Did anyone pick up the last edition to Entertainment Weekly. It had the top 50 cult movie. I think they did a pretty good job of rating.
#1 This is Spinal Tap
#2 Rock Horror Picture Show
The one big mistake I think they made, was they rated Evil Dead 2 as #19. I think it should have been in the top 5.
Quote from: CadillacJackDid anyone pick up the last edition to Entertainment Weekly. It had the top 50 cult movie. I think they did a pretty good job of rating.
#1 This is Spinal Tap
#2 Rock Horror Picture Show
The one big mistake I think they made, was they rated Evil Dead 2 as #19. I think it should have been in the top 5.
I got it, but Mac will probably be able to find the list online somewhere
What did Holy Grail rank ?
I've always wondered: what exactly is the criteria for something to be offically labelled 'cult'? Seems to be a fairly fluid term when Pink Flamingoes can rate on the same list as Shawshank...
Quote from: children with angelsI've always wondered: what exactly is the criteria for something to be offically labelled 'cult'? Seems to be a fairly fluid term when Pink Flamingoes can rate on the same list as Shawshank...
Yeah, if they were going to be including "legit" films like
Superstar,
Rushmore,
Grey Gardens, etc, and not just the b-movie Troma-type stuff, they should have included
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover, in my opinion.
I think EW's definition of "cult movie" is quite nebulous and arbitrary. Something about "They compose our cultural Esperanto, a subliminal vocabulary of vaguely subversive images, ideas, and phrases that we continue to obsess over and dissect at parties, around watercoolers, in bars, over the blaring banalities of the mainstream media din."
I think they tried too hard to make
Rushmore sound less mainstream than it is so they could include it. I mean, it's a great movie, don't get me wrong, but I think they're stretching it with the things they say about it in their little cult-capsule synopsis.
Spinal Tap's a better movie than Rocky Horror, but Rocky Horror has a far more cultish following. It should be #1.
And, yeah, godardian's right: Rushmore? Take that out and replace it with, like, The Matrix or something. The Dark Crystal, maybe?
That's actually a pretty good list but it only has one of the Evil Dead movies (EDII, the best one IMO), and it's not even that high. Army Of Darkness isn't there, surprisingly.
or how about mommie fucking dearest? god, these people have no respect for the greats.
I disagree about The Cook,TTHWTL... don't really see that as cult.. at least not one that's more prevalent...
agreed about Rocky Horror though... while I hates it, it is definately the number one cult film ever.
Oh yeah... I didn't see Refer Madness on that list. Or the Faces of Death flicks. I guess they're not including Mondo type flicks.
What about Goonies... that's pretty cult.
The hell... ? Since when is "Friday" a cult movie?
Quote from: RegularKarateI didn't see Refer Madness on that list. Or the Faces of Death flicks.
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Quote from: RegularKarateI disagree about The Cook,TTHWTL... don't really see that as cult.. at least not one that's more prevalent...
agreed about Rocky Horror though... while I hates it, it is definately the number one cult film ever.
Oh yeah... I didn't see Refer Madness on that list. Or the Faces of Death flicks. I guess they're not including Mondo type flicks.
What about Goonies... that's pretty cult.
I've actually seen
The Cook... play at a revival house (at the Clinton Street Theater in Portland in 2000) and draw out a throng of devotees. Unlike
The Goonies.
Quote from: bonanzatazor how about mommie fucking dearest? god, these people have no respect for the greats.
Now
that's a cult movie to reign with the cultiest.
Speaking of which, did anyone watch
Martha, Inc. on Monday night? Doesn't hold a candle, but it was fairly juicy/funny. The filmmakers didn't keep their poker faces straight enough, though, so then you got this feeling they were trying too hard to be campy and it lost some of the tone.
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I've actually seen The Cook... play at a revival house (at the Clinton Street Theater in Portland in 2000) and draw out a throng of devotees. Unlike The Goonies.
Well, I'm sure a ton of people would go see a theatrical showing of The Seventh Seal... doesn't make it a cult film.
And THE GOONIES showed here IN A CAVE! Hosted by Corey Feildman and folks paid thirty bucks and up per ticket to see it. That's cult-y
I definately agree about Mommy Dearest.
and whoops about the Faces of Death.
And I can see Friday as a cult classic... not list worthy maybe though
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I've actually seen The Cook... play at a revival house (at the Clinton Street Theater in Portland in 2000) and draw out a throng of devotees. Unlike The Goonies.
Well, I'm sure a ton of people would go see a theatrical showing of The Seventh Seal... doesn't make it a cult film.
In that case, though, what
does make a cult film? I mean, I really want to know. I think of
Cook being a cult film in the same way I think of
Clockwork Orange being a cult film, but I can't quite put my finger on why... and I don't think EW knows better than you or I do. Like, what exactly does
Friday have that makes it more of a cult film than something like
Cook?
Just in the interests of clarification... I really don't have any answers to these questions. I'm beginning to lose any tiny shred of faith I had in the "cult" label, anyways. I've just sort of vaguely thought of it as a film that inspires particular devotion, for some reason, or maybe something that was poorly distributed or unappreciated or swept under the rug at first, and then people "discovered" it and became protective of it. But I guess it's just easier to say "cult." I'm going to put that word in the same trash heap I put the words "alternative" and "weird"; meaningless through overuse and misapplication.
Yeah... it's hard to define "cult status"
I think there are two different categories of cult.
One of them includes fims that are so bad they're good... a celebration of flaws... a lot of films that fall into todays cult category intentionally do this, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, Buba HoTep, etc... This category would include Rocky Horror and the like.
The second category is the films that fly in under the radar like you were saying... films that are more appealing to "counter cultures"... not accepted by the mainstream movie goers, but adored by a small group.
Of course there would be films that fall into both, which, I guess would make them extra "Cult-y".
I think quote-ability has a lot to do with it too.
don't know man... hard to say
I don't know about anyone, but I'm just glad to see Aguirre: The Wrath of God on there. For me, Klaus Kinski has to be the most fascinating actor out there ever. Easily in the top 5 of people I would like to have dinner with. And to just state it, most fascinating actress is Louise Brooks who may have been the only intellectual or most intelligent of actresses.
~rougerum
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI don't know about anyone, but I'm just glad to see Aguirre: The Wrath of God on there. For me, Klaus Kinski has to be the most fascinating actor out there ever. Easily in the top 5 of people I would like to have dinner with. And to just state it, most fascinating actress is Louise Brooks who may have been the only intellectual or most intelligent of actresses.
~rougerum
Hey, The Gold Trumpet. I was just talking about Fitzcarraldo with a good friend of mine. I love that movie so much. Herzog's films in general are all great. Especially that remake of Nosferatu.
It's like opening a store called Burger Queen, and making whopper-calibur food.
Any director willing to hold the camera on water for 3 minutes and get an amazing effect is great in my book.
I always have associated CULT MOVIES with movies that arent really that great or accepted by the mainstream and even people like us, but finds a very small niche of people who love it. They just listed a bunch of offbeat movies...
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Matthew was really well hung, eh ? Get it ? Hung. Eh ? Anything ? Anything ?
Other cult films:
Sextette -- Mae West's last film, one of Timothy Dalton's first films. Anything that features Dom Deluise and Keith Moon in the same movie has to be a cult film.
Myra Breckenridge -- Another Mae West film, co-starring Rex Reed and Raquel Welch.
Magic Christian, A Boy and His Dog, 200 Motels, Man Who Fell to Earth, Tommy, Zardoz
Performance?
Velvet Goldmine?
Centering your film around popular music/popular music figures seems to lend it some "cult"ness, maybe?
QuoteHow about creating our own list over top 50 cult movies?
All for it!
By the way, Withnail & I is waaay too low on that list :P
I agree that a cult film is either pathetically bad and therefore aspires to some degree of appreciated humor or perhaps it just gathers a select and esoteric group of followers based on its subject. They also somewhat become over analyzed and dissected films, forming somewhat of a cult group even on mainstream good films. Somewhat like Pulp Fiction.
Shawshank Redemption ? A cult movie ? Stephen King inspired, Morgan Freeman as actor, no a glimpse of eccentricity ...
What the hell is this movie doing there ? Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, Office Space, Pi, Requiem for A Dream ...
Pi can't be a cult movie, it won the sundance didn't it?
Requiem however, i agree.
Shawshank I think is, because it has a bigger following after it comes out on video, than when it first hit the theaters.
in their new issue they said they got so many pissed off letters they added 11 more cult movies to their list. they are...
1. MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL
2. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
3. MOMMIE DEAREST
4. THE PRINCESS BRIDE
5. SWINGERS
6. UHF
7. VALLEY OF THE DOLLS
8. FIGHT CLUB
9. DEAD ALIVE aka BRAINDEAD
10. BETTER OFF DEAD
11. DONNIE DARKO
I could be wrong, but I remember Mac once saying "A mainstream movie is a movie that a million people see 5 times, a cult movie is a movie that 5 people see a million times."
hey thanks for the clarification a full year and 5 months after anyone stopped caring.
Pubrick, you are an asshole ya know that?
:-D
Shit, what did I say? election day will be complete anarchy on xixax! it's happening, girls vs boys and shit.
Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
do you consider cult movies better than just good movies because you can watch them OVER AND OVERRR AND OVERRRR again? shit, dont all of us want to watch movies like this? i used to watch beauty and the beast like every day when i got home from preschool when i was 4. Now i look at it and its one of the best ways to remember my childhood. do people know when they are making a cult film? tarantino intentionally made jackie brown to be leisurely like dazed and confused so you could watch it over and over again, me, the only cult movie really is blade runner, and maybe jungle fever, possibly mrs. doubtfire, these are all movies i kind of dont like but i have seen them more than anything else, so you could say they are my favorites.
TCM Welcomes Auteur Filmmaker and Music Artist Rob Zombie as Host Of New Cult Movie Showcase on TCM
Turner Classic Movies is taking a walk on the wild side as it welcomes auteur filmmaker and legendary rocker Rob Zombie as the host of the network's newest weekly movie showcase, TCM UNDERGROUND. The late-night franchise, which will feature off-the-wall movies chosen and introduced by Zombie, is set to launch in October.
"TCM UNDERGROUND will serve as home to some of the truly visionary cult films that have been made over the past century, from stylish horror movies to offbeat black comedies," said Tom Karsch, executive vice president and general manager for TCM. "We are proud to have a talent like Rob Zombie hosting this showcase, which is certain to broaden TCM's appeal beyond our loyal core audience."
Among the movies set to be featured in the TCM UNDERGROUND are Russ Meyer's iconic Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!, horror master George Romero's The Crazies, Ed Wood's Bride Of The Monster and Brian De Palma's creepy Sisters, as well as Leonard Castle's offbeat The Honeymoon Killers, the story of which also serves as the basis for the new thriller Lonely Hearts, starring John Travolta, James Gandolfini, Salma Hayek, Jared Leto and Laura Dern.
Zombie has made a name for himself challenging audiences by stretching the boundaries of film, music and publishing. He recently took film to a new level with his critically acclaimed House of 1000 Corpses and its high-octane follow-up The Devil's Rejects, and he is now working on his next film project, the animated horror film The Haunted World of Superbeasto starring Academy Award nominee Paul Giamatti, slated for release later this year.
As the longest active artist on Geffen Records and the most prolific Geffen artist when it comes to Gold and Platinum discs, Zombie has sold in excess of fifteen million records worldwide. This past March, his new album Educated Horses entered the billboard charts at #5. Zombie is also a seasoned video director, with more than 25 videos to his credit. In 1995, he won an MTV Music Video Award for "More Human Than Human," becoming the first self-directed artist to win such an award.
Here is the schedule for TCM UNDERGROUND: 2006 TCM UNDERGROUND SCHEDULE
**All times Eastern and titles subject to change
Friday, October 13
2:00 AM Plan 9 from Outer Space ('59)
3:30 AM Bride of the Monster ('55)
Friday, October 20
2:00 AM Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! ('65)
3:30 AM Mudhoney ('65)
Friday, October 27
2:00 AM Night of the Living Dead ('68)
3:45 AM The Crazies ('73)
Friday, November 3
2:00 AM Sisters ('73)
Friday, November 10
2:00 AM Electra Glide in Blue ('73)
Friday, November 17
2:00 AM Freaks ('32)
3:15 AM Mark of the Vampire ('35)
Friday, November 24
2:00 AM The Sadist ('63)
3:45 AM Wild Guitar ('62)
Friday, December 1
2:00 AM The Conqueror Worm ('68)
Friday, December 8
2:00 AM The Honeymoon Killers ('70)
Friday, December 15
2:00 AM Deranged ('74)
Friday, December 22
2:00 AM West of Zanzibar ('28)
3:45 AM Unholy Three ('25)
Friday, December 29
2:00 AM Madhouse ('74)
3:45 AM The Last Man on Earth ('64)
this is awesome. :bravo: