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Film Discussion => News and Theory => Topic started by: Banky on April 28, 2003, 09:44:26 PM

Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Banky on April 28, 2003, 09:44:26 PM
Which Kevin Smith film could you have done without?

Or if you are a die hard, if you had to scrap one, which one would it be?

I could definatly leave behind J&SBSB.  Not a terrible movie by any means.  Had some good laughs but it is by far the worst of all Smith's work.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 28, 2003, 09:50:43 PM
all of them -- chasing amy is the only one worth a damn
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Cecil on April 28, 2003, 09:57:34 PM
all of them, except for clerks which i like
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Banky on April 28, 2003, 10:00:25 PM
Any Smith Fans want to post an entertaining response.  And how can somone say that Dogma is not worth a Damn?
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 28, 2003, 10:01:40 PM
Quote from: BankyEdwardsAny Smith Fans want to post an entertaining response.  And how can somone say that Dogma is not worth a Damn?

i said it -- thats how
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Raikus on April 28, 2003, 10:18:09 PM
This can only end badly. Donnie Darko thread, prepare to be usurped!
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on April 28, 2003, 10:18:47 PM
I've seen all of his films and never laughed out loud once. I was still entertained though. :(
They're all pretty good.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Kev Hoffman on April 28, 2003, 10:44:52 PM
I'd scrap Mallrats without a thought.

The others can stay...though I wasn't a big fan of JASBSB, I still laughed a few times.  Clerks, Chasing Amy, and Dogma A-ok in my book.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Ravi on April 28, 2003, 11:07:37 PM
I hate Mallrats.  JSBSB has its moments, but I don't want to sit through it again.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Alethia on April 28, 2003, 11:13:32 PM
CLERKS, CHASING AMY, AND DOGMA ARE WONDERFUL

Jay and silent bob strike back had some laughs, but it was way too fucking long and very flat at many points

mallrats is just depressing --  :cry:
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: SHAFTR on April 29, 2003, 02:38:33 AM
Clerks is timeless.
Chasing Amy is one of my favs.
Mallrats gets better with every viewing.
Dogma has a great idea behind it and some funny/serious scenes.

J&SB Strike Back was just a love song to his fans...I am one of his fans but I still could do without.  It has the least replay value.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: EL__SCORCHO on April 29, 2003, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtisall of them -- chasing amy is the only one worth a damn

Agreed.

I liked the "An evening with Kevin Smith" dvd. Much better than most of his movies.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: snaporaz on April 29, 2003, 09:22:30 PM
i always thought of smith's films as a progressively bad downhill snowball.

clerks - just fucking great. awesome, awesome movie. creative and original all the way.
mallrats - kind of like a not-so-great zuckers bros. film, but i still laughed. it's good.
chasing amy - a decent film, as far as respectability goes, but it really wasn't my cup of tea.
dogma - horrible dialouge for subject matter that should have been dealt with in a more tasteful manner, yet should still retain the humour [which it lacked]. and having people like chris rock and selma heyak [sp?] in it for their "acting abilities" was just fucking retarded. and cameos such as george carlin and alanis fucking morrisette as god [for fuck sake] was, simpy put, hollywood bullshit. not to mention having to deal with the usual ben assfuck and matt gayman. the horrible actors and shitty "smart" dialouge and the entire goof-off-who-gives-a-shit-how-this-movie-is-made atmosphere of it just really turned me off.

in one word: stupid.

jay and silent bob strike back - absolutely horrible. again with the fucking cameos. i can't believe smith actually got the energy and foresight to write this script. did anyone else cringe when those two guys [i forget who and ben assfuck] turn to the camera, like, as if looking to the audience? FUCK.

maybe if smith actually made a movie based on some previous work instead of his own useless, sold-out, hollywood brown-nosing efforts, it might actually be good. until then, i am boycotting his "films". unless i actually hear some reliable word-of-mouth.

unfortunately, my friends' word of mouth isn't too reliable.  :(
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Ernie on April 29, 2003, 09:54:49 PM
clerks is fucking awesome.

mallrats sucks.

chasing amy sucks.

dogma is kinda funny. (shit monster=not funny)

j&sbsb is funnier. (breaking 3rd wall=played out so...not funny)

an evening w/ kevin smith is hilarious!

So, I guess I'd get rid of either chasing amy or mallrats...they're both horrible in really different ways. Mallrats is pretty harmless so I guess that can stay...Chasing Amy is so bad and horribly acted and just plain bad (I'm such a great critic) so I'll have to let that one go I think. Wow, it's just really................bad. Both commentaries are freakin' hilarious though...hence my borrowing of the dvd's from my sister every once in awhile.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on April 30, 2003, 07:35:49 AM
Chasing Amy
Clerks
Dogma
(in that order)
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: penfold0101 on April 30, 2003, 09:06:03 AM
Dogma IMHO is his best film.
Followed by mallrats - its has become a rainy afternoon film. its soo easy to watch.
Then Clerks.
I found J&SB to be a bit hit and miss, some things made me laugh out loud and others made me think why bother?
I couldn't get on with Chasing Amy, i found it hard to connect with.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Pozer on April 30, 2003, 02:15:23 PM
I know it's a bit cliche'd here, but Chasing Amy is the only one I ever liked when I saw it back in the day.

but have you watched this movie recently? horrible (to me anyhoo)
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: Sigur Rós on April 30, 2003, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: poserI know it's a bit cliche'd here, but Chasing Amy is the only one I ever liked when I saw it back in the day.

but have you watched this movie recently? horrible (to me anyhoo)

I watched this movie the 2. time last Friday. I didn't think to much about it the first time I saw it. But this time it was really great! The dialoges are so fun and well writen by Kevin Smith. Ben Afleck and Jason Lee both give great performances. Overall a great movie.
Title: Kevin Smith
Post by: i/o on April 30, 2003, 03:12:42 PM
I wish it would just be easier to just get rid of a lot of the things in the movies.
Such as in Dogma-get rid of Linda Fiorentino.
Or in Chasing Amy-get rid of the overacting.
In Clerks-Get rid of the bad acting and dialogue.

It's that simple folks...