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Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Pas on May 26, 2003, 06:55:20 PM
Is there any movie you like, but know is bad ?.. bad story, bad directing, bad acting, bad everything.

I can say I like The Substitute (1996, Robert Mendel, starring Tom Berenger) a lot more than I should  :roll: Why ? God knows, might be all that crack my mother took while pregnant.  8)
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Cecil on May 26, 2003, 07:20:38 PM
well there are alot of b-movies i like, but theyre usually cult films. other than those, i actually like four rooms, and city of industry. i also really enjoyed 54 the first time i saw it.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Pas on May 26, 2003, 07:44:15 PM
54 really qualifies for this category :)

City of Industry, another Stephen Dorff ! I like this story of him (On IMDB) : "Was considered for the part of Jack in "Titanic". Stephen was glad that he didn't play the part because he would have been always remembered for being that guy on the boat." Very smart move of him, instead of being remembered as the guy on the boat, he will now be able to not being remembered.
Title: re
Post by: pookiethecat on May 26, 2003, 10:22:50 PM
speaking of stephen dorff and movies that are bad yet entertaining, he was in a film about apartheid, the power of one.  i really thought he did a fantastic job in the movie: great english accent too. overall, he's pretty underrated but that's partially his fault cuz he chooses fairly shitty roles.    ahem...fear.com...ahem...
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 26, 2003, 10:34:57 PM
Where's Bonanzataz?
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: soixante on May 26, 2003, 11:13:56 PM
Do you mean good bad movies, or bad good movies?  I have watched The Wild Party a bunch of times, even though it's really not very good.  For some reason, I feel compelled to watch it.  It is not James Ivory's best film, as it was done on a low budget for American International Pictures, but it has that great mid-70's decadence that only the mid-70's could have.  Plus, it is wonderful camp -- Raquel Welch belting out showtunes, James Coco going into a Fatty Arbuckle-esque rage, Perry King playing a sleazeball leading man.  Recently, the same source material inspired two separate Broadway musicals.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: modage on May 27, 2003, 01:31:31 AM
do BILL AND TED count? because they rule.  i mean,  how many bonehead comedies can you think of that have homages to Ingmar Bergman movies?  you wont see that in DUDE WHERES MY CAR.  BOGUS JOURNEY rulez.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Raikus on May 27, 2003, 10:16:09 AM
Army of Darkness. All the way.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: children with angels on May 27, 2003, 10:31:55 AM
Aren't we talking about shitty movies that aren't cool and don't have a "cult status"...? I love Bill and Ted and Army of Darkness, but they're both kind okay to enjoy and still remain cool: they have a certain outsider charm to them (and I think thy're both actually well made - they achieve what they intend to)...

I'm gonna put myself out there and admit that - due to working in a multiplex at the time, and therefore seeing it 20 or 30 times - I have a completely irrational love for American Pie. The first time I saw it I thought it was pretty funny - but actually sincerely poorly made (it shows that it's a first-time for the directors), but a strange thing happens when you watch this teen-sex movie over and over again: you become seriously emotionally attatched to the characters... I found myself waiting for - not the funny scenes - but the piss-poor, sappy, romance moments when I watched it. I think it's just that I watched it so often over such a long period of time: it kind of grew with me I guess. Plus, no matter how shittily a love scene is executed, you can't help but relate it to whoever the person in your life is who you have those feelings for at that time. This just happened to be the movie because I spent so much time with it - I suppose it could've been any film really...
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: MacGuffin on May 27, 2003, 11:47:20 AM
Quote from: children with angelsAren't we talking about shitty movies that aren't cool and don't have a "cult status"...?

I took this thread to mean "Guilty Pleasures."
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: children with angels on May 27, 2003, 12:22:42 PM
Exactly! I don't think Dawn of the Dead is a guilty pleasure either - that's another damn fine movie with a cult status...
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: modage on May 27, 2003, 01:22:48 PM
REALITY BITES? does this count?  its not cool.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: SoNowThen on May 27, 2003, 01:59:32 PM
Congo and Island Of Doctor Moreau (Frankenheimer version). They suck, but I love 'em.
Title: re
Post by: pookiethecat on May 27, 2003, 03:59:22 PM
ahh yes...congo.  fantastic.  fantastically bad.

bedazzled is a good bad movie if there ever was one.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: SoNowThen on May 27, 2003, 04:02:29 PM
Hmm, I'll go so far as to say Bedazzled is just a good movie. No need to put "bad" in there.
Title: bedazzled
Post by: pookiethecat on May 27, 2003, 04:16:46 PM
it has its heart in the right place...that's why i like it.  but i wouldn't really call it a good movie.  the ending is awful.  and a decent amount of the gags fall flat.  it's an enjoyable movie with funny performances by elizabeth hurley and brendan fraser but not at a "good" one in my opinion, especially within the realm of really good sophisticated comedy.

a litmus test: would you feel comfortable displaying it on your DVD shelf?
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: NEON MERCURY on May 27, 2003, 05:22:29 PM
good topic...
Here is some selections- Goulies 1-whatever, weekend at bernies, wierd science, cyborg , hudson hawk, last action hero, jaws the revenge.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Alethia on May 27, 2003, 05:29:44 PM
halloween 4
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: Cecil on May 27, 2003, 07:58:58 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURYcyborg

nice. but albert pyun still sucks
Title: Re: bedazzled
Post by: SoNowThen on May 27, 2003, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: pookiethecatit has its heart in the right place...that's why i like it.  but i wouldn't really call it a good movie.  the ending is awful.  and a decent amount of the gags fall flat.  it's an enjoyable movie with funny performances by elizabeth hurley and brendan fraser but not at a "good" one in my opinion, especially within the realm of really good sophisticated comedy.

a litmus test: would you feel comfortable displaying it on your DVD shelf?

Damn straight I would. I liked the ending, where he asks the chick out and even though he "learned" his lesson, it was still creepy, and she ended up saying no. So he went off and found her double, who cares, it's a comedy. I just love the opening though, it's one of my favs ever. And all the little skits in the middle (particularily "there's no 'I' in team") had me howling. And Hurley's not bad to look at, either. All in all, a much better comedy than any of the Austin Powers shit people find so funny.
Title: re
Post by: pookiethecat on May 27, 2003, 09:26:54 PM
yeah.  i like the part at the end where he's riding his bike up the san francisco hill and  smiles... seems sorta out of the blue, but also makes sense cuz he's just made a major change in his life...it's funny and weirdly touching.  

by the way, i agree.  austin powers sucks a big fat siberian wang.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: my dead dog on May 28, 2003, 09:19:45 PM
Anyone else seen Octopus? To be honest this is so bad that it probably doesn't even deserve to be classed as a Z film. I saw it, strange enough, at about 2am in Ho Chi Minh City last year.
If you get the chance, grab it. A turd of this magnitude deserves special praise. I broke 4 ribs laughing, 3 of them mine.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: godardian on May 29, 2003, 12:44:01 AM
Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion. I'm sure to the objective observer it looks and feels directly phoned in from bad-sitcom-land, but I think it's great.
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on May 29, 2003, 01:20:40 AM
ohh four rooms is bad, so bad

the kid part was good

but qt's scene was a mess

and the witches was a " Im so cool" circle jerk

a bunch of woman trying to look cool and relevent and well BORING
Title: re
Post by: pookiethecat on May 29, 2003, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackManohh four rooms is bad, so bad

the kid part was good

but qt's scene was a mess

and the witches was a " Im so cool" circle jerk

a bunch of woman trying to look cool and relevent and well BORING

what the...*utterly confused*

romy and michele is funny and often really clever.  not just the brilliant line readings by Janeane Garafalo, Lisa Kudrow, and Mira Sorvino, but also the clever visual irony that director David Mirkin infuses into the directing. probably from his experience producing the Simpsons.    

put simply, it's just one of those movies where it seems that everyone involved was really intelligent.  the acting, the directing, the writing, it's all clever and witty.  that it occasionally fails is ok because it never really insults the intellignece.

definitely gets the pookie stamp of approval.   :-D
Title: Your favorite bad yet not "Z" movie
Post by: SoNowThen on May 29, 2003, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackManohh four rooms is bad, so bad

the kid part was good

but qt's scene was a mess

and the witches was a " Im so cool" circle jerk

a bunch of woman trying to look cool and relevent and well BORING

I thought the QT part was the only one worth its salt. I loved it.

Oh, I also love From Dusk 'till Dawn. That's pretty b-movie-ish.