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Film Discussion => The Vault => Topic started by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 08:45:41 AM

Title: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 08:45:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV29mRxIO6I

I really wish he'd ditch Kaminski already.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: RudyBlatnoyd on September 15, 2021, 04:49:27 PM
Really, why? The cinematography looks pretty gorgeous to me. There aren't many studio films these days that look this good.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 04:53:26 PM
It looks good, it's just every movie they've made in the last twenty years more or less looks like this, with minor variations.

Bring Back Cundey!!!!!
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: RudyBlatnoyd on September 15, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
I'm just hoping that this marks the start of a career revival for Spielberg, because everything since Bridge of Spies has not really been up to snuff, in my opinion.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 05:21:19 PM
I am in the minority of people that actually quite enjoyed Ready Player One, but I basically agree with you.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: RudyBlatnoyd on September 15, 2021, 05:34:07 PM
I should've said everything after Bridge of Spies. I actually like BOS more than anything he's done since that great run in the early noughties.

Anyway, fingers crossed for this!
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Yes on September 15, 2021, 05:43:32 PM
I'm not a fan of Spielberg/Kaminiski's desaturated(?) color but this looks immaculate. It's all about the staging and blocking anyway

Bridges of Spies was solidly crafted. Ready Player One was confused but fine. Haven't greatly enjoyed anything since Munich/War of Worlds in 2005
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 05:47:37 PM
Agree with Rudy, Bridge of Spies is a masterpiece, and sits right next to A.I./Minority/Catch, which was one of the strongest runs of his career. I dig 3/4 of War of the Worlds and Lincolnz cool too, but otherwise it's a pretty spotty output mid-aughts on.

But I still love the guy.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: wilberfan on September 15, 2021, 06:19:52 PM
Since we're looking back, the last Spielberg that really impressed me was Munich.   I enjoyed the stretch from A.I. thru Munich.  (Although I liked the front, "Kubrick-half" of A.I.  The "Spielberg-half" disappointed me.)

War Horse turned me into Moonwatcher from '2001':  I wanted to smash things.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 15, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
Quote from: wilberfan on September 15, 2021, 06:19:52 PM
I enjoyed the stretch from A.I. thru Munich.  (Although I liked the front, "Kubrick-half" of A.I.  The "Spielberg-half" disappointed me.)

The "Spielberg-half" is more Kubrick than people realize.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: RudyBlatnoyd on September 16, 2021, 01:53:51 AM
I actually kinda dug War Horse. It's like Au Hasard Balthasar for kids. Underrated IMO.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alma on September 16, 2021, 09:07:17 AM
Yeah I liked War Horse too. Also one of the few people I know who liked The Post.

Agree about his work with Kaminski looking a bit samey - I do trust that he will shoot the dancing well though, not just relentless cuts and not showing people's feet as seems to be the norm now.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 16, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
I couldn't get into War Horse. I watched Tin-Tin in 3D last summer and had a good time; watched Hugo in 3D directly after and was so blown away that the joys of Tin-Tin faded pretty quickly.

I recall liking The Post the one time I saw it in theaters; it was nearing the end of Trump: Year I and I really needed it. No idea if it would hold up now.

The BFG had some sporadic magic but ultimately rang pretty hollow. I don't disagree with any criticisms leveled at Ready Player One but I still think that movie is a blast.

So yeah, Bridge of Spies is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on September 16, 2021, 10:22:21 AM
I wasn't blown away by Lincoln in theaters but the rewatch value is insane, I'm always throwing that shit up on Sunday afternoons. There is something so cozy about that one.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 16, 2021, 11:14:28 AM
Oh Lincoln is super cozy, for sure. Especially on a chilly fall Sunday...wrap yourself in a cable-knit, maybe with a cup of Earl Grey and a cookie, and watch Lincoln...throw on a little Amistad afterward if you're feeling adventurous.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: PinkTeeth on September 16, 2021, 02:07:26 PM
Best thing about Lincoln was when the guy goes ..."Hooow Daaare Yooou..."

That has be like the top of a mountain for an actor, right? To be directed by a legend in a movie about a legend, in full period costume with muttonchops and everything, delivering a line like that, center frame, with a push in.

I should watch it again, I'm sure there's more I should remember...

Meanwhile, I've seen BFG like 5 times. Love it.

Oh, and I'm excited for WSS.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: RudyBlatnoyd on September 18, 2021, 06:19:28 AM
I would personally argue that – excluding The Terminal, which isn't very good – the run from AI to Munich is the pinnacle of Spielberg's career so far. I think a case can be made that all of those movies (AI, Minority Report, Catch Me If You Can, War of the Worlds, Munich) are masterpieces, in their different ways.

I wonder if fatigue from being so consistently awesome explains how he fell so far so fast with the woeful Crystal Skull.
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 18, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
I think The Terminal stinks lol easily his worst. I rewatched Crystal Skull fairly recently and, while it is on the whole quite bad, the first hour or so is sort of watchable. But at a certain point it just descends into CGI hell and there's no going back.

But yes that run, if not quite the pinnacle for me, is an elongated period of pretty sustained greatness, particularly the first three films. His true pinnacle imo has got to be Raiders through Schindler, the only hiccups being Always - which I have an unironic soft spot for - and Hook. His producer credits from that period too - Back to the Future, Poltergeist, Gremlins, Roger Rabbit, Goonies, etc - help kick it over the top.

Hell, before that, starting with Duel, his only misstep is 1941, which, despite coming up rather short in the laughs department, is still pretty impressively crafted.

What can I say? He's got talent.

Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: wilberfan on September 18, 2021, 11:08:42 AM
Jesus, Marty is amazing as Jiminy....  :rofl:

And I really liked The Terminal. :therethere:
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alethia on September 18, 2021, 11:20:04 AM
"Steven, when are ya gonna make THE BIG ONE?" Lolz
Title: Re: West Side Story
Post by: Alexandro on March 26, 2022, 06:44:38 PM
I cringed ever since the news came out of this being made and once it was released I doubted the praise, but once I saw it it blew me away.

It's not only the virtuosic, impeccable mise en scene, beautiful compositions and lighting, great performances all around and of course catchy tunes. It really turns emotional and involving despite the obvious artificiality. The energy of the musical numbers becomes infectious.

Spielberg stages, shoots and cuts this film as if he's been making musicals for 50 years. You can watch it in mute and have a blast.

Also, there's a scene with Rita Moreno (a new take on an old number apparently) that unexpectedly moved me for real.

This film's been the big surprise of the awards season for me. Totally didn't saw it coming.