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I'm not going to flame. I just want a good sizeable defense for this movie.  I myself don't see anything that great, but I just want to know.

Its on my Netflix queue, I dont know what it is about but people either love it or hate it from what I see so I decided to give it a chance.

It's a movie that feels smart on first viewing, well it feels smart in its last 20 or so minutes when the *spoiler* surprise twist comes in the two guys and old guy who are off to fight each other and all seems well with the world when they join sides and do good. That gets old, even for me when I was watching it on first viewing. I honestly believe the love for the movie is that. The rest of the movie moves at sea level, with nothing really that satisfying by way of action film, but nothing completely ridiculous. That's on the mind set of the action movie viewer though. What is left is an action film only for the purpose of its action, while speaking of some old colde of fight that is trickery into thinking there is something dramatic going on. It's just an action film, and nothing memorable even for one. If the twist at the end wasn't there, it would have lasted a weekend only in any sort of popularity.

Dafoe, also, is acting for another movie. I don't know which movie, but not the one he is credited for. Too bad his performance seems to match nothing in the movie, though there is not much coherence by way of feeling in it, because it makes Dafoe's performance seem like just another over the top performance that is a like a cue for people to respect it more. It's too bad that way of thinking goes with acting and most actors, even the bad ones, can easily do this so get away with looking good by doing so.

~rougerum

I KNOW!...when i was first told abou the movie people presented it to me like they discovered the lost ark! I was full of anticipation and when i finally saw it I couldn't believe what I was seeing. That first scene was one of the most ridiculous things i've ever seen.  baffling, simply baffling.

Quote from: Bill MaplewoodI KNOW!...when i was first told abou the movie people presented it to me like they discovered the lost ark! I was full of anticipation and when i finally saw it I couldn't believe what I was seeing. That first scene was one of the most ridiculous things i've ever seen.  baffling, simply baffling.

Beautiful words, man.  Beautiful.

The opinions expressed in this thread make me very happy. I never understood the love for this movie. Its just stupid.

What was the first scene again?  The lesbian in the butcher shop?

i thought it was okay. everyone seems to be rather rough on it. oh well. dafoe, as always, was priceless.

Quote from: IllneroWhat was the first scene again?  The lesbian in the butcher shop?

Yeah & there was this really random intercutting with another shot.. i think it was a shot in a helicopter looking down on the city.

i saw this movie a long time ago and I remember I hated it. it just sucks.

Yeah... same old shit... people are amazed by the bland sometimes... senseless violence in an attempt to be more than what it is... had a couple of decent scenes, but overall: Nuthin'

The only thing noteworthy about it to me was Willem Dafoe's performance.  He and Gary Oldman need to do a movie together where they just trade off being over-the-top.

Quote from: polkabluesThe only thing noteworthy about it to me was Willem Dafoe's performance.  He and Gary Oldman need to do a movie together where they just trade off being over-the-top.

Not a bad idea.

I, also was told that this movie was amazingly inventive and captivating, but was definitely the worst, and least original movie I've seen in the last year.

Did anybody else immediately think of the "I just shot marvin in the face" scene from "Pulp Fiction," when they blew up the cat?

Also, "why don't you make like a tree and get the fuck outta here!"  This made me shudder, becuase the joke was made about 5 different times throughout the "Back to the Future" trilogy.  (oh wait, i guess they did change it from "hell" to "fuck" so i take that back)

I agree that Willem Dafoe was not bad, but he had some really stupid lines in that script.  "that's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deals with abnormally sized men...kind of makes me feel like riverdancin'"  I thought they stopped making fun of riverdance about 5 years ago, not to mention that it's not clever or witty in any way, they just sort of stuck it in there.

Too many matrix-style slow-motion blood splatter shots, and john woo-style gunslinging.  Also, the 2 hitmen reciting a biblical phrase just before killing the enemy, was also very pulp fictiony.

And what was up with saying "fuck" every other fucking word.  I like the word, but it was as if they were using it to be cool, rather than someone cursing a few times because of a fleeting moment of frustration or something.

music was atrocious too.

Quote from: DendyI, also was told that this movie was amazingly inventive and captivating, but was definitely the worst, and least original movie I've seen in the last year.

Did anybody else immediately think of the "I just shot marvin in the face" scene from "Pulp Fiction," when they blew up the cat?

Also, "why don't you make like a tree and get the fuck outta here!"  This made me shudder, becuase the joke was made about 5 different times throughout the "Back to the Future" trilogy.  (oh wait, i guess they did change it from "hell" to "fuck" so i take that back)

I agree that Willem Dafoe was not bad, but he had some really stupid lines in that script.  "that's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deals with abnormally sized men...kind of makes me feel like riverdancin'"  I thought they stopped making fun of riverdance about 5 years ago, not to mention that it's not clever or witty in any way, they just sort of stuck it in there.

Too many matrix-style slow-motion blood splatter shots, and john woo-style gunslinging.  Also, the 2 hitmen reciting a biblical phrase just before killing the enemy, was also very pulp fictiony.

And what was up with saying "fuck" every other fucking word.  I like the word, but it was as if they were using it to be cool, rather than someone cursing a few times because of a fleeting moment of frustration or something.

music was atrocious too.

what he said.

Damn I hate this "film". There isn't really any positive things to say about it!

Good thing they're making a sequel, right?

i dont think i was that bad. it was stupid, yes, but it was also quite entertaining.

Quote from: GhostboyGood thing they're making a sequel, right?

Didn't know that! Was the first one a succés? I thought most people hated it!

It's considered a cult film now.  All I know is that if you talk shit about Boondock Saints on some places on the Internet, you'll be hit with a barrage of insults like "FAGGOT" and "MOVIE SNOB."  

Weird.

Yeah, that is weird! Maybe the word "cultfilmsnob" does exist after all.  :-D

I heard this film mentioned by 3 different people over the past week, so I figured the stars were pointing for me to finally see this after all the hub-bub-- and I must admit, my anticipation for 'Overnight' has been huge.  And now that's it over, I can't wait to see 'Overnight' even more... so I can see that twat Troy Duffy crash and burn before my eyes.  There aren't even words to describe my hatred for this movie, it's so deep and raging.  I hate myself for even wasting 2 hours of my life to actually see this.  You know what?  I knew it was going to be bad.  I expected it.  I figure you have to see some stinkers just for the sake of it (you can learn more from mistakes than from home runs sometimes).  But this... AARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH

If you want a benchmark for post-Tarantino drivel, this is your movie.  From the haggard religious overtones, to the gay-bashing, racial comments... jesus H., the list of offenses is too huge to count.  This movie can't even be enjoyed in a 'violence is cool' aspect because the filmmaking is so fucking weak.  I can accept flaws, I can accept mistakes, but Duffy's attempts at style reek so bad of desperation it just hurts to watch (Willem listening to classical music at a crime scene?).  The whole movie is a desperate wet-dream by somebody that should have stayed a nobody and checking ID's at the bar.

I used to have this theory in college, when i was 18 and cocky (well, moreso than now I suppose), that if you didn't like 'L.A. Confidential,' you were a moron.  Now it seems quite foolish in hindsight.  But that being said... I'm resurrecting that adage.  If you like 'Boondock Saints,' may God have fucking mercy on your soul.  You have no hope.  This is the cinematic equivalent of an abortion.  If someone tells you they actually LIKE this movie, punch them in the face.

Yeah, I have some friends who liked Boondock Saints, and I ached for their souls.  But where do you stand on L.A. Confidential now, W2A?

Man, I can't wait to see 'Overnight' too...I'm going to savor every minute of it. Every now and then, my hatred for Boondock Saints will surface, Incredible Hulk style. Wasn't there something about Duffy in the 'Down And Dirty Pictures' as well? I still need to read that book.

Quote from: OnomatopoeiaBut where do you stand on L.A. Confidential now, W2A?

I still think it's a masterpiece.  But if someone tells me they don't like the flick, it doesn't make my-nerd-Hulk-rage come out like the old days.  Boondock has resurrected it.

Ah, yes, now I know why I love this place!
I had heard about it early last year, by several "trustworthy" people, so I hopped down to the local blockbuster to check it out. I just picked up the box and was bum rushed by 3 employees telling me how fucking amazing the film is. One (an aquaintence of mine) even went so far as to tell me that I would love it so much that I'd want to buy it the next day and that he'd hold a copy just for me.
So I took it home excited, thinking that this would be a great experience. And EVERYTHING negative in this thread I felt. I took it back and didn't speak of it for months. First day of a film class, one of the girls that works at BBV sat next to me and I took this opportunity to ask her why she liked it so much. I compared it to Reservoir Dogs and she was......flabbergasted? She couldn't believe I'd say something like that. One thing leads to another and BAM, we start going out and she makes me feel bad for my disdain whenever the subjects brought up.

Thank you Xixax.com for proving my point! This was an empty film and a bland experience.
And if disliking this movie makes me a snob, then I'm damn proud of it!

i didnt put a response in this thread eariler so i will now.  i had the exact same experience like a year ago.  heard from like 3 or 4 unrelated people that this movie was awesome.  knew it wouldnt be, put it off put it off, finally rented it.  went in without expectations but willing to like it if needed, and it was the worst piece of shit either.  i completely agree about the post-tarantino drivel, and the god help anyone who likes this film.

Hmm... could this be Xixax's most hated movie?

Quote from: PwaibloeHmm... could this be Xixax's most hated movie?

Aside from anything Ratner touches, yes.

I don't understand why they give a parole to the fat old guy when they have to chain him and put him in a bird cage so he doesn't break loose from his ... PAROLE HEARING.

Whoops, just moved this to the top of my netflix queue yesterday, it should be on it's way now. Guess I made the wrong choice.

I finally gave in after like 5 people recommended it to me. I normally don't take recommendations from classmates that seriously but it just seems like my whole school has seen it.

Quote from: ebeamanI normally don't take recommendations from classmates that seriously but it just seems like my whole school has seen it.

I know, a friend of mine said it was "amazing," and I disliked it. A lot.

Hahaha, is this the big movie university/high school kids who think they know about films recommend (as if they found the next hidden Reservoir Dogs)? I too have got a bunch of recs to see this, but all by people with what I consider to be horseshit taste. So I've avoided it.

Really though, I love when some guy who took half a year of film history starts yakking: "oh yeah, I think the Odessa Steps sequence is really great, and so important for editing. And ______ (insert whatever one silent film they saw, either a Chaplin, a Keaton, or Cabinet Of Dr...) was alright. So hey, have you heard of Boondock Saints? Oh, you GOTTA see it".

hehehe

Jb liked it.  :!:  :shock:

Quote from: Weak2ndActI heard this film mentioned by 3 different people over the past week, so I figured the stars were pointing for me to finally see this after all the hub-bub-- and I must admit, my anticipation for 'Overnight' has been huge.  And now that's it over, I can't wait to see 'Overnight' even more... so I can see that twat Troy Duffy crash and burn before my eyes.  There aren't even words to describe my hatred for this movie, it's so deep and raging.  I hate myself for even wasting 2 hours of my life to actually see this.  You know what?  I knew it was going to be bad.  I expected it.  I figure you have to see some stinkers just for the sake of it (you can learn more from mistakes than from home runs sometimes).  But this... AARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH

If you want a benchmark for post-Tarantino drivel, this is your movie.  From the haggard religious overtones, to the gay-bashing, racial comments... jesus H., the list of offenses is too huge to count.  This movie can't even be enjoyed in a 'violence is cool' aspect because the filmmaking is so fucking weak.  I can accept flaws, I can accept mistakes, but Duffy's attempts at style reek so bad of desperation it just hurts to watch (Willem listening to classical music at a crime scene?).  The whole movie is a desperate wet-dream by somebody that should have stayed a nobody and checking ID's at the bar.

I used to have this theory in college, when i was 18 and cocky (well, moreso than now I suppose), that if you didn't like 'L.A. Confidential,' you were a moron.  Now it seems quite foolish in hindsight.  But that being said... I'm resurrecting that adage.  If you like 'Boondock Saints,' may God have fucking mercy on your soul.  You have no hope.  This is the cinematic equivalent of an abortion.  If someone tells you they actually LIKE this movie, punch them in the face.

I love you all! When I happened upon this site, the first thing I did was search for a thread related to 'Boondock Saints.' This film is also my litmus test. If I had seen any sizeable support for this pile of crap, I would never have returned.

I teach a high school film class and I showed this thing sight-unseen (always risky in any event) b/c some of my better students insisted it belonged in our unit on the gangster film. I was horrified. Even more horrifying was when my students failed to see the relationship to Tarantino. "It's totally different!" they protested, "These guys are IRISH!"

May God have fucking mercy on all our souls!

Boondock Saints is terrible.  Give us a few months and you'll agree.

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Quote from: PubrickJb liked it.  :!:  :shock:

I was young and vulnerable.

I shall revisit the movie and recalibrate my opinion. I stand by my defense of Willem Dafoe, though.

i really didn't think this movie was that bad. i did cringe a bit at the endless tarantino worship, but i still found it rather entertaining.    

and besides, how can you hate a movie that casts ron jeremy almost as brilliantly as "killing zoe" did?

You guys HAVE to see "Overnight."  Troy Duffy is one of the most amazing blowhard assholes I've ever seen put to film.  The movie is ridiculously entertaining.

Is it being released? I saw the review on AICN the other day and it only whetted my appetite further. I can't wait.

Quote from: GhostboyIs it being released? I saw the review on AICN the other day and it only whetted my appetite further. I can't wait.

Yeah, I saw a screening at the LA Film Fest and the directors said they were getting distribution in the fall.

For my complete thoughts on the movie, here's a link to my 15 seconds of fame on AICN, posted during the LAFF.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17840

Now I want to see Boondock Saints, and I can't wait to see Overnight.

I saw Overnight tonight and it is unbelievable! You just can't imagine what a truly rotten guy Troy Duffy is. I can't believe this is a documenatry about a real person. I didn't think it was possible, but he made me hate his movie even more. I'm a very generous person, and I always look for the best in people and hate to see someone down on their luck...but watching Duffy fail so miserably made me feel like there's some justice in the world. As far as this doc is concerened, he's utter slime.

And although Boondock Saints 2 is still listed as 'In Production' at IMDB, the movie makes no mention of it.

i finally saw this and, wow, i can't remember the last time i hated a movie as much as this.  it was almost insulting. i looked over the thread and everything i would have said about it has already been said.

i very much want to see overnight now.

If you didn't like Boondock Saints, in a sick way you'll love Overnight.

They ought to put The Boondock Saints on the second disc of the OvernightDVD as a supplemental.

Yeah, and since Troy Duffy makes absolutely no profit on DVD sales, it's an even harsher spit to his face!

The Overnight DVD releases June 28th

Quote from: RaviThe Overnight DVD releases June 28th

Thanks, I was looking for that date.

last friday i posted in the overnight thread that netflix has it listed for May 10th.  though amazon does have the other date.  hmm...  :ponder: http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=6956&start=15

Fox will release The Boondock Saints: Unrated Special Edition on both DVD and UMD formats. On the DVD, the film will be available in both full frame and anamorphic widescreen versions, each with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. Extras will include audio commentary with writer/director Troy Duffy and actor Billy Connolly, deleted scenes, outtakes and trailers.

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Quote from: MacGuffin on February 14, 2006, 11:29:46 AM
Extras will include audio commentary with writer/director Troy Duffy and actor Billy Connolly

On first glance I thought that said Bill Cosby.  "Now, ya see, movie directors today have the brain damage..."

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I've never seen it.  Is it a superhero movie?

Its about a rag-tag group of saints who go around spreading Jesus' love and kicking ass at the same time.

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Even the title is sort of a semantic ripoff of Reservoir Dogs.

This is a pretty bad movie!
Whatever potential it did have, the bad acting and cheesy dialogue couldn't save it for me.

An inspiring film. Lets make a Dekapenticon for worst movies ever!

Duffy's audio commentary on the current Boondocks DVD is as monstrously egotistical as anything he says in Overnight.  Absolutely worth a listen.  It makes for a so-bad-its-good triple feature: a) Boondock Saints b) Boondock Saints with Troy Duffy audio commentary c) Overnight.

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one day the x-men dvd tipped over

haha.  Very Far Side esque.

There certainly is a lot of hate for this movie form Xixax... how did that come up?  Are there really no other worse movies (besides Ratner's catalog)?

I would happily watch Boondock Saints before I sat through another Uwe Boll film, which was only for comedic purposes anyway.

Ratner is amazing compared to Boondock Saints.

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I remember thinking the movie went downhill when they were all reciting the Irish prayer. I actually started laughing.

I was captivated by the movie's absurdity. Had I existed in some comical universe, I would cry throughout the film's runtime.

I hope I never cross path's with the special edition DVD thats coming out...I may have to *dum dum dum* misfile all the copies.

This week's Comedy Goldmine on Something Awful offered this fine gem of comedy:

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The topic was "Truth In Movie Titles."

The rest are pretty funny, too.

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That was probably the best admin edit ever.

Interview: Troy Duffy
The Boondock director discusses his colored history in Hollywood, overcoming Overnight, and creating a Saints sequel six years later.

Since the release of The Boondock Saints in 2000, Troy Duffy has gone from burgeoning talent to Tinseltown black sheep and back again. That film's production, thoroughly chronicled in the 2003 documentary Overnight, showed a young filmmaker at his best and worst - the creative captain of an ambitious, star-laden project, and a vitriol-spewing brawler with a penchant for self-destructive tirades. Most unfortunately, Duffy found himself on the receiving end of a grudge held by one of Hollywood's heavyweight producers: Harvey Weinstein, who has earned a reputation over the past two decades as an (at least) equally fickle filmmaker.
   
Next week, Duffy's film returns to DVD in an all-new Unrated Special Edition set, featuring a pristine transfer, improved sound and expanded extras. Speaking publicly for the first time since the release of Overnight, Duffy recently talked to IGN about the very public history of Boondock Saints, his own successes and shortcomings, and the long road to Hollywood redemption - which he hopes will end with a long and illustrious career (not to mention a Boondock sequel). Alternately conciliatory and combative, Duffy eagerly talked about himself, his films, and his future, and indicated that the past six years were little more than preamble for great things to come.

IGN DVD: Maybe just to start off you can talk about the differences between this 'Unrated' version of the film and the original cut.

Troy Duffy: What it is was my first cut of the film. It got rated NC-17, and there's only a few minutes difference, but it's going to be very noticeable to Boondock fans and it's only differences in scenes where people die. There's a lot more bloodwork, and a lot more sort of slow-motion gun ballet violence in it. I think it's only about two and a half minutes longer than the regular version. But cutting those scenes, when we got the NC-17 I challenged it with the MPAA. You go before this arbitration board called CARA and you plead your case and MPAA sends a representative over to plead their case and you plead your case and they screen the movie beforehand in front of, you know, nine 60-year old housewives that are just going to basically support whatever the MPAA wants to do. Anyway, I had to cut it to an R to get distribution; we had a deal with Blockbuster and they only release R [-rated movies]. So cutting it was like slicing up your baby; all of those shots, especially the slow-motion violence and the blood and all that, those were hard-earned shots - well-orchestrated, everybody on set had to contribute to getting those correct, and it was real hard to cut those out. I'm glad Fox is releasing this version because it's the one I originally intended. So the difference though only minute-wise is slight, it's going to be very impactful for the fans.

IGN: How much participation did you have in putting together this DVD?

Duffy: Well, it's my cut, you know. So I guess they went through the archives and found it and I'm helping them promote it, but this was all the studio's idea. So they decided what they were going to do, called me up and told me about it, and I said great - I'm in.

IGN: Did either of you discuss the possibility of further documenting the very public history of the film for this set?

Duffy: No, that's a little bit of a tricky situation. We're involved in litigation with the company that actually controls the rights, who has a deal with Fox, so I'm basically helping Fox because Fox is a great studio that we're tentatively doing the sequel with. We've sort of negotiated a deal with Fox which can't be signed until this litigation ends, so we're together. It's just that the [production company] that owns the rights that we're suing right now, we don't speak. So yeah, in terms of doing the commentary and stuff like that, I was called about ten months ago and it would muddy the waters of our lawsuit. I had to actually talk to my lawyers and they said I can't participate in anything like that. If I had sort of known at that point that Fox was going to be behind the whole thing, I probably would have participated more in terms of doing a new commentary, but unfortunately it's just a bunch of crappy law stuff.

IGN: How much does the release of the DVD sort of make you reflect on the making of the movie and all of the fallout attention generated by Overnight?

Duffy: (laughs) Well, yeah I guess it makes me reflect a little bit on all of that stuff. But this is six years later; this movie was released in 2000 on video by Blockbuster and it immediately was like starting a fire with the public. Still today, it's Blockbuster's highest-grossing straight-to-video title. It just did really well - as soon as Boondock touches the public, anyway, it does really well. So I've had six years to kind of go over the past and mistakes that I have made, and, you know, you relive them and you think about them and decide you're never going to make those again, which I've done. [But it's] six years later and now we're getting a theatrical release; I've got a bunch of film geeks working for me at the office and they've been scouring the internet to try to find some example of that happening before, and they haven't been able to find one yet, which is really cool for us.

With Boondock, it's like the fans sort of twisted Hollywood's arm behind its back and said "we like this," and the movie was never really given a theatrical release or a chance like that, except by Fox and that was some six years later. They had to figure out what was going on with the fan base and realize how big it was and then they responded, so the whole thing kind of happened ass-backwards as to the way it usually happens in the business. So I'm extremely happy about what they're doing. Six years later we're getting a theatrical release and an unrated version because the first one did so well. The movie is getting sort of the attention that it's deserved, at long last.

IGN: One of the reasons I was excited to talk to you was because this is the first time you've publicly discussed the film since the release of Overnight. Assuming you've seen that documentary, are there things you feel like were particularly inaccurate?

Duffy: Well, I haven't seen it, and I have no intention of seeing it. Here's how I regard that. It is kind of strange, number one, because a little controversy keeps things lively. I'm not upset that much about it in terms of how it was received by the public, but last year we did a college tour, and we spoke at about nine universities. It was just me and a couple of the guys from the film at some very well-attended events. After everyone of them we did about half of an hour of q & a with the students, and these are some big crowds - we had anywhere from 900-1200 kids a pop at these things. It was during the height of the press for that documentary, and I would get to campus sometimes and read it in the campus newspaper - "Duffy Under Fire, a documentary" - and so the kids were aware of it. But at all nine of these places, not a single student asked me a question about it.

I don't know why that is, but they just didn't seem to give a sh*t. Who does ask me about is my close friends who were there during the time and feel just as betrayed as I do. And what they seem to want to know when you boil it all down is how I feel about it. How I feel about it is very simple: if you've ever had a very close friend, somebody you regard as a brother, stab you in the back, then you know exactly how I feel about it.

IGN: What did the experience of making the movie and its' 'ass-backwards' trip to getting into theaters teach you about making movies as you're going forward and working on Boondock Saints 2 or other projects?

Duffy: It taught me - well, I got an Ivy League education in this business, because it happened this way. I've had a lot of time to reflect and look at all of my mistakes, and I made them - I started out when I was 25 years old, and I'm going to be 35 next month. I made a lot of mistakes, I did not always know what the right thing to do was, I misbehaved, sure. But there's a learning curve in this business, and I think most people experience it. I certainly did. So I learned from my mistakes, and I now realize that you've got to kind of build a career brick by brick and not have that romantic notion of throwing it all on black, like 'this one movie is going to define me and that's it'. You have to continue to do stuff. So over the years that we've been kind of staying quiet, I've written four new scripts, we're going out with one of them. It's entitled The Good King, it's a black comedy, and we're going to try with every fiber of our beings to get it made and tap right into the Boondock fan base and move on from there. Also, we're going to unwind the sequel; like I said, it's a matter for the courts to decide, but we're going to get that done.

If anything, I've just learned from all of my stupid, amateur mistakes, and I made a lot of them and I learned from them how better to behave in this business. Spilled milk, you know? I'm not going to cry about it, and I'm not going to apologize to anybody, because somehow, someway we did it. We got a good movie out of this, and the fans have shown me that, so I'm just going to move on and try to do it better.

IGN: Are you having luck getting your new material looked at, or have you found that Overnight and the moviemaking experience on Boondock has soured some folks to your projects?

Duffy: Actually, it's strange. This is going to sound weird, but the wake of Boondock and my particular history in the business seems to have a positive effect on production companies and people in the business wanting to read my work. So we've had no problem getting people to read it and consider it, and we just literally started doing that this week, so we're going to hear some stuff pretty soon. But it's almost like all of that history sort of worked in my favor, like "oh, that guy? He's got a new script? Yeah I want to read it." I don't know exactly why that is, but I think there's a different level of interest than in a normal dude.

IGN: How many of the cast members of the original film plan to return for the sequel when and if it happens?

Duffy: Everybody's back in except Willem Dafoe, [because] sometimes actors have their careers plotted out in different ways and he's sort of doing a different thing now. So he's the only one who won't be back. Billy Connolly, the brothers, Rocco, everybody's in and calling me every two weeks and going "when are we going to do this thing?" So eager is how I would describe the interest of the actors. On top of that, we've got some new roles in it and we're going to be able to do some interesting casting at that point. So I can't wait to see what kind of new faces we can come up with for these roles.

IGN: You already did a commentary on the original DVD that shows up on the Unrated version, but what in particular do you hope this new DVD highlights about the movie that people may still not get about Boondock Saints?
   
Duffy: Well, I don't know, man. Kids that like Boondock watch it over and over and over again, and they seem to pick up new things a lot of the time that they hadn't seen before when they watch it. Now we've got a little bit of extra footage in there, and I think that they're going to pick up on the new stuff and I think in terms of highlighting they're going to feel like it's just a little more 'Boondock', you know? It's just a little bit better, and that's what I think they're going to come away with. It's not like there's a new scene in there or new dialogue or anything like that. It's just - it feels more Boondock. It's a little cherry on top, you know?

Regal Theatres is doing a promotion of this DVD by screening the movie in their theatres sometime this weekend I think.  I saw a commercial for it before MI3 and thought to myself, "I need to remember to post this on xixax." 

And then you did.

I went to a party this weekend and got completely hammered and some meathead who fancied himself an intellectual starting talking about how good Boondock Saints is, and I was like, "That movie is garbage" and he was like, "Whatever man. You just don't know enough about film to get it, okay?" and I was so sloppy drunk and mad that the only comeback I could muster was, ".......fuck you." then went to get another beer.

I really wish some of you had been there with me, sober.

i wish i was with you and you with me.  saturday night i was out with a large group of ppl for a birthday and several ppl were discussing movies and how Boondock Saints was their favorite of all time.  i jumped in with my opinions on why it is so horrible and others stepped over the line to the pro-Boondock side and i was left alone in the minority.  i was disgusted and sloppy drunk as well and my protests got through to not a one.  one of them ended it by shouting, "sorry we didn't all go to film school like you and don't have your artistically intelligent mind!" and everyone started laughing and those who hadn't seen it were all convinced to make it the next movie they see.

if you were with me we would've gone Boondock Saints on their asses. 

those posts made me laugh HARD.

i went to no party last weekend. instead i called up a girl friend and invited her to my place to see boondock saints. when it was over she said: "alex, thanks for showing me this film, it was great", and gave me a blowjob.

Quote from: Alexandro on October 06, 2008, 10:42:08 PM
i went to no party last weekend. instead i called up a girl friend and invited her to my place to see boondock saints. when it was over she said: "alex, thanks for showing me this film, it was great", and gave me a blowjob.

If that's true then it rivals my story of when I dated a hardcore catholic and grudingly agreed to our first date being evening mass at her church. I was raised a catholic, but she knew I was since then the furthest thing from it. While I expected the date to be a hatchet job on her part to "save" me, I took her back to my place afterward and immediately got laid. Religion was never brought up again between us and I always have fond memories of something I dislike working out in my favor.

I rented this last year I think, mainly because I remembered this thread and said to me 'how bad can it really be?', now im convinced gt's "I'll love everything everyone hates" spirit got into me for thinking that because boy is it bad, fortunately I don't remember much about it except it looked poorly filmed, lit, edited, acted and that the green goblin was in it.

It's just another mediocre movie, not even a b-movie, just plain bad, I wish I could have helped pozer or stefen, although if you hear anyone raving about it just turn around and go somehwhere else, unless it's a girl you're interested in, then stay, you might get alexandro lucky.

i was lying. i haven't even seen boondock saints. i thought those stories were fake too. guys why do you do these to yourselves? i don't even argue about bad movies anymore with anyone.

but if someone says something like "sorry we didn't went to film school..." and all that, i would say: "sorry you don't know what the fuck you're talking about"...i do that all the time, really...just the other day, some fat guy i didn't know at a party asked me about Austin city limits, what bands were there and all that. we start mentioning bands and he says he's unimpressed, so i say "cool", and he says "who else was there?" and I'm like "shit, this isn't over yet". he says: "someone famous by any chance?"...and we were mentioning some bands: "gnarls barkley, raconteurs". he says: "i don't like the lineup"...now, i didn't wanted to go there but my girl said: "don't you like beck?", and he says: "what does he have, 2, 3 good songs at the most?"...and that did it. i said: "you know what, just stop it man, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about". he insists: "well, i mean, OK, he's good, but he doesn't fill up a stadium", and that was like firecrackers in my ass..."what the fuck do i care if he fills up a fucking stadium?"...."I'm talking about popular tastes"; he claims...by now i was totally pissed, so i was kind of making a little scene: "popular tastes can lick my balls, man!!!"...so he realized he just fucked it up with a maniac who happens to be a big beck fan and tries to back off like: "i mean these are just opinions"....i said: "just stop, please, i can't take seriously any fucking thing you say, please, this is embarrassing to me, please just stop". he did, and we left to a better party. you see? you can shut this assholes up by making them realize they are idiots and you know your shit, because you do...

fuck the ignorants, they deserve the disappointment that awaits them in life.

It's a shitty movie. Probably the worst I've ever seen.

Quote from: Stefen on October 15, 2008, 09:42:23 PM
Call up the dude that directed Boondock Saints. He's probably looking for some people to do shit with since he hasn't been very busy.

apparently he has..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8EuPMGhys8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8EuPMGhys8&feature=related)

haha, fucking shit, man. I fucking knew it. Ugh. That guy is pure awfulness. I hope hit mother gets kicked in the tits.

So I was browsing an MMA forum and saw they made a thread about the Boondock Saints sequel.

This is what happens when meatheads converse about shitty films they think are good. Hilarity ensues. 

Some choice quotes.

Someone who says it's not a very good movie, and some dickhead says...

QuoteLet me guess - You like foreign french film like the rest of the Film nerds?

Boondock Saints is hilarious. Well directed. A masterpiece.

haha. Check out this jerks reply.

QuoteSaints is one of those movies if you dont have in youre own little collection then you should check you sexuality. Im not talking about the wife and kids stack. I mean the mans own stack. My stack= Warriors,Braveheart,Gladiatior,Vision Quest,Boondock Saints,

He pulled the questioning your sexuality card. A classic meathead tactic.

This piece of shit tries to get all philosophical and basically gives the worst reasons for liking shitty movies.

QuoteFilm people who bash Boondock Saints are missing the point. I'll go toe-to-toe with any of you over good cinema, but this is a POPCORN MOVIE and i loved it. I don't want to be watching a thinking man's movie every single day. I do that a ton, and I enjoy anaylzing good film, but there is a time and a place when I just want to space and watch people get blown the fuck up. Boondock Saints is a fine BTFU movie. I wont see All Saints Day in theater but I'll sure as hell watch it on HBO or cable when it hits.

I wonder what "thinking man's" movies this dolt is watching at least every other day?

Next up we got a meathead who hated the movie, but he's impressionable so he was peer pressured by other meatheads to give it another chance, and gee golly wiz, due to peer pressure, he liked it and is now the shitty directors biggest and shittiest fan.

Quoteyeah. you guys are right. i just rewatched it and it's really, really good. i'm looking forward to the sequel. finally, this duffy kid is back in the mix and i see good things in the future.

Quote from: Stefen on November 10, 2008, 04:16:20 PM
I wonder what "thinking man's" movies this dolt is watching at least every other day?

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The Usual Suspects. Stuff with "twists". Stuff with "inside" gangster jargon.

Quote from: Stefen on November 10, 2008, 04:16:20 PM

He pulled the questioning your sexuality card. A classic meathead tactic.

I should give that a try more often.

"You didn't care for Days of Heaven? What are you, some sort of faggot?"

Quote from: john on November 10, 2008, 05:16:37 PM
"You didn't care for Days of Heaven? What are you, some sort of faggot?"

MARRRQUEE.

There Will Be Blood is the best BTFU movie.

Has anyone been to an open mic when some shaky old fart who's half homeless gets up and does a fifteen minute long, out of key, variable tempo medley of the best parts of what's left of his memory of some of his favorite classic rock songs? 

That's the kind of writing process I imagine Troy Duffy employed while making this ripoff piece of trash. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhMbijdrF1A

Quote from: pete on April 04, 2010, 09:15:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhMbijdrF1A

Haha. How did you even stumble across that?

Quote from: pete on April 04, 2010, 09:15:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhMbijdrF1A

jesus christ, he hasn't changed one bit.

oh well, good for him.

Why are so many people in that video wearing BROWN on ST. PATRICK'S DAY in BOSTON?!

Oh, they're all fucking clueless.

I wore all red on a sunday once and then walked into a giant st. patrick's day parade and was heckled to death for 20 blocks.