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Title: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Reel on November 18, 2013, 06:28:54 PM
I watched 'The Edge' (1997, Anthony Hopkins, Alec Baldwin) the other night after over a decade and I was surprised by how much I still liked it, maybe even more this time as I've grown into my old age. I thought "Man, I love these movies about people who are lost and totally out of their element, but have to do whatever it takes to survive." The structure of it always feels so familiar- You venture out ( usually in a plane ), get stranded, and nature tests you in every way possible until you're finally rescued. There have to be more of these movies, right? Besides Cast Away, I have a lot of trouble thinking of any good ones. Google does what it can, but it's no xixax. I'm not sure if I would include Deliverance in this category, which is an all time fave, because I don't consider them 'lost' as much as facing an outside threat in foreign territory. This is the kind of movie where people are knocked flat on their ass and have to utilize every dormant skill of theirs to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and return to society. You guys know any of 'em? I think I want to watch every one so I can find the best.


(please save me that Life Of Pi BS)
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: jenkins on November 18, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
how we chilling? like robinson crusoe on mars, do we get lost in space after earth? or, war. essential killing. rescue dawn. when is it person vs nature alone? i think that's what you're asking, great q. is that 127 hours?
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Reel on November 18, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on November 18, 2013, 07:04:46 PM
when is it person vs nature alone? i think that's what you're asking, great q. is that 127 hours?

That's what I'm looking for, man vs. nature. it is 127 hours, but I've seen that and he's stuck in one place the whole time so it's boring.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: polkablues on November 18, 2013, 08:05:40 PM
Into the Wild - Obvious choice.
Long Weekend (the original from the '70s) - Not exactly what you're describing, but one of the best man vs. nature movies I've seen. Man pisses off nature and nature gets revenge.
The Grey - Gets a lot of shit, but I flat-out love that movie. The only film on Carnahan's resume that comes close to Narc.
The Way Back - Escaped POWs cross a desert toward freedom. Great sense of desperation and hopelessness.
The Canyon - Decent indie flick with Yvonne Strahovski and Eion Bailey about a couple who get stranded in the Grand Canyon.
Frozen - Kind of. Good movie either way.

Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: BB on November 18, 2013, 11:14:44 PM
I've been on a man vs. nature kick recently, after seeing All is Lost. Along with those already listed, I'd suggest:

Letter Never Sent  (can't recommend it enough; one of my all-time favourites)
Walkabout
Man in the Wilderness
The Ascent
Rabbit-Proof Fence (kinda)
Gerry (kinda)
Jeremiah Johnson (kinda)
Deliverance (kinda)

And a couple of docs:

Stranded: I've Come From a Plane that Crashed on the Mountains
Touching the Void

You might also dig the Coen Brothers screenplay for "To The White Sea (http://www.youknow-forkids.com/tothewhitesea.pdf)" which is really one of the best ever.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Pubrick on November 19, 2013, 01:25:17 AM
gravity.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: MacGuffin on November 19, 2013, 08:30:25 AM
Touching The Void
The Perfect Storm
Alive
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Just Withnail on November 19, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Homeward Bound of course

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Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: BB on November 19, 2013, 09:18:37 AM
Quote from: Just Withnail on November 19, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
Homeward Bound

The very rare nature vs. nature film.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Mel on November 19, 2013, 09:27:44 AM
You mentioned "The Edge" - here is list of films not strictly from category man vs. nature, but more of unlikely pair cooperates in order to survive kind. Some better, some worse:

Wages of Fear (1953)



Sorcerer (1977)



Hell in the Pacific (1968)



Enemy Mine (1985)



Father Goose (1964)



As Far as My Feet Will Carry Me (2001) - here survivor is alone

Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Reel on November 19, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
Whoa! Thanks, guys. I'd never heard of Long Weekend, The Canyon, Letter Never Sent, and The Ascent. I had no intention of watching The Grey until I knew it was this kind of story, I just thought it was about wolves. I really do like Carnahan's Narc, but nothing else he's done. Enemy Mine looks cool! I'm gonna see that ASAP. I watched Gerry recently, probably the most frustrating portrayal of being lost for how it happens so carelessly and they completely fail to find themselves any sustenance. The only sign of them adapting to nature is Matt Damon wrapping a turban around his head. The dirt mattress is the one creative solution they come up with, other than that they just survive. I really found that movie more funny this time around, but grueling as all hell. Definitely puts you in those people's shoes for the time being, not a place that I want to be...

I'm sure that 'Stranded' doc will end up being the best thing I'll ever see on the subject. Just reading the synopsis, it's such an incredible story. Can't believe I hadn't heard of it before. Then 'Alive' is the narrative version of that tale. Really looking forward to those two.

A little piece of Reelist history, here's the first movie I saw with this type of plot. It was in theaters, I must've been about 7. This is the one that got me hooked. I suffered with these two the whole way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1COQlj3IMw4

SPOILER Even back then, I hated when they got rescued. It always seems to happen at the most convenient time, I wish they would just stay out there forever.. ( look at the one comment under the trailer )


This one I've wanted to see ever since I stared at it's cover day after day in class when we were reading it in 6th grade. Just thinking, "WTF is going down on this island??"

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Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: 03 on November 22, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
nice thread.

The Hunter. very very excellent stuff.

also, Jeremiah Johnson

and two kind of group ones, if that counts:
The Donner Party. excellent performances all around but especially crispin glover.


Seven Alone. couldnt find a trailer but this scene is before shit gets real.


Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: pete on November 22, 2013, 04:01:42 PM
The King is Alive - a dogme 95 film shot on video about a group of tourists trapped in a dessert town in the middle of absolute nowhere, trying to survive and going crazy, so one of the tourists, a Shakespearian manager, decides to boost everyone's morale by having everyone put on a play, and that play being King Lear. As their desperation grows and hope wanes, the play comes more alive.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: 03 on November 22, 2013, 09:26:29 PM
cant believe i forgot that one. freaking awesome stuff
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: pete on November 22, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
Little Dieter Needs to Fly
Grave of the Fireflies


and this is a reverse of the wilderness movie, but the pretentious in me has to say it - Nobody Knows by Kore-Eda. It's a very slow-moving, uneasy film about four kids with a mentally unstable mother, who would leave them for weeks at a time. Then one day she never came back, and the four kids have to survive in Tokyo while pretending they're cared for so the child services wouldn't separate them. Pretty heartbreaking stuff.
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Reel on November 23, 2013, 09:35:11 AM
Thanks a lot, you guys! I don't even know where to start with these. 'Hell On The Pacific' was already pretty high on my list and I'm really intrigued by 'Enemy Mine'. Herzog must be the master of this kind of movie. Another type of film that I like a lot is the family who goes out in the wild and creates their own civilization, like 'Swiss Family Robinson' and especially 'The Mosquito Coast'..I love that movie. I expected 'The Kings Of Summer' to be more of a story like that, but I found myself disappointed  :(
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Mel on January 22, 2014, 09:38:55 AM
The Snow Walker (2003) - don't know if it is any good, just seen TV commercial for it, nothing else. Trailer looks kinda 80's.

Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Mel on March 12, 2014, 08:19:36 AM
Tracks (2013) - another that I didn't see, but looks like it fits the description.

Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Mel on June 26, 2014, 04:42:19 AM
The Beast of War (1988) - During the war in Afghanistan a Soviet tank crew commanded by a tyrannical officer find themselves lost and in a struggle against a band of Mujahadeen guerrillas in the mountains. A unique look at the Soviet 'Vietnam' experience sympathetically told for both sides.

Couldn't find a better quality trailer:



It is closer to "Hell in the Pacific" than a traditional war film: tank lost in the middle of desert valley. Anti-war tendencies are there, technically is is great, it shares some of the vibes of "Das Boot" - claustrophobia etc. There is one thing I find ironic. Since actors portraying Soviets are speaking English, it is very easy to re-imagine it in context of recent/current wars in Afghanistan/Iraq. 
Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Mel on July 12, 2014, 12:12:44 PM
Wild (2014) - With the dissolution of her marriage and the death of her mother, Cheryl Strayed has lost all hope. After years of reckless, destructive behavior, she makes a rash decision. With absolutely no experience, driven only by sheer determination, Cheryl hikes more than a thousand miles of the Pacific Crest Trail, alone. WILD powerfully captures the terrors and pleasures of one young woman forging ahead against all odds on a journey that maddens, strengthens, and ultimately heals her.

Title: Re: Lost In The Wilderness
Post by: Reel on August 18, 2014, 06:23:00 PM
I just randomly heard about this on a podcast where they were discussing their favorite Robin Williams movies. Really obscure, seems worth a shot!

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