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'Matrix 4' Officially a Go With Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss and Lana Wachowski

Get ready to re-enter the Matrix.

Lana Wachowski is set to write and direct a fourth film set in the world of "The Matrix," with Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss reprising their roles as Neo and Trinity, respectively.

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will produce and globally distribute the film. Warner Bros. Picture Group chairman Toby Emmerich made the announcement on Tuesday.

"We could not be more excited to be re-entering 'The Matrix' with Lana," said Emmerich. "Lana is a true visionary — a singular and original creative filmmaker — and we are thrilled that she is writing, directing and producing this new chapter in 'The Matrix' universe."

In addition to Wachowski, the script was also written by Aleksandar Hemon and David Mitchell. Wachowski is also producing with Grant Hill. Sources say the film is eyed to begin production at the top of 2020.

Warner Bros. has been trying for the last of couple years to find a way to get back into "The Matrix" universe, but a hold-up over producing rights slowed the project down. Over the past couple of months, the studio saw an opportunity to ramp up development, with Reeves boasting a strong summer that included box office hits "John Wick 3" and "Toy Story 4" and a script from Wachowski that drummed up excitement.

Plot details are currently unknown, as is how the role of Morpheus will be handled, originally played by Laurence Fishburne. Some sources say the role may be recast for a younger take.

The three previous films —"The Matrix," "The Matrix Reloaded" and "The Matrix Revolutions" — have collectively earned more than $1.6 billion at the global box office. All three were written and directed by Lana and her sister, Lilly, and starred Reeves and Moss.

"Many of the ideas Lilly and I explored 20 years ago about our reality are even more relevant now. I'm very happy to have these characters back in my life and grateful for another chance to work with my brilliant friends," Wachowski said.

The first "Matrix" had its 20th anniversary this year, marked by special screenings at select AMC locations starting on Aug. 30.

Wachowski is represented by WME, Circle of Confusion and attorney Peter Grossman. Reeves is represented by WME and Ziffren Brittenham. Moss is represented by WME, longtime manager Elizabeth Hodgson and attorney Bob Lange.

The other W. is producing a Showtime or FX show about a queer comedian.

Will it work? Don't know. Will it be fun? I'm sure! It will be more Fury Road than Terminator 4.

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And so it begins -- with Teaser Clips rollout via browser.
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Oh shit, why am I so excited for this?

That shot of Neo walking over the street.... yeah, I want this in my life right now.

edit: I just realized it's showing different footage each time you click. Cool, cool

I must admit that I'm a little bit worried of how basic it seems to be as a "The Matrix characters remember the Matrix in another world" narrative: the pills feel like one of the many MCU Easter eggs that I hate. Every symbol of the franchise becoming a symbol in the movie. If you think about it: the pills are seen in one scene of the movie, then are gone, their iconic value is...just for us...and seeing it becoming a part of the movies: it doesn't feel great. Well. I'm mostly worried, I understand why it would "awaken" things for the characters.

But the summary of the trailer has a lot of..."hey...that's The Matrix, remember?" moments.

That said? I love The Matrix. I love Lana Wachowski. Jupiter Ascending made me cry. Let's goooooooo.

EDIT:

And:

https://twitter.com/GemOfAmara/status/1435392913626779652

Having the pills on the front page of the website doesn't have the same effect as the original campaign when we know what it's all about. But still, it's just a marketing campaign, and is just there to build hype.

Let's wait for the actually trailer to drop. I am still weirdly optimistic about this despite the sequels and Wachowski being hit-or-miss (and mostly miss lately)

https://youtu.be/9ix7TUGVYIo

The pills. The rabbit. Blue and red everywhere to signify what's keeping you in the Matrix or what can help you to get out. I'm not a fan of all that. Reloaded avoided that kind of thing, it was all about expanding the world, so I hope this one will achieve something similar despite all these « « reminders ».

I almost screamed at the use of White Rabbit. It's been far too long since I saw the first one (never cared about the 2&3, and never really cared about the cinema of the Wachowskis), time to finally do a retrospective I guess.

I'm pretty excited. They seem to be Eternal Sunshining Neo and and Trinity's love story and bringing some of the even more baroque visuals they've played around with since Revolutions to this, both of which I'm all up for. Simple pleasures! Eternal return of having to "break out" and see things as they are, constant cultural deja vu, the eeire feeling of irreality of our times + good action? Oh definitely.

Looks great. I honestly like the trend of remixing pop songs for trailers.

0:33 was a pretty fun moment, having just rewatched Lost Season 6.

https://youtu.be/SpxRTe3HzLI

Okay admit it this looks amazing.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 09, 2021, 01:35:59 PM
https://youtu.be/SpxRTe3HzLI

That feeling when you see someone you have only heard the voice of..

And yes, this:

Quote from: ©brad on September 09, 2021, 04:10:43 PM
Okay admit it this looks amazing.

The look of this is super off in my opinion.
I guess it just doesn't feel like the matrix unless everything is green?

Pretty meh on the trailer overall. Too many "remember this?!" moments, as people have pointed out. Just feels like fan fiction to me.

I miss when a single movie could exist and there was never a sequel. Like if there was only 1 matrix movie and The Siblings just mic-dropped after that. That would be better than this.

Quote from: HACKANUT on September 16, 2021, 09:07:53 PM
The look of this is super off in my opinion.
I guess it just doesn't feel like the matrix unless everything is green?

The Matrix was green-ified for the 2008 remaster, apparently. The more recent remaster is far less green and more accurate to the original theatrical version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEdgmNZnLs4

It's so ugly. Why.

https://twitter.com/thematrixmovie/status/1461001194000764928?s=21

Looks like a Marvel movie.

Is it really that much worse than the original Matrix's poster?
If it were on a flatter plane would you have dug it more?

Although i dig the Matrix films their posters aren't the best - 1 & 2 have similar posters to this one, and then Revelations is tight but also just a simple character shot.

https://twitter.com/ScottWamplerBMD/status/1461007344347889672

In case you feel like listening to the MATRIX: RESURRECTIONS soundrack before seeing the flick ~ (https://www.wbawards.com/film/?film=thematrixresurrections)

There's  a new teaser trailer too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYs_NDyaLs), that reveals the central conceit of the film. If you don't want to have the surprise revealed, probably best to not watch any of their promo video clips from here on out. And the latest character posters, spoiler tagged cuz tall-images but no actual spoiler:

I dig the new Déjà Vu teaser. Really feels like they're cleverly hiding their game.

New trailer. New worries.  :yabbse-grin:



It will either be the usual callback shit or something more akin to the twisted meta commentary of The Return. Or maybe something else?

Coming soon.

And for the "gamers" out there: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/wakeup

I'm definitely hoping for the latter. Especially if it allows Lana to warp how we talk about "red-pilled." or even simulation theory in regards to the Matrix.

Interesting.

This is a clip from the movie.

Seen. Big screen, first screening of the day. The best theater I know.

My immediate gut feeling is quite strange: there's definitely a thirty minutes chunk of the movie that I find extremely laborious, but I loved most of it, and I was sometimes struggling with tears. As cynical as it is romantic.

The end credits song sez it all. This movie is both cringe and sincere.

I appreciate how it expands the lore of Zion into I/O and that there are
because that's a dope, hopeful way to reframe our relationship to tech. But idk that I liked its self-referential pats on the back. I knew to expect some of that from the marketing materials but it didn't play psychological or related to "Thomas Anderson" to me so much as Lana venting. 

Which is interesting itself considering how much is sprinkled throughout. Feels like a missed opportunity for "Thomas Anderson" to feel like a toxic chain for Neo.

Never thought I would end up vibing with The French Dispatch more than M4trix but, here we are. I did however enjoy all the 8s in the production design and seeing the Sense8 cast in cyberpunk fits.

Cringe and sincere has been the Wachowskis for last decade or so. I think the film is very interesting in dealing with the appropriation of the matrix and how identity and authorship will continue to be oppressed. The White Rabbit montage is a rush. She didn't seem as inspired with the action however, but the shutter stock bullet time was kinda cool.

Sense8 and Jupiter Ascending are super fun. Cloud Atlas I haven't attempted to rewatch since that first watch in the theater.

When I saw Cloud Atlas in theaters, as end credits rolled the woman next to me said "It was just starting to get good"

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I'm not finished, but I had to coalesce some of my thoughts from the shoutbox. The central 4 performances are impressive. Jessica Henwick effortlessly sells every line. But this movie also has one of the worst performances I've ever seen in any medium: Niobe, played by Jada Pinkett Smith and seven layers of old age makeup. I did not expect a double down of Cloud Atlas. This character is a Fallout NPC. The quivering wise old lady voice, the rickety old person movements... it's unbearable. Excruciating. I physically can't make it through her scenes.

The Matrix: Resurrections.

:lol: Hah! Basically.

I enjoyed it a lot! I hope a fifth and six one is happening, and they go wild with it, turning everything on its head. Because it was kind of perfect as a set up for a new trilogy.

Won't happen for economic reasons, but it pretty much felt like a coda to me. I still need to write about it in details, I feel like this is a flawed movie that I, nonetheless, connect to very much. It made me very sad!  :)

I mean, it has already flopped, right? Just throw everything out the window and make a small budget version of it... The none action Matrix lol

That exists! That's called The Sims.

Drenk was right. The third act is pretty strong. But in the end I feel indifferent about the movie; it was a wash.

I can't really say I've seen the entire movie, since I skipped all the remaining Niobe scenes. I did linger on one out of morbid curiosity though. The wavering creaky voice is bad, but the worst part is definitely the old lady waddle that JPS is doing. And the makeup, though perhaps well-sculpted, is not helping. Niobe's entire face is essentially immobile—it's just a static clay mask. Her eyes really stick out, because they're the only sign of life.

Can a Matrix nerd indulge my dumb question and explain this very basic thing to me? Why do humans have any leverage over their robot overlords? I don't understand why they get away with half of what they're doing in this movie.

I kinda wish Gaming played into it more, but also I wish the film had just decided on one metaphor and ran with it; as iz, the film toys with at least three possible plots and only decides to be about romance-as-truth instead of a plot.

This short film that opens The Animatrix may be my favorite piece of Matrix lore, heavily Asimov; directed by Mahiro Maeda whose work you'll recognize from Production IG's portion of Kill Bill, and as key animator for Shin Godzilla, Evangelion Thrice Upon a Time, Porco Rosso, Mad Max Fury Road:
rated R short film with some gore --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU8RunvBRZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00TD4bXMoYw

The cutaways to the first Matrix made me just want to watch the first Matrix. I found the first half interesting and the performances fine. Agree with JB, the plot gets so convoluted and not in a fun way. More crucially though it lacks an iconic set-piece or memorable fight sequence. All the action was pretty uninspired.

That zombie set piece was amazing, though. I really admire it for doing something some people would hate instead of going the easy, obvious route. It was a choice not to put a green tint on everything and make the action stylized and cool.

I just wish they took it even further tho, which is why I want a fourth and fifth film. How much of the first trilogy is just a memory/a video game and what actually happened? I feel like there's a lot of cool stuff to explore with that for example. Something completely different in tone, etc.

Quick plot question...

From how i understand it No, with the caveat;

That's a complaint people have also lodged at Morpheus' philosophy in the first film. IE

Quote from: Drenk on December 29, 2021, 03:09:45 PM

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I think you're misunderstanding this aspect of the movie: the events in the Matrix happened the way they are shown in the game/movie clips. They're simply using the narrative of the game as text in the Matrix to neutralize its emancipating powers and torture Neo with new layers of dissociation. "The One" as a myth is the story of Reloaded/Revolutions.

The message of the romance here is: "THEY're the One."

https://twitter.com/filmdaze/status/1476425721425936385

Good lord...