any one else like this film? i thought it was great -- especially first 2 acts -- the 3rd act kind of fell into a humdrum action film -- however it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre". i just love the early scenes with denzel and ethan driving around and talking...wonderful...havent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....
one of the best movies i have seen in the past few years, and top notch acting all around
And i hate ethan hawke but he was great in the movie, a good mix all around, and i know it was helped by that fact that the directer knows this world in and out and he brought to the film honesty .
Quote from: cowboykurtisany one else like this film? i thought it was great -- especially first 2 acts -- the 3rd act kind of fell into a humdrum action film -- however it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre". i just love the early scenes with denzel and ethan driving around and talking...wonderful...havent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....
Yeah, the third act was way too farfetched. What a coincidence of all the gang members, it had to be uncle to the girl that Ethan's char. rescued. And Ethan's char. would've smarter to just hand over his gun. But like you said, the first two acts are great. Was so happy Ethan received an Oscar nomination cause I thought he was perfect.
Quote from: cowboykurtishavent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....
I was surprised how much I enjoyed Tears Of The Sun, it was marketed as another Black Hawk Down, but it didn't look that good from the trailer. But I found myself engaged in the story and cried at the end. Replacement Killers, however, is a very poor John Woo wannabe rip-off. I'll say he's getting better with each film.
like many others, i had some problems with the 3rd act... but mr. washington's performance is one of the best i have seen
ever!
Quote from: cowboykurtishowever it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre".
...but they weren't buddies.
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Quote from: dufresneQuote from: cowboykurtishowever it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre".
...but they weren't buddies.
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exactly -- hence the "interesting turn" in the genre...
I thought the ending was so bad that it has negatively affected my opinion of the entire film. But now that I think about it...it's got a lot of good stuff in it.
Tears Of The Sun wasn't that bad at all. Nor was it anything really special. What I'm really interested in is King Arthur...
in every review i read, it always noted how great denzel was in the 'bad guy' role. so right then you knew he was the bad guy, instead of finding out gradually through watching, like you were supposed to. but the thing is, denzel is so damn good, you truly forget that he's the classic 'bad guy', and just think, well, he's got his reasons. youre very much like ehtan's character, always one step behind, ready to leave, but then denzel gets you right back.
and the third act, while definitely having its problems, most notably ethan jumping from the roof onto the hood of denzels car and then denzel being the one who gets hurt, still. Cliff Curtis is the man, without question. Put him in the Macy Gray role and he'd STILL be awesome. And Denzel and Ethans final dialouge scene in front of everyone is absolutely fantastic. I could certainly do without all the action but its worth sitting thorugh just to see that.
What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?
i dont know why, and its actually rather sad, but denzel washington annoys the hell outta me. its not like he tends to be over the top or anything, he just gets me. he gets me in the worst way, and it ruins every cinematic experience for me.
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What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?
to answer your question, and well to put your Existence in some perspective.
it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .
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it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .
You're
Anyway, this movie was surprisingly good despite everything that was mentioned about the last act
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What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?
to answer your question, and well to put your Existence in some perspective.
it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .
got a problem, bitterscotch? take it to pm, quit spreading your bile.
didn't like the third act, loved the rest, despise ethan hawke becuz he has uma thurman. love her.......
Absolutely love Training Day. Saw it when it came out and I now own it. One of my top films for 2001. I've still yet to find the major problems with the 3rd act, but that's all right.
Quote from: Pedro the WombatAbsolutely love Training Day. Saw it when it came out and I now own it. One of my top films for 2001. I've still yet to find the major problems with the 3rd act, but that's all right.
Pedro, you the MAN! This film is nearly flawless. I saw nothing wrong with the 3rd act....and the car dialogue is fucking GREAT!
Quote from: punchdrunk23Quote from: Pedro the WombatAbsolutely love Training Day. Saw it when it came out and I now own it. One of my top films for 2001. I've still yet to find the major problems with the 3rd act, but that's all right.
Pedro, you the MAN! This film is nearly flawless. I saw nothing wrong with the 3rd act....and the car dialogue is fucking GREAT!
no no punchy...YOU the man!
Washington & Fuqua Reteaming for Superfly
Source: Variety
Denzel Washington and director Antoine Fuqua are in talks to reunite on a biopic of Harlem heroin kingpin Frank Lucas. Under the working title The Return of Superfly, the film is being produced by Brian Grazer and Imagine Entertainment for Universal Pictures.
Lucas grew up in rural, segregated North Carolina. In the early 1970s, he became the biggest heroin dealer in Harlem with a smuggling scheme that imported the stuff out of Southeast Asia in the caskets of Vietnam soldiers.
The script, written by Steven Zaillian, centers on narcotics lawman Richie Roberts' struggle to bring down Lucas, whose flamboyant style earned him the street name "Superfly." Lucas goes on to help Roberts hunt down dirty cops and overseas connections.
Imagine and Universal hope to go into production on "Superfly" late this summer. Washington and Fuqua last collaborated on 2001's Training Day, for which Washington received an Oscar.
Hi, just browsing and I'm surprised that there hasn't been talk of how brilliant Denzel was in this movie. In Training Day, Denzel did some of the best acting I've seen for a long time! Does anyone agree?
Quote from: AA_PrincessHi, just browsing and I'm surprised that there hasn't been talk of how brilliant Denzel was in this movie. In Training Day, Denzel did some of the best acting I've seen for a long time! Does anyone agree?
training day was good.and i enjoyed the film...but for denzel he was mmmuuuuccchhh better in HURRICANE.....
Fuqua Ditches Denzel
In the wake of director Antoine Fuqua’s departure from American Gangster, Universal scraps plans for ambitious crime film starring Denzel and Benicio del Toro.
Sometimes, a gangster can get taken down by his closest friends.
American Gangster, a big-budget crime film intended to star Denzel Washington and Benicio Del Toro, has been shut down a mere month before it was supposed to start filming. Director Antoine Fuqua, who directed Washington to an Oscar with Training Day, appears to have set the wheels in motion when he abandoned the film just days ago over “creative differences”. Now Universal Pictures, which was to have put out the gangster flick, has decided instead to say goodbye to their little friend.
Written by Steve Zaillian (Schindler’s List, Gangs of New York), the film was to be produced by uber-producer Brian Grazer. The Gangster script is based on the story of Harlem drug lord Frank Lucas, who rose to power while smuggling heroin into the country in the caskets of deceased Vietnam soldiers being returned to America. After an arrest that came at the hands of New York detective Richie Roberts, Lucas turned on the drug associates and dishonest police who facilitated his drug-running scheme.
According to Daily Variety, Washington was to have played Lucas to Del Toro’s Roberts. Both actors had pay-or-play deals intact that will now need to be settled.
The last several days were reportedly filled with frantic studio executives trying to find a replacement for Fuqua. With the main consideration being an ability to envision the violent crime film as something that could appeal to a broader audience, however, Universal found the job a difficult one to fill. Ultimately, the studio decided it best to not allow the film’s budget to approach an $80 million range that it deemed as difficult to recoup at the box office.
"We thank the actors and crew who worked on this project for their time and dedication," a Universal spokesman said. "We look forward to making future projects with Denzel Washington, Benicio Del Toro and all of the individuals that were involved in the development of this project."
Del Toro and Washington will move on to the next projects on their busy production schedules; American Gangster now sleeps with the fishes.