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Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 13, 2003, 03:24:36 PM
Please... I want to know the strangest movies you have ever seen.. I seek weirdness.. the more obscure the better..

some obvious stuff to just get out of the way:

8 1/2, Brazil, Lost Highway (or anything Lynch), I Am Cuba, The Sea That Thinks, etc etc.
Title: Re: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on January 13, 2003, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanLost Highway (or anything Lynch).

"Eraserhead" tops all of his.

Try "Ravenous" (based in part on The Donner Party).
"Suture"
"Naked Lunch"
"Seconds"
"Orlando"
Derek Jarman's "Edward II"
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Cecil on January 13, 2003, 04:52:46 PM
are you familiar with gregg araki? ive just seen "nowhere" and its great
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on January 13, 2003, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedare you familiar with gregg araki? ive just seen "nowhere" and its great

Thanks for the reminder, cecil. You want strange Jeremy - "The Doom Generation."
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: RegularKarate on January 13, 2003, 05:35:19 PM
Gregg Araki is pure garbage... does he still make films?

it's the worst of the Tarintino wanna-be genre.  So disgusting.

(though it does feature Rose McGowan in the tub)
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Cecil on January 13, 2003, 05:48:01 PM
Quote from: RegularKarateGregg Araki is pure garbage... does he still make films?

it's the worst of the Tarintino wanna-be genre.  So disgusting.

(though it does feature Rose McGowan in the tub)

have you only seen doom generation? you should give another one of his films a try. i felt the same way after i saw doom generation. it eventually grew on me. then i saw splendor and nowhere. like i said, nowhere is great.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Travis Bickle on January 13, 2003, 08:54:26 PM
now i gotta check out this guy's stuff.
Title: Re: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 14, 2003, 11:10:10 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin"Eraserhead" tops all of his.

Never seen that, but I really really want to. Kind of waiting for a DVD. Is it hopeless?
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: sphinx on January 14, 2003, 08:52:14 PM
the last i heard, lynch was moving the production to another company because the dvd was no good...we still will get one, though
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 14, 2003, 09:21:48 PM
The work by this man has been obviously outside of all mainstream and is said to be very different and obscure, so much to the point I don't think he really is represented on vhs at all and this release will be his first and likely only dvd release ever. I am curious though to check it out:
http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=184

~rougerum
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Cecil on January 14, 2003, 10:20:21 PM
cool
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: RegularKarate on January 14, 2003, 11:06:44 PM
Yeah, that does look interesting.  Thanks for the link GT
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on January 15, 2003, 01:22:30 AM
Quote from: sphinxthe last i heard, lynch was moving the production to another company because the dvd was no good...we still will get one, though

From the man himself off his website:

"DAVIDLYNCH [7:18 PM PST]: I HAVE VERY BAD NEWS ABOUT ERASERHEAD -- WE HAVE HAD NO LUCK GETTING A GOOD CHECK DISC AND ARE NOW MOVING TO A NEW COMPANY -- ERASERHEAD WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE (?) FOR CHRISTMAS [2002] .... THIS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND I AM PRETTY SICK ABOUT IT."

No word yet on a new timeframe, but if they are starting over with a brand new authoring company, I wouldn't expect to see anything till second quarter of 2003 at the earliest.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: budgie on January 15, 2003, 06:48:48 AM
Is it going to have juicy extras? My Region 2 has nothing cept a trailer. But then, at least I have the movie. JB, I'm aching for a discussion with you, 'cause if Eraserhead ain't Freudian, nothing is.

Guffy, what's so weird about Edward II? If anything I think it's his most accessible (with Caravaggio). If you want Jarman unorthodox, The Garden, Last of England, Jubilee and Blue are much less conventional. And War Requiem is well worth seeing. If you haven't seen it, you might hate his version of The Tempest with a passion, Jeremy... but anyhow maybe Jarman doesn't really fit into your idea of weird, which seems to be more 'surreal'?

Jan Svankmajer? His Alice is creepy. Little Otik is the only other one I've seen (I think), and that might get you, although personally I didn't think it was half weird enough, but then my strangeness palate is a little jaded.

Peter Greenaway?

I suppose you've seen La Belle et la Bete and Orphee?
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 15, 2003, 08:21:13 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThe work by this man has been obviously outside of all mainstream and is said to be very different and obscure, so much to the point I don't think he really is represented on vhs at all and this release will be his first and likely only dvd release ever. I am curious though to check it out:
http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=184

~rougerum

Great pick, GT.  There is a funny story I read about Brakhage and the creators of South Park a while back.  In actuality, Brakhage taught at Colorado when Matt Stone and Trey Parker were taking film classes.  They mention that Brakhage is briefly in their "Cannibal: The Musical," which I've never seen.  

Here's a link from a website I visit often that has a little bit of info on him: http://www.subcin.com/brakhage.htm
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on January 15, 2003, 08:35:03 AM
Quote from: budgieIs it going to have juicy extras? My Region 2 has nothing cept a trailer.

I put in my order a loooooooong time ago. The thing I remember about it was that it came in a square box with a booklet. But extras on the DVD, have no idea.

QuoteGuffy, what's so weird about Edward II? If anything I think it's his most accessible (with Caravaggio). If you want Jarman unorthodox, The Garden, Last of England, Jubilee and Blue are much less conventional. And War Requiem is well worth seeing. If you haven't seen it, you might hate his version of The Tempest with a passion, Jeremy... but anyhow maybe Jarman doesn't really fit into your idea of weird, which seems to be more 'surreal'?

I wouldn't say weird, more strange. Obviously it was low budget, but the way they used that to their advantage to set a tone that was very 'different'. I haven't seen those other titles, thanks for the tips.

QuotePeter Greenaway?

Yes, "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" comes to mind.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: RegularKarate on January 15, 2003, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: budgie

Jan Svankmajer? His Alice is creepy. Little Otik is the only other one I've seen (I think), and that might get you, although personally I didn't think it was half weird enough, but then my strangeness palate is a little jaded.



I suppose you've seen La Belle et la Bete and Orphee?

SVANKMAJER!  Of course... Faust is also good, but I'd say Alice is my favorite of his that I've seen.

Anything by the brothers Quay is good too, lots of short films you can rent.

If you've never seen anything by them, the Tool videos are basically a rip off of thier style.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: budgie on January 18, 2003, 08:22:33 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinFrom the man himself off his website:

"DAVIDLYNCH [7:18 PM PST]: I HAVE VERY BAD NEWS ABOUT ERASERHEAD -- WE HAVE HAD NO LUCK GETTING A GOOD CHECK DISC AND ARE NOW MOVING TO A NEW COMPANY -- ERASERHEAD WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE (?) FOR CHRISTMAS [2002] .... THIS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND I AM PRETTY SICK ABOUT IT."


Wait a minute... MacGuffin, are you telling me that you are a member?
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on January 18, 2003, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: budgieWait a minute... MacGuffin, are you telling me that you are a member?

No. Another site. (http://lynchnet.com/bv/sound/freshairbv3.ram)
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: BonBon85 on January 23, 2003, 09:57:30 PM
Decasia - One long hour of decaying film stock
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: polkablues on January 24, 2003, 02:29:16 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinYes, "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" comes to mind.

And that's probably Greenaway's most straight-forward (except maybe "The Draughtman's Contract").  

"Drowing by Numbers", "A Zed and Two Noughts", "Belly of an Architect", are all very uniquely bizzare films.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: SubstanceD on February 20, 2003, 12:56:28 AM
Tales From Gimili Hospital
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Ghostboy on February 20, 2003, 01:37:02 AM
Or anything else by Guy Maddin, for that matter.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MunchyMcGee on February 20, 2003, 03:40:56 AM
The first time I saw "Gummo," I thought it was bizarre and disturbing.   But lo and behold, Korine came out with "Julien Donkey-Boy" which is an extremely weird film.  Wrestlers wearing dresses, overbearing fathers, and a young Jewish boy telling Julien to "go in the toilet find a piece of shit and eat it" are all classic moments in this film.  As for other weirdo cinematic masterpieces, I'd have to go with Eraserhead, 8 1/2, Wave Twisters (like Fantasia on acid), and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: BonBon85 on February 20, 2003, 10:26:24 AM
I saw part of Wave Twisters, but I had to stop because the repetitive beats were giving me a headache.

Or I'm exaggerating and just thought the movie was dumb.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Xixax on February 20, 2003, 12:22:32 PM
Harmony Korine is a real inspiration to me.

When I see his work, I tell myself, "Man, if this guy can make a movie, God knows I can."
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: polkablues on February 20, 2003, 03:25:40 PM
Quote from: polkablues
Quote from: MacGuffinYes, "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" comes to mind.

And that's probably Greenaway's most straight-forward (except maybe "The Draughtman's Contract").  

"Drowing by Numbers", "A Zed and Two Noughts", "Belly of an Architect", are all very uniquely bizzare films.

And then let's not forget "The Falls", "The Pillow Book", "8 1/2 Women", and "Prospero's Books".
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Pedro on February 20, 2003, 03:43:33 PM
I stand alone
Title: Re: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Rudie Obias on February 20, 2003, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin

"Ravenous" (based in part on The Donner Party).

dude, this is such a good movie!  i totally forgot about it until you mentioned it.  i'm gonna go out and try to find it so i can watch it tonight.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: phil marlowe on February 20, 2003, 03:58:01 PM
Lars Von Triers Epidemic is the weirdest.
Ever.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 20, 2003, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Phil MarloweLars Von Triers Epidemic is the weirdest.
Ever.

Lars Von Triers movies scare me. In a good way.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Sigur Rós on February 23, 2003, 11:52:33 AM
I've been trying to figure out a "weird-list"

1.Baron Von Münchenhauser
2.The Labyrinth
3.Dreamchild
4.Dr. Strangelove
5.Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (ups almost forgot that one!)
6. Lost Highway (i guess it's weird...)
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Cecil on February 23, 2003, 01:07:00 PM
dr. strangelove?
Title: Re: weirdest movies ever
Post by: snaporaz on March 03, 2003, 04:44:40 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI Am Cuba

how was i am cuba strange? that's one of the most beautiful movies i've ever seen, and the story wasn't really complex at all.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Sigur Rós on March 03, 2003, 05:48:03 AM
Quote from: cecil b. dementeddr. strangelove?

It's kind of weird..isn't it...Riding tha' bomb that's weird! Weird Weird Weird!

Btw has anyone seen Baron Von Münchenhausen by Terry Gillem.....that's weird but that shouldn't surprise anyone :)
Title: Re: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 03, 2003, 10:06:02 AM
Quote from: mike
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI Am Cuba

how was i am cuba strange? that's one of the most beautiful movies i've ever seen, and the story wasn't really complex at all.

I think it visually is the most beautiful movie I have ever seen. Best cinematography Ive ever seen.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: cowboykurtis on March 10, 2003, 08:21:18 PM
have any of you seen sante sangre by jodorowsky. its a woman who belongs to a cult that cut there arems off for sacrifice. her little son and her are circus performers -- he goes behind her and uses his arms for hers -- its pretty odd film. el topp is another of his -- they are fairly hard to get a hold of. have any of you seen funny games, salo, or I stand alone. i saw irreversible at sunance a few weeks ago, i believe it is fromt eh same director that did i stand alone.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Cecil on March 10, 2003, 08:28:32 PM
i saw salo. its funny as hell: "here, a spoon. now eat it!"
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Pedro on March 10, 2003, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi saw salo. its funny as hell: "here, a spoon. now eat it!"

Shit I've been trying to see that for a while...And Cecil, I mean this in a good way, you are one sick fuck :-D
Title: Weird Cinema
Post by: Dekadetia on March 19, 2003, 01:06:36 AM
For some classic weirdness, I would suggest Fellini Satyricon ("Rome. Before Christ. After Fellini.") and Cocteau's Blood of a Poet.

Also wanted to mention The Shining as perhaps the most popular really fucking weird film of all time. I think one of the reasons people liked The Ring is the same reason that people like The Shining; things happen that are not explained and do not compute psychologically. Its a wonder that horror movies are driven by a need to demystify so much at the end. A bit more abstraction could be just what the genre needs.
Title: Re: Weird Cinema
Post by: budgie on March 19, 2003, 07:29:52 AM
Quote from: DekadetiaThe Shining; things happen that are not explained and do not compute psychologically.

Maybe they compute in other ways, though. Such a claim makes me drool: gimme, gimme.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Dekadetia on March 19, 2003, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: budgieMaybe they compute in other ways, though. Such a claim makes me drool: gimme, gimme.

I'm thinking in particular of a couple examples; the elevator full of blood, for one. Another good example is when Wendy (Shelley Duvall) is walking around the house with the knife and that soundtrack that sounds like hundreds of people playing wooden spoons is on and she looks into a doorway to see an older man on a bed with a man in a bear (dog?) suit kneeling in front of him. Now, anyone who has read The Shining or seen the miniseries knows that these two are characters who are explained by Stephen King; Kubrick chooses not to explain them, and the abstraction of it, not knowing who they are or what is going on, is much more psychologically affecting. Also, I was reading Lynch on Lynch recently, and Lynch noted his appreciation of the twin girls scene for similar reasons: "...in the daytime you figure...they're not going to appear...he rolls around the corner and there they are! You know it's not right for them to be there at that time" (Rodley 179).
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: budgie on March 19, 2003, 11:41:24 AM
I see what you're saying, and I think you've identified the essence of weirdness. I'm not convinced about the twins, though, I think it's exactly right that they're there. In fact, given the whole aura of the movie you can psychologically compute the unexplained by sort of expecting it/accepting it, I suppose - ie it makes sense in that world, like seeing a naked man in the street might. But in terms of the rational/everyday and in the eye of the beholder I guess it's potentially weird.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on March 24, 2003, 01:45:07 PM
If you're looking for weird, try and see The tenant ( I think it's the english title, since I'm french I only know it by it's original title which is Le Locataire).

The only movie that scared the shit out fo me (it's disturbing in a very Shining-kind of a way...). Maybe because I saw it a at a festival where I was almost alone in the screening room.

It was due to be released last year but got cancelled. If anybody knows of something about the DVD please let me know since I love to be disturbed.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: MacGuffin on March 24, 2003, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: Vivian DarkbloomIt was due to be released last year but got cancelled. If anybody knows of something about the DVD please let me know since I love to be disturbed.

As of now, there is still no set release date:

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Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: dufresne on March 25, 2003, 12:29:26 PM
Irreversible
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: budgie on April 03, 2003, 10:36:27 AM
Having seen The Seventh Seal again I think it could be counted 'weird', as in it has an aura.

I've seen a couple of other Bergmans but are any others as atmospheric (and funny) as this? There's a season on but I don't know whether to catch any more.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: cine on April 03, 2003, 03:42:06 PM
I love Bergman films. Personally I wouldn't count his films as weird.. they always seem to relate to religious themes. Sure, its strange to see Death play chess with Antonius Block, but since its such a beautiful metaphor in the film, its hard for me to want to label it as being a 'weird' movie. When I think 'weird' in recent movies.. I think of "The Cell" and "Being John Malkovich"..
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Ravi on April 03, 2003, 08:44:21 PM
Juliet of the Spirits is pretty weird.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 10, 2004, 12:50:46 PM
i saw this and thought it was wierd.

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good choices btw....
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Pedro on August 10, 2004, 12:57:55 PM
I love that movie.  Neon, did you happen to see that on Trio?
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: NEON MERCURY on August 10, 2004, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: Pedro the AlpacaI love that movie.  Neon, did you happen to see that on Trio?

nah....my brother showed it to me a while back.....
and it definately left its mark on me.. :shock:
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Bruce Lee on August 11, 2004, 10:21:15 AM
There can ONLY be ONE......a film so weird and unexplained that its almost not a film...blah blah
Got mine though the post today on DVD, yippie! only £6 and no problems in getting it over here.
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Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 11, 2004, 11:41:25 AM
Naked Lunch, definitely.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 11, 2004, 12:36:06 PM
Cyclo. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112767/)

Not the weirdest movie I've ever seen but pretty weird.  Great cinematography.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: diggler on September 03, 2004, 09:50:13 PM
Gummo. such a bizarre and beautiful statement on small town america
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Alethia on September 03, 2004, 10:56:30 PM
count julien donkey boy with that one too
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: bonanzataz on September 04, 2004, 12:59:40 PM
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i never saw it, but it was described to me by a friend and it sounded pretty bizarre. i'd like to see it just to see what kind of fucked up it really is. but maybe it will spark some discussion between people who have seen it.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: modage on September 06, 2004, 12:15:18 AM
yeah i just saw Naked Lunch and its up there for sure.  it was a movie about drugs and writing so bizarre that it made Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas look like Wonderboys.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Lance on September 06, 2004, 08:20:20 PM
Weirdest movies ever:

Teen-wolf
Purple Rain
Moonwalker
about a boy
baby genuises
Dr. Giggles
Wax Museum
the 13th warrior
Dumbo
Breasts are among us
and last but certainly mothafuckin not least,
My balls stapled to your head part two.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: pete on September 06, 2004, 08:25:07 PM
Pooty Tang
Drunken WuTang
and the Gods Must Be Crazy 3, 4, 5 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0101864/).

but in regards to "Dumbo", I think that movie had soooo much potential and Disney had to fuck it up--An elephant that could fly through flapping its ears?  Why didn't its trunk do something?  Why does it have to be a tiny elephant?  Why did the crows have to sing (though Bring in Da Noise Bring in Da Funk had an incredible parody of those crows)?  And why did it have to spend so much of the movie learning how to fly?
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: Just Withnail on September 07, 2004, 09:23:20 AM
Yeah, but the mother scenes are good for a cry, and the drunk-Dumbo sequence is as trippy as anything I've ever seen so randomly put in the middle of a film like that.

In regards to the topic: I have not seen any weird movies that haven't already been mentioned. Or: Some of the films posted are just about as weird as a lot of stuff I've seen, that is, not weird at all.
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: diggler on September 09, 2004, 07:42:46 PM
tron.

"Has anyone seen the movie tron?"

no
Title: weirdest movies ever
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 09, 2004, 08:14:33 PM
I've seen Tron...