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Title: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 15, 2021, 10:10:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL6R3HmQfPc

TONIGHT

Not a big fan of the 18er and I'm expecting to be disappointed yet excited to see it nonetheless.

So...given that DGG is ignoring the entire franchise except the OG Carpenter, his Halloween '18 is technically Halloween 2, and this is 3? Or do we acknowledge all that he is ignoring and call it Halloween 3 2, or maybe 2 3? (perhaps we should ask the Blank Check boys)

https://twitter.com/AADowd/status/1448739290675044363

:yabbse-huh: :hammer: :splat:

Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Reel on October 15, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
Yeah, I didn't like the 2018 one either and much prefer Rob Zombie's, but the world is a better place when we have Halloween's being released in October
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 15, 2021, 10:43:06 AM
Gonna watch the Zombie 2 tonight. Don't like his remake of 1, but I hear from certain camps that his follow-up is in many ways preferable.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: WorldForgot on October 15, 2021, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: eward on October 15, 2021, 10:43:06 AM
Gonna watch the Zombie 2 tonight. Don't like his remake of 1, but I hear from certain camps that his follow-up is in many ways preferable.

Yayyy ^_^ Make sure to watch the Director's Cut.
That, Lords of Salem, and House of 1000 Corpses make such good comfort watches.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 15, 2021, 01:37:06 PM
Longtime fan of House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, so I'm feeling somewhat hopeful.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: WorldForgot on October 15, 2021, 01:42:28 PM
The Devil's Rejects be like;
What if Empire Strikes Back featured Michael Berryman, Priscilla Barnes, Danny Trejo, Ken Foree, got barbecue'd in hellfire by the Chainsaw Massacre 2 Stan-ing Mason Family-ite swamp spawn of backland Texas in the midst of a Peckinpah slaughter spiral?
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 15, 2021, 01:45:46 PM
Sounds like a fuckin stellar night o' cinema if ya ask me!!!!
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Yes on October 15, 2021, 07:01:43 PM
I hated 2018 because of how disingenuous it is. Priding itself on being a "true" sequel yet falling into many of the same tropes of said sequels. It's completely devoid of suspense and minimalism of the classic. Just seemed to misinterpret why the original holds up.

And here they seemed to double down on making Michael Myers an invincible one man SWAT team which is what Rob Zombie did twice

But whatever, I'll watch it eventually and pretend it's a Friday the 13ty instead or something
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: WorldForgot on October 16, 2021, 09:37:50 AM
This movie iz such a mess. Especially tonally. There's one "beat" where they try to move from a supposedly emotionally affecting humorous anecdote (already failing to walk that tight-rope) to ECU of someone crying, all in the same take within one car, and you get the sense that no one was sure if this was the Fun One or the Serious One. And almost every scene feels that uncertain of itself.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: wrongright on October 16, 2021, 01:50:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RichJuz/status/1449038776559448073
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: WorldForgot on October 16, 2021, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: wrongright on October 16, 2021, 01:50:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RichJuz/status/1449038776559448073

They're movies about (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/TromaLogo.png)

No, but, seriously like, I do think horror movies can have affective psychological dimensions and that they can speak to varied experiences of trauma or survival. They can also have social commentary - but the Tommy storyline here doesn't play on the same tonal register as the rest of the movie. There's like three Halloween movies jammed in here.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 16, 2021, 03:21:34 PM
Seeing it tomorrow. By the way, WF, I watched Zombie's H2 last night and quite liked it. Waaaaay better than its predecessor, imo.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: polkablues on October 16, 2021, 03:39:55 PM
50% boilerplate slasher flick, 50% hamfisted fan service. 100% unmemorable.

I would LOVE if this movie was actually some sort of treatise on collective trauma, because at least then it would be about something other than "being a sequel."
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: wrongright on October 16, 2021, 03:43:51 PM
Despite all the Scream-isms bringing it down, I though H20 tackled the trauma angle much better.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 16, 2021, 03:50:24 PM
Honestly, Zombie's H2 tackles the trauma angle pretty dang effectively, I think - in ways that frequently surprised me.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Yes on October 17, 2021, 03:35:46 AM
This incredibly may be the dumbest Halloween movie (which says a lot since this franchise involves Michael being drop-kicked by Busta Rhymes) if not the dumbest, most constructally insipid studio release in quite sometime. Does not meet the definition of a film--it's hardly even an act of a film. Michael's impact inciting mob mentality is brazenly tone-deaf and this lacks the empathy and psychology of the Zombie movies. But somehow, still better than the 2018 one. The overall ugly incompetence generates some brutal kills reminiscent of any nasty 80s slasher knockoff. There's a kill involving a gun and a door that's almost as funny and prankish as Michael donning the sheet and glasses to play ghost in the original
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 18, 2021, 06:39:47 PM
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This whole movie should have just been the flashbacks to 78, which, despite sometimes feeling like an Amazon Prime show, I felt were generally well-done. The Loomis stand-in was seamless.

The rest was a slog.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 20, 2021, 04:11:43 PM
Best part of Halloween Kills:

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Big John/Little John - smoking doobs at midnight, watching a Cassavetes flick. Right on.
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: WorldForgot on October 20, 2021, 04:13:00 PM
Agree. That duo brought the goods.
Good gosh did Tommy's storyline not work for me though. Plus
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one-room performance from Jamie Lee Curtis and it isn't even affecting :\
Title: Re: Halloween Kills
Post by: Alethia on October 20, 2021, 04:20:46 PM
Yeah that was such a bummer. Were they going for, like, a subtle nod to Halloween II, 1? Bc her plight is basically the same there.