I have seen about 30 different release dates... I am so confused and depressed... some one please help me...
I always heard it was April 30
It was supposed to be released on April 22, but MGM pulled it and looks like they haven't set a new street date yet.
Quote from: MacGuffinIt was supposed to be released on April 22, but MGM pulled it and looks like they haven't set a new street date yet.
Hmmm... they probably want to wait until the box office resurgance cools down...
I stand by my statement of May 13th
Quote from: DirkI stand by my statement of May 13th
What site did you get that date from? All the ones I've searched had no date set. One even had 1/1/10. :shock:
Maybe they are beefing up the disc, so they can charge more and get the money they know is going to be made off of it.
Quote from: MacGuffinWhat site did you get that date from? All the ones I've searched had no date set. One even had 1/1/10. :shock:
hmv.com has a release date set for May 13th, 2003 and I remember reading on a site when the DVD was originally delayed that it was moved back to that date also.
Last I heard it had no street date. Here is a quote from Davisdvd.com:
"ยป BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE
I've been informed by MGM that the Michael Moore documentary Bowling For Columbine will not make it to DVD on May 13. The studio is awaiting delivery of additional special feature materials and, as such, has delayed the title indefinitely. Stay tuned as more news develops on a new release date. "
They have posted no new street date thus far.
*wince*
Source: Variety
Some details have surfaced about the special features that we will likely see on the DVD for Michael Moore's Oscar winning documentary, BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE. The DVD was set for release April 22nd, but MGM pushed it back to August 19th to capitalize on the added buzz following it's Oscar win and to give the studio time to produce "significant" special features for inclusion on the disc. One of those special features is reported to be an interview with Moore in which the filmmaker addresses his controversial Oscar acceptance speech in which he slammed President Bush.
thats my birthday.
you guys want to chip in and buy it for me?
So that's why it was delayed: Michael Moore will answer those who blasted his Oscar night slam on President Bush when Bowling for Columbine finally comes to stores on August 19th. The MGM disc will feature a new interview with the filmmaker about his Oscar victory and the controversial acceptance speech (the disc will also include a transcript of the speech and accompanying stills from the evening). Among the six hours of additional supplements on the disc will be an introduction to the film by Moore, a feature-length audio commentary by Moore's production office receptionist and interns, other Moore interviews, and a video montage of Moore's appearances at film festivals around the world.
-source Davisdvd.com
Fuck Michael Moore until his asshole bursts.
Sorry. The very mention of his name makes my blood boil.
Quote from: Lesterthats my birthday.
you guys want to chip in and buy it for me?
i dont even know you
I hope it includes some responses to the controversies regarding the "manipulative" moments of the film. (This is not to imply the film wasn't manipulative, but I'm curious to hear his defense other than the things he's written that were posted elsewhere on the board).
I miss John Candy.
Quote from: StringstrokerSo that's why it was delayed: Michael Moore will answer those who blasted his Oscar night slam on President Bush when Bowling for Columbine finally comes to stores on August 19th. The MGM disc will feature a new interview with the filmmaker about his Oscar victory and the controversial acceptance speech (the disc will also include a transcript of the speech and accompanying stills from the evening). Among the six hours of additional supplements on the disc will be an introduction to the film by Moore, a feature-length audio commentary by Moore's production office receptionist and interns, other Moore interviews, and a video montage of Moore's appearances at film festivals around the world.
-source Davisdvd.com
happy happy happy happy very happy thank you
Quote from: Duck SauceQuote from: Lesterthats my birthday.
you guys want to chip in and buy it for me?
i dont even know you
Um... I think he was joking. Maybe you are, too...
...I may actually force myself to check this DVD out upon its arrival to my local rental outlet. I'm going to presumptuously guess that much of the additional content will be self-congratulatory enough to make me clench my fists and grit my teeth in annoyance, but given that Jeremy Blackman is a reliable voice of reason on this board and also a staunch defender of Moore, I may be willing to give it another try.
More specs for you, Jeremy:
After a few months delay, MGM Home Entertainment has announced the full specs for Michael Moore's Oscar-winning lightning rod Bowling for Columbine. Now set for an August 19th release, this feature-packed special edition includes a 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen transfer and English 5.1 Dolby surround track, plus an introduction by Moore, an audio commentary "by the production office receptionist and the interns," the "Return to Denver/Littleton" and "Film Festival Scrapbook" featurettes, three Michael Moore interviews including his Charlie Rose Show appearance, a chat with Clinton Press Secretary Joe Lockhart and a new interview post-Oscars, a Marilyn Manson "Fight Song" music video, a still gallery and the theatrical trailer. DVD-ROM extras include the "Teacher's Guide" education materials and "Mike's Action Guide," plus further weblinks. Retail is $26.95.
Can't get enough of Michael Moore? Debuting on August 19th from Warner Home Video is the documentarian's acclaimed Roger & Me, which will make a nice double bill with his Bowling for Columbine, which also hits stores in August. The DVD includes a transfer in the film's original 1.33:1 full screen, a Dolby mono track, new audio commentary by Moore and the trailer. Retail is $19.95.
Just for you, JB:
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The Extras
They certainly spared no expense in the extras, although the bulk of the content is in celebration of Moore and the movie, and not the issues raised in the movie. First is a 20 minute segment in his backyard with his Oscar, talking about the infamous acceptance speech. The Academy wouldn't let him include the footage of the speech on the disc, so he simply addresses the award and the audience reaction to his speech.
Then there's Return to Denver/Littleton, a 25 minute clip of him speaking at the University of Denver six months after the movie was released. Half of it is him attacking President Bush and the other half is him discussing the making of the movie, which includes second-guessing the cops who responded to the scene.
There are other interviews with Charlie Rose and with former White House press secretary Joe Lockhart, where he states unequivocally that Attorney General John Ashcroft is a bigger threat than Osama Bin Laden. Make of that what you will.
Marilyn Manson returns with his video for The Fight Song, although amusingly, the obscenities are beeped out. The documentary is R-rated and has its share of dirty words and harsh images, but a Marilyn Manson song is censored?
Moore also included The Awful Truth II: Corporate Cops, part of his anti-rich people obsession, where he parodies the show Cops by pursuing corporate criminals. Mike's Action Guide simply tells you to go to the Bowling for Columbine Website for more information, as does the Teacher's Guide. There's also a photo gallery of all the people involved in the production and the movie's trailer.
Most obnoxious is the audio commentary by receptionists and interns. It might have made for a good laugh if at least one of them was funny. Most of them sound very young and act it. Besides, this is a documentary, so people talking over talking turns it into noise.
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Mmmmmm..... one more long day...
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanMmmmmm..... one more long day...
i'm totally in the future.
but broke, so it don't mean shit :shock:
Looking forward to tomorrow...
"And I think to myself what a wonderful world." :wink:
Quote from: filmcriticLooking forward to tomorrow...
"And I think to myself what a wonderful world." :wink:
why? is it michael moores birthday?
I picked up Bowling for Columbine at Best Buy today at a criminally cheap $16.99... Strange, though, that they don't sell Roger & Me.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI picked up Bowling for Columbine at Best Buy today at a criminally cheap $16.99... Strange, though, that they don't sell Roger & Me.
My Best Buy had a large supply of "Roger & Me" DVDs. Got it for $15. It's even advertised in their weekly flyer. Better go back and ask, JB.
Quote from: MacGuffinMy Best Buy had a large supply of "Roger & Me" DVDs. Got it for $15. It's even advertised in their weekly flyer. Better go back and ask, JB.
Strange. Why doesn't it show up on their website? Well, it's the same price at Amazon.com.
Has anyone seen the Awful Truth? I'm intrigued by it and was wondering if it's worth it. I like both of his films and both of his books, if that's any help.
Quote from: DirkHas anyone seen the Awful Truth? I'm intrigued by it and was wondering if it's worth it. I like both of his films and both of his books, if that's any help.
If you like his stuff, you'll like Awful Truth. It wasn't as great as TV Nation, but still worth checking out.
and this fat fuck over here, i hope his heart expoldes before his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out, he is timimg it for the election
what a whore, a money loving whore and you guys are saps to think other wise
ever see him hang out at small indie bookstores and sign ? i mean reeal small ones the ones that could go under next week because they have the balls to ship in deep magzines that most people wont buy , stuff like mojo
which i know borders carrys, but they can afford it some cant
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesbefore his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
Quote from: Cecil B. DementedQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesbefore his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah, huh? :?: :yabbse-huh:
EDIT - I believe Roger and Me was the highest grossing documentary ever. Dunno about Columbine though
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand this fat fuck over here, i hope his heart expoldes before his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out, he is timimg it for the election
what a whore, a money loving whore and you guys are saps to think other wise
ever see him hang out at small indie bookstores and sign ? i mean reeal small ones the ones that could go under next week because they have the balls to ship in deep magzines that most people wont buy , stuff like mojo
which i know borders carrys, but they can afford it some cant
... What the fuck are you talking about... Moore is a top filmmaker now. By that I mean his BfC SOARED passed all other docs in the box office category. Case in point: if the man wants to be a 'money loving whore' and release his stronger left-sided doc for the elections to show anti-Bush propaganda, then he can do it if he fucking feels like it I guess. Now more than ever he can have a "I'll do it if I want because I'm Michael fucking Moore" attitude. And you're complaining that what? No one will watch his next movie (thats virtually impossible based on that little record breaker with BfC) and he doesn't go to 'small indie bookstores'. I was making a new big movie for 2004, I don't think I'd have *too much* time for those little bookstores. Furthermore, what the fuck would he be going there for? Next you'll be asking him to cure cancer.
The DVD is great.
One of the greatest moments of the special features is when David Lynch announces the special jury prize and starts crying. I was about to cry too, seeing Michael Moore, David Lynch, and Naomi Watts in the same room.
The return to Littleton, Colorado was amazing. It has to be the most gutwrenching, emotional stuff I've seen on a supplemental DVD.
I thought his personal message about the Oscar speech was good, but a little awkward. He works better in front of an audience.
Great DVD. The second disc is unsettling at times. I think the film stands up really well without all the extra heavy speeches he includes on the bonus disc. The entire second disc is basically his "anti-Bush" platform.
Did anyone else notice that the "Charlie Rose" interview is only 30 minutes long? All the other DVDs I own with Charlie Rose segments are a full hour.
Tarantino..
Donnie Darko.. etc etc..
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThe return to Littleton, Colorado was amazing. It has to be the most gutwrenching, emotional stuff I've seen on a supplemental DVD.
What an incredible moment when the Columbine student breaks down in front of Moore at his book signing. She had me crying.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanOne of the greatest moments of the special features is when David Lynch announces the special jury prize and starts crying. I was about to cry too, seeing Michael Moore, David Lynch, and Naomi Watts in the same room.
My God, how radiant did she look that night?
Quote from: DirkQuote from: Cecil B. DementedQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesbefore his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah, huh? :?: :yabbse-huh:
EDIT - I believe Roger and Me was the highest grossing documentary ever. Dunno about Columbine though
highest grossing documentary is like being the president of bulgaria , your the president but its fucking bulgaria
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand this fat fuck over here, i hope his heart expoldes before his next pointless film that no one will watch comes out, he is timimg it for the election
what a whore, a money loving whore and you guys are saps to think other wise
ever see him hang out at small indie bookstores and sign ? i mean reeal small ones the ones that could go under next week because they have the balls to ship in deep magzines that most people wont buy , stuff like mojo
which i know borders carrys, but they can afford it some cant
he doesn't go to 'small indie bookstores'. I was making a new big movie for 2004, I don't think I'd have *too much* time for those little bookstores. quote]
first of all bfc, didnt make vin diesal money so lets get some prespective here
and if his name is as strong as he says it is why not help small book stores, his name should be enough to bring people in
if prince played shithole bar i would go just based on rep
moore says he fights for the litte man, ok i will resist the urge to make a fat joke here
but you know what always made me iffy on him in roger and me he kept in that anti jew joke from bob eubanks , not because it had anything to do with the point of the movie, he kept it in to win points at the studio, so that is a weasel move
eubanks joke was dumb and he is a asshole and he deserved to be exposed as a anti semite, but the way moore did it was shaddy
after seeing that , i started to lose respect for him and it went down hill ever since
he said he never met a dumb black person in his life ??? there is dumb people of all colors , how can he say that
what he really was saying is that he doesnt really know any black people, and by know i mean good friends , with the guy or girl and their family
lets just say that mike moore has one good black friend, is that enough to say that all black people are not dumb ???
Ok, well I can almost guarantee you that "The Village Idiot" (yes you Alguien) has not viewed this brilliant piece of political artistry. I am so utterly sick of you blind nationalistic assholes who stand behind your countries fuckups like they were godheads. The honest to God truth; Bowling for Columbine was one of the most poignant and puissant documentaries I have ever seen. It is gritty because it confronts the beast from the inside and cries out amongst the roar of apathy. You who curse Michael for his outspoken views, the balls of that man to openly denounce your countries president in a country where anti-patriotic sentiment is tantamount to gay marital status. I pity those amongst you who cannot remove the blinders that Pavlov's practitioners have draped blatantly across your eyes. WAKE THE FUCK UP. Swallow your blind faith in your countrymen and ideals and actually evaluate the world on your own principles and beliefs, not some bullshit rhetoric which was force fed to you since birth.
yay Anachronism
The "Roger & Me" commentary track is excellent. It's too bad Moore didn't do one for "Columbine". He says "Columbine" speaks for itself, but you would think he would still have a lot more to say, and expand more on what was cut out.
Quote from: Anachronismblah blha blah .
these idiots are interchangeable, at least my posts are original and have something to say
ive said it before and i will say it again go to any starbucks find a fat girl behind the counter and she will spout out the same propaganda this douchebag is saying
this guy is a fucking cliche,i had him figured out with in two posts
he will be fun for me to bitch slap around , you love to put down america and i love europe just came back from there my whole family is from there but whatever country you are from i hope their is a outbreak of SARS of the asshole.
The irony of your posts astounds me. What you do is manage to escape the culpability for actually understanding the issue by attacking the individual who is presenting an opinion on it instead. In fact I would hazard a guess you try to read the posts, but realize that the amount of effort required far exceeds the amount of time it would take you to "copy + paste" their entire quote, then make some obscure reference to it in a snide manner and feel that you have adequately defended your position.
What is too funny is that while you have labeled me "cliche" and have decided that you know who I am, what I am, and where I come from. The real truth is you haven't even engaged in a real discussion with me yet. You simply regurgitate whatever text I have used and insult me, hoping desperately for one of your yes men to come to your defense. While everyone else seems to present a cogent opinion on the matters discussed in any one of these threads, you take off on tangents that somehow correlate to your mean level of education and experience. You try to quote bizarre references and idols and then claim you are a misunderstood genius when people say they don't understand you.
Well you are not misunderstood because there is nothing to understand. Your posts, your comments, your dissection of myself and others is hollow and empty. It is meaningless jibberish you have erected as a defense or a distraction from the real truth: You are not able to converse and make adequate syntheses of the topics at hand, and thus as a means of attention grabbing and misdirection you infuriate those involved in an otherwise friendly discourse hoping that through blinding them with anger you will avoid dealing with the actual topic at hand. You are the entropic force that is rotting America from the inside out. You are the illiterate book burner who claims literature is perverting the minds of our youth. You are the closet homosexual redneck who's own sexuality has been so badly repressed from decades of gender indoctrination that you rally against gay marriage and go gay bashing with your equally neanderthalic frat brothers (oh wait, not even a frat would take you because you are a social pariah). So you know what Alguien? I rarely resort to base name calling, but F U C K Y O U. I don't give a flying fuck what anyone else has to say regarding this, but you know, and I know.
We both know that you are full of shit. We both know you have a barely passing acquaintance with literacy. We both know you desperately wish to be accepted and cool like the predominant wave in entertainment which has manifested itself in the "cool" neo-black culture. We both know you are a sexually deprived, sexually frustrated, sexually confused child. We both know your life presents few if any possibilities for you to lead "the good life." And finally, we both know that you do not know fuck all about Film, Film making, Cinematography, Screenwriting, Acting (well perhaps I will give you this one caveat) or Producing. So here is my one big question; Considering you bring ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY nothing, and I do mean nothing, of value to the table. Why are you still here? Do you subconsciously resent those of us who actually are in the industry or who will be soon? Do you wish you had our intellect, our abilities, our creative drive? Are you frustrated by this jealousy? Does it justify your incessant bashing of everyone and everything? I would have to go with yes.
You are a waste of space, you are a waste of virtual space, the words you type are a waste of web space. The quicker you reach maturation and realize that this isn't the playground anymore, and that you can't get us to pay attention to you or accept you by taking away our toys or by taunting/bullying/abusing us, the quicker you can begin the process of learning the life lessons that you so badly lack. The life lessons that the rest of us have learnt long ago when we shrugged off our juvenile coils.
You are a pitiful excuse for a human being. I will not be posting in response to you, or your textual vomit again.
Quote from: AnachronismYou are the entropic force that is rotting America from the inside out. You are the illiterate book burner who claims literature is perverting the minds of our youth. You are the closet homosexual redneck who's own sexuality has been so badly repressed from decades of gender indoctrination that you rally against gay marriage and go gay bashing with your equally neanderthalic frat brothers (oh wait, not even a frat would take you because you are a social pariah).
I think I love you.
Forget about that love sharing thing I said earlier ... Anachronism, you're my lover :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
That was actually a really good post I liked it. Sort of like how I was thinking but in words; it was also very good to.
Thanks
i had a great post here and it was edited out just for spite by picolos
censorship is this what we have come to, maybe we should reevaluate our admins
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi had a great post here and it was edited out just for spite by picolos
censorship is this what we have come to, maybe we should reevaluate our admins
People complaining about censorship is soooo cliche.
Maybe you weren't so much as censored as the rest of us were spared from your usual barrage of punctuation errors.
Quote from: markums2kQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi had a great post here and it was edited out just for spite by picolos
censorship is this what we have come to, maybe we should reevaluate our admins
People complaining about censorship is soooo cliche.
Maybe you weren't so much as censored as the rest of us were spared from your usual barrage of punctuation errors.
and maybe just maybe people are being nice when we tell you that gya man sex is not gross it is . as much as love it , its gross :)
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand maybe just maybe people are being nice when we tell you that gya man sex is not gross it is . as much as love it , its gross :)
Do me a favor.
Click (https://xixax.com/templates/xixmac/images/lang_english/icon_edit.gif)... and try to get that post of yours to make sense. Thanksabunch.
Quote from: markums2kQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand maybe just maybe people are being nice when we tell you that gya man sex is not gross it is . as much as love it , its gross :)
Do me a favor.
Click (https://xixax.com/templates/xixmac/images/lang_english/icon_edit.gif)... and try to get that post of yours to make sense. Thanksabunch.
i think vermont maybe more tolerant of your way of life, find one of their message boards
Quote from: AnachronismYou are a pitiful excuse for a human being. I will not be posting in response to you, or your textual vomit again.
:yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesi had a great post here and it was edited out just for spite by picolos
just to let everyone know, that's a lie.
Quote from: DirkQuote from: AnachronismYou are a pitiful excuse for a human being. I will not be posting in response to you, or your textual vomit again.
:yabbse-thumbup:
how sweet you gave him what he wanted a thumb up his ass
you kooky guys , you crack me up
p.s original name :roll:
like i said before, in roger and me he kept in that anti jew joke from bob eubanks , not because it had anything to do with the point of the movie, the film was about roger smith killing a town
he kept it in to win points at the studio, so that is a weasel move
he wanted to win over the studio heads to further his career
he thought this was his chance to give the world his version of citizan kane
" Canadian Bacon"
the eubanks joke was dumb and he is a asshole and like i said he deserved to be exposed as a anti semite, but the way moore did it was a bitch move
so he is not the hippy he says he is , he is a buisness man who self promotes himself to death
im all for self promotion, i dont have to tell you guys that .
i love people like mohamed ali and rap stars
but moore has a shallow at best message in his film
he never once mentioned that maybe the rap world which is the number one music amungst kids is some what responcible, for making guns cool
and im a rap fan, but unlike moore i know that a senseible person wouldnt use a gun because of a stupid reason, i loved cartoons as a kid i never smashed anyone with a pipe because i saw it on tv
his film should of been about retards , and how we can lock them up........ and keep them away from guns and tapes of jackass
by the way go ahead and make guns illeagal like you did with drugs , we all know how hard it is to get drugs now that they are illegal :roll:
i know he didnt say outlaw all guns but some fruitcakes do and they are idiots
how many NRA Members do we see going on shooting sprees ?
why not teach gun responcibility, hell the genie is out of the bottle and we cant put it back in
if bad men have guns then good men must have guns to protect themselves
so lets instead of trying to outlaw guns , try and teach people gun responcibility , how to use it and where to keep it in your home so kids dont touch them
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand im a rap fan, but unlike moore i know that a senseible person wouldnt use a gun because of a stupid reason, i loved cartoons as a kid i never smashed anyone with a pipe because i saw it on tv
Did you even see this movie? He specifically ridicules the idea that gun violence is caused by video games or Marilyn Manson.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesand im a rap fan, but unlike moore i know that a senseible person wouldnt use a gun because of a stupid reason, i loved cartoons as a kid i never smashed anyone with a pipe because i saw it on tv
Did you even see this movie? He specifically ridicules the idea that gun violence is caused by video games or Marilyn Manson.
wow how weird i just created a new thread about this post , erase your post and put it in there
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneslike i said before, in roger and me he kept in that anti jew joke from bob eubanks , not because it had anything to do with the point of the movie, the film was about roger smith killing a town
he kept it in to win points at the studio, so that is a weasel move
he wanted to win over the studio heads to further his career
It was definitely a bad joke, anti-semitic and a little homophobic. But I think you're making 2 bad assumptions. Why would he think that having an anti-semitic joke in his movie would make the studio happy? You need to explain this, because that assumption just doesn't make sense. And how can you think that he left that joke in the movie to glorify Bob Eubanks? Or do you think that just by having the joke in there at all (and ignoring context) that he's anti-semitic? Now
that would be P.C.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneslike i said before, in roger and me he kept in that anti jew joke from bob eubanks , not because it had anything to do with the point of the movie, the film was about roger smith killing a town
he kept it in to win points at the studio, so that is a weasel move
he wanted to win over the studio heads to further his career
It was definitely a bad joke, anti-semitic and a little homophobic. But I think you're making 2 bad assumptions. Why would he think that having an anti-semitic joke in his movie would make the studio happy? You need to explain this, because that assumption just doesn't make sense. And how can you think that he left that joke in the movie to glorify Bob Eubanks? Or do you think that just by having the joke in there at all (and ignoring context) that he's anti-semitic? Now that would be P.C.
being a mid west chap that he is i can see him thinking that jewish people run hollywood
thats a statement made by many, many being jewish themselves and some not
why did tom arnold convert and stay jewish after he split with roseanne , he cant go 20 minutes now without saying " as a jew"
for personal reasons i find that offensive
marlon brando a legand a god made a jewish crack last year and regrdless of his past he was asked to apoligize
so being the weasel that he is micheal moore that is , he used that as a way to further his career, by his logic
i would never think somethink so stupid like that would help my career
now you explain why that scene fit the film
p.s glorify bob eubanks when did i say that, i said he exploited a idiot for his own gain
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesp.s glorify bob eubanks when did i say that, i said he exploited a idiot for his own gain
So you're saying that he put an anti-semitic joke in his movie so that it would please Jews in Hollywood? Umm... because they would say "Oh look! An anti-semitic joke in this movie! Michael Moore has revealed the truth!"...?
You honestly think Michael Moore put an anti-semitic joke in his movie to get Jews on his side?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesp.s glorify bob eubanks when did i say that, i said he exploited a idiot for his own gain
So you're saying that he put an anti-semitic joke in his movie so that it would please Jews in Hollywood? Umm... because they would say "Oh look! An anti-semitic joke in this movie! Michael Moore has revealed the truth!"...?
You honestly think Michael Moore put an anti-semitic joke in his movie to get Jews on his side?
no to show them that he is " anti" anti semites , he framed it to make eubanks look like a villian/idiot and that is offesive to use a touchy issue for your own gain
now tell me why it was in the movie or can you ?
it didnt work, his bacon movie went straight to run ronnie run land
i responded to you in minutes and so far nothing from you as the clock ticks
because you know that scene had nothing to do with the movie
the only good thing is , is that it exposed eubanks as a asshole
but i dont respect moores motives
why are you waiting to answer ?? asking your professer for a answer or are you just at a loss for words again
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneswhy are you waiting to answer ??
I apologize for not giving my full and complete attention to your revolutionary ideas every moment that I am on the internet.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesno to show them that he is " anti" anti semites , he framed it to make eubanks look like a villian/idiot and that is offesive to use a touchy issue for your own gain
That's all you had to say, and we could have started this the right way.
How many people has Michael Moore framed as "villians/idiots"? Almost everyone. The Bob Eubanks joke was not out of context at all. He was describing his hometown questioning the integrity of local celebrities. It was one piece in his description of how desolate and demoralized/immoral Flint had become. Unless you can show me a pattern of desperate anti-anti-semitism in his films, I can't possibly make the leap that he launches subliminal messages directly at studio executives. The heads of studios (in this case, Warner Brothers) have political views that are so far removed from Moore's that this 2-second anti-semitic blurb would not have a chance of converting them. I hope you don't honestly think that the studios finance his films with something other than the money in mind. You're looking too hard.
eubanks was not living in flint at the time, people in flint dont know much about jews
eubanks is a hollywood slimeball, more then a flint resident i bet he got his joke in hollywood not flint
now had he made a movie about anti semite hypocrites , and used that clip i would say right the fuck on
by the way the film was other wise great, but his ego inflated and now he is a joke
he loves the working man and then shits on the P.A's who work at the oscars
he is a joke
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneswhy are you waiting to answer ??
I apologize for not giving my full and complete attention to your revolutionary ideas every moment that I am on the internet.
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your forgiven just work on it some more
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneseubanks was not living in flint at the time
Of course... why would he be? He's from Flint, and he's not making them proud. It's that simple.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: AlguienEstolamiPantaloneseubanks was not living in flint at the time
Of course... why would he be? He's from Flint, and he's not making them proud. It's that simple.
so thats why its in the film ? yeah ok :roll:
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonesso thats why its in the film ?
Yes. It's not that hard to believe. He's sarcastically going through the list of things that Flint has to be proud of, and there's Bob Eubanks. He's not making them proud.
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalonescensorship is this what we have come to, maybe we should reevaluate our admins
lemme know when you guys are done...so I actually don't put effort into a post just to have it erased...I might waste some people's time...but someone owns my ass 20 minutes. Untiil then...expect garbabge, as it seems to be contagious lately.
Quote from: aclockworkjjlemme know when you guys are done...so I actually don't put effort into a post just to have it erased...I might waste some people's time...but someone owns my ass 20 minutes. Untiil then...expect garbabge, as it seems to be contagious lately.
When was the last time you had a post edited or deleted by an admin?
last night. I had about 7 deleted...6 of which were probably garbage, but one that I actually used all the gusta I could musta.
Um, speaking of the new upper left banner...
I finally saw "Bowling" earlier this week. Having followed this thread in the weeks beforehand, I certainly went into it much more cautiously. But I was surprised that it still had the power to move and surprise me. (The Nichols interview, getting K-mart to stop selling a type of ammo, the weepy schoolteacher).
As a journalist, I found myself being more critical of his tendency to jump from theory to theory without truly supporting or exploring any of them. He had sort of a "Sherman's March" stream of consciousness thing going with his ideas about violence.
And certainly, the political agenda was taken with a grain of salt, where necessary.
Does this doc belong in schools, as a teaching device? Hell, no. But it's still an important film about, if nothing else, the times we live in and who we are.
I'm kind of working my way backwards with Moore, so I'm planning to see "Roger and Me" (for the first time) next.
I think Roger & Me is a better DVD IMO. Better commentary.. just a better all around DVD package.. I think it's because BfC's commentary turned me off a lot and I had higher expectations out of it.
Quote from: CinephileI think Roger & Me is a better DVD IMO. Better commentary.. just a better all around DVD package.. I think it's because BfC's commentary turned me off a lot and I had higher expectations out of it.
Yeah, I don't know if I'll even bother with the Bowling for Columbine commentary, as I've heard so few good things about it.
Looking forward to "Roger & Me" and "Hearts and Minds" as I continue my recent spurt of documentaries this week.
Quote from: Find Your MagaliYeah, I don't know if I'll even bother with the Bowling for Columbine commentary, as I've heard so few good things about it.
Yeah, it ain't too great. The interns/PAs don't offer too much insight on the film. Let me know how "Hearts and Minds" is because I'm really interested in it but I can't find it anywhere.
Dirk, you can find hearts and minds (& any other criterions) at dvdplanet.com for cheap, it's either 20 or 26. Peace.
..Well finally got around to seeing this and i must admit ..FOR A DOC. IT IS BRILLIANT..i am personally not a fan of Michael More..but i give props to his doc. is really phuking mind opening....Some questions though..PLease answer>>
1.0 is any of this made up for dramamtic reasons(..i know it is catagorized as a documentary ..but still..is it all true..?
2.0 is Canada the paradise it is represented in the doc..?
3.0 is he saying that "end the end" ..that Americans are gun crazy/nuts/violent people b/c of ..tV..?
4.0 has he lost weight?
..lastly for his acceptance speech at the acad. awards(which is/was well deserved..) he should have used the time to talk about his doc.. and not that gibberrish he instead said about Bush and our great nation... :roll:
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2.0 is Canada the paradise it is represented in the doc..?
Yes. Yes it is.
Quote3.0 is he saying that "end the end" ..that Americans are gun crazy/nuts/violent people b/c of ..tV..?
I think he's saying it's mainly because of fear, which can be caused by what's on TV, among other things.
Quote4.0 has he lost weight?
Yeah, fifty pounds 8)
::musings onthe credits that state that BFC was written and directed by Michael Morre::
well if thats the case..he is a brilliant writer and special mention has to go out to all of the ACTORS in this movie. they were convincing..like they were real people.....(i especially like heston's portrayal of the leader of the NRA)....... :wink:
http://brain-terminal.com/video/michael-moore/index.html
I'll have to watch the video at my university on a fast connection instead of my crappy dial-up connection at home.