sequel development: the changes that occur in the time at the end of the first movie in the series, to the beginning of the first sequel of a movie where they are first revealed.
i can't think of any.
that's depressing.
Did any of that make sense to anyone?
ok you know when you watched jaws1? and then you watched jaws2. and then you saw there were all these different things in it. like the characters have changed, the world has changed, everything has, like, changed? that's what a development between movies in a series is. :)
Most of the "Nightmare on Elm Streets," actually.
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nope.
I think one of the pitfalls of the sequel in general is not realizing that the first and second films are two different films entirely that should have different points. As the example Jaws and Jaws 2 were given, they do exist as showing different worlds and characters but that was not based on any merit, but just the fact the actors for the first refused to return. The whole point of the second Jaws remains intact to get the feeling of the scare that the original had. They just changed some minor details in getting that. What the sequel must do in find its own character so it doesn't look like it serving for the pleasure of how good the first one was. The sequel generally considered the very best is The Godfather Part 2. I think it is a good film, not a great one because of my point, it never really finds its own identity in purpose of theme and at best shows a new narrative. The truth of the film though remains the same as the first one in showing the struggle for power to be held and unspeakable things done to maintain that. The Godfather Part 2 is so crafty and slick though that it doesn't show its flaws as easily as the third in talent, but nonetheless it doesn't add that much to the first in anyway. Its hard to say what I would call the best sequel, because in even great films I admire like Satiyat Ray's Aparjito (part of the Apu Trilogy), many things remain the same from the first to the second and in my mind, shows the first as the better of the two because of it. Maybe Kiewslowski's Three Colors Trilogy stands as the best because its purpose is not to follow one story, but to show a multi layered thread of what could be one film. Its just that Blue, White and Red are divided in conjucture to time. White and Red though widen Kiewslowski's themes from the first and make the overall work more interesting because there is so much to take interest in and nothing is ever clearly brought to any end. The whole thing ends on an anti ending, an ending that only speaks for the variations of themes in the movies. Three Colors Trilogy I guess would be my pick as the best of sequels because if furthers and deepens not just the story of the first one, but the ideas of it.
~rougerum
Yes, Three Colors is amazing.
How about the Antoine Doinel movies? I've only seen the 400 Blows and Stolen Kisses, but they were two completely different films, that were a "series" of sorts, and both were wonderful in their own way.
godfather 1 and 2
In Die Hard 1&2 Bruce gets back together with his wife, but in part 3 he's back in New York and they're broken up again, which sucks. But ya gotta give it points for being more realistic..... :shock:
Did you guys know they are making a "The Lion King 1 1/2"?
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0318403
see my rant about disney in the DVD section for continuity, but do you see what i fucking mean?! walt NEVER allowed sequels, he HATED them. It was alright back when they were just releasing them on video, it was harmless enough. but now they make jungle book sequels and peter pan sequels that show up in theaters! it's an insult!
Well, I guess we can now say Les Invasions Barbares (The Barbarian Invasions, the sequel to The Fall of the American Empire) ! I haven't seen that kind of character development in a sequel since...well...ever
Oh, yeah, you haven't seen it in the US yet...Miramax bought it so it'll be fine