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Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: manvstrees on April 25, 2003, 12:02:46 PM
has this happened yet?  a rant about this i mean.
since when did this gay-ass tag get placed on the movie?  x2 alone was just fine for a title.
quite retarded/
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: xerxes on April 25, 2003, 01:29:05 PM
i agree.

was that supposed to say spiel??? not that i should talk about spelling, i was just confused
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Ghostboy on April 25, 2003, 06:53:28 PM
It's just the studio freaking out, I bet...like, "people aren't going to understand what X2 is!" It's so stupid. Bryan Singer expressed his disdain for it. It's definitely a move from the suits, rather than anyone with any creativity.

Maybe they're trying to make it sound patriotic. Look what 'subtle' pro-America messages did for Anger Management's box office!
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: xerxes on April 25, 2003, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Maybe they're trying to make it sound patriotic. Look what 'subtle' pro-America messages did for Anger Management's box office!

that makes me sick
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Tiff on April 25, 2003, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: GhostboyIt's just the studio freaking out, I bet...like, "people aren't going to understand what X2 is!" It's so stupid. Bryan Singer expressed his disdain for it. It's definitely a move from the suits, rather than anyone with any creativity.

Maybe they're trying to make it sound patriotic. Look what 'subtle' pro-America messages did for Anger Management's box office!

wa? :?:
Title: Re: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: bonanzataz on April 27, 2003, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: manvstreeshas this happened yet?  a rant about this i mean.
since when did this gay-ass tag get placed on the movie?  x2 alone was just fine for a title.
quite retarded/

could this possibly be the next donnie darko thread? find out on the next XIXAX ADVENTURES!
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Duck Sauce on April 28, 2003, 12:51:13 AM
It seems like every movie now a day needs a couple titles, a few abreviations and a half dozen taglines.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Recce on April 28, 2003, 01:23:26 PM
Alls I know, Nightcrawler's teleporting looks amazing.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Ghostboy on May 01, 2003, 12:17:57 AM
I saw it this morning, and while it's pretty awesome, provided you know your X-Men history. If you don't, I think you will still be more than satisfied -- Singer has provided an intelligent, compelling and thrilling narrative that is practically flawless for what it is -- but you'll miss some of the undercurrents that set the film up for the next sequel. Which will be AWESOME, if they follow up on what they promise here.

And Nightcrawler is an amazing character. Better than he ever was in the comics.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 01, 2003, 01:11:40 AM
Quote from: GhostboyI saw it this morning, and while it's pretty awesome, provided you know your X-Men history. If you don't, I think you will still be more than satisfied -- Singer has provided an intelligent, compelling and thrilling narrative that is practically flawless for what it is -- but you'll miss some of the undercurrents that set the film up for the next sequel. Which will be AWESOME, if they follow up on what they promise here.

And Nightcrawler is an amazing character. Better than he ever was in the comics.

Nightcrawler in the trailers looked pretty rad. What other X-Men were omitted from the movies?
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Pedro on May 01, 2003, 07:08:26 AM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
Quote from: GhostboyI saw it this morning, and while it's pretty awesome, provided you know your X-Men history. If you don't, I think you will still be more than satisfied -- Singer has provided an intelligent, compelling and thrilling narrative that is practically flawless for what it is -- but you'll miss some of the undercurrents that set the film up for the next sequel. Which will be AWESOME, if they follow up on what they promise here.

And Nightcrawler is an amazing character. Better than he ever was in the comics.

Nightcrawler in the trailers looked pretty rad. What other X-Men were omitted from the movies?
1000 posts.  YAY.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Pubrick on May 01, 2003, 08:52:39 AM
yes, well done Duck Sauce.

now all can see the hidden secrets that lie at and beyond a thousand posts.

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Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Pwaybloe on May 01, 2003, 09:02:49 AM
Yes.  And to top it off, who could ask for a better title than "Aspiring Actress Jackie Lynn."  It takes eons to attain that status, and you, Duck Sauce, have reached the pinnacle.  Congratulations.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Ghostboy on May 01, 2003, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Duck Sauce

Nightcrawler in the trailers looked pretty rad. What other X-Men were omitted from the movies?

It's not so much who gets left out as who shows up. You may have already heard about the slight 'cameos' from Gambit and Beast, which are cool...I'd love to see them in the next one. Colossus shows up, and he's perfect. Exactly like you'd imagine him looking.

I really am looking forward to seeing this again, and it also makes me want to go back and pick up some of those late 80s early 90s story arcs from the comic...
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Post by: xerxes on May 01, 2003, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: PawbloeYes.  And to top it off, who could ask for a better title than "Aspiring Actress Jackie Lynn."  It takes eons to attain that status, and you, Duck Sauce, have reached the pinnacle.  Congratulations.

inspiring actress
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Pubrick on May 01, 2003, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: xerxesinspiring actress
that's 1001..

and that's the last preview i'm gonna give.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: ©brad on May 01, 2003, 12:44:04 PM
If you could be anyone on the X-men who would it be?

My first inclination is Cyclops. sure he's goofy, but he bangs jean grey, and those cool eye lasers would come in real handy for blasting the shit outta things that piss me off: double-parkers, people with justin timberlake ring tones on their cell phones, GT...

just saw the movie this afternoon, was pretty fun. nightcrawler was excellent, but the most badass award in this one without a doubt goes too...



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she kicks more ass than anyone else in the film.

The movie showing was at 1:30 this afternoon. However, the movie didn't actually start until 2:04 thanks to 20 minutes of shit british advertising. I was really losing my patience until I saw guess what?... the Matrix Trailer![/b] WOOHOO! You know that feeling when you're on a rollercoaster and you are going up the first big hill and you're heart is about to shoot out of your chest? Yeah, well that's what I felt like during the whole 40 sec. trailer. we are in for some crazy cool shit in a few weeks, man.


Quote from: PawbloeYes. And to top it off, who could ask for a better title than "Aspiring Actress Jackie Lynn." It takes eons to attain that status, and you, Duck Sauce, have reached the pinnacle. Congratulations.

hey, can an admin make up a title for me? i've been here for a while and im a lot cooler than duck sauce. be as crude as u want, no worries.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: RegularKarate on May 01, 2003, 01:13:26 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dhey, can an admin make up a title for me? i've been here for a while and im a lot cooler than duck sauce. be as crude as u want, no worries.

That wasn't really especially for Duck Sauce, it's been the title for that post count for some time now, he's just the first to get there (I think).

If you want a special title, you have to just earn it... it's just something that happens... now that I know you want one, though, I'll try to keep my eye out.

GT got one... now he's stuck with it...
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Raikus on May 01, 2003, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dhey, can an admin make up a title for me? be as crude as u want, no worries.

Jesus, you already are titled "Producer," and you want more crude?
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: ©brad on May 01, 2003, 01:19:11 PM
ahh, i did think that one was esp. for duck sauce. its pretty funny, i laughed when i first saw it.  sure its only a matter of time before i get there.
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Post by: Ghostboy on May 01, 2003, 02:31:37 PM
Quote from: cbrad4d

she kicks more ass than anyone else in the film.

Her scene in the tent with Wolverine is great.

My full review is now up on my website: www.road-dog-productions.com/x2.html
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: pumba on May 01, 2003, 05:59:33 PM
X Men United could be the gayest name in all of movie history, well maybe not all... but it looks pretty cool. I hope it'll be better then Spiderman and Daredevil (which was the single worst movie i have ever seen in all my 16 years).
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Post by: Sleuth on May 02, 2003, 10:10:07 PM
I thought this movie was pretty damn cool especially for those of us who know where they are going from this point (plus all the easter eggs, weeee)
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: RegularKarate on May 03, 2003, 12:44:55 AM
Yeah... I just saw it and for what it was, thought it was great....

Personally thought it was ten times better than the first.


Nightcrawler rules.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 03, 2003, 02:04:50 AM
Quote from: cbrad4d
hey, can an admin make up a title for me? i've been here for a while and im a lot cooler than duck sauce. be as crude as u want, no worries.

pathetic....   :wink:

What is the Beast and Gambit cameos like? They are the two coolest characters, why were they not included in the strory?
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: i/o on May 03, 2003, 02:11:39 AM
I thought the movie was okay. It didn't try to be something it wasn't, which is fluff.
Through the film I had a conversation with my friend about how these super hero movies don't have to give any sort of explanation for anything that is going on and we just take it. What was up with that time stopping nonsene? Did I miss something?
It's ridiculous and I guess that's kind of why they are good.

Is it just me or is Ian McKellen one of the greatest actors alive. He gives such a presence in any film he's in. Gods and Monsters  is amazing, and something that you can say was great even though Brendan Fraser was in it.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: ©brad on May 03, 2003, 05:29:11 AM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
What is the Beast and Gambit cameos like? They are the two coolest characters, why were they not included in the strory?

yeah, they were two of my favorites too, especially in the much beloved cartoon that came on saturday mornings when we were kids. they didn't have cameos in the movie.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Ghostboy on May 03, 2003, 10:05:47 AM
Hank McCoy (AKA Beast) is talking on television about the Mutant Registration Act in the bar where Mystique does her thing.

They shot a tiny cameo for Gambit, but discarded it. But when Mystique is hacking Stryker's computer, you very clearly see his human name (Remy LeBeau) show up on the list of known mutants.
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Post by: Pubrick on May 03, 2003, 10:48:17 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dyeah, they were two of my favorites too, especially in the much beloved cartoon that came on saturday mornings when we were kids.
yes! i used to take a deck of cards to school and throw them at ppl all day.. i stopped when i started losing too many cards. :cry:
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: ©brad on May 03, 2003, 11:19:24 AM
I tried to do that too but i cant seem to throw the cards right. they always just fall right to the floor. i cant get any distance. any tips?
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: MacGuffin on May 03, 2003, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: cbrad4di cant get any distance. any tips?

As told by Ricky Jay:
http://www.davidslife.com/funstuff/cards/technique.htm
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: ©brad on May 03, 2003, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: cbrad4di cant get any distance. any tips?

As told by Ricky Jay:
http://www.davidslife.com/funstuff/cards/technique.htm

sweet.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Sleuth on May 03, 2003, 12:02:53 PM
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yeah and how about colossus?  Everyone was cheering as soon as he turned steel
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Post by: Sleuth on May 03, 2003, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: i/oWhat was up with that time stopping nonsene? Did I miss something?
It's ridiculous and I guess that's kind of why they are good.

TIME didn't stop, everyone's mind did because Professor X can do that.  He can control just about anyone however he wants
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Post by: i/o on May 03, 2003, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
TIME didn't stop, everyone's mind did because Professor X can do that.  He can control just about anyone however he wants

Really? I must have missed that.  That just makes the movie seem more ridiculous to me.
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Post by: Sleuth on May 03, 2003, 01:29:28 PM
How so?  You have to suspend your belief that Patrick Stewart does not in fact pilot a ship from the future while meeting hostile aliens, but in this movie he is one of the most powerful minds ever
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: i/o on May 03, 2003, 02:04:41 PM
I don't know. I'm not a follower of the comics or anything, I just think that these super hero movies just invent things just because they can. There's explanation for it for a person that doesn't follow apparently.
For example:
There's the scene in the ship before they go into the dam. They somehow have the blue prints to the buliding. Why? I don't know. It's just because.
And then Brian Cox's character creates some thing to put on the professors head so that he can't use his mind powers, and we're just supposed to say "oh that makes sense".
Okay whatever...my point is that these movies don't find it important to tell people why this is this way. But I suppose most people enjoy them because there's not much to think about.


On a different note, I was quite suprised to see how much killing there was. If I'm not mistaken the first movie didn't have as much killing of minor characters.
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Post by: Bud_Clay on May 04, 2003, 03:39:00 AM
Quote from: GhostboyMaybe they're trying to make it sound patriotic. Look what 'subtle' pro-America messages did for Anger Management's box office!

There was nothing patriotic about this film. In fact I'm a little surprised so many people that go to my theatre enjoyed the film. I guess people suddenly block out any hidden messages they might have otherwise received once they see mutants in the film. Great movie anyway.. very enjoyable
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Post by: Sleuth on May 04, 2003, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: Bill Maplewood
Quote from: GhostboyMaybe they're trying to make it sound patriotic. Look what 'subtle' pro-America messages did for Anger Management's box office!

There was nothing patriotic about this film. In fact I'm a little surprised so many people that go to my theatre enjoyed the film. I guess people suddenly block out any hidden messages they might have otherwise received once they see mutants in the film. Great movie anyway.. very enjoyable

Yes, people definitely blocked out any sort of message at my theater.  I could tell this because everyone was cheering whenever a mutant killed a human.  Also, at the end, when Patrick Stewart says the thing about evolution and whatnot, people were already leaving.   :?
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Post by: Ghostboy on May 04, 2003, 12:33:18 PM
I loved the movie's politics. I don't want to make X2 sound like a serious statement about acceptance...but, well, it kinda is. But it's enough fun that most people won't pay any attention to that, as Bill Maplewood said.
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Post by: Banky on May 04, 2003, 07:41:48 PM
im not trying to give anything away but the "thing" in the water should have burst out right as the credits come up
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Post by: Film Student on May 04, 2003, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: BankyEdwardsim not trying to give anything away but the "thing" in the water should have burst out right as the credits come up

*JUICY SPOILER THAT MADE P SAD*

Naw, its better to let all the uninitiated wonder until the next movie. I hope the Phoenix looks cool (sorry to everyone who hasn't seen the movie, but this IS an X-men thread... just for extra punishment, I'll go ahead and tell you: JEAN GREY DIES.)

:twisted:
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Post by: Ghostboy on May 05, 2003, 12:29:51 AM
Well, now that we're venturing into SPOILER territory...

I'm really glad the ending with Dark Phoenix wasn't more overt. It's just a hint of what's to come. People who aren't familiar with the comics will see it as a sign that she's coming back to life, which of course she is...but they have no idea what she's coming back AS. Of course, if you know the history, you'll have seen it coming from the very beginning, since they drop clues pretty regularly throughout.  I can't wait for the next one! If they manage to work the Sentinels in too, it'll be even more incredible.

Wow, I almost sound like a fanboy!
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Pubrick on May 05, 2003, 03:01:30 AM
Quote from: Film Student
Quote from: BankyEdwardsim not trying to give anything away but the "thing" in the water should have burst out right as the credits come up

Naw, its better to let all the uninitiated wonder until the next movie. I hope the Phoenix looks cool (sorry to everyone who hasn't seen the movie, but this IS an X-men thread... just for extra punishment, I'll go ahead and tell you: JEAN GREY DIES.)

:twisted:
even so, u should put a spoiler thing.

man that's fucked up. was it obvious? she was hot.
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Film Student on May 05, 2003, 03:57:39 AM
I'm sorry.   Yes she is hot.  Until she dies.
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Post by: i/o on May 05, 2003, 04:10:21 AM
You know in the movie Nightcrawler always said that he would have to know where he was going or he could end up in a wall.

I'm curious to know what that would look like...
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Post by: ©brad on May 06, 2003, 01:39:45 PM
Box Office: X2 Excels

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) — Hollywood's lucrative summer box-office season got off to an early start over the weekend as the comic book adventure film X2: X-Men United stormed theaters worldwide in the biggest launch in movie history.

According to studio estimates issued on Sunday, the massively hyped sequel sold $85.9 million worth of tickets in its first three days of release across the United States and Canada. It also earned $69.3 million from 93 countries, taking its total to $155.2 million — more than half of what the first movie, 2000's X-Men, made in its entire run.

X-Men opened with $54.5 million in North America and went on to earn $157.3 million domestically and $294 million worldwide.

The new film, based on the popular Marvel comic books about a pack of ostracized mutant savants, ranks No. 4 on the list of North American openings. Spider-Man, also based on a Marvel comic, holds the record with $115 million, followed by Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone with $90.3 million and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets with $88.4 million.

Fox's three-day estimate was actually lower than that of other studios, some of which placed the opening above $90 million. Final data will be issued later today.

The film, which cost about $110 million to make, features an ensemble cast that includes Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, Halle Berry as Storm, and Ian McKellen as Magneto. Their mutant characters try to defend a human world that rejects them.

Exit polls showed that a surprisingly high 44 percent of the audience for X2 was female, Fox distribution president Bruce Snyder said. Generally glowing reviews also brought in older audiences, with 52 percent aged over 25, he added.

In North America, the film played in a record 3,741 theaters, beating the old mark of 3,682 for last year's Harry Potter sequel.

Summer traditionally begins in Hollywood over the Memorial Day holiday weekend (May 23-26), but in recent years, the studios have started releasing their big guns earlier to maximize returns in a crowded marketplace.

For Marvel, X2 marks the company's sixth consecutive No. 1 release, after X-Men, the two Blade movies, Spider-Man, and the recently released Daredevil. The run is likely to extend to seven with the June 20 release of The Hulk, starring Australian actor Eric Bana as the moody green giant.


- holy smokes, $152 mil. in three days worldwide?!?!?! i had no idea it was going to be that big.
how come this is the first time Hollywood has tried a worldwide release?
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Sleuth on May 06, 2003, 01:58:55 PM
Upon seeing this movie twice, I will say that my favorite part is the attack on the mansion.  Siryn's scream just makes it all the more intense
Title: the whole x-men united shpeel
Post by: Banky on May 06, 2003, 08:30:14 PM
Im not a fanboy but am quite familiar with X MEn but somone said "for those of us who know what this leads to" what specifically were you referring to?

by the way just wanted to say X2 was really fucking sweet.  Fuck people like Roger Ebert who give it crap just because they arent familiar with the X men.  Ebert gave more praise to Dare devil than to X2 and well im not gonna get into that.
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Post by: Sleuth on May 06, 2003, 09:03:07 PM
Quote from: BankyEdwardsIm not a fanboy but am quite familiar with X MEn but somone said "for those of us who know what this leads to" what specifically were you referring to?

by the way just wanted to say X2 was really fucking sweet.  Fuck people like Roger Ebert who give it crap just because they arent familiar with the X men.  Ebert gave more praise to Dare devil than to X2 and well im not gonna get into that.

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Post by: Cecil on May 06, 2003, 09:08:51 PM
spoiler of things to come
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812543254/ref=pd_sim_books_4/102-5387288-7156924?v=glance&s=books
and then
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