I wanna watch a movie that i don't know anything about. i want to be totally surprised when i see Phillip Baker Hall in some movie. Let it be indy, foreign (i like reading subtitles), or something that didn't really get much publicity, thanks...
crash, you are an idiot. why are you trying to be like some kind of a director prodigy? you're not gonna amount to anything...
thank you for putting me down... but did you know that i am rubber
...and you are glue...
...and everything you say bounces of me and sticks to you?
you're right i'm sorry... can we be friends?
try watching some of your old home movies your father took of you as a child. your dad showed them to me, they were brilliant -- if you have to view one of them, id definately recommend "christmas 1987" -- all after that is downhill.
Quote from: CrashI wanna watch a movie that i don't know anything about. i want to be totally surprised when i see Phillip Baker Hall in some movie. Let it be indy, foreign (i like reading subtitles), or something that didn't really get much publicity, thanks...
Watch "Poison" by Todd Haynes, or "The Falls" by Peter Greenaway...
Quote from: Film StudentWatch "Poison" by Todd Haynes
I'm sorry, but I just saw this movie the other week and was pretty disapointed. I thought it was just okay, not something I would ever want to see again.
So, I decided I should give Haynes another shot and last week watched Safe, I thought maybe that one might be better because I love Julianne Moore, but I just did NOT get into this film. I thought it was worse than Poison.
I guess I just don't like Haynes, though I'm sure I'll rent Far From Heaven.
Quote from: Crashi want to be totally surprised when i see Phillip Baker Hall ...
all i know is when i first saw him screwing that chick in magnolia i was pretty darn surprised
i just sat there thinking " well thats just not right"
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: Film StudentWatch "Poison" by Todd Haynes
I'm sorry, but I just saw this movie the other week and was pretty disapointed. I thought it was just okay, not something I would ever want to see again.
So, I decided I should give Haynes another shot and last week watched Safe, I thought maybe that one might be better because I love Julianne Moore, but I just did NOT get into this film. I thought it was worse than Poison.
I guess I just don't like Haynes, though I'm sure I'll rent Far From Heaven.
Haynes is an aquired taste... I watched "Safe" first and had to think about it for a long time... then I watched it again and decided that I really liked it a lot... then I watched "Far From Heaven" and that blew me away... "Poison" was the last one I watched, and while it wasn't nearly as good as the other two, I thought what he tried to do was really gutsy and interesting. I haven't seen "Velvet Goldmine" or "Superstar", but they're on my list...
I got it:
Watch every Jim Jarmusch film... in a row. If that doesn't fuck with your outlook on life then I don't know what will. Watch them in this order:
Stranger Than Paradise
Down By Law
Mystery Train
Night on Earth
Dead Man
Ghost Dog: way of the samurai
Quote from: Film StudentI got it:
Watch every Jim Jarmusch film... in a row. If that doesn't fuck with your outlook on life then I don't know what will.
right now we need a smile face for this emotion
" what the fuck is this guy going on about ?????????"
for now i will use this :?
hey oklahoma, you got a beeeeeg storm heading your way. we had hail in utah, you will prob get twirling cows and grain.
Quote from: bluhey oklahoma, you got a beeeeeg storm heading your way. we had hail in utah, you will prob get twirling cows and grain.
rock n roll.
thanks for the heads up.
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Watch every Jim Jarmusch film... in a row. If that doesn't fuck with your outlook on life then I don't know what will.
right now we need a smile face for this emotion
" what the fuck is this guy going on about ?????????"
for now i will use this :?
Don't fuck with me buttersnatch.
student, what happened to the peace ???? please oh please do not tell me you are a hypocrite
Nice student, thanks for altering my pic
But isnt homophobia against your world view , its not against mine
man on man butt sex is gross
but i got your point
First... what the hell are you talking about?
Second... How do you know what my worldview is?
Third... Yes, gay butt sex is gross...
Quote from: Film StudentFirst... what the hell are you talking about?
Second... How do you know what my worldview is?
Third... Yes, butt sex is gross...
i agree now leave my pic alone and i will lay off
I don't know what you're talking about regarding your pic... it looks to me like you have none at the moment... but i'm scared so i'll just say "oh please lay off mr big scary buttersnatch man"
dude just relax ok
wtf? whats wrong with people. does ones oniens grow during spring time?
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: Film StudentWatch "Poison" by Todd Haynes
So, I decided I should give Haynes another shot and last week watched Safe, I thought maybe that one might be better because I love Julianne Moore, but I just did NOT get into this film. I thought it was worse than Poison.
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i also coudnt stand safe. i thought julianne was great -- it was shot very nice -- the tone was amazing as well -- i just couldn't get into it. i just sat there thinking: so this woman is sick from the enviornment -- thats sad, but who really gives a shit -- i have this same reaction when i see film dealing with cancer -- yes cancer is horrible, but do i really want to watch a movie about it -- i dont think the subject adapted to a good film -- it seems like he was trying to "educate", instead of telling an engaging story -- it simply wasn't interesting... far from heaven on the other hand, was magnificent,
Quote from: bluhey oklahoma, you got a beeeeeg storm heading your way. we had hail in utah, you will prob get twirling cows and grain.
huh? xixax.com? ... what?... my buddy jonny says that xixax.com is a website about movies! silly me, i actually came here a forecast reading! if i need weather predictions i'll ask my meteorologist clint boone.
THE MILLION DOLLAR HOTEL
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is this the wim wenders film with mel gibson? many people i've spoke to about this film, said it was garbage -- its left a bad taste in my mouth so i never saw it -- is it good in your opinion?
Watch Festen (The Celebration) or Jägerna. Nice skandinavian films :-D
Quote from: Butterscotch JonesQuote from: Crashi want to be totally surprised when i see Phillip Baker Hall ...
all i know is when i first saw him screwing that chick in magnolia i was pretty darn surprised
i just sat there thinking " well thats just not right"
Lol, me too. Not really cause it was PBH, I didn't know him very well at the time, not really because it was sex either...but still I was fucking shocked for some reason...just because...it's just...there! All of a sudden...there it is! With a huge, fast PUSH IN and everything...it's different. It's one of those..."is he? is she? oh...my...god." moments...which can be great moments.
Anyway, see any of these movies that I'm guessing you haven't heard of. I can't be sure of course..
the 400 blows
all the real girls
alphaville
band of outsiders
bottle rocket
contempt
cq
drugstore cowboy
george washington
fear (1996 version w/ mark whalberg...fucking awesome bad movie)
flirting with disaster
the long goodbye
mccabe & mrs. miller
rio bravo
shoot the piano player
they shoot horses, don't they?
you can count on me
See George Washington and All the Real Girls right
now if you want to see the best new filmmaker since PTA!
Quote from: cowboykurtisQuote from: KeenerTHE MILLION DOLLAR HOTEL
is this the wim wenders film with mel gibson? many people i've spoke to about this film, said it was garbage -- its left a bad taste in my mouth so i never saw it -- is it good in your opinion?
Yeah...everyone hates it but it's one of my all time favorites. Screw people...people say Punch Drunk Love sucks. I don't trust people.
Quote from: KeenerQuote from: cowboykurtisQuote from: KeenerTHE MILLION DOLLAR HOTEL
is this the wim wenders film with mel gibson? many people i've spoke to about this film, said it was garbage -- its left a bad taste in my mouth so i never saw it -- is it good in your opinion?
Yeah...everyone hates it but it's one of my all time favorites. Screw people...people say Punch Drunk Love sucks. I don't trust people.
well, the people i listen to advice from are people whos opinion i trust. and those very people say it sucks. this poses a predicament -- i dont know enought about you to trust your opinion neccesarily. you say you like punch drunk love, but i dont know why...many people like it for reasons that i find trite -- who's opinion do i trust? ok ok, enough of that.
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Im really interested to see this one, is it really that good eb? Costly import to the UK ya see.
edit: they just released it r2 on some budget collection, and I can get it for £4.50.
Quote from: cowboykurtisQuote from: KeenerQuote from: cowboykurtisQuote from: KeenerTHE MILLION DOLLAR HOTEL
is this the wim wenders film with mel gibson? many people i've spoke to about this film, said it was garbage -- its left a bad taste in my mouth so i never saw it -- is it good in your opinion?
Yeah...everyone hates it but it's one of my all time favorites. Screw people...people say Punch Drunk Love sucks. I don't trust people.
well, the people i listen to advice from are people whos opinion i trust. and those very people say it sucks. this poses a predicament -- i dont know enought about you to trust your opinion neccesarily. you say you like punch drunk love, but i dont know why...many people like it for reasons that i find trite -- who's opinion do i trust? ok ok, enough of that.
It's worth the price of a rental.
Quote from: redlumQuote from: ebeaman69they shoot horses, don't they?
Im really interested to see this one, is it really that good eb? Costly import to the UK ya see.
edit: they just released it r2 on some budget collection, and I can get it for £4.50.
I think it's really great...but that's me. It doesn't seem to be that well-known. I guess you should try to rent it first if at all possible.
The War Of The Buttons.
The Field (the film from which my avatar originated)
I don't know what you've heard of, but...
1) Koyaanisquatsi (weird / brilliant documentary type thing with music from Phillip Glass... [ace])
2) Buffalo 66 (You've probably heard of it, but if not: rent it for God's sakes, it's my one of my favourite films and is so so so so so wonderful... [ace])
3) The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeouise (very funny, very weird, generally superb. Major influence on people like Wes Anderson...)
4) Magnolia (A strange little movie - hasn't got the respect it deserves. Not many people [particularly on this forum] seem to have heard of it...)
5) Bergman films (I would reccomend Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona...)
I don't know - I'm kind of running low on inspiration here...
Quote from: children with angelsI don't know what you've heard of, but...
1) Koyaanisquatsi (weird / brilliant documentary type thing with music from Phillip Glass... [ace])
saw this a few years ago. blew me AWAY. probbaly one of the most visually striking images in life i've ever seen -- i felt shaky all day. fucking amazing. have you seen the dvd that was currently released? how is the transfer? i think i saw a vhs copy that might have been full screen -- do you know what the original aspect ratio is? i would love to see this baby anamorphic -- i've got to see this in the theater -- i think i would wet myself.
a jim jarmusch movie thats really strange but awesome to me is dead man
Quote from: children with angels2) Buffalo 66 (You've probably heard of it, but if not: rent it for God's sakes, it's my one of my favourite films and is so so so so so wonderful... [ace])
Good choice.
Try Six Ways to Sunday by Adam Bernstein its not to everyone’s taste but its kinda cool.
If you want to try something different watch Timecode (i've only saw a little bit on cable the other night & didn't want to spoil it so i turned it off, i'll have to keep my eye out for when its back on) by Mike Figgis.
If you want something foreign try Pusher by Nicolas Winding Refn. Its a top film.
You have heard of and seen Amelie by Jean-Pierre Jeunet haven't you?
Something English, try Sexy Beast by Jonathan Glazer.
And finally if you want something cult, Doom Generation by Gregg Araki, I didn't really like it but..... Rose McGowan! Lots of other people tell me it excellent, but as pointed out earlier what do people know!
Peace
Quote from: penfold0101[If you want something foreign try Pusher by Nicolas Winding Refn. Its a top film.
And finally if you want something cult, Doom Generation by Gregg Araki, I didn't really like it but..... Rose McGowan! Lots of other people tell me it excellent, but as pointed out earlier what do people know!
speaking of refn: have you seen fear X? i saew it aat sundnace -- it was really really really awful -- it makes me never want to see another one of refn's films -- however i hear pusher and bleeder are good...
and the doom generation is one of the biggest peices of shit i've seen...but i've got to give it to you about rose mcgowen -- she can have my children if she wants.
Quote from: cowboykurtisspeaking of refn: have you seen fear X? i saew it aat sundnace -- it was really really really awful -- it makes me never want to see another one of refn's films -- however i hear pusher and bleeder are good...
and the doom generation is one of the biggest peices of shit i've seen...but i've got to give it to you about rose mcgowen -- she can have my children if she wants.
Well on the strength of Pusher i would try any of his films
Doom generation looked to me like it was trying too hard to become a Cult film.
Over obvious symbolism.
Some strange dialogue.
Over indulgence in violence and Sex.
peace
pusher is okay, but bleeder is really good. i want to see fear x despite the fact that it has gotten a lot of mediocre reviews because of the trailer wich looks really nice. sorry to hear that bad things about it.
"The Man With a Movie camera" by Dziga Vertov... in case you don't already know the film.
Re the Todd Haynes thread a bit back...
I think Safe is the best movie of the nineties. He is a director easily on par with P.T. Anderson, Wes Anderson, Alexander Payne... any of the really intelligent ones.
And none of those guys has come up with anything as singularly shattering as Safe. Maybe Haynes saw all the other nineties directors whipping everything into a frenzy and decided that smoothing, isolating, toning down, focusing... these were methods just as equal to the task of implanting images/characters/ideas in your mind and heart. And I think it worked so well, he hasn't yet been able to top it, nor have most other auteurs.
Also, a few of the posts here on Sunday were completely unacceptable for their irrelevance to the subject, first, and secondly for their knee-jerk, infantile anti-gay attitude. To use words like "gross" to describe other people's perfectly legitimate sex lives reveals a) a complete lack of understanding of human sexuality, and b) a childish, ignorant small-mindedness.
Any more of this nonsense, and I will have to report this behavior to the list moderators. It's insulting to everyone's intelligence, not to mention any gay members of this message board, of which I am one. I'm not easily offended-only by simplistic stupidity perpetrated by those who seem not to realize that somewhere in your family, somewhere on your street, somewhere in your school, there is someone who primarily seeks relationships with the same sex- but these remarks were insidiously inappropriate.
Quote from: godardianRe the Todd Haynes thread a bit back...
I think Safe is the best movie of the nineties. He is a director easily on par with P.T. Anderson, Wes Anderson, Alexander Payne...
And none of those guys has come up with anything as singularly shattering as Safe.
I'll admit I didn't get into this film (while I appreciated it, I just wasn't up for a film about a sofa).
Any of the films of the other three directors you mentioned squashes this film artistically.... ESPECIALLY Magnolia.
I know it's just a matter of opinion, but Safe was a tad crusty.
Well, Safe is as much a film about a sofa as Magnolia is a film about frogs...
The film is about the difficulty of really, truly being an individual, a free agent in our world. If nature abhors a vacuum, culture abhors it more- there's scarcely a moment in this film when the characters aren't being told, implicitly or overtly, what to think, what the right path for their life is, how to feel, how they should express their feelings. In the guise of a film about finding an "answer," it's actually a film about how slippery and deceptive most answers are, especially the ones that seem obvious or easy.
So, that's just for the record- if you see Safe and think it's about a black couch or being allergic to chemicals or a piece of New Age propaganda, you're not seeing it for what it is- an exploration of how pervasive and duplicitious certain modes of thinking can become, with all of us as the hapless ciphers who must be slotted into these ever-shifting categories and "answers." That ending would've been a happy, unskeptical one in any other movie... why does it feel so unbearably bleak in this one? Because this is a sad, wise movie, with impeccable restraint in visuals and pacing. I own the DVD and watch it constantly... and if you found it "crusty," I'd advise watching it again w/ the commentary on, which provides some good clues as to the actual intentions behind the film.
Yeah... thanks ... the couch bit was a joke... thought you had listened to the commentary in which he says that someone asked if it was a film about a sofa.
I would watch this film again... I admitted I wasn't in the mood for it... though I didn't need to listen to the commentary to guide me through it, but thanks for suggesting that I did.
I watched it and got very disintrested very fast (no matter how duplicitous it is), but giving it another chance, I watched part of the commentary later that night and found that not adding anything to the experience, so I stopped it and shipped it back.
So, maybe I'll see it again some time in the future to give it another shot, but I could never see this being nearly as good as Magnolia.
You know, it's always a fine line between patronizing and informative... but please believe I am (almost) always trying for the latter... :roll:
No harm done... really
Also, another one along the lines of Safe some may not have seen: Nic Roeg's Walkabout. It gives me a similar feeling to Safe, and I believe them both to be about a very similar subject. They are quite different movies, though.