... I do. And I haven't even seen it. Why do I hate it, you ask? Because people say to me (thinking I only watch "indie" films): oh, you'll love it, it's exactly what you want to make -- an independent film that's really well done. And I can't bring myself to tell them that they wouldn't know "well done" if it bit them in the ass. Then there's the classic "it's the best movie ever made" probably because it's supposed to be The Most Successful Film Of All Time, even though I'm pretty damn sure Easy Rider still holds that (it made something like 15 times what it cost). Then I watch previews of it, and it looks like bad made-for-tv shit. But then people like my Aunt say "oh it's soooooo true, it's so funny & true, that's EXACTLY what happened at my friends' wedding". So if I made a movie about a groom who gets drunk and fucks a stripper right before his wedding night, would it be her favorite movie because it's soooo funny and true? Arrrrrghhh. Please tell me that some of you guys are with me on this, or am I the only one in North America to not be won over by the cuteness pap that is Nia Varda-whateverthefuck.
i haven't seen it... and don't really plan on seeing it.
did this movie kill your father or something???
Quote from: xerxesi haven't seen it... and don't really plan on seeing it.
did this movie kill your father or something???
dido
Quote from: SoNowThen... I do. And I haven't even seen it. Why do I hate it, you ask? Because people say to me (thinking I only watch "indie" films): oh, you'll love it, it's exactly what you want to make -- an independent film that's really well done.
...it's not the worst movie ever, but it feels like it is because of exactly what you're talking about here. It's TV stuff. It's faintly amusing, but nothing approaching even the neighborhood of special.
People don't want special. They want to be reassured and numbed. Hence, they are able to feel excitement over something that really has nothing to offer you can't get better and funnier from
Friends.
And don't even get me started on the people who feel good about loving the movie because of its "exotic," "ethnic" heartwarm. Give any of these people Jeffrey Eugenides's
Middlesex- a
real exploration of a Greek family over several generations with the terrible history and all- and they will be appalled at the lack of cuteness, if they ever even bother to read.
Don't bother seeing it.
I think that the movie's terrible. A few funny things here and there, but over all it just doesn't work (for me at least). I'm not really sure why this was accepted by so many as a great movie, because its really not.
I submit it's because most people have no concept of what a really great movie is. Most people haven't had access to enough great movies, and by the time they do, their senses are dulled by all the bad ones.
I'm agreeing with godardian here, this is nothing that can not be seen on tv and all tv gurantees is a laugh a half hour. This film was drowned in storylines completely cliche and uninteresting I literally started reading a book during the movie. Weird, the movie has now become a tv show. actually, the best word is fitting.
~rougerum
I have to admit I enjoyed it. You really can't go into it expecting that you're seeing something new and unique. I liked it for the simple family comedy that it was. It was one of the few movies that you can see with a very wide range of people. I don't care for very many romantic comedies - in fact I think this is one of maybe four I've liked. Just call it a guilty pleasure and try to smile.
saw it. hated it. went home. watched magnolia to wash it off me.
Y'know the movie never fell into lame plot twists that ruin other romantic comedies. The couple stuck together through thick and thin. You should applaud it for that.
Quote from: SoNowThenThe Most Successful Film Of All Time, even though I'm pretty damn sure Easy Rider still holds that (it made something like 15 times what it cost).
I think it's actually the Blair Witch Project. As for MBFGW, it's trash.
MBFGW is entertaining, but overrated. It is basically TV material and not extremely original, but I did laugh during the film. I think so many people liked it because compared to the other comedies of recent years, this one seems like a masterpiece. I can't imagine that many people would be watching it in 5 years, though. I was entertained, but it wasn't so damn entertaining that I saw it 3 times, recommended it to all my friends, and preordered the DVD. I wouldn't tell you not to see it, but I wouldn't actively recommend it either.
I saw one episode of the TV show, which is awful. Once you get past the Greek jokes, there is nothing compelling you to watch.
it was not my cup of tea. i thought it was o.k.
:yabbse-undecided:
I might have liked it more if everyone hadn't told me like every fucking part of it before I saw it. Then again, who knows?
I didn't see it. I still don't really even know that much about it either. The only thing related to it that I've been sadly exposed to is the horrible-looking tv show. Let me tell you, you'd have to fucking pay me to watch that. The ads for it are just sad. It's always pissed me off how kids, teenagers, and elderly people are potrayed on tv and in film...film mostly. The ads for that damn tv show are exactly what I'm talking about. With the mother being all excited about her daughter's sex life. That's how a lot of those kind of people are potrayed. Kids and elderly people, how they're all risque yet naive...that is so fucking stupid...seriously, is that suppose to be funny?
"oh my god...that old woman said "sex"...uh oh! hahahaha!!!!"
"look at that cute little blonde kid, he's talking about sex too!"
And then the teenagers are ALWAYS potrayed as young, dumb and full of cum...that is stupid too. A lot of teenagers are like that, yes...but seriously, come on now, there are some cool teens that really do have personalities. They are rarely brought to the screen though. When they are, people love and embrace it...why not do it more often? There needs to be more Max Fischer's than Stifler's.
Anyway, It seems that, in the case of MBFGW (just judging by the tv show ads), that elderly people get the shaft. I just think that sucks...that's my rant for the day: kids, teens, and the elderly need to be treated better in film.
Yep, I agree. Y'know what's funny, though? In that shitty Pie series, Stifler is about the only honest and real character to me. A total fuckin muppet who somehow gets ALL the good looking chicks. Bizarre. But I like the actor, he made me laugh in Road Trip. And I happened to have met one of his ex girlfriends... and she is a babe. So kudos to him for parlaying that retarded American Pie movie into some sweet blonde panties. Frank Mackey would be proud.
Okay, finally saw this today, and I have to say it was cute and funny at times. But the story is really nothing new, the jokes are recycled and those types of family stereotypes jokes were handled a lot better in a movie like "Moonstruck". The romance here is contrived, so the movie felt like let's get back to the crazy family scenes which made the film feel like Karen's introduction to the family and the wedding scenes in "GoodFellas" expanded to 90 minutes. At the same time I could see why it struck a chord with audiences because it plays on the indentification of family ("Oh, that's like my mother," or "my family does that too."). It wasn't a bad film, and I felt it was a better 'go against the family' film than "Bend It Like Beckham".
Just saw this again and its hilarous... the father is great... and even though I agree that there are some very good movies of this type... you have to give some credit to Tom's wife for the project and what it accomplished
Finally, other people! Frankly, I can't remember most of the movie, or any jokes in it. "jokes". Even as a tv sitcom it is bad, bad, bad. I wish Rita Wilson would get out of there!
foray
Quote from: Tiffsaw it. hated it. went home. watched magnolia to wash it off me.
great post, ha ha ha...and i love your av Tiff
well the movie was nothing special for me, some laughs, nice, cute guy, but nothing more...
one question....those things called "gyros", how do you pronounce it ?????
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I don't hate the movie itself. It's got it's funny moments... no, it's not incredibly original (PDL would have been the better romantic comedy to get a screenplay Oscar nod last year), but it's enjoyable.
What I do hate is the fact that this is considered an "Indie" film. It's cliched enough to be a studio film, yet people call it "the underground Indie hit of 2002." That I can't stand. I mean, Tom Hanks produced it for Christ's sake!
Exactly.
Quote from: BrainSushiWhat I do hate is the fact that this is considered an "Indie" film. It's cliched enough to be a studio film, yet people call it "the underground Indie hit of 2002."
It was an indie film. It didn't receive any funding from a major studio, that's what made it the success story - every one passed on it, so the funded it themselves. It even received a nomination at the IFP Spirit awards.
Quote from: BrainSushiI mean, Tom Hanks produced it for Christ's sake!
Clooney and Soderbergh produced "Far From Heaven" and that's considered an 'indie'.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: BrainSushiWhat I do hate is the fact that this is considered an "Indie" film. It's cliched enough to be a studio film, yet people call it "the underground Indie hit of 2002."
It was an indie film. It didn't receive any funding from a major studio, that's what made it the success story - every one passed on it, so the funded it themselves. It even received a nomination at the IFP Spirit awards.
Quote from: BrainSushiI mean, Tom Hanks produced it for Christ's sake!
Clooney and Soderbergh produced "Far From Heaven" and that's considered an 'indie'.
It actually does have its indie credentials firmly intact on the level MacG points out. It just goes to show that "mainstream" and "indie" labels don't have too much to do with the content or themes of a film, necessarily... an "indie" distributor MIGHT be willing to take more of a risk on a more risky project, but then you see
PDL released by Coca-Cola, too, and all kinds of unadventurous indie films are released... so it's just a crapshoot, really. I think
Big Fat Greek Wedding could have been a huge studio movie if they'd had big stars in it. Even with all its other rather conventional attributes, I'm sure it had trouble because of lack of starpower.
Quote from: NEON MERCURYone question....those things called "gyros", how do you pronounce it ?????
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its pronounced "euros"
Quote from: Exodus 8:2Quote from: NEON MERCURYone question....those things called "gyros", how do you pronounce it ?????
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its pronounced "euros"
No, that's ONE way to pronounce it. I pronounce it "Ji-Ro" - long 'i'.
It's Yeeeeeeeros... not Yuros... with an Eeeeer, not an Uurrrr.
More like "My Big Fat Stereotyped Completely Offensive Greek Wedding Written by and Starring a Crazed Egomaniac who just Happens to be Friends with Tom Hank's Wife"
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/connie_and_carla/
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Well, it's official. Billy Wilder and Jack Lemmon are furiously rolling in their graves.
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Well, it's official. Billy Wilder and Jack Lemmon are rolling in their graves.
Quote from: hacksparrow, in a different thread,SOME LIKE IT HOT!!!!! BUT IN REVERSE!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:
http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=402&start=105
Billy Wilder's estate really should sue.
My girlfriend and I saw MBFGW on recommendation from my mother (whose opinion I should have discounted after she came back from "The Royal Tenenbaums" saying she almost walked out). This one is neck-and-neck with LIE as most overrated film ever.
A bunch of ugly stereotypes and unfunny circumstances (my girlfriend was crying halfway through because her father is like the father in the movie, only my girlfriend's father is a humorless, racist Spaniard who would never let me marry his daughter without disowning her) with Acute "Friends" Syndrome (symptoms include saying unfunny things with funny inflections to give off the illusion of it being a joke). I've seen less funny comedies but none that tried so hard to be funny and failed.
i finally saw 'greek wedding' and thought it was awful...dunno what all the hype was about
I saw this a while ago and didn't like it at all. It was slightly humorous at parts (albeit not many, though), but it was the same sort of humor that 'graced' movies like Gone Fishin' et al, and therefore not really that original. During that one scene when the lady was on the phone and the guy walked in, I was praying that there wouldn't be a bit of her freaking out and then leaving the phone on her so that when she does freak out the cord jerks her back. Of course it DID happen. Nothing special about this at all. I hate that it received so much hype and stuff.
I hate that it received so much hate. Give the movie a break - some films are fun romantic comedies and this was one of them. At least give Nia Vardalos the credit she deserves this time because I don't think she'll ever deserve it again.
Yea, it was fun, I guess. But it didn't affect me like other 'fun' films, therefore I'm reluctant to give it any credit.
Quote from: CinephileI hate that it received so much hate. Give the movie a break - some films are fun romantic comedies and this was one of them. At least give Nia Vardalos the credit she deserves this time because I don't think she'll ever deserve it again.
What credit does she deserve? Don't get me wrong; I'm happy as hell for her because most actresses don't get overnight success like that unless they're prime Maxim material, so it's great to see someone that doesn't look like Barbie to get some recognition for once. But the movie was thoroughly mediocre, so what credit does she deserve that the writers of, for example, What Women Want or Just Married wouldn't deserve as well?
Before I continue, allow me to remind you that I have a Canadian bias. :wink:
I won't give you any credit on the Just Married comment but the What Women Want, yes I will. Vardalos was able to write a nice, sweet script that Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks took enough interest in putting their money into (since they knew each other), so for her efforts as a screenwriter/performer for this film, I give her credit. But as you know, Connie and Carla.. I won't give her any credit for. In fact, I know I will hate everything about that movie.
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In fact, I know I will hate everything about that movie.
me too.
I ponder the question whether or not I should see this movie with as much weight and consideration as I would give someone if they offered to hit me in the crotch with a football. I know the results.
Quote from: Weak2ndActI ponder the question whether or not I should see this movie with as much weight and consideration as I would give someone if they offered to hit me in the crotch with a football. I know the results.
Yeah, but the difference is that after you see it this movie, people won't call you 'numb nuts.'
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Yeah, but the difference is that after you see it this movie, people won't call you 'numb nuts.'
sorry, i gotta do it again.......buh-dum bum
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Yeah, but the difference is that after you see it this movie, people won't call you 'numb nuts.'
sorry, i gotta do it again.......buh-dum bum
please stop that.
dude...why do you hate me?
i'd just like u to try REALLY HARD to NOT reply to this. i know it hurts, u just want to reply and reply and say COOL or YEAH, i know how it feels, we've all been through that. i'd like to help u get over it and possibly advance past the latest overposting sensation, into sumthing tolerable.
One thing you'll realize, El Duderino, is that Pubrick is very 'honest'. Don't take anything he says too seriously, or you'll find yourself wanting to slit your wrists, or even worse leave the Xixax boards. He's a good guy, though. :)
yeah yeah, i know, i just dont like people talking to me like that, but we cleared it up and all is fine
I looked up Nia Vardalos on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0889522/) and saw this interesting entry:
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Miscellaneous Crew - filmography
1. Sorority Sluts 3: Spring Break! (The Outtakes) (2001) (V) (caterer)
... aka Porno Outtakes (2001) (V) (USA)
Quote from: RaviI looked up Nia Vardalos on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0889522/) and saw this interesting entry:
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Miscellaneous Crew - filmography
1. Sorority Sluts 3: Spring Break! (The Outtakes) (2001) (V) (caterer)
... aka Porno Outtakes (2001) (V) (USA)
Now I like it.
Quote from: SoNowThen... I do. And I haven't even seen it. .
You're not missing anything, i had to go to the hospital after seeing it, and im not kitting, my stomick went bazerk, and i couldn't go home to the dope man because of that, i fucking hate MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING.
But this man i like and his also greek, i think anyways....
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He was naked you know !!!
wow. 26 posts it took u to come up with the idea of talking like dr strangelove.
here's hoping it doesn't take u another 26 to realise the joke is stupid.
Quote from: Pubrickwow. 26 posts it took u to come up with the idea of talking like dr strangelove.
here's hoping it doesn't take u another 26 to realise the joke is stupid.
how is he talking like dr strangelove?
Quote from: the real philQuote from: Pubrickwow. 26 posts it took u to come up with the idea of talking like dr strangelove.
here's hoping it doesn't take u another 26 to realise the joke is stupid.
how is he talking like dr strangelove?
Quote from: Dr Strangeloveim not kitting, my stomick went bazerk
Quote from: Pubrickwow. 26 posts it took u to come up with the idea of talking like dr strangelove.
here's hoping it doesn't take u another 26 to realise the joke is stupid.
Comming from denmark make's my vocabulery wery bad, so i just uses the words i can spell and know what mens, so im sorry if it upsets your little world so musch.
But you must realize that i did not attend to make a bad joke, of petter Sellers fantastic performence in Dr. Strangelove
Also im about to find a new name because of the fact that it just aren't swinging...
Quote from: Chest RockwellQuote from: the real phil
how is he talking like dr strangelove?
Quote from: Dr Strangeloveim not kitting, my stomick went bazerk
haha that pretty funny, i didn't even notice that.
but anyway give the good doctor a break, he's just adjusting to this place.
Quote from: hacksparrowQuote from: CinephileI hate that it received so much hate. Give the movie a break - some films are fun romantic comedies and this was one of them. At least give Nia Vardalos the credit she deserves this time because I don't think she'll ever deserve it again.
What credit does she deserve? Don't get me wrong; I'm happy as hell for her because most actresses don't get overnight success like that unless they're prime Maxim material, so it's great to see someone that doesn't look like Barbie to get some recognition for once. But the movie was thoroughly mediocre, so what credit does she deserve that the writers of, for example, What Women Want or Just Married wouldn't deserve as well?
i have a feeling that whoever did this movie(writing and directing) knew while writing that it's going to be a huge blockbuster anyway, so they didn't try very hard. It's awfully plain. It could have been done a bit better.
Quote from: mollyIt could have been done a bit better.
Any ideas as to how it could've been done a bit better?
Quote from: Cinephile 9000Any ideas as to how it could've been done a bit better?
Didn't she workshop it as a one-woman show? Put the show on HBO, like John Leguizamo's stuff. Think about how awful it would be if Freak or Sexaholix was an actual movie, with other people interpreting the caricatures that Leguizamo does in his show. It would be embarassing and it would take away the personal, heartfelt touch that only the original performer can really bring. That's why I disliked MBFGW.
Quote from: Cinephile 9000Quote from: mollyIt could have been done a bit better.
Any ideas as to how it could've been done a bit better?
oh, forget it. Water under the bridge. The problem is that this movie isn't funny at all.
Quote from: Dr. StrangeloveQuote from: Pubrickwow. 26 posts it took u to come up with the idea of talking like dr strangelove.
here's hoping it doesn't take u another 26 to realise the joke is stupid.
Comming from denmark make's my vocabulery wery bad, so i just uses the words i can spell and know what mens, so im sorry if it upsets your little world so musch.
But you must realize that i did not attend to make a bad joke, of petter Sellers fantastic performence in Dr. Strangelove
Also im about to find a new name because of the fact that it just aren't swinging...
Don't change your name or anything because of Pubrick. We all just thought you were impersonation Strangelove, and knew that would get really old really fast. If that's not the case, then carry on, good man. Welcome to Xixax, by the way...
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Don't change your name or anything because of Pubrick. We all just thought you were impersonation Strangelove, and knew that would get really old really fast. If that's not the case, then carry on, good man. Welcome to Xixax, by the way...
It's not the case!!!
I just just weren't able to make anothe sentance with the vocabulary i've got.
And by the way, thanks for welcomming me !!!
Dr. Strangelove aka. The Obstruction
we're watching this movie in French class....with french subtitles. :|