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Title: Pain & Gain
Post by: MacGuffin on December 19, 2012, 05:41:26 PM
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Release date: April 26, 2013

Starring: Mark Wahlberg, Dwayne Johnson, Rebel Wilson, Anthony Mackie

Directed by: Michael Bay

Premise: A pair of bodybuilders in Florida get caught up in an extortion ring and a kidnapping scheme that goes terribly wrong.
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Post by: pete on December 19, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
whoa that actually looks really good
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Post by: jenkins on December 19, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
This trailer alone has more personality than the complete Transformers trilogy.
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Post by: Frederico Fellini on December 19, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: trashculturemutantjunkie on December 19, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
This trailer alone has more personality than the complete Transformers trilogy.



That's not really saying much....

It does looks good, but I can't stand Michael Bay. I'll still watch it cuz of THE ROCK and MARKY MARK.
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Post by: ©brad on December 19, 2012, 08:35:07 PM
I feel like this is what Magic Mike should have been.
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Post by: jenkins on December 19, 2012, 09:49:31 PM
It makes me shed a tear to even think about a world in which all those wonderful strip routines don't exist.
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Post by: matt35mm on December 20, 2012, 10:45:08 AM
I believe in this movie 100%.

We will be entertained, goddamnit! We will be entertained!
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Post by: polkablues on December 20, 2012, 11:05:17 AM
It doesn't look THAT good, you guys.
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 20, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: polkablues on December 20, 2012, 11:05:17 AM
It doesn't look THAT good, you guys.

THANK YOU!

Seriously guys, we know what makes Michael Bay laugh.
Just because he's a fan of the Coen brothers doesn't make him a Coen brother.
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Post by: Just Withnail on December 20, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on December 20, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Seriously guys, we know what makes Michael Bay laugh.

This is obviously a full movie of fat-jokes disguised as well-built-jokes.
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Post by: matt35mm on December 20, 2012, 11:55:07 AM
This movie looks like it's going to scratch an itch that hasn't been scratched for a long time. How skillfully does an itch have to be scratched for it to feel great?

That said, for what this movie is, I think it looks really good. I am looking forward to watching it with a giant bowl of popcorn and a pitcher of beer. The Drafthouse should make a protein milkshake special for this movie.
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Post by: jenkins on December 20, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
I don't judge the Coen brothers on their action scenes and I don't judge Michael Bay on his comedy.
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Post by: RegularKarate on December 20, 2012, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: trashculturemutantjunkie on December 20, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
I don't judge the Coen brothers on their action scenes and I don't judge Michael Bay on his comedy.

What if the Coen brothers made an action film??
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Post by: jenkins on December 20, 2012, 02:34:47 PM
lol, didn't that at first say "What if the Coen brothers made a comedy?" At least that's what I thought I read the first time I was here, and I thought that was a funny deflation of this thing, and I planned a response while reading the Terry Zwigoff interview. But now it's a different q.

As to the new q, the Coen bros wouldn't make an action movie. It's not their personality. If they did make an action movie, it'd probably still be funny. I think Bay's stuff is hella outrageous and it's (at its best) fun and the fact that people say things and some of those things are meant to be jokes doesn't make the movie a comedy, to me. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I like Tower Heist. So --
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Post by: pete on December 20, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
I like this.
I don't think Michael Bay's particularly good at making action films - he's good at making an impression of an action film. It's like how Farmville is not a good game but it's widely bought and played.
but this movie doesn't look like it depends on the action set pieces, and that's why I like it. it's got swat team but they don't look like the same old swat shit that Michael Bay's been peddling since The Rock.
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Post by: jenkins on December 20, 2012, 06:59:02 PM
I'm going to use "an impression of an action movie" I like it, I think I like movies like that.
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Post by: MacGuffin on March 26, 2013, 06:28:27 PM
Red Band Trailer


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Post by: RegularKarate on March 27, 2013, 10:43:52 AM
And it's finally revealed what I suspected the whole time, this is going to be as funny as the "comic relief" in Transformers. You can't just put funny people into a movie and have them curse a lot and all of a sudden, it's funny.

This is the kind of movie that I would have liked to have seen played a little more straight. It would probably actually be funny then.
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Post by: ©brad on March 27, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
Has Michael Bay ever locked off a shot?
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Post by: samsong on April 27, 2013, 05:21:30 PM
basically perfect.
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Post by: modage on April 27, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: ©brad on March 27, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
Has Michael Bay ever locked off a shot?
Has Terrence Malick?

:yabbse-smiley:
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Post by: samsong on May 01, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
... did no one else see this?!
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Post by: Kal on May 01, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: samsong on May 01, 2013, 06:26:59 PM
... did no one else see this?!

I saw it and loved it. I wish every Michael Bay movie was like this one instead of the usual garbage.
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Post by: Ghostboy on May 01, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
It was good. The articles it's based on are amazing and I couldn't believe they stuck so thoroughly to the facts while maintaining the tone of the trailer.

One thing that stuck out: given that this was a guaranteed R-rated movie, and that's main characters all date strippers (moreso in the original story), I'm surprised Bay don't go overboard with sex and nudity. Aside from a few brief shots, it's as tame as the strip club in Armageddon. In spite of his lascivious, misogynistic perspective, he also seems to be almost scared of REALLY seeing naked ladies.
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Post by: samsong on May 02, 2013, 12:05:56 AM
teenage boys get cold feet when presented with the real thing.  probably too busy and nervous about hiding his boner.

but you're right, and i had the same issue with the man with the iron fists, but that seems to stem more from some misguided "respect" for women (pffffft) on rza's part.  i always say don't let your ideals get in the way of a good movie.  if there's a whorehouse in your movie there best be some titties flopping about.

but this was glorious, and basically exactly what i wanted it to be.  fucking tony shaloub swinging for the fences in what has got to be one of the most joyous performances i've seen in a long time.  michael bay's magnum opus, for sure. 


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Post by: diggler on May 03, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
Simultaneously Bay's best movie, The Rock's best performance, Wahlberg's best performance (since Huckabees) and the worst movie I've seen this year. Props to Bay for trying something interesting for a change, though. On the plus side, Shalhoub handles the transition from unsympathetic ass hole to unsympathetic hero with fervor (he fits in Bay's wheelhouse far better than Turturro did), the "dumbbell" scene was something only Bay could conjure and I also enjoyed how uncomfortable my audience was with the wild changes in tone. As a whole, however, the film doesn't really work. The freeze frame gags aren't very consistent, some seem like point of view observations, others are fourth wall breaking winks at the audience, but none of them are very funny or inspired. The fat doctor girlfriend was a bizarre inclusion, how do you include a comic relief character in a story that doesn't require it? I've heard people praise Bay for featuring a non supermodel female character, which I would buy as noble if her fatness wasn't the entire punchline of every scene she's in.

I already feel like I've thought too much about this movie. It's a big, steamy pile of cinematic chaos. It's too dark to be brainless fun, but too funny to be effectively dark. Having said that, I hope Bay keeps doing this. I'm so confused.
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Post by: Neil on May 07, 2013, 07:43:19 PM
Quote from: ddiggler on May 03, 2013, 11:19:09 PM
I'm so confused.

me too.  what an odd film.
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Post by: jenkins on May 07, 2013, 10:53:52 PM
last night at the academy two michael bay jokes were made. the first received a short-burst of laughter and mild confusion. it was about someone in a photo looking like michael bay. the second was about bay's editing speed, and most of the theater laughed. there wasn't a joke made about any other moviemaker. it was kinda wacky. old people, idk
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Post by: HeywoodRFloyd on August 17, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
this film deserves more love, I saw it last night and it's the most entertaining thing I've seen all year.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 19, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
this movie was shit.

it's getting overpraised (here at least) because it's the most coherent thing he's ever done. but that's not saying much, it starts strong and i appreciate the attempt at cleverness by having wahlberg be the bicep/arm of the Sun Gym logo, along with a few other visual flourishes, but it soon runs out of steam and by the hour mark i couldn't believe it was only halfway done.

look at the last line here (emphasis mine), this just about sums up how much thought went into this whole thing:

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i think bay saw himself in these idiots. he's the thoughtlessly overworked bicep of movies.