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Title: The Paperboy
Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2012, 05:43:26 PM
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Release date: 2013

Starring: Matthew McConaughey, Nicole Kidman, John Cusack, Zac Efron

Directed by: Lee Daniels (Precious)

Premise: A reporter returns to his Florida hometown to investigate a case involving a death row inmate.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 15, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Don't like Zac effron, But I like Lee Daniels.... I'll probably give this a try.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: polkablues on August 15, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
Zac Efron is this strange little porcelain doll of a person, but he intrigues me as an actor. If a director figures out the right thing to do with him, to distill that weirdly off-putting plasticity of his into a character, it could be amazing. I don't think this movie is it, but I think it's bound to happen eventually.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: ©brad on August 15, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 15, 2012, 06:20:01 PM
Don't like Zac effron, But I like Lee Daniels.... I'll probably give this a try.

I don't like Lee Daniels but I like Zac effron. Will probably give this a try drunk on an airplane.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 15, 2012, 10:05:52 PM
Quote from: ©brad on August 15, 2012, 07:49:19 PM

I don't like Lee Daniels but I like Zac effron.


Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: polkablues on August 15, 2012, 10:08:22 PM
I don't see the problem.  He's basically the tiny little Montgomery Clift of his generation.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 15, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: polkablues on August 15, 2012, 10:08:22 PM
I don't see the problem.  He's basically the tiny little Montgomery Clift of his generation.


Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: matt35mm on August 16, 2012, 01:30:21 AM
My friend and I enjoyed the shit out of this movie, but no one else seemed to. I'm very curious as to what it's life outside of Cannes will be like. It's so funny and strange and bold and theatrical and actually fucked up. I think the people that didn't like it were expecting something serious. This is not quite serious and not quite a comedy. Audiences were confused about what it was, but the movie itself was not confused. I found it to be remarkably assured in its own weird, trashy, wild ways.

I didn't like Precious, so I didn't expect to like this, and walked away very pleasantly surprised. That said, I suspect that it will be a total flop in terms of money and audience response.

The trailer, as you might expect, is all wrong. It's not the straight-forward thriller it's being painted as. Macy Gray's in it and she's pretty great.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: Sleepless on August 16, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
It looks like an interesting film (in a good way). Nice to hear good things about it (thanks matt) as I thought maybe things were leaning in that direction after Cusack's closing "where you going paperboy" line. Looks fun. And I'm going to stick up for Zac Efron too. Dude's got some big potential, same as Robert Pattinson. Never saw Precious so can't comment on Daniels.

Quote from: polkablues on August 15, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
Zac Efron is this strange little porcelain doll of a person, but he intrigues me as an actor. If a director figures out the right thing to do with him, to distill that weirdly off-putting plasticity of his into a character, it could be amazing. I don't think this movie is it, but I think it's bound to happen eventually.

Efron needs to hook up with James Franco and get a role in a Franco-directed movie. That could be the magic one.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: Sleepless on August 16, 2012, 09:44:38 AM
It looks like an interesting film (in a good way). Nice to hear good things about it (thanks matt) as I thought maybe things were leaning in that direction after Cusack's closing "where you going paperboy" line. Looks fun. And I'm going to stick up for Zac Efron too. Dude's got some big potential, same as Robert Pattinson. Never saw Precious so can't comment on Daniels.



I saw Cosmopolis and I actually was surprised at how good Pattinson was. The movie sucked, but Pattinson's performance was good enough to change my mind about him.

But Zac Efron just fucking sucks... I don't understand this love you guys are showing for him. Tell me one movie he is good in and I'll check it out. Because so far, all I've seen from him is High School musicals and crappy teenager melodramatic roles. (Though he wasn't THAT BAD in "me and orson welles").

Basically, he is to acting..... what Nicolas Cage is to acting.... Except that Cage has an Oscar. (and puts out a good performance every few years: "Adaptation", "Lord of War", "Bad Lieutenant")

Or maybe you guys just like him cuz he's a pretty boy and you're into that sort of thing.... It's ok, I'm not judging.

But as I said before, I will give this one a try because I like Lee Daniels movies and McConaughey has been tremendous in everything I've seen of him lately.... Not like anyone gives a shit though.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: BB on August 17, 2012, 11:15:47 PM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
Or maybe you guys just like him cuz he's a pretty boy and you're into that sort of thing.... It's ok, I'm not judging.

Actually, I think we need pretty boys willing to go all in on risky projects. A lot of the time, that's the only way they get made. I'll agree that Efron hasn't impressed me much thus far (I haven't seen him in much, mind you), but he's still really young. As is the case with most teen heartthrobs who go on to more interesting and challenging things, all it takes is one or two parts to prove themselves capable actors and change public and industry perception. Perhaps between The Paperboy and his upcoming collaboration with Ramin Bahrani, this will be Efron's year. Then he works with one of the living masters and cements his reputation for decades. Then works with Tim Burton again and again with diminishing returns and the cycle begins anew.

ITWT, as I believe you're probably younger than those of us championing Efron, I think he represents something different to you. I don't mean to sound patronizing. When Justin Timberlake started taking strides towards legitmate artistry, I was like, Fuck this clown. But now, not only do I not hate Timberlake, I actually kinda like him. I don't listen to his music and don't think much of him as an actor so far, but I can appreciate how great he is as a celebrity. He's definitely a talented dude and I look forward to him winning me over. I'm actually pretty excited to see his work with the Coen brothers. I've actually even warmed up to 'Nsync, I don't give a shit. Just cuz Efron has sucked in the past doesn't mean he will suck forever. Give him a chance. Let him surprise you.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
I like Timberlake as an actor too, he's really natural. I really started liking him after I saw "The social network" and he's also pretty good in "Black snake moan". I would much rather watch him act than hear him sing.

As far as Efron goes... You said it, he still needs to prove himself. Many of the great actors of this generation are actually "pretty boys who took chances" (Depp, Dicaprio, Gosling, Pitt, Cruise, Ledger, Gyllenhaal, etc), But I don't know, to me  he's like a Male Kristen stewart.... Can't act for shit. I read somewhere that he was pretty good in 'Charlie St. Cloud'. I'mma check it out.... Anyways, who gives a shit if I don't like him and you do? To each his own Cinema....


P.S: Can't wait to see carey mulligan in a Coen brothers movie.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: BB on August 18, 2012, 12:17:04 AM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
Anyways, who gives a shit if I don't like him and you do?

Angry, angry young man...
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: Pubrick on August 18, 2012, 12:46:36 AM
Quote from: BB on August 18, 2012, 12:17:04 AM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 11:32:26 PM
Anyways, who gives a shit if I don't like him and you do?

Angry, angry young man...

Haha I hope you changed your av simply to post this comment.  :bravo:
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: 72teeth on August 18, 2012, 01:21:33 AM
Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 11:32:26 PM

P.S: Can't wait to see carey mulligan in a Coen brothers movie.

yes, Inside Llewyn Davis is going to be great! and JT's in it too!

I hope they go knucklehead with Timberlake and turn him into another classic Coen Dumbass. With his comedic timing, he should be perfect
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on August 18, 2012, 05:12:14 AM
Timberlake was kinda bad in Bad Teacher, but kinda funny in that Mila Kunis movie, so his comedic timing is yet to be proved to me. But of course if the Coens see that potential, I'm sure he'll nail it.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 18, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: ElPandaRoyal on August 18, 2012, 05:12:14 AM
Timberlake was kinda bad in Bad Teacher, but kinda funny in that Mila Kunis movie, so his comedic timing is yet to be proved to me. But of course if the Coens see that potential, I'm sure he'll nail it.


After watching all his SNL skits.... I gotta say, his comedic timing is near perfect. The guy is definitely funny.

But he still has to prove himself in more dramatic roles.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on August 18, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
I liked his somewhat dramatic roles in Southland Tales and The Social Network, and now that I think about it, for a dude who's been acting for not so long, he's made some decent work and for interesting director too. So, respect Timberlake.

And now on topic again... Almodóvar was attached to this project for years, right? I don't know much about this story and didn't particularly care for the trailer either, but the fact that this was under Almodóvar's radar for so long, maked it interesting to me.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: BB on September 12, 2012, 02:24:50 AM
While I'm still rooting for Efron, this won't be his year. Saw At Any Price and, though his performance is not bad, the flick's a stinker. And Paperboy seems too divisive to quite get him where he's going. Dang. There's always next year.

Edit: okay, checked his IMDB and he's got MASSIVE shit on the horizon. Fingers crossed for 2014.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: polkablues on September 12, 2012, 05:38:20 PM
New marquee when I get around to making it:

"XIXAX: We're rooting for you, Zac Efron"
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: Mel on February 05, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
This is a such weird movie. In a way it is coming of age story, but with much older characters. I feel also that there is a bit of a take on "white people problems". Both brothers and Charlotte live in a fairy tale, they don't know what they want from life. In the end take face reality and pay for that. This is contrasted with Anita - which seems like only adult in this story and Acheman - person who has very specific goals and is more self-aware than anybody else. Anita is also narrator, which could explain why characters are presented as children.

Overall it is very uneven film. Acting is there, story is interesting, yet I fell something is missing. I can understand where cinematography and editing is coming, still I don't like it - one foggy (dream-like) insert too many.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: Reel on February 05, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Yeah, I couldn't get into this either. I thought Lee Daniels did a great job with precious so I was expecting more from it. I can't even remember what details about it I didn't like, but thinking back right now, it's the look. Too polished and bright and squeaky clean, nauseatingly so. That's my only recollection, but your post in here reminded me I've got this coming in the mail:


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I'm going to just go ahead and assume it's the better movie.
Title: Re: The Paperboy
Post by: Mel on February 06, 2014, 03:30:46 AM
Quote from: Reelist on February 05, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Yeah, I couldn't get into this either.

I quite enjoyed the film to be honest - there are both funny and dramatic moments. Films just feels too episodic to me (with some weak parts) and swings from funny to very dark atmosphere don't quite work, they lacks fluidity.