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The Director's Chair => Stanley Kubrick => Topic started by: mina aphrodosia on June 05, 2003, 11:12:24 AM

Title: explain , please!
Post by: mina aphrodosia on June 05, 2003, 11:12:24 AM
please, kubrick fans, don´t hate now, i really tried it but just couldn´t get it. i don´t understand his movies. they are boring and without any sense to me. i tried ti watch 2001 four times and never came to minute 30. what the hell did he do to lolita? best book in the world and he didn´t even understand what it´s about. or eyes wide shut: tom cruise walkes trough the city..you wait and then the movie is ending and you didn´t notice anything important, beautiful, special or whatever. could anybody please tell me why everybody says that he´s a genius?
Title: explain , please!
Post by: SoNowThen on June 05, 2003, 11:30:38 AM
If the visual quality doesn't blow you away, or the truly bizarre way the characters regard each other doesn't make you laugh out loud... well, there's not much you can do. I guess you're not on the Kubrick wavelength. Just take a year off from watching his films, then come back when you need something different, and hopefully they will work. Because there's a deep treasure trove of brilliance in everything he does. It will hit you one day, maybe just give it some time...
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Post by: xerxes on June 05, 2003, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: mina aphrodosiawhat the hell did he do to lolita? best book in the world and he didn´t even understand what it´s about.

well, i agree with you there
Title: explain , please!
Post by: Keener on June 05, 2003, 12:56:24 PM
Rent Paths of Glory. It's somewhat more commercial in the sense he doesn't do anything really wild and the film is relatively short. It's regarded as one of the best war films of all time. Considering you only mentioned 2001, Lolita, and Eyes Wide Shut, have you seen The Shining and Full Metal Jacket ? You should check into those though I must warn you The Shining has alot of "slow" and "confusing" parts that loose a lot of people. A Clockwork Orange is regarded as one of his best but judging from your post I sincerly doubt you'd like it at the moment.

So if you can dig war films, rent:
Paths of Glory
Full Metal Jacket

And if you like dark comedies and Slim Pickens:
Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Title: explain , please!
Post by: SoNowThen on June 05, 2003, 01:06:57 PM
If you dig Rape, Ultraviolence, and Beethoven, you should totally go out and rent A Clockwork Orange.
Title: explain , please!
Post by: Pwaybloe on June 05, 2003, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenIf you dig Rape, Ultraviolence, and Beethoven, you should totally go out and rent A Clockwork Orange.

Pawbloe's Requirements for Movies
1. Rape
2. Ultraviolence
3. Beethoven
4. Hot Chicks

Ahhh... just missed it.
Title: explain , please!
Post by: SoNowThen on June 05, 2003, 02:41:22 PM
Naw, there's definitely hot chicks in Clockwork. Hot naked chicks!
Title: Re: explain , please!
Post by: godardian on June 05, 2003, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: xerxes
Quote from: mina aphrodosiawhat the hell did he do to lolita? best book in the world and he didn´t even understand what it´s about.

well, i agree with you there

I say a lot of people wrongly project a lot of deep-dark-SIGNIFICANCE to Lolita, when it has always had strong currents of dark comedy. If you don't appreciate Kubrick's going with that (which I really do), you have to also blame Nabokov, who put that emphasis into his script.
Title: explain , please!
Post by: xerxes on June 06, 2003, 03:46:22 AM
i don't deny that there was a great deal of dark comedy in lolita (i also believe that there is a good amount of "deep-dark" stuff in there too)... it is just, in my opinion, it cannot be made into a film... it just doesn't work in that format.
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Post by: Ghostboy on June 06, 2003, 03:49:47 AM
I agree, and Lyne's faithful verison definitely proves this. Kubrick (and Nabokov) handled the material the best way possible, and it's a great film, but not for the same reasons as the book.
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Post by: Cecil on June 06, 2003, 07:16:39 AM
Quote from: mina aphrodosiacould anybody please tell me why everybody says that he´s a genius?

cause we know where the secret option is on the dvds that play the "real version of the film." youre still watching the "boring version" if you just hit play.
Title: explain , please!
Post by: Duck Sauce on June 06, 2003, 11:52:51 AM
I think you really have to pay attention to a Kubrick movie, if you are turning it off after 30 minutes you arent getting much out of it. Watch the full thing through, and it will all make sense in the end.,