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Title: Red State
Post by: mogwai on January 01, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
Official teaser trailer for Red State:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exm22OReBmA
Title: Red State
Post by: Reel on January 01, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
NO WAY :shock: Kevin Smith getting dark and visual? Trying to win Oscars?
Title: Red State
Post by: polkablues on January 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
There's no way Kevin Smith directed that. The camera moves!
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: SiliasRuby on January 01, 2011, 04:26:11 PM
I've been looking forward to this for quite a while. This film will either be a masterpiece or pretentious or (fingers crossed) both.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: modage on January 01, 2011, 09:06:39 PM
It will be neither.  It will still be a Kevin Smith movie. 

Synopsis: Three horny high-school boys come across an online ad from an older woman looking for a gang bang. Boys being boys, they hit the road to satisfy their libidinal urges. But what begins as a fantasy takes a dark turn as they come face-to-face with a terrifying "holy" force with a fatal agenda.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Reel on January 01, 2011, 10:13:50 PM
as it should be. I don't really care which direction it goes, I just hope its scary.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: mogwai on January 02, 2011, 01:04:45 AM
Thanks Modage, now I don't even have to see this movie. Phew!
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: socketlevel on January 02, 2011, 03:28:48 AM
good for smith if he broke outta the mold. i hope this movie is as good as the trailer.

you know, considering how cop out was shot, i could totally see him testing out the visual style for this film.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: diggler on January 02, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
wow, that final dolly shot... as much of a joke as Kevin Smith has become over the years, it would be hilarious if this turned out to be great.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Alexandro on January 02, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: ddiggler on January 02, 2011, 10:15:05 AM
wow, that final dolly shot... as much of a joke as Kevin Smith has become over the years, it would be hilarious if this turned out to be great.

there's a shot before the title card that looks pretty close to the one in magnolia where tenant's son jumps from the building.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Reel on January 02, 2011, 01:16:22 PM
a lot of it reminds me of stuff Rob Zombie would do. In other words, Smith's moving up in the World!
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Neil on January 02, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
The title, "red state" is pretty fucking silly in this context, but this is definitely something of the box for mr. Smith compared to the rest of his work.


What are some other trailers that use a Capella for music, if that is even the proper term for that?



Edit: fuck an i pad
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: MacGuffin on July 27, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
Red Band Trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4fs2kXWRJ0)
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 27, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Because Kevin Smith put his Twitter handle in this trailer, I will not see this movie.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: socketlevel on July 28, 2011, 09:45:40 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on July 27, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
Because Kevin Smith put his Twitter handle in this trailer, I will not see this movie.

I will see this, however i felt that same sentiment. Also, and gun in a bible... seriously...
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Post by: RegularKarate on July 28, 2011, 12:05:31 PM
Also, he's putting his touring movie up at the New Beverly for a short run just so it will be eligible for Oscar. 
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Post by: cinemanarchist on July 28, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
And still charging $20 at a theatre that normally charges $7 for double features and Q&As with directors that don't just podcast all day about how nobody likes them.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: mogwai on September 02, 2011, 09:50:14 AM
U.S. citizens can watch "Red State" on demand through http://coopersdell.com

Lemme me know if it's any good.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Reel on September 02, 2011, 11:55:34 AM
my ondemand wasn't working so I just downloaded it. You can do it too!

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6645421/Red_State_2011_VODRiP_XviD-SiC (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6645421/Red_State_2011_VODRiP_XviD-SiC)

(sorry kevin)
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Alexandro on December 23, 2011, 10:39:09 AM
no one saw this?
it was surprisingly tense and well done. very different from previous smith's efforts yet at the same time a smith film from start to finish. which is good and bad and it can be frustrating.

most of the dialogue is actually pretty great, there's a long monologue by michael parks (12-14 minutes) that's just perfect (the guy gives a truly disturbing performance and it all starts with this monologue) and for the most part the dialogue and delivery serve the story efficiently. but there are a few times, particularly in the beginning and in the final scene, where it becomes obvious that a lack of either money or imagination (or both) makes the film say things with words instead of showing them, which sucks and it's anticlimactic.

The film is mostly good and near great at moments, it has an angry energy that suits it. This is the film of someone that's pissed off and it's not trying to hide it or make it eloquent with intellectual makeup, which is refreshing. But it does fall apart at a certain point with a "twist" that becomes too much. I think Smith should keep trying different things, this is his best film since Dogma.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: SiliasRuby on December 25, 2011, 01:56:41 AM
Tense, rocking film that I can't get out of my head. Completely agree with alexandro. So, yeah. was not what I was expecting.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: socketlevel on January 01, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
I really dug it. wonder if i would second viewing. I really like the randomness to it all, great exploitation.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: mogwai on January 03, 2012, 02:05:49 PM
A wee bit scuffed that it isn't what I originally thought'd be since I've heard Kevin Smith babbling about it so much on his podcasts. But it's definitely his best work since Chasing Amy in my book.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 03, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
So, it's a complete piece of shit?
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: mogwai on January 03, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Neil on January 04, 2012, 12:37:01 AM
Quote from: Pwaybloe on January 03, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
So, it's a complete piece of shit?

This movie is as debatable as the comma in that sentence. 

Title: Re: Red State
Post by: Reel on July 09, 2012, 09:22:28 AM
Quote from: socketlevel on January 01, 2012, 03:04:44 PM
I really dug it. wonder if i would second viewing.

upon first viewing, I was enthralled. The second time around, though:

Quote from: Pwaybloe on January 03, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
complete piece of shit

It escapes me how he got such a good cast to be in this. The only explanation I can think of is that there must've been a lot of visually cool stuff in the script  that would've elevated the movie to a new level, but finally had to be axed because of the budget.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: BB on July 09, 2012, 11:06:09 AM
It sucks that this sucks. The WBC provides such interesting fodder for a real, articulate movie. Going forward, any such film might be considered a rip-off of this deadening, silly piece of shit.
Title: Re: Red State
Post by: mogwai on September 23, 2012, 06:42:47 AM
It's not his best movie but his best since Dogma (I know I wrote Chasing Amy earlier). The thing that bugs me is that he's planning on retire after his next movie. Because this movie is a testament that he's found a new way of making movies. Not that it's original but his look on his previous movies has been a wee bit dull. But Red State can be summed up as a three part movie. The teenagers, the cult and the shootout. It's the kind of movie Rob Zombie would've direct or did only it'd be more violent.