn't notice.
I also agree that skywalkers turn to the dark side was way to sudden and not motivated. when mace windu dies and the emperor tells skywalker soemthing to the effect of 'well, i don't actually know how to cheat death, but im sure i can figure it out', it felt like skywalker should have cut his head off. i think they should have played more on skywalkers lust for power to turn him rather then some trumped up desire to save padme. (btw, natalie portman was way underused as the stay at home wife in this one).
The death of all the jedi could have been better. since episode 2, it occured to me that all the jedi would have to be killed in epi 3, so i was expecting these crazy battles. while it was sad and dramatic to see them all get betrayed like that, they all fell way too easily. it would have been cooler to see the jedi come very close to making it out alive, but not quite making it rather then just get shot in the back. can't they sense when these things are going to happen?
Also, what was with the battle between yoda and the emperor. yoda falls down the shaft thing, he runs away and says he has to go into exile. Um, feel like trying again, maybe? It really cheapened the image of yoda for me. before this film, i would have expected yoda to die rather then leave the emperor in charge. I understand they had to set things up for the first three films, but making him give up that easily jsut ruined it for me.
On a positive note, i was really happy with the battle between obi wan and skywalker. it was as dramatic as i hoped it would have been. Seeing how they handled some of the other stuff, i was afraid they would trivialized it, but it worked well.
Best moment: yoda walking into the emperors chamber and throwing those two guards against the wall, knocking them out.
Worst moment: Vader's big 'noooooo!' when he hears that padmes dead.
Most dramatic moment: Obi Wan's 'You were the chosen one!', followed by skywalkers 'I hate you!'.
Cheasy forced moment: 'Wipe the protocol droids memory' (convenient and uncalled for. at least change it to 'Wipe the protocols droids memory. He's seen to much').
Bold statement on my part: Lucas is not a very good director. I mean, look at the two best Star Wars film, epi. 5 and 6, the only two that weren't directed by him. I thought he had decided to leave epi.3 to some else? What happened?
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkMy roommate thinks they were ruined due to a lack of creative control on the part of producers. This flies in the face of 'independent' thinking in cinema, where the director should have control. However, if given control, Lucas and the Wachowskis make movies that don't touch the originals.
interesting theory. especially because Lucas says on the Moviefone UnScripted thing...
"When I did Episode I, there were a lot of people around in various departments that were very upset. They said i was going to destory the series because nobody wanted to see a movie about a 9 year old boy. I'm sure if I had been at a studio they wouldnt have let me do that. I'm sure a lot of the fans might've appreciated that. But I wanted to tell the story of Anakin and I wanted to start it with him as a 9 year old boy. Even though it wasnt the most popular decision, it was my decision. It was the way I wanted to do it."damn, who would've thought studio interference COULD've been a good thing?
also:
"I don't like beginnings. I like to cut right into the middle of the action. I dont like to do the exposition part. BUT, if you start in Episode IV you still have to write the backstory, the exposition in order to know where you're going. You do a little profile on each of the characters: who they are, where they came from, what their feelings are about things. And in this case the politcal atmosphere of the Republic and the Empire. And that really was the backstory. When I finished Star Wars, (ROTJ ) I figured that was it. I never expected to turn the backstory into a movie. But, as time went on and i realized the icon of the evil darth vader so overwhelmed this character. that the idea that he is actually a tragic character, its there, but it got lost. Overwhelmed I should say. So by going back and telling this story, the Darth Vader story, the whole story from the very beginning i was able to get the full range of all the things that wer going on and how they fit together." he says right there, he doesnt like beginnings or exposition. which is, you know EP'S I & II!!! hmm... i wonder why they don't seem as interesting...
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: JTMbesides, he was still technically Anakin after he turned into Vadar.........
It's the soul of the person (Jedi), not the physicality.
George confirms macs theory on why its hayden at the end of ROTJ...
"The idea was that your inner person would go back to where we left off. before you turned to the dark side. So when you go back to the good side of the force, that its your former persona that survives. Not your Darth Vader persona." http://movies.channel.aol.com/feature/starwars/unscripted.adp
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Cheasy forced moment: 'Wipe the protocol droids memory' (convenient and uncalled for. at least change it to 'Wipe the protocols droids memory. He's seen to much').
I was awake for that part. It ends with an iris-in on C-3P0's face. It's so awful and cheesy as hell, it looks like a Looney Tunes ending, I expected there to be low-brass doing a chromatic whaa-whaa-whaaaaaaaaaa.
I believe Lucas could have combined elements of Episode 2 & 3 as a trilogy on their own, without needing to explain how little Anakin grows up. There is a continuity problem with the actors he chose for child Anakin and the young man. I remember in Episode 2, Padme turns to him and she says,
"Ani? You've grown up!"
It's so awkward.
Episode 1 could easily have told the story of Anakin's childhood in flashbacks. Actually, it would have worked perfectly with the moment he goes and rescues his mother in Episode 2. All they'd need is a little 20 minute segment to give us a flashback of their lives as slaves before he goes on a killing spree.
How about Ewan Mcgregor as Obi-Wan? Now that all three films are behind us, was he cast well? I'm not sure I believe the old man is the same person who Christensen portrays.
Also, I was hoping to see a small Yoda moment where he goes into exile on Dagobah. Instead all we get is a small line telling us that he has to go. Kinda lame..
They could have easily made the war with the Wookies much, much cooler and spent more time with Chewbacca. Everything just felt way too rushed. I love the film, don't get me wrong. I had a similar experience with Matrix Reloaded as I did with this installment. Both are great films mired down with some really crap dialogue and awkward pacing.
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Cheasy forced moment: 'Wipe the protocol droids memory' (convenient and uncalled for. at least change it to 'Wipe the protocols droids memory. He's seen to much').
It's a given that he's seen too much, THAT would be unnecessary. We already know that they need to protect the location of Luke and the fact that he has a twin sister. What IS cool about it is the fact that R2's memory isn't erased. In the originology, R2 always knows what's going on and it even seems that he's trying to explain the past to 3PO, that's why he's always asking R2 "What the fuck are you talking about?".
Quote from: RecceBold statement on my part: Lucas is not a very good director. I mean, look at the two best Star Wars film, epi. 5 and 6, the only two that weren't directed by him. I thought he had decided to leave epi.3 to some else? What happened?
I don't think that's very bold. I think it's commonly accepted. He WAS a good story teller, never a good director... also New Hope is better than Jedi.
Quote from: Pubrickthe actor playing luke's dad, Joel Edgerton
I'm sorry, the geek in me has to correct this. If by dad you mean "father figure," then okay, but Anakin is Luke's dad. He's taken in by Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru.
Ahhhhhh... that felt better.
oh snap.
the person in me has to say that's what he meant.
It was bugging me. I admit, I have OCSWD (Obsessive-Compulsive Star Wars Disorder).
No, you don't.
No, I don't.
You can go about your business.
I'll go about my business.
Move along.
Move along... Move along.
so how much time passes in the film?
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i don't think Padme' has any kind of pregnant belly at the beginning and then she is huge and has twins.
9 months? She has a kinda-belly in when Anakin meets her, so let's say that's 3-4, it could be 5 months then.
Quote from: MacGuffinbut Anakin is Luke's dad.
woah,
spoilers!
Quote from: Gamblor Posts Drunk9 months? She has a kinda-belly in when Anakin meets her, so let's say that's 3-4, it could be 5 months then.
to me it felt like a pretty compressed time, so that's why it feels a bit odd to me.
Spoiler question
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In RotJ, Leia talks about knowing her mother when she was young (something about her mother being young and sad all the time). Apparently, either a) Leia was lying or b) Lucas screws up continuity again.
Quote from: SHAFTRSpoiler question
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In RotJ, Leia talks about knowing her mother when she was young (something about her mother being young and sad all the time). Apparently, either a) Leia was lying or b) Lucas screws up continuity again.
Or c) she didn't know Padme was her real mom.
Talking about the Queen of Alderaan, Bail Organa's wife.
Either that, or Force-assisted memories from her moment of birth.
'Star Wars' earns $108.5 million in 1st US weekend
The final installment of George Lucas' "Star Wars" series grossed about $108.5 million during its first weekend of release across North America, the second-best three-day opening of all time, according to studio estimates issued on Sunday.
The record is held by "Spider-Man," which opened to almost $115 million in 2002. "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith" narrowly pipped "Shrek 2," which bowed with $108 million in 2004. Final data will be released on Monday.
Since its release after midnight on Thursday, the "Star Wars" film has sold $158.5 million worth of tickets in the United States and Canada. It was released by Twentieth Century Fox, a unit of News Corp.
i was watching episode iv today (on my unaltered laserdiscs which i'm currently transferring to dvd. those disc flips are damned annoying and i'm fuckin' bored and dorky) and found something i like about the prequels that i don't know if anybody pointed out. in episode iv, you have peter cushing playing grand moff tarkin. in the prequels, you have christopher lee playing dooku. brilliant.
Quote from: bonanzatazwhile the jawas in empire may have moved funny b/c they were animated using stop motion
i meant tauntauns. can't believe nobody pointed that out.
i'm thinking of watching the prequels again soon to understand what lucas was going for. it's been a while since i've seen phantom menace and i only saw episode ii once.
ALSO! i was just looking this up and thought it would be interesting to post, if it has not been already (which i'mm sure it has, but whatevs).
BUDGETS:
episode iv: $11million
episode v: $18million
episode vi: $32.5million
episode i: $115million
episode ii: $120million
episode iii: $115million
discuss...
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episode iii: $115million
discuss...
I wonder how big Lucas' cut of the final box office is.
Quote from: bonanzatazALSO! i was just looking this up and thought it would be interesting to post, if it has not been already (which i'mm sure it has, but whatevs).
BUDGETS:
episode iv: $11million
episode v: $18million
episode vi: $32.5million
episode i: $115million
episode ii: $120million
episode iii: $115million
discuss...
he went back to his roots in ep iii.
Gary Oldman turned the role down for union reasons. I think a guy named Matthew Woods did the voice...possibly the same Matthew Woods who was one of the sound designers on the film...?
Yea, you're right Ghostboy. I realize now why the voice sucked so much ass. You're also right about Matt Woods being part of the sound team. Oldman would do a much better job, and the overly dramatic droid fits him perfectly.
Childhood nostalgia is sooo strong. I'm so disappointed in the entire... six-ology. And Jurassic Park... I'm afraid what will happen if I watch Gremlins again.
The Force may - or may not - be with Burger King's latest Star Wars-themed Kids Meals.
One day after a record-shattering weekend for Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, an advocacy group is asking Burger King to stop the tie-in of its Kids Meals with the film because it is rated PG-13.
The same group, Dove Foundation, got McDonald's 13 years ago to apologize for "confusion" from its promotion of PG-13 Batman Returns with Happy Meals. Now, it's going after BK's latest Kids Meal promotion - targeted at kids ages 4 to 9. The meals feature characters from Sith or other Star Wars films.
"When Burger King puts that in a Kids Meal, there's an implicit endorsement of the movie," says Dick Rolfe, chairman of Dove Foundation.
This is no small matter. Product licensing and promotion is a $100 million annual business. Since the first Star Wars was released in 1977, the six films have racked up almost $9 billion in merchandise sales and product promotions.
For Burger King, the stakes are huge. The No. 2 burger chain is in the 16th month of a major rebound. The Star Wars promotion, dubbed "Choose Your Destiny," is the 50-year-old chain's first global promotion.
Burger King officials insist the promotion isn't specific to the latest film (the others are rated PG), but one that relates to the chain's long-term relationship with the Star Wars franchise. Executives point out that only four of the 31 Kids Meal toys are specific to Sith.
The toys "clearly celebrate not just one film but the entire Star Wars saga," says Edna Johnson, a Burger King spokeswoman. "The reception at our restaurants and from our customers has been overwhelmingly positive."
But Rolfe says "the tie-in is very specific to this film." Wrappers around Kids Meal toys all promote Sith, he notes.
Dove Foundation, a non-sectarian family advocacy group, sent an overnight letter to Burger King last Thursday requesting the promotion be stopped. It also conducted a national phone survey of 889 adults and says 83% felt the promotion was not appropriate for kids.
Another critic says the fault isn't that of Burger King but Star Wars creator George Lucas. "It's irresponsible of George Lucas to OK the marketing around this PG-13 movie to young children," says Susan Linn, a Harvard psychologist and author of Consuming Kids: The Hostile Takeover of Childhood.
"Star Wars is broader than a single movie," says Lynn Fox, a LucasFilm spokeswoman. "Parents know that Star Wars has been a positive influence."
i've been looking and looking and can't find it, can someone give me the link to the lars von trier/george lucus article from cannes again? i think mac made the post.
-sl-
In the Cannes thread: http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7348&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
i watched A New Hope last night. i forget what happens to Anakin's lightsaber at the end of RotS. Obi Wan tells Luke that he has a lightsaber that his father wanted to give him, and this doesn't seem to fit with what i remember of the ending of RotS. does anyone remember?
Obi-Wan grabs it off of the molten ground of Mustafar right before his "you were the chosen one" lnes.
Quote from: bigideasi watched A New Hope last night. i forget what happens to Anakin's lightsaber at the end of RotS. Obi Wan tells Luke that he has a lightsaber that his father wanted to give him, and this doesn't seem to fit with what i remember of the ending of RotS. does anyone remember?
But Anakin wanted Luke to have it when he was old enough... from a certain point of view.
Imagine if you were a yokel with two kooky droids that lead you to some crazy hermit, who told you that your father was responsible for the destruction of the only law-abiding body of the galaxy and gave you a glowing dildo to save the rest of the universe from the galactic empire's tyranny. how would you react to that?
Quote from: TryskadekafobiaImagine if you were a yokel with two kooky droids that lead you to some crazy hermit, who told you that your father was responsible for the destruction of the only law-abiding body of the galaxy and gave you a glowing dildo to save the rest of the universe from the galactic empire's tyranny. how would you react to that?
story of my life.
Quote from: TryskadekafobiaImagine if you were a yokel with two kooky droids that lead you to some crazy hermit, who told you that your father was responsible for the destruction of the only law-abiding body of the galaxy and gave you a glowing dildo to save the rest of the universe from the galactic empire's tyranny. how would you react to that?
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omg p. i'm dying here. hahahahahahaha.
This was so much better than I and II, but I agree that this doesn't mean it's a good movie.
There were still many huge things in the way. The dialogue. Hayden Christensen's voice. The aforementioned mystery draining.
And I too had a problem with Anakin's transformation. I think the primary reason I couldn't connect with it is that it isn't actually shown. All the way up to the point he joins Palpatine, he absolutely recognizes wrongness of what he's done and is doing. So how does he end up believing that it's right? It's made out to be a conscious decision, and I think that's where the problem begins. Turning to the dark side singularly to save Padme's life makes no sense. How stupid does he have to be to fall into such an obvious trap? Sure, his judgment is a bit clouded, but this is just common sense. And I was not convinced that his jealousy for Padme (since it couldn't have been love) was sufficient motivation for him to make such a sacrifice. That wasn't at all established until the heavy-handed "You're trying to take her from me!" scene. Where was that before? It doesn't add up. And apparently he made his full transformation to the dark side when he went on the killing spree in the Jedi temple, but we don't really see it. I would have liked to see him kill some of those children. That's all I ask for.
I have one complaint about the CGI. Things (be they human or droid) fall too fast. It happened once during the first meeting with General Greivous, and a few other times. And remember when Obi-wan and Qui-Gon jump like 30 feet down early in Episode I? Talk about greivous.
And then there's the time paradox. He turns to the dark side because Padme is going to die, but she dies because he turns to the dark side. But that's kind of funny.
I strongly disliked Padme's 80s hair, though her marginally better dialogue slightly lessened the impact.
The highlights were Hayden Christensen's faces and Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan in general. That was seriously a great character in this movie, though I'm not sure why.
The last several minutes (after the new Darth Vader does the awkward wiggling thing while screaming "noooo") were pretty magical. It's kind of smart like Million Dollar Baby in that way.
What did you think about Palpatine? Despite the flaws of the other two films, his takeover of the Republic is rather brilliantly plotted - something that doesn't quite become readily apparent until this film. I read a review that said, no matter how bad the writing in these three are, the plotting is actually far stronger than the original trilogy, and I think I might have to agree. All of the material with Palpatine was uniformly brilliant - perhaps that's where Tom Stoppard did some of his uncredited rewrite, but much credit must also go to Ian McDiarmid, who is just amazing here (the scene in the Opera House is a real stand-out).
I'd also like to mention that it was wonderful to see the medical droids 21B and FX7 operating on Vader there at the end. These are the same model droids who care for Luke in the Bacta tank in ESB, and build his mechanical hand.
I haven't had much to say about this movie because I just love it too much, unequivocally, wholeheartedly, etc. I know it has it's problems, but damn if I'm not perfectly willing to overlook them for everything it does right.
Also, to whomever asked about what's different in the DLP versions...the answer is nothing. I guess that was some misinformation, regarding the Dagobah scene.
Quote from: GhostboyWhat did you think about Palpatine? Despite the flaws of the other two films, his takeover of the Republic is rather brilliantly plotted - something that doesn't quite become readily apparent until this film. I read a review that said, no matter how bad the writing in these three are, the plotting is actually far stronger than the original trilogy, and I think I might have to agree. All of the material with Palpatine was uniformly brilliant - perhaps that's where Tom Stoppard did some of his uncredited rewrite, but much credit must also go to Ian McDiarmid, who is just amazing here (the scene in the Opera House is a real stand-out).
The plotting
was pretty genius up to the point where it required Anakin's transformation (which many of us don't believe).
Sometimes I just wished the characters would shut up and let the images and sounds speak. That's why the last few minutes worked so well. Do you think Lucas could have made this a slower-paced, more sensory (but more magical and convincing... and
serious) trilogy?
If he had directed two movies prior to Episode I, so he'd had the time to get into the groove he is now, then yes. They'd have still been similar, plot-wise (and they wouldn't necessarily have been slower, because he's always been a speed freak) but probably would have carried much more weight and been more satisfying overall. The final moments of Revenge Of The Sith, along with several sequences earlier in the film, harken all the way back to his THX days, and the brilliance that was so palpable in that early work.
There's one missed opportunity that would have made Anakin's switch far more believable (and kept if from hinging on more than just Padme). If, after he had helped kill Mace Windu (an act of impetuousness, which is understandable), Palpatine had convinced him that he would be arrested and removed from the Jedi Order, that would have been great. Not only would the Padme thing still be an issue, but he'd be ostracized from the only other thing that matters to him.
Still, I bought it.
i think a MAJOR missed opportunity to make Anakin's switch more believable would have been if Anakin had reported back to Mace and LIED about Palpatine being the Sith lord. skeptical Mace would still confront Palpatine and the rest of that scene would've played out the same. that little bit of deceptiveness would've made Anakin's turn and submissiveness to the Emperor much less sudden. that, or Lucas could've let the actors act.
Quote from: lamasthat, or Lucas could've let the actors act.
that's pretty much what it comes down to.
they didn't even need to act that much, the original trilogy was no nashville. just a
little acting would suffice, but he couldn't even give us that..
We can be thankful he didn't shoot all three films at the same time as in Lord of the Rings.
Quote from: MyxomatosisWe can be thankful he didn't shoot all three films at the same time as in Lord of the Rings.
Yes... He wouldn't have had the benefit of Jar-Jar backlash, for one. Plus the Natalie Portman getting older thing wouldn't have been there.
And it's so true that Lucas didn't let the actors act. Their performances seem so undeveloped... It feels like they went with the first or second takes.
Even first or second takes should be better. It's like he didn't hand them their lines until about 5 minutes before action.
alright, pretty much everyone's already posted their reviews and thoughts, so let's get geeky up in hurrr:
anyone else disappointed with General Grievous? he was supposed to be known as the greatest hand-to-hand fighter in the galaxy and killer of many Jedi. this was really just glossed over. his 4 lightsaber buzzsaw act was pretty slick but how the hell are we supposed to believe Obi-Wan managed to get in there to chop off two of his hands? for those who questioned why he had the cough, I assume we're all to know that Mace had force-crushed his ribcage when Palpatine was abducted in the last Clone Wars cartoon episode.
so who was Sifo-Dyas as mentioned in Ep. II? when Obi-Wan reports on his findings on Kamino, Mace and Yoda look at each other like Sifo-Dyas was a bad secret that just got out or something.
so Qui-Gon Jinn wasn't involved in any of the shadiness behind Anakin's finding/birth? i was definitely expecting a direct answer to this and the Sifo-Dyas question after watching Ep. II last weekend.
is it to be implied that Darth Plagueis was Palpatine's master and that Anakin was "created" by one of them? which one?
I think we're meant to understand that Darth Plagueis (great name) slipped Anakin's mom some roofies, then shagged her rotten.
Quote from: lamasis it to be implied that Darth Plagueis was Palpatine's master and that Anakin was "created" by one of them? which one?
From Entertainment Weekly:
In Phantom Menace, we learned that Anakin was immanculately conceived, or at least didn't have a dad. Does Sith clarify the situation?Maybe. In Sith, Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) tells Anakin the legend of Darth Plagueis, who could create life by manupulating the Force, and who was killed by his apprentice, whom Palpatine never names. Is the apprentice Palpatine? Did he use the Force to get Anakin's mom pregnant? "I certainly leave it open for you to think about," says McDiarmid. "I think maybe I
do play that."
Quote from: lamasanyone else disappointed with General Grievous? he was supposed to be known as the greatest hand-to-hand fighter in the galaxy and killer of many Jedi. this was really just glossed over. his 4 lightsaber buzzsaw act was pretty slick but how the hell are we supposed to believe Obi-Wan managed to get in there to chop off two of his hands? for those who questioned why he had the cough, I assume we're all to know that Mace had force-crushed his ribcage when Palpatine was abducted in the last Clone Wars cartoon episode.
I was certainly hoping for more fight style from him. As it is, he ran away a lot. The cough thing didn't bother me too much as he seemed like a bio-mech type creature and I knew about the force crush from Clone Wars. But the whole Obi-Wan thing kind of bugged me. He's always been lucky though and he's obviously got skills to pull the Babe-Ruth-pointing-out-homer thing he did with Anakin at the end.
Quote from: lamasso who was Sypho-Dias as mentioned in Ep. II? when Obi-Wan reports on his findings on Kamino, Mace and Yoda look at each other like Sypho-Dias was a bad secret that just got out or something.
I thought he was a former Jedi Master who died way before the clone order came through and it was Palpatine who ordered it under his posthumous name.
Quote from: lamasso Qui-Gon Jinn wasn't involved in any of the shadiness behind Anakin's finding/birth? i was definitely expecting a direct answer to this and the Sypho-Dias question after watching Ep. II last weekend.
Well, the answer to that would be...
Quote from: lamasis it to be implied that Darth Plagueis was Palpatine's master and that Anakin was "created" by one of them? which one?
It was implied that Palpatine created Anakin by controlling the midiclorian (sp?) level in his mother which her learned from his former master, Plagueis. All for the sake of his master plan.
First Casting for Star Wars TV?
Farscape's Matthew Newton could be it.
Australia's Sunday News Herald and Moviehole report that George Lucas is shopping in the Land Down Under for talent to cast in his upcoming Star Wars television series.
One name that's come up is Matthew Newton, a 28-year-old actor who appeared in Queen of the Damned and had a recurring role as Ka Jothee in the sci-fi TV series Farscape. George Lucas, who will be closely involved with the new Star Wars spin-off, has allegedly done an "availability check" on the young thespian to see if he's available for a 100-episode run.
Lucas's own relationship with Newton goes back to Attack of the Clones, when he visited Skywalker Ranch and auditioned for the part of Anakin Skywalker. He lost out to Hayden Christensen, of course, but that doesn't mean Lucas wasn't impressed; in fact, he may have been the director's second choice.
Also, given Lucas's production facilities in Australia and his penchant for populating the Star Wars universe with Brits and Aussies, Matthew Newton is definitely a name to watch.
100 episodes!!! i thought this was gonna be like a one-time miniseries deal with about 10 episodes at most.
Quote from: RaikusQuote from: lamasanyone else disappointed with General Grievous? he was supposed to be known as the greatest hand-to-hand fighter in the galaxy and killer of many Jedi. this was really just glossed over. his 4 lightsaber buzzsaw act was pretty slick but how the hell are we supposed to believe Obi-Wan managed to get in there to chop off two of his hands? for those who questioned why he had the cough, I assume we're all to know that Mace had force-crushed his ribcage when Palpatine was abducted in the last Clone Wars cartoon episode.
I was certainly hoping for more fight style from him. As it is, he ran away a lot. The cough thing didn't bother me too much as he seemed like a bio-mech type creature and I knew about the force crush from Clone Wars. But the whole Obi-Wan thing kind of bugged me. He's always been lucky though and he's obviously got skills to pull the Babe-Ruth-pointing-out-homer thing he did with Anakin at the end.
I think he was originally supposed to be more of a badass. In the Making Of book (which is wonderful and surprisingly insightful, for a Lucasfilm sanctioned product, much like the documentary on Phantom Menace), they suggest that it was sort of a last minute change to give him more personality, and that it drove all the animators nuts because they had to re-do a lot of the work they'd already done on him. I think it works. I thought he was really boring on the Cartoon Network show (I only saw the first season, though), and his slimy cowardice made him more than just another Darth Maul clone. He sure was easy to dispatch, though.
Quote from: metroshaneEven first or second takes should be better. It's like he didn't hand them their lines until about 5 minutes before action.
many directors have used this technique to great avail.
well uh...not george lucas.
Quote from: GhostboyQuote from: RaikusQuote from: lamasanyone else disappointed with General Grievous? he was supposed to be known as the greatest hand-to-hand fighter in the galaxy and killer of many Jedi. this was really just glossed over. his 4 lightsaber buzzsaw act was pretty slick but how the hell are we supposed to believe Obi-Wan managed to get in there to chop off two of his hands? for those who questioned why he had the cough, I assume we're all to know that Mace had force-crushed his ribcage when Palpatine was abducted in the last Clone Wars cartoon episode.
I was certainly hoping for more fight style from him. As it is, he ran away a lot. The cough thing didn't bother me too much as he seemed like a bio-mech type creature and I knew about the force crush from Clone Wars. But the whole Obi-Wan thing kind of bugged me. He's always been lucky though and he's obviously got skills to pull the Babe-Ruth-pointing-out-homer thing he did with Anakin at the end.
I think he was originally supposed to be more of a badass. In the Making Of book (which is wonderful and surprisingly insightful, for a Lucasfilm sanctioned product, much like the documentary on Phantom Menace), they suggest that it was sort of a last minute change to give him more personality, and that it drove all the animators nuts because they had to re-do a lot of the work they'd already done on him. I think it works. I thought he was really boring on the Cartoon Network show (I only saw the first season, though), and his slimy cowardice made him more than just another Darth Maul clone. He sure was easy to dispatch, though.
From Entertainment Weekly's Secrets Of The Sith:
General Grievous is Darth Vader's daddy. Kinda. A Jedi-killing four-armed alien/android with a skeletal canine mug, who twirls lightsabers like deadly rotary blades, the computer-generated Grievous falls in the storied Star Wars tradition of rich secondary characters. Lucas originally wanted a powerfully erect posture for the 'droid, but decided during production to change course and have him rendered hunched and sickly. He even has a chronic cough. Coleman says the idea was to foreshadow Star Wars' more famous half-man/half-machine: ''He's like the alpha version of Vader.'' Grievous' vampiric movements were inspired by the German horror classic Nosferatu, one of many monster-movie references in Sith. (Vader's entrance is so Frankenstein, you may find yourself inspired to shout, ''It's alive!'')
yeah, that entrance and corresponding sound is comical
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Well...finally saw it, I absolutely love the film, can't really add much to what has already been said, but here are some thoughts.
Quote from: Pubrick-the best part, darth vader when he finds out that his choke led to padme's death. devastated, he yells "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" with his arms outstretched, i had to stop myself from falling off my seat with laughter, all that was left was for him to get on his knees and hit the ground. wow. HILARIOUS.
Hahaha, exactly, that noooooooo ranks as one of the best noooo's in movie history.
Quote from: Stefen Posts DrunkerGeek mode on/
Spoilers....
Ranking the Jedis and Siths.
1. Darth Sidius -
2. Yoda -
3. Luke -
4. Darth Vader -
5. the Count -
6. Mace -
7. Obi Wan - not the greatest fighter. what he lacks in skill he makes up for in patience and understanding. He beat Darth Maul and Anakin even though those two were supposedly stronger than him. Hes got the most heart out of all of them, something I feel jedis lack.
8. Darth Maul -
9. Qui gon -
Geek mode off/
Good, I only disgree with Obi Wan's ranking, he belongs in the top five, he is a great fighter, he might only lack of
malice/rage others have; in a way he is the new Yoda, calm, wise a true Jedi if you ask me.
I also liked the way the whole Code 66 that Sidius orders was executed, couldn't help to feel bad for the Jedis, these guards were many years with them and with that simply order just got rid of them, and later the climax in all of this was when the now Vader enters the Jedi counsel and kills all those younglins. Damn!
I thought some ppl were exaggerating when saying this one was the darkest, yep it's the darker one.
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Good, I only disgree with Obi Wan's ranking, he belongs in the top five, he is a great fighter, he might only lack of malice/rage others have; in a way he is the new Yoda, calm, wise a true Jedi if you ask me.
absolutely, he's the best of the jedi bunch. he carries the whole six episodes, me thinks.
This is awesome: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2122/
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Lucasfilm tentatively plans to debut Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith on DVD on 11/1. This would seem to be corroborated by a report from The Force.net today that indicates an 11/1 DVD release for Episode III, along with a new 3-title box set of the prequel trilogy and a 6-title box set of the complete saga. We can't confirm the box set information at the moment, so take all of the above with a grain of salt until official announcements are made.
best one so far:
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Okay, here it is. I bought a bootleg dvd of episode 3 in the bronx last week and it's pretty much a screener, meaning great quality. I've been spending time with it every day, and im gonna say it. This is the best one, out of all 6, i gave it lots of time to digest. I mean, you remember when you were little and you used to get those spine tingling moments in movies, where it's just the greatest thing you have seen? This movie has that. How can you not get pumped when Mace and the other jedis go to arrest Palpatine, and you know what happens. It's just a great moment in movie watching. Then that's just the beginning. Obi-Wan and Yoda have to brave it all, they are the last. Yoda says to Obi Wan after Obi Wan watches the hologram of Anakin slaughtering baby jedis, "Destroy the sith we must" man, that gets me. These two dudes are the last, it's up to them. You know they are going to fail, but you hope against hope that maybe, just maybe they can pull it off, and they almost do. Obi Wan tells Yoda at that moment "Send me to KILL Palpatine, I can not kill Anakin, he is like my brother" And Yoda says "Strong enough you are not to defeat this sith lord" I mean, Yoda wants him to, you can tell deep down that Yoda knows he isn't even strong enough to defeat Palpatine, seeing as how he wasn't able to tell that Palpatine was the sith lord they had all been looking for, little guy has no time to prepare, but still, he knows it's on himself to defeat Palpatine. Then when Anakin is reunited with Padme on the lava planet, that's it right there. The dialogue to me was spot on. I really felt that Anakin felt what he had done and was doing was right, then Obi-Wan reveals himself, and Anakin chokes the one person he turned to the dark side for, and then says to obi-wan, "You turned her against me!" Man, that doesn't get you? These two guys have to fight to the death. And through all the action, it's nothing but tragic, Anakin is confident, he knows he can beat Obi-wan, and obi wan knows it too, but he knows hes gotta do what hes gotta do regardless of how hard and heartbreaking it may be to him. Then Yoda enters Palpatines chambers and knocks those guards out with a thrust of the hand, man, that was bad ass. Yoda don't want no part of Palpatine right now, and Palpatine knows it, but Yoda has to handle his business. Yoda exudes confidense, and at that time right before the epic match, Palpatine senses that Yoda has so much anger in him that he just might defeat him, Yoda has more darkside in him than Palpatine might, but Yoda knows how to control it to his advantage. Palpatine doesn't care. He says "Lord vader will become more powerful than either of us" cause he knows there is a chance he may fall. This battle intertwined with the Obi wan Anakin duel is the best. Palpatine hurling those seat things at Yoda and Yoda holding his saber waiting for the time to strike till he loses his saber. Yoda would have dominated Palpatine if he could have held on to his saber. It ends with Yoda making a narrow escape when Bail picks him up, and Yoda says "Into exile I must go, failed I have" That's hearbreaking, cause you know what happend the next 20 so years or whatever. Then back to obi wan and Anakin. These guys are going at it, with Obi saying "Anakin, I have failed you" This is all on Obi wan, he should have trained Anakin harder! He should have let him know!!! Obi wan knows this, and now not only is Obi wans life in danger, but everything around him for the people is in danger also. He must prevail, and he finally does, cutting off Anakins legs and an arm. This hurts Obi Wan more than anything in his life has, he can't even deal the death blow, he is so mad at Anakin, but he loves him so much, he tells him "You were the chosen one!!! It was said you would destroy the sith, not join them!!! Brind balance to the force, not leave it in darkness!!' He then grabs Anakins light sabre cause he knows it will come in use down the line. Anakin has the most heartbreaking look on his face as he's laying there, missing limbs, almost like he knows he fucked up. He doesn't know what else to do, he yells "I HATE YOU!!!" To obi-wan but obi want doesn't buy it. He knows Anakin doesn't hate him,, and at this moment, he realizes that Anakin does have good in him, and instead of dealing the death blow, he says "You were my brother Anakin, I loved you!" Anakin then catches fire, and Obi wan cringes as this happens, but still doesn't deal the death blow, cause he cares about Anakin too much, instead, he leaves him to the power of the force, and so Darth Vader is born. Yoda and Obi-Wan must go into exile now, till the time is right. God, how can you not love this movie? It had bad moments, but it had GREAT moments, we are lucky to have seen it.
Oh yea, spoilers.
Also, Im drunk, but I have wanted to post this all last week. Laugh if you must, I don't care.
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I got like, 1/3 of a way through that and the lines seriously just started blurring together. Please edit this into digestable paragraphs that fit accordingly to the food pyramid. Thank you.
GG NR20 next time.
Thats a long post. Can you highlight the important parts (if any) so I dont have to read it all? :)
yo! i liked your post stefen..its from the heart. w/ soem alcohol too. but its helps expressign easier. and after seeign this i pretty much agree w/ your opinions except. i like an new hope and jedi more....bu ti like ep. III more than empire.....:ducks:
Sorry guys, I started writing, and kept writing, and kept drinking and that came out. My bad.
Anyways, I really do feel that ep III is the best out of the 6. It just has too many cool parts in it for it not to be.
i just saw a bootleg of this on 34th st, if i'd known the quality was so good i would've gotten it!
the copy i have is good, its not a handheld. The only problem is it has a timer at the top since it was probably stolen while editing. But it's small and you forget about it after awhile.
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?Sorry guys, I started writing, and kept writing, and kept drinking and that came out. My bad.
Anyways, I really do feel that ep III is the best out of the 6. It just has too many cool parts in it for it not to be.
I actually thought that post was really good.
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?the copy i have is good, its not a handheld. The only problem is it has a timer at the top since it was probably stolen while editing. But it's small and you forget about it after awhile.
I have the same one. It was ok when I wanted to watch it again once, but it annoys me if I want to watch it again... I want a clean copy. They'll be out soon probably.
Quote from: BrazoliangeQuote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?Sorry guys, I started writing, and kept writing, and kept drinking and that came out. My bad.
Anyways, I really do feel that ep III is the best out of the 6. It just has too many cool parts in it for it not to be.
I actually thought that post was really good.
yeah, but ur Brazoliange..
My drunk post ruled. It was like when you are really drunk and in really love. "I love you man!! I don't know why we don't hang out more!!" but then it ended with the depressive part of being drunk "I don't care if you laugh at me, do what you will"
I thought that "nooooo" at the end was very funny. It was so spot-on cliche that I couldn't help but laugh. Hayden Christensen's performance was pretty bad. I liked most of the others, though Jimmy Smits was a joke. Ian McDiarmid was very good. The last 10-15 minutes were quite well-done. I too felt that Anakin's transition was not done too well. I'm not too familiar with the SW universe except for the basics, but this was definitely a better film than PM and AOTC.
Consider this tidbit seriously Rumor Mill-worthy, but an Italian online DVD retailer has posted possible early details on a little of what you can expect from Lucasfilm and Fox's DVD release of Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith in November. According to the site, look for the 2-disc set to include 2 behind-the-scenes featurettes/documentaries, 5 deleted scenes, a music video, theatrical trailers, 12 TV spots, a production photo gallery, DVD-ROM weblinks to an exclusive Star Wars.com site, an Episode III videogame trailer and a playable Battlefront II game demo. We suspect there will also be audio commentary. Watch for official details to emerge soon from Lucasfilm, with an anticipated street date for the release of either 11/1 or 11/8.
In other words, exactly what the other ones contained, feature for feature! Minus the wonderful full length doc on Ep.1.
Quote from: Ghostboythe wonderful full length doc on Ep.1.
it truly is the "That Moment" of bad movies. my favourite part is when George is explaining the movie to Spielberg in that big empty lot and Spielberg keeps messing with the droid arm and then Lucas is like "No y-" and it cuts to him explaining further and the arm is on the ground.
My favorite part is when the lights come up after the first rough cut screening and no one says anything. Everyone's afraid to say what they think, including George, who finally says "well, me might have gone too far."
mine is after the storm in tunisia where they're trying to find liam neeson's wig.
"'You wanna be in Star Wars?' they said. Too fucking right."
Quote from: picolasQuote from: Ghostboythe wonderful full length doc on Ep.1.
it truly is the "That Moment" of bad movies. my favourite part is when George is explaining the movie to Spielberg in that big empty lot and Spielberg keeps messing with the droid arm and then Lucas is like "No y-" and it cuts to him explaining further and the arm is on the ground.
Quote from: GhostboyMy favorite part is when the lights come up after the first rough cut screening and no one says anything. Everyone's afraid to say what they think, including George, who finally says "well, me might have gone too far."
Quote from: mogwaimine is after the storm in tunisia where they're trying to find liam neeson's wig.
Quote from: Just Withnail"'You wanna be in Star Wars?' they said. Too fucking right."
"jar jar is key", says lucas. not realising his idiotic CGI casting choice is only superceded by his idiotic CHILD ACTOR casting decision.. they're down to two kids for the role of young anakin. one who can hit all the right marks and one kid who is making shit up on the spot. Lucas even thinks out loud "this one hits the marks, this one doesn't". he goes with the second, and a piece of shit is born.
http://winterson.com/2005/06/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west.html
"They want to know him at fuck..."
Lucasfilm has FINALLY officially announced the DVD release of Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith. The 2-disc set will hit store shelves on 11/1, as we expected. Both anamorphic widescreen and full frame versions will be available, each with video mastered directly from the film's original digital master files. Audio will be Dolby Digital 5.1 EX. Extras are not yet fully announced, but we do know that you can expect audio commentary with George Lucas and members of the production team, a new feature-length documentary on the making of the film, 2 behind-the-scenes featurettes (one looks at Anakin Skywalker as "the chosen one" and the other deals with the film's stunt work), the 15-part Making Episode III web documentary and a number of newly-completed deleted scenes. You'll also get two playable levels of the Star Wars Battlefront II videogame (for Xbox we assume). We expect additional extras to include trailers and TV spots, photo galleries, etc. As we learned at Comic-Con, Lucasfilm has confirmed that a 6-film box set will be released eventually... but not in the immediate future (meaning not in 2005 or early 2006).
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Excellent... just in time for my birthday!
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Wow, Hayden's acting is bad even on the cover.
Quote from: KALExcellent... just in time for my birthday!
Me, too
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hideous coverart as usual.
I mean really? What is up with Lucasarts?
Seriously I dont have toys or go to conventions but I did grow up with the movies and I am really happy with the final movie. The acting is crap but the action is fantastic as well as the story. :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: EscapeismThe acting is crap but the action is fantastic as well as the story. :yabbse-thumbup:
And when you get right down to it... that's all that really matters.
Wal-Mart is going to be offering an exclusive with Lucasfilm & Fox's forthcoming Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith DVD (due on 11/1). If you buy the disc at Wal-Mart stores, you'll get a bonus disc called The Story of Star Wars. It includes the hour-long R2-D2 & C-3PO's Chronicles of Luke and Anakin Skywalker documentary. You can visit this page (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=4242488) at Wal-Mart for more. Here's a look at the artwork:
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Episode III DVD Details Revealed!
Jim Ward, Sr. Vice President of Lucasfilm, discusses the forthcoming Star Wars disc in elaborate detail.
On October 6, 2005, Jim Ward, Sr. Vice President of Lucasfilm and President of Lucasarts, led a demonstration day at Skywalker Ranch to promote the upcoming release of Star Wars: Episode III - The Revenge of the Sith on DVD. The film, which comes to DVD on November 1, enjoys an elaborate two-disc set stacked with extra features sure to excite Padawans from five to fifty. The purpose of the afternoon, Ward explains, was "to make sure we had the best value-added material that we could possibly have, and not just stuff to cram on there but stuff that people actually wanted to watch. And rather than just list everything for you, we thought we would just play a piece that would probably better demonstrate what's on the DVD itself."
In addition to the feature film, the DVD features animated menu screens, which Ward explained followed those assembled for the release of the previous Star Wars DVDs. "You randomly can go to any one of three planets and have three completely distinct menu sets," Ward says. "We've done that for I and II, IV, V and XI, and now we're going to do it for Episode III." He went on to reveal that Utapau, Coruscant, and Mustafar are the three planets which displayed on the menu screens.
Once the viewer navigates into a specific menu screen, the display shows the interior - more specifically, the cockpit - of a star fighter. "You can see all of the great things that we in fact have on this particular disc," Ward says, describing some of the myriad extras. "One of the things that we have been known for with our past DVDs, and this is consistent with this DVD as well, is actually taking deleted scenes and actually completing them and putting them on the disc. We've shown extended pod races - we've shown lots of different things - and this disc is no different; [and] we wanted to give [journalists] the opportunity to see a couple of the deleted scenes."
The menu screens change again - "we meet our friend General Grievous," says Ward - and he punches up the first of two deleted scenes. "The very first one up is the one we're going to take a look at, called 'Grievous Slaughters a Jedi: Escape From the General'. This is a partially completed scene where we've gone back in and done special effects work at ILM; it's partially an animatic and it's partially a rough cut, but in all the entire sequence is one that was taken out of the movie, but for particularly those of you who are really into Star Wars, it's a moment where our beloved friend Shaak Ti bites the dust. You're going to hear George [Lucas] and Rick [McCallum] discuss why that didn't really remain in the movie, and each one of the deleted scenes has an introduction by George and Rick explaining the context, explaining what the deal was, and then obviously the complete deleted scene."
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Lucas' comments explain the need to excise footage from the first major sequence of the film: "There was a lot of material there, and the first sequence, if you will, up until the crash of the Star Destroyer, was an hour, and we needed to get it down under a half hour, so a lot of things had to go. Everything that was important in that scene ultimately got moved to the bridge scene, so we didn't really lose any of the important information. We just did it in a much more economical way."
The scene which follows depicts Obi Wan and Anakin's arrival aboard the starship. Shaak Ti kneels before General Grievous as he goads the Jedis; after he executes Shaak Ti by stabbing her through the chest with a light saber, droids surround Anakin and Obi Wan, and they discuss (via a system of signals that baseball players would envy) an escape route. Eventually, they use their light sabers to cut a hole in the floor and fall to the fuel tanks below.
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"The next one I wanted to show you is actually one that's near and dear to all of our hearts, particularly Rick McCallum's," Ward says. "For those hardcore Star Wars fans in the audience, ok guys, you're going to cry at this one, because this is a very short scene and was in fact cut out of the movie. We were all really pushing George to try to keep it in; there were really good reasons why it wasn't, and you'll understand why, but this is the famous scene where Yoda actually goes to Dagobah, and ends up there and obviously we meet him again in The Empire Strikes Back."
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Producer Rick McCallum describes the scene thusly during his DVD introduction: "[It was] one of the most painful things for me that was cut out of the movie. It's a scene where Yoda basically arrives on Dagobah; it's that simple. It's no more than 30 seconds long - he arrives, the ship lands, you establish the planet, and I was heartbroken when we didn't put it in the movie. I begged George to do it, and I understand the reasons why he didn't." Lucas explains further, "looking at the film, we realized that it was more important to really follow the threads of the children and not the threads of all of the characters, so we first deal with the mother, and then we deal with the father, and then we deal with the two kids. Putting Yoda in there was a bit of unneccessary exposition; we know where he ends up, and we didn't think it was necessary to sort of show that's where he goes."
"I loved that shot," continues McCallum. "It's a beautiful, beautiful moment, and I'm hoping one day as he's tinkering away doing the revised version" - a comment that elicited more than a few uneasy chuckles from the audience - "that he'll think about putting it back into the film, or if nothing else, I'm very happy that everybody gets a chance to see it now."
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The scene is as McCallum describes - Yoda arrives on Dagobah in under 30 seconds - but few sniffles are heard in the crowd; quickly, Ward moves on to the featurettes. "We actually have two featurettes on this disc," he says. "The first one is called 'The Chosen One' and one of the issues obviously in this film is he transformation of Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader. But we wanted to take a much deeper look into that, particularly in what we're going to show you today - an outtake of that - particularly the 'fried and crispy' part where he actually burns; we thought that would be an interesting angle to look at.
"Also," Ward continues, "the next featurette is called 'It's All For Real,' which is actually an interesting story about doing all of the stunts as real as we possibly could. The section we're going to show you is actually a pretty dramatic moment on the set where George changes his mind, and you can see everyone involved who had been planning for months and then George changes his mind on the set like that, they've got to react. So it's a pretty interesting little story."
During one of the film's biggest confrontations, in which Mace Windu (Samuel L. Jackson) tries to apprehend Senator Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid), Lucas changes his mind mid-shoot and insists that Jackson and McDiarmid do their own stunts instead of leaving the heavy lifting for the stunt doubles. Ward overstates the moment's importance - the situation is summarily resolved in a matter of an hour or so - but its message is clear: no matter how much pre-production work Lucas' team offers, they must always be prepared for unexpected changes on the day of the shoot.
Ward then moves on to the centerpiece documentary, which will no doubt earn accolades as much from the critical community and production participants as the fans themselves. "We have a history of doing these [documentaries] both to give people insight into the true process that happens - both the good and the bad. We've certainly done that for our DVDs, and last year with the History of Star Wars - it was also on A & E, and we won an Emmy for that, so we're very proud of this. This time, George in particular was very adamant about a certain approach. You know the credits that roll at the end? Do you guys happen to have any idea what each and every one of those people actually does? It seems like a lot of people, right?"
Before anyone answers his rhetorical query, Ward launches into his pitch. "We thought we could tackle that issue, because we felt and really George that people, when these credits start rolling, it's like, 'my God, why does it take so many people to make this movie? This is Hollywood excess' - or whatever, and that's not really the reality. The reality is that it does take each and every one of those artists to put a movie together. So what we decided to do is take a sequence that's basically less than a minute, isolate that out, and educate the viewer about every single person that touches that less than 60 seconds.
"Usually behind-the-scenes are about the sexy stuff - the special effects, the actors - and we have that in there. But very rarely do we go into each and every facet of what it takes to make a movie, and when you do that, the challenge becomes it's educational but you also need to make it fun. We think we've actually cracked that with this documentary called 'Within a Minute'."
Ward offers a sample of the doc, which features several outtakes, including the set-up, the beginning of it, and then visits the art department, the editorial process, 3-D match movers and practical models - "a lot of the unsung heroes," as he puts it. "Not only is it fun to watch," Ward explains, " but if you have any affinity towards movies, you're absolutely going to learn something and you're going to learn what goes on at least in the world of George Lucas of how to make a film."
The footage opens with a sort of spider-web of different bubbles that circulate around different nuclei - categories, including special effects, production, etc. - and moves directly into one, where a willing crew of artists supplicate themselves at Lucas' feet while he announces which drawings will or will not be used to design the Mustafar duel sequence. From there, different excerpts are shown of different departments in action, but the most exciting revelations were already made - namely, that Lucas called in Spielberg to offer some insights during the pre-visualization, and that the director 'shoots around' his film during principal photography and finds the finished product in the editing room.
That said, the documentary proves to be unlike any other 'making-of' featurette ever made, and will no doubt offer fans new insights into which roles the respect most, and more importantly, they want to take when inspired by Lucas' films.
The final demonstration is a quick glimpse at the Xbox playable demo Lucas offers for the new Lucasarts game Star Wars Battlefront II. Hayden Christiansen himself pops in to demonstrate the game's agile action - despite the exaggerated protests of Ward - and disappears again (check back with IGN DVD next week for a chat with the young actor about embodying Darth Vader), but the point is made; even for gaming novices like myself, the two levels of Battlefront available on Episode III's Disc Two are enticing enough to consider buying an Xbox upon which to play it.
Meanwhile, there are more than a handful of other features not demonstrated by Ward and his able crew, but the final feature he advertises is not the trailers, TV spots, or even DVD-Rom content; rather, it's an Easter Egge, which he says is accessible via the same codes used on previous DVDs.
In the Easter Egg footage, Yoda creeps into frame, casts aside his trademark cane, and performs and impromptu dance to the tune of The Roots "Don't Say Nuthin'." While the clip is hardly substantial, it demonstrates an inescapable truth about Lucasfilm's efforts to revolutionize movie-making as we know it: even when we think we've figured out every last detail, extra, and bit of bonus material, their endlessly inventive staff offers up yet another new feature to catch audiences off guard.
Star Wars Cross-Promotions Due
Slipcases, supplemental discs due from Lucasfilm + retailers.
During the recent press day for the Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith DVD, Lucasfilm Sr. Vice President Jim Ward hinted at a number of promotions that Fox Home Entertainment will be coordinating in conjunction with the release. "We've got great promotions lined up with all of our retailers," Ward said during a panel discussion as Skywalker Ranch on October 6, 2005. "Certainly Wal-Mart; there's a special disc that will come with the DVD that has some great content to it. With Best Buy, we have a really wonderful promotion."
Ward declined to specify what kind of cross-promotion they were developing. "I just can't talk to you about it because it's a surprise and it will blow it," he said. "But suffice it to say we've tied into a nationally-rated television program, and that gentleman is on equal stature with Darth Vader; in fact, some people call him 'Darth Vader of the boardroom'." Other than this apparent nod to TV's The Apprentice host Donald Trump, he said little else. "Suffice it to say we've got some great programs tied in with our friends at Best Buy throughout all of our retail efforts. Absolutely it's going to be great and we can provide you with the details of what those are."
Additionally, Ward said that they were planning to put together some cross-promotional programs that involved slip cases for the prequel trilogy, but declined to describe them in detail. "I think there's some different opportunities there with different retailers and some ASP specific programs and things like that," he said. "I will tell you a lot of fans have done home-grown versions of that that they are putting on the web as well, which is kind of fun, frankly, because you can get a couple of them and switch them in and out." IGN has not received word about Lucasfilm's legal offense to squash these rebel uprisings and ensure that all Star Wars product is produced only by the Skywalker Ranch and its Stormtrooper hordes.
star who?
Okay, I put this movie off as long as was humanly possible, but I finally made myself watch it today.
Here's how I know it was awful: SPOILERS AHEAD
When Anakin Skywalker slaughtered a roomful of children, I didn't care. Not one little bit. I mean, seriously! You have your main character chop up a bunch of little kids in cold blood... as a filmmaker, that's a freebie. People are going to be invested in that moment. You really have to fuck up royally to make that scene end up emotionally neutral.
These movies are so bad it makes me weep for the state of the world. And to think there are still people in the world, after the trilogy's all said and done, that still give a crap about STAR WARS... They've been drinking the Kool-aid for the past five years, and they haven't keeled over dead yet! How much self-delusion do you have to possess to be able to convince yourself that your lifelong obsession was worthwhile? How much disappointment do you have to take before you realize that huddling under George Lucas' massive neckflap won't keep you dry from the rain?
I swear... this movie was so bad it makes me want to rewatch the "Matrix" sequels to get the taste out of my mouth. That's bad.
I'm still amazed that people who realize how bad episodes I & II are, can still be fooled to think that Episode III was good.
Personally it's a twist on suspension of disbelief; I ignore the fact that they're overall bad/ not quite perfectly executed ( :yabbse-tongue:), and rather watch them for the story, which I honestly feel is very engaging. Visuals have their moments, even the acting does. The music is great. I'm not "fooled" in any way, I just choose to let myself get carried away like I did when I was twelve. So I guess, above all, it's a nostalgic thing. But I'll not deny it in any way; the last hour of Episode III moves me like the first three never did, unabashedly, and it's all there in that film. I'd be just as moved had 4,5 and 6 not existed. I think. I hope.
Quote from: polkablues on December 14, 2005, 02:17:15 AM
Okay, I put this movie off as long as was humanly possible, but I finally made myself watch it today.
Here's how I know it was awful: SPOILERS AHEAD
When Anakin Skywalker slaughtered a roomful of children, I didn't care. Not one little bit. I mean, seriously! You have your main character chop up a bunch of little kids in cold blood... as a filmmaker, that's a freebie. People are going to be invested in that moment. You really have to fuck up royally to make that scene end up emotionally neutral.
These movies are so bad it makes me weep for the state of the world. And to think there are still people in the world, after the trilogy's all said and done, that still give a crap about STAR WARS... They've been drinking the Kool-aid for the past five years, and they haven't keeled over dead yet! How much self-delusion do you have to possess to be able to convince yourself that your lifelong obsession was worthwhile? How much disappointment do you have to take before you realize that huddling under George Lucas' massive neckflap won't keep you dry from the rain?
I swear... this movie was so bad it makes me want to rewatch the "Matrix" sequels to get the taste out of my mouth. That's bad.
Oh, I get it. You're a Trekkie.
Quote from: MacGuffin on December 14, 2005, 01:28:14 PM
Oh, I get it. You're a Trekkie.
No way. "Saturn 3", baby. We're a small cult, but an obnoxious one.
Quote from: polkablues on December 14, 2005, 02:05:47 PM"Saturn 3", baby. We're a small cult, but an obnoxious one.
Star Wars and The Matrix runs
rings around that Saturn thing.
Get it? Saturn - rings?
*taps mic*
Is this thing on?
McCallum Drops Star Wars TV Hints
It's "everything the fans always wanted the prequels to be."
Star Wars producer and Lucas's right-hand man, Rick McCallum, was visiting the Ericsson Empire Awards the other night and gave Empire Online an update on the status of the upcoming live-action television series Lucas is working on.
McCallum confirmed the broadcast timeframe we've been hearing about, suggesting a start date in the fall of 2007. In the meantime, writers are busily preparing the scripts that the show will need when it goes into production.
McCallum stressed the darker nature of the series compared to the movies. "It's fantastic; we've got some incredible writers. It's going to be much darker, much more character-based, and I think it's going to be everything the fans always wanted the prequels to be. They'll be one-hour episodes. It takes place between Episodes III and IV." He also confirmed that the series will feature all-new characters, and that it would likely start off with several bounty hunters. If an hour of new Star Wars with rebels, Imperials, and bounty hunters doesn't whet the excitement and anticipation of Star Wars fans, what will?